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MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 18:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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Colin McRae: Dirt 2

You recently removed the Sountrack section from the article Colin McRae: Dirt 2 with the Edit Summary, "Citation doesn't support existence of Soundtrack CD - Thus soundtrack list not valid under WP:VG guidelines". Please indicate which guideline at WP:VG you believe you are following; I can't see any guidelines there at all. The fact that the audio CD exists is not in doubt; there are a number of possible references for this. I will include one of them when I restore a mention of the audio CD to the article. (I will not put back the actual soundtrack list as I don't believe it is appropriate. It could, however, be appropriate in a sub-article.)

I also tidied up many of your new <ref>s. You might want to check what I have done. (Please respond here.) HairyWombat 17:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

SEGA Mega Drive / Genesis: Audio section

Hello there. One of your recent edits removed information from the Mega Drive article. This edit has been reverted. The information in question was provided by an expert on the subject and has been verified on multiple occasions since then. You can verify it yourself if you buy a used model 2 and compare its sound to a model 1 console. Please do not change this section again without further discussion. Thanks. DCEvoCE (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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Horrifying

You are unhealthily obsessed with video games. 82.11.98.122 (talk) 18:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Also surely you should give me an appropriate warning template? 82.11.98.122 (talk) 18:46, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Please, discuss this matter with a little more candor. No one is opposing the addition of such a mention; simply that your addition seemed inflammatory and inappropriate as to where it was being placed. However, we cannot discuss the addition of such content if you act in such a way, and the way you are acting makes it hard to believe that the statement wasn't meant to spark things up. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Unhealthy obssession indeed 76.123.175.49 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC).

Project Milo

No credible sorce uses the Vaporware term because its deeming the entire artical aruges about its authenticty so i put it in 254Jackson (talk)

So how does a single individual declaring a title as vaporware, differ from original research? - X201 (talk) 09:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

It is vaporware,the product is going through sever deveolpment hell and besides in comparrison to the other titles labled vaporware without a source,milo takes the cake.Sources don't use the term period no one else (excluding the DNF artical) uses vaporware with a source 254Jackson (talk— Preceding unsigned comment added by 254Jackson (talk • contribs) 09:53, 4 April 2011

You do know that Vaporware has a negative and insulting connotation? Rather than just be a synonym for "unreleased/never released", it also means products where a deliberate deceit was involved on the part of the developer or publisher, in announcing a product that they knew that they would not, or could not deliver. - X201 (talk) 10:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes i do know,thats why i said respectvly ive already coverd this in its disscousion (i was unsigned user) but im not biast in any negative way in fact i look foward to the game if your not satisfied we could comprimise 254Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC).

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MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 03:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: PlayStation project

I dont use AWB so im doing it manually. Is that a problem? Salavat (talk) 11:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Ace Combat 6: Fire of Liberation

While editing the Ace Combat 6 online community, I felt the topic wasn't relavent to article and believe it should be deleted. However, I don't know for sure if it needs to be deleted and I believe it should be decided by you and not by me.71.184.217.18 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:57, 6 April 2011 (UTC).

See WP:BOLD. - X201 (talk) 10:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

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about the discussion on the ps3 page

well the first guy has a link that says ps3 shipped 50 million and i added 1 that said it has sold 50 million, you said there was a difference between shipped and sold but i dont think there is, is there something im missing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanovar (talk • contribs) 07:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of PlayStation Network outage/Timeline

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there is no need for a seperate template which will contain content for one article only. Tried to create a subpage but forgot that can't be done in article namespace.

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Zenonia 3 categories

Hello, I noticed that you changed date categories for the [[Zenonia 3] article so that the game is now classified as an "upcoming game for 2011". Zenonia 3 was released worldwide on the iOS platform in April, so I do not understand the reason for the category change. LovesMacs (talk) 13:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

My mistake. I missed the April date and saw the "plans to release the game on the Android Market by June 2011" and jumped to the wrong conclusion. - X201 (talk) 10:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
No harm done, that's an easy mistake to make. Thanks for fixing the categories. LovesMacs (talk) 20:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Status field

*Facepalm* I can't remember why I did that, but since it was me I can only assume it was for things like "defunct". Guess I should probably update the thread to reflect this huh? Still, since it seems to be being used for online status there's probably still room for a discussion on that side of things. Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ (talk) 12:48, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Online Game Release Dates

You reverted an edit I did, with the justification that I was using the "Incorrect use of INT - INT has a special meaning in video games - Is not a synonym for Worldwide." As you seem to be more knowledgeable about this than I am, what would you suggest I use instead? I need something to differentiate an online release date and a retail (boxed) release date in an article. Comrade Hamish Wilson (talk) 00:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Eden Eternal

Why did you remove the 2011 video games category from Eden Eternal? Is it because the public release date has not been announced for 2011? Kevinmon•talk•trib 00:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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Could you take a look at this Perpetuum article and see it's published?

I think this guy did a decent job on the article. I'm not sure why the page was deleted, even after reading the "editors" comments. [Perpetuum] - this link is to his user page here where he built the article - based upon the EVE online page which is published here.

The game is out of Hungary - in multiple languages. it has write-ups in massively, mmorpg.com has a forum for it and articles on it, tentonhammer has articles and write-ups on it... There's even a stub on the game in fr.wikipdia. Checking across languages, I found dozens of hits and just in English plenty of press that should justify an article's creation. The foundation document is done.

Net effect: Little more than a brief format/content review and the article should be good to go.

Thanks,

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Template: Video game cover fur

Just in case you didn't release, "Video game cover fur" is a redirect to "Non-free use rationale video game cover", so that probably should be what "Vgboxart fur" is being changed to instead if your looking to avoid the redirect. Salavat (talk) 12:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Notability

Thanks for your edits on the Honor in Vengeance II article, I've read over the notability guidelines before writing the article and felt the game had enough sources to be proven. The game is on the Xbox Live Marketplace, which accounts for a lot, and was reviewed by Dealspwn which is a well known community in the UK gaming scene. I agree that the blog review and other site's reputation isn't as big, but both sites are well established in the indie community. I've seen a large number of other indie games with sometimes literally nothing cited survive for years, so I felt like I did a pretty good job with this article. Let me know! Cheers. --XBLIGfan (talk) 12:25, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to X201

Thanks for the quick fix to the "Platform(s)" field of Take No Prisoners's Infobox.
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Magazine scans request

Hey. I'm working on P.N.03 with User:Guyinblack25, and it'd be really nice to have the Edge review of the game. Apparently, it was reviewed in the magazine's June 2003 issue (page 96), which isn't listed in the Reference library. Do you have access to it? Assuming you do, I'd be extremely grateful if you could provide scans. Thanks. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

  • Sounds good. Thanks for the help. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 07:51, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
    • Wow again. I missed your message because another user contacted me shortly after you did, and I assumed that the "New Message" bar was for the second one only. Huge thanks for the photos. That was a pretty awkward series of mistakes on my part; please forgive me. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 09:24, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
      • One last question: could you provide page numbers for these? They don't appear in the photos, and I don't trust Metacritic's information after getting burned by the false rating. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 03:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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The UnderGarden

Could you clarify on the talk page what sort of cleanup is required for this page - I see no unverified info, major MOS issues, or excessive detail - the only issue I can see is that it requires expansion to give a better description of the gameImgaril (talk) 22:07, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

For September Dab Challenge

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Congratulations on placing in the September Dab Challenge. 225 is a lot of fixes. Thank you for taking the time to improve the inter-article navigation within our project. Just wanted to let you know that your efforts do not go unnoticed and are appreciated. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC))


Thanks. Unexpected, but most welcome. - X201 (talk) 07:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 07:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Joe Danger

Hiya! Firstly, thanks for your help with this article, keeping me right. I just wanted to say that the image you uploaded should probably go in an article for The Movie as opposed to this one, since it's not actually related to the game too much. Also, I'm thinking about sticking it up for GAN - do you know anyone at the project who copyedits? Cheers! — Joseph Fox 13:19, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Notification

Just letting you know that the anon IP user seems to be falsely accusing me on behalf of my recent edits from MotorStorm (series). On top of that, he also badmouthed me on saying that I'm not supposed to include spoilers, even though I only added a few important things (though I have never done adding a plot to the main article MotorStorm: Apocalypse before). So, I am not sure if you are an administrator, but if you are, I kindly ask you to take care of this user from falsely accusing me, even badmouthing me. JMBZ-12 (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Magazine request

Hello X210, I noticed that you are offering to make certain articles from Edge magazine available through WP:VG/RL. I was wondering if you could provide the portions of the "Development Hell" article in the February 2003 issue (Edge #120) that cover Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon and Link: The Faces of Evil. I would prefer scans but anything will do honestly. I am hoping to expand that article with reliable sources and any help you could provide would be most generous. Thank you in advance. -Thibbs (talk) 13:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

GTA V

Before undoing my creation of the Grand Theft Auto V article, please see my message on the talk page so we can formulate a discussion. Bbqsauce13 (talk) 00:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Joe Danger

Oh my GOD do I HATE edit conflicts. I'm sorry, I've had to screw you over on these edits, but I'll look to reinstate them. Sorry. — Joseph Fox 16:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Actually, a few of those edits I don't agree with for reasons I gave HF25 at the FAC. :) — Joseph Fox 16:31, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Edge

Hi there. I know that you have issue 41 and I was wondering if you could email me scans of it. I need the issue for expanding Full Throttle article. Thank you. Electroguv (talk) 18:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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Requesting your assistance

I am having a serious content dispute with an IP on the Grand Theft Auto V article. You seem much more knowledgeable about WP:VG rules and prior consensuses than I. This is NOT about whether or not the developer should be listed as British or Scottish. It is about whether or not a developer nationality should be mentioned at all. Please see the discussion located here and provide an opinion. I'm sure members of WikiProject Video Games have made a ruling on this topic before. Thank you in advance for any help. BBQ (talk) 14:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Regarding "-only" categories

Hi and thanks for that clarification. I did the same for the Nintendo 3DS-only category as well, so could you please revert it back since that's also a non-diffusing category? Thanks again. --CoolingGibbon (talk) 10:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

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MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 06:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Can you please tell me which websites are counted as reliable for online games notability

Hello. I am really confused about admins notability criteria. I believe that i have many notable, authority sources yet they are not counted sufficient by administrators. So i am seeking your help here. Which websites out there counted as an authority. Thank you. ShareToGain (talk) 11:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Niko Bellic

How is Niko Bellic of GTA IV not Serbian? Firstly, Bellić (with the "ić" pronounced itch) is a known Serbian surname (I can provide proof if need be) Secondly, he is speaking the Serbo-Croatian language. I know an American guy voiced Niko but the way the words were pronounced are the Serbian dialect of that (Serbo-Croatian) language. On top of that any surname with the suffix (ić) is a Serbian name. Original Croat/Bosnian/Slovenian/Macedonian names dont end with that suffix. If a Croat name does end with (ić), that person has Serbian ancestry of some kind (either married into a Serbian family, or their ancestors were Serbs who converted from Serbian Orthodox into another religion. Thirdly, his mothers name is Milica (as seen on the various e-mails she sends Niko throughout the game) which is a Serbian name as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoravaiDrina (talk • contribs) 18:32, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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Serbian National Football Team

Somebody edited the Serbian National Football Team stats to include "Biggest Win" and "Worst Loss" of a time when the team was not "Serbia" but "Yugoslavia". You must understand that "Yugoslavia" (Although disbanned) still has a wiki page, for historical reasons. Therefore those stats didnt belong on the Serbian National Football Team page, I removed the incorrect stat change however now all of the stats are gone even though I didnt erase anything more. You, and the other wiki editors, have been a great help to me since I have signed up with the website. Please help me with this one :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoravaiDrina (talk • contribs) 02:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Serbian National Football Team

I fixed it, I just had to do it manually. Thanks anyway --MoravaiDrina (talk) 03:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

PlayStation Home

Having participated in this discussion, you may be interested in Talk:PlayStation_Home#WP:ENGVAR. Some standardized rigour (talk) 06:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Portal edit summary

I laughed out loud :D --Soetermans. T / C 20:51, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

F1 2011

That took me ages to do....! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistersaxon4 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you

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You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 66.87.2.33 (talk) 23:05, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for cleaning house on the Post-announcement section of Grand Theft Auto V. I wanted it done but just shook my head as it kept piling on. Thanks for taking the initiative! ChadH (talk) 23:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Polygon Man

I am referring to Steven Kent's Ultimate History of Video Games, which was published in 2001. For nearly a decade, this book was pretty much the standard when it came to video game history due to a lack of alternatives, but is unfortunately plagued with errors, so claims made in the prose should only be used very carefully. One strength of the book though is that it includes a good number of quotes from interviews he conducted with quite a few important gaming luminaries. Some of these have to be taken with a grain of salt too (Nolan Bushnell was notorious for distorting the truth in those days, and still engages in it to an extent today, though its not quite as bad). As for PlayStation marketing, there is a little bit of information from Steven Race and Jim Whims, although not a huge amount. The Polygon Man stuff is in an actual interview excerpt, so it should be pretty solid at least. I hope that helps. Indrian (talk) 10:33, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Video game designer vs developer

Hi! I see you changed a few people's category from developer to designer. I don't know many of them, but, for example, Zachary Barth is a developer, not just a designer. He also programmed, did the graphics, sound, etc. Cheers. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm going off the description of the categories. Developer Cat said it was for companies only, Designers Cat said it was for people. I'm working my way through every entry in the developer category. When I get to the end I'm going to start a CFD to get the Game Developer cat changed to game Development Companies (or similar). Because its causing confusion. I'm moving people into the designers cat at the moment so that none get lost come the CFD. I'm partway through the S's so should be ready for the CFD in a week's time. Can you put Barth back into designers in the interim please? - X201 (talk) 14:14, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I see. The descriptions on the categories are inaccurate in respect to their titles. Developer can be anywhere from a single person to a large business. I don't mind that companies and individuals are split into different categories, but, strictly speaking, there is a difference between a developer and a designer when you talk about a person. This is better explained at video game development#Roles and their articles -- video game developer and game designer, which are based on actual reliable sources. A designer essentially makes the game's rules, while the developer does everything (including design). The terms do get thrown around pretty arbitrarily though, so I suppose I don't mind calling people "designers" as long as it is consistent. (P.S. I'll reply here for easier reading). —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Edge

Hi! I am working to improve The Curse of Monkey Island article (offline) and need the April 1997 and August 1997 issues of Edge for research on the game. May I ask you to mail me some scans of the articles? Thanks in advance, Electroguv (talk) 18:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

User:Steve has already provided the issues to me, so I guess I don't need your help anymore. Still, thanks for your time. All the best, Electroguv (talk) 13:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

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User:trevj

I am at my wits end with this guy. He has now tried to created a targeted redirect using a misapplication of WP:TARGET as justification as part of what appears to be yet another effort to deny that Psygnosis is SCE Liverpool under a different name. When I called him on it and reverted, he left a note on my talk page accusing me of trying to assert ownership over the article. I personally consider his continuing attempts at subverting consensus and mangling wikipedia polices to be disruptive behavior, and I wonder if we should consider beginning some kind of administrator action. What do you think? Indrian (talk) 13:55, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to avoid thinking along the same lines myself, which is why I've asked for a third opinion on the edits. I'd like to think that we'll all be able to shake virtual hands and walk away having each learnt something after the previous consensus is confirmed or otherwise. Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 14:37, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I've started an RFC to get others involved and hopefully cool the situation down. The robust verbal exchanges over the weekend were at the top end of acceptable. As for the exchanges that have happened today. I think you've both crossed the line and should walk away for 24 hours and cool off. - X201 (talk) 14:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Its not the discussion that is the problem -- I don't mind if some hyperbole enters on either side -- its the continual editing of the article by trevj that appears to push positions that have been rejected by the current, though small, consensus. I am happy with both soliciting and waiting for more discussion on the matter, but I feel that trevj's most recent edits (the targeted redirects) should be rolled back and no one should make any changes to the relationship between the Psygnosis and SCE Liverpool articles until the matter is conclusively resolved. That is the behavior I find disruptive, not the discussion itself. Anyway, I originally posted merely because I was curious what your current views on the issue were since you are involved in the discussion, I won't post any further here, as your talk page does not need to be another front in the larger debate. Indrian (talk) 15:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.

I'm quite confused by your revert at Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.. How is 2013 correct? The league that the club competes in changes in June 2012, not June 2013. Why would it take a year for the relegation to come into effect? Mattythewhite (talk) 14:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

The template should only be updated once a year. The template states that the Season, and Position field are for "The last completed season". You have updated them and put the last completed season in there, so they won't need updating until the next completed season, in 2013. I put the note there because people kept changing it at various points in the season thinking it was wrong when it wasn't. - X201 (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
But it isn't fully updated until June 2012, when "The Championship" will replace "Premier League". So it's incorrect to say the next update is June 2013 when the June 2012 update hasn't been entirely instituted yet. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I was wrong about the "League" part. Missed that it was part of "Position". Sorry for the confusion. - X201 (talk) 15:08, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Max Payne 3 Cast

I put back the cast in. It DOES belong there. I actually came a few days ago to see who is in the cast. This game is heavy on acting so its relevant to this game. And the cast did a good job so they deserve credit. I was surprised to see the cast was removed when I came again today. Wikipedia said it was removed by you. So I put it back and please don't remove, others might want to also know what the cast is and like me they come to Wikipedia to find out. Don't know why you removed it. Its not copyright because i give credits to the cast. And its not spam because I am not associated with any of the cast or with Rockstar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max3cast (talk • contribs) 22:52, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:VG Reference library request, Edge June 2010

Hi, I'm looking for any info on Cave Story in this particular issue of Edge (I believe it's a review) to help with Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cave Story/archive1. You're also welcome to comment on the FAC as well. Thanks so much! Axem Titanium (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Done, check your email. - X201 (talk) 08:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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Video game platform discussion

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Nomination of Team6 Game Studios for deletion

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Max Payne 3 Glitches and bugs

Are they not worthy enough to be included as part of what comes included on the game disc? Literally, every copy of the game contains these glitches, so why shouldn't people know about them? Spiderliam (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tables

Thanks for the explanation, it makes a lot of sense and I completely agree with you. My only though is, instead of leaving the "no" cells blank, do you think it would be appropriate to use an em dash (—) as a placeholder? – Zntrip 15:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Luckily, a template already exists {{—}} – Zntrip 09:32, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay, in that case we would need a new template. – Zntrip 18:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Actually, I found a solution: {{No|—}} – Zntrip 09:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Team Bondi

Thank you for your feedback. By our username we hoped to be open and acknowledge any potential conflict of interest. For this reason we were especially careful with our edits - we only want to ensure the page includes the other side of the story.

With regard to your removal of the comment about Brian Robbins and the IGDA, we feel that the IGDA promising to 'investigate the claims' is very strong language given that the IGDA is a membership organisation to which Team Bondi never belonged. We have re-added a revised version of the comment which we hope will provide balance to the Robbins quote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KMMHR (talk • contribs) 01:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Your new language is much better, it makes our point and is much more encyclopaedic. Thank you for your assistance and your hospitality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KMMHR (talk • contribs) 00:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

The Ville

You PRODded this, and I deleted it. Undeletion has been requested on my talk page (and at DRV as well!) so I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 07:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of L.A. Noire

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Your GA nomination of L.A. Noire

The article L.A. Noire you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:L.A. Noire for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and review a nominated article yourself? GoPTCN 14:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Magazine query

I'm after some magazine scans (or summaries). I didn't see them listed in the library, but the Edge page says you have a full collection? So, if you happen to have them:

  • Cannon Fodder, E5
  • Soviet Strike, E39
  • Nuclear Strike, E51

Any "legacy" type info on Cannon Fodder and any preview/development info on the Strike games you might happen to know about would also be nice. Thanks, bridies (talk) 02:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Much obliged. I since found a number of sources for these but Edge is a cut above, even the early one from '93. Thanks again, bridies (talk) 14:07, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for catching and correcting that error. It was very much appreciated. Sysmithfan (talk) 01:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

User:TJRC is the person who deserves the thanks. They spotted it - X201 (talk) 07:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you. Sysmithfan (talk) 15:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Joe Danger 2: The Movie

Just out of curiosity, why put PlayStation first? (Not going to change it, don't worry, I'm just intrigued ;) ) — foxj 11:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Its grounded in the WP:VG guidelines. Alphabetic ordering of platforms to prevent fanboy edit wars. - X201 (talk) 08:01, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Ah, cool. I was just curious since obviously it was announced for XBLA first, is all! — foxj 08:12, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
The release dates field should be listed in Chronological order, but alphabetic order in the Platform field and prose saves a load of hassle.- X201 (talk) 08:20, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Full Throttle

I was wondering if you could look for some "development" type info on the game in 1994-1995 Edge issues. Thanks, Electroguv (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I can do that. Give me a week or two though, as I have real world things to deal with. - X201 (talk) 09:36, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Greetings

Okay so my contribution to the Talk:PlayStation Store was kind of a mess but the information about Sub Accounts actually being able to buy things could be of use. Do you have any suggestions for incorporating it in a way that would make it be okay on the talk page? CHCSPrefect (talk) 13:58, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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GTA V

I always forget using quarters instead of seasons! Thanks for the cleanup! --ChadH (talk) 16:46, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't remember axing that reference. Double thanks! --ChadH (talk) 16:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
IP Edits have already started! (Your season correction has already been reverted)... Page Protection was just lifted a few days ago...--ChadH (talk) 16:59, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Rockstar North Origin Problem

Sorry for the inconvenience, I kept on clicking on the wrong talk page hyperlink and nothing would appear (also I made this account). Now to the main point, I have had a Problem with the origin of the Rockstar North Head Quarters, it is clearly in the heart of Scotland, Edinburgh but it states it is on British land which is also true but misleading and not giving enough credit to the country it is located, Scotland. I know this problem has gone on for many years, for example, Andy Murray is a famous Tennis player, he is known as a British Tennis player when he succeeding in his career and he is known as a Scottish Tennis player when he is preceding in his career. With the launch of Rockstar North's new installment to Rockstar Games' "Best-Selling" franchise, Grand Theft Auto V , Grand Theft Auto enthusiasts like myself would like to learn something new from its developers. I know it states it is located in Scotland but I could be more specific since the majority of the world thinks that Scotland is a County in the country Great Britain. I could come to an agreement if we let visitors of the page know that it was located in the Country Scotland and the sovereign state Britain instead of them thinking that Scotland is a County in the Country Britain. - MisterFR3SH 01 (talk) 20:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


The best place for this discussion is on the article talk page. It will keep everything together, and allow other users to comment. - X201 (talk) 19:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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