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July 31[edit]

I can not access my old email to login :([edit]

Can you help?

My ID is "tonycrisp"

Thank you!

Tony Crisp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1600:A6D8:F9F5:8863:2198:FD21 (talk) 02:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, if you don't recall the password, and can't access the e-mail, then no one can help you. You will need to create a new account. RudolfRed (talk) 02:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tonycrisp was Created on May 24, 2007 but seems not to have made any edits, so you might as well abandon the account and create a new one. It is not possible to reset the password without the e-mail address given when the account was created, but if you eventually remember your password then you can still use the old account and add your new e-mail address. Dbfirs 12:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notice for referral to foreign-language WP[edit]

Resolved

I've seen notices on some articles to the effect: "The corresponding article on [other language] Wikipedia has additional information that could be transferred to this article". The Ship's cat article could use that in reference to the German article. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 04:32, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You can add the tag yourself using the code {{Expand German}} at the top of the article. However, that tag is usually unhelpful as it rarely gets cleaned up. If you understand both languages it would be better and easier to just expand the article yourself instead of waiting for several years for someone to do it.– Ammarpad (talk) 06:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the code. Unfortunately, my German has lapsed to "barely passable", I resorted to Google translate for that page; most of the sources are in German (I personally wouldn't x-fer info without verifying from source). [OP]:2606:A000:1126:28D:A891:7FCA:327C:C6F5 (talk) 07:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Need help editing Logical Investigations (Husserl)[edit]

Hello, I need help with editing the article Logical Investigations (Husserl). In the "References" section under "Journals", an error message reads, " soft hyphen character in |title= at position 32 (help)". I have no idea how to fix this. Assistance would be appreciated. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 05:09, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is the í (i-acute) in fenomenologí­a. This should be okay, but the only way I can fix it (in preview) is to replace it with an ordinary i. The software thinks its a Soft hyphen, but its not -- seems like a bug to me. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 05:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@FreeKnowledgeCreator: I think I've fixed it. The extra hyphen character was obvious once I copied the title out of the edit window into Notepad++. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:11, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Murtaja Adel Nasser and Ali Kadhim Hadi[edit]

I have two articles written in the title. You have written them professionally and 100% reliable. When I search within Wikipedia I find them but when I search the search engines (eg Google) the article does not appear. How to make it appear on search engines — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akram.altameemi (talk • contribs) 06:44, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You articles have not yet been reviewed by a New Page reviewer. Also they need more editing before that review, I suggest you read Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and attempt to fix that referencing mess. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Kadhim Hadi / Murtaja Adel Nasser[edit]

1. I have written three articles. Two have not yet been reviewed or the third has been reviewed. Note that the third was written after the two previous two. Is this normal and will they be reviewed? Note that all articles about football players were written in the same way. 2. Is the article reviewed and published any person entitled to delete it or it will not be deleted. I have added many sources and related articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akram.altameemi (talk • contribs) 08:24, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You need to ensure that the references are proper citations; please read Help:Referencing for beginners as advised above. There are over six thousand new articles awaiting review, some having been waiting for more than 3 months. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:40, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Akram.altameemi: Please see the advice and information given when you asked at this page on 29 July. The articles are in need of 'cleaning up' and better referencing etc. to meet Wikipedia's standards. Eagleash (talk) 09:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Three pages have now been added to mainspace with the issues unaddressed. This seems to have been done by C&P rather than moving. Eagleash (talk) 13:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editors with a cause[edit]

Many of your articles on medical conditions has sections of holistic or folk remedies. These have been largely removed from your website in the last few years. These remedies while possibly unproven had a place in the history of the disease or ailment. These edits should not be allowed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.242.125.2 (talk) 06:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IP user. It's hard to evaluate what you say when you don't tell us which articles you are talking about. If you think an article can be improved, or that an edit to an article was not useful, the best place to discuss it is on the article's talk page (every article has one, though sometimes nobody has happened to create it yet). If a topic in the history of a subject can be cited to reliable published sources, then it may well be a good idea for that topic to appear in the article. My guess is that the material you are referring to was unsourced, and removed for that reason. Particularly in articles on medical subjects, people often want to tell the world about their experiences, or things they have learnt; especially when it goes against established medical practice. That can be laudable, but it is not appropriate on Wikipedia, where absolutely everything should come from reliable published sources. --ColinFine (talk) 07:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For medical topics Wikipedia has a specific guideline on sourcing - see WP:MEDRS. Mikenorton (talk) 08:24, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Piedmont Region Headquarters opening date[edit]

I was unable to correct the cite error, in article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_Region_Headquarters . The opening date for this skyscraper had not been updated for years so I deleted the old one and replaced it with the new one. The new opening date of August 2020 has been referenced within the article. I read through the Help page but can't seem to correct the cite error that appeared when I deleted the old date Trappy (talk) 07:56, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it by copying back in the citation that you removed with the name "rep" so that it can continue to support the roof height and number of floors in the infobox - citations of the form <ref name=x \> are linked to a full citation that uses the same name - see Help:Footnotes#WP:REFNAME. Mikenorton (talk) 08:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's too drafty in here[edit]

Could someone delete Draft:F. Harmon Weight? The article is already in mainspace and has survived my AfD nomination. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done by User:Eagleash. Willbb234 (talk) 12:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Willbb234: Not deleted... I only declined the draft. {{Db-a10}} may apply here but I've always found that to have 'complications' (probably due to page history and the like). Any other editor is welcome to request (or admin. to apply) speedy as they see fit. Eagleash (talk) 12:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hah. Hadn't thought of that approach. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Content is written like an advertisement[edit]

Hello,

Do you have any guidelines for writing a company article? Because this message appears always: This article contains content that is written like an advertisement. This is the site maybe you can help me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudenberg_IT

Kind regards, Paula PerschkeSophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT (talk) 11:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Sophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT: first, can we clarify that you have declared that you are being paid to contribute to this article? Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 11:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Willbb234: See the declaration at User:Sophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:56, 31 July 2019 (U

I am a employee at this company. Regards Paula PerschkeSophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT (talk) 12:21, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Have you familiarised yourself with the policies of conflicts of interest, promotional content and neutral point of view? If so, then there shouldn’t be any problems with editing the article as long as you stick within these guidelines and ensure everything written is backed up by a reliable source. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 12:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Paula Perschke, the account user:Sophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT was set up by an employee called Sophie. As Wikipedia does not allow editors to share accounts (WP:NOSHARING), you will need to set up a new account (if you are not Sophie). TSventon (talk) 12:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, now I am Sophie. I have another question regarding this topic. Freudenberg IT was bought by a canadian company and now its called Syntax Systems. Do you have an advise how to communicate this name change on wikipedia ?

Regards, SophieSophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT (talk) 15:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That would be achieved by a WP:Move but the article would then have to be rewritten so that it is about Syntax Systems. Would it not be better to leave the historical information about Freudenberg IT? The takeover is already recorded at the end of the article. The move would be appropriate if Syntax Systems has no history other than as Freudenberg IT. Dbfirs 16:46, 31 Ju

But Syntax System has not the same history like Freudenberg IT. So what to do in this case? i can't do a WP: Move ? And is it possible to delete this post about Freudenberg IT and write a new article ? Sophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT (talk) 08:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sophie Westphal at Freudenberg IT No, you should not delete the old article, since Freudenberg IT existed in the past so deserves an article. You have a WP:Conflict of interest and probably WP:Paid status which you are obliged to declare. It might be WP:Too soon for an article about Syntax Systems, but if it has been written about at length in independent WP:Reliable sources then it deserves a separate article. You are probably not the best person to write the article because of your conflict of interest and because you know too much about the company, but if you can forget what you know, avoid marketing language, and just summarise what the sources say, then it would probably be best if you use WP:Articles for creation rather than trying to publish directly into main space. This gives you the opportunity to develop the article and receive any further guidance you need before final publication. The thread was archived as I was typing this reply. Dbfirs 08:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add a person[edit]

How can a person be added on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santi316 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An article can be written about a person if they meet the notability guidelines and there are sufficient sources on the person. If you would like to write the article see Your First Article. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 11:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If the person in question is still living, it is very important you read our policy on biographies of living people. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 12:26, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to combine list defined and embedded references?[edit]

Is it possible to let embedded references be list defined?

For instance, can the notes and references text below ("A footnote" and "A reference for the footnote") be moved to the Notes and References section, also when in source editing view: — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Perennial Hugger (talk • contribs) 15:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.[nb 1]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ A footnote.[1]

References[edit]

  1. ^ A reference for the footnote.
I checked out the Charity Lamb article, the problem is that the text of the footnotes and references is located in the main article when in source editing mode. I have many long quotations I'd like to use and I want to move all of that text to the bottom of the article (also when viewed in source editing mode) to make the page easier to edit.The Perennial Hugger (talk) 15:56, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is reference 1.[a] This is reference 2.[b]

Notes

  1. ^ a b Very long footnote 1[1]
  2. ^ a b Very long footnote 2[2]

References

  1. ^ content1
  2. ^ content2
  • Hmm.. Well you should be able to do it as I have done above, but I'm not sure why I'm getting an undefined citation error. Anybody have an idea? GMGtalk 16:07, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • There you go The Perennial Hugger. You can use the markup above. GMGtalk 16:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thanks mate! The Perennial Hugger (talk) 16:24, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there double backlinks ("a" and "b") in the Notes section?The Perennial Hugger (talk) 16:37, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Perennial Hugger and GreenMeansGo: (edit conflict) The software doesn't support list-defined notes calling list-defined references; this is the long-standing software bug phab:T22707. Here you've managed to construct an example that doesn't show an error message, but it's not working correctly: each "Note" has two backlinks marked "a b" even though each is called only once. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:38, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oooh. Dang. I hadn't notice the new error I'd made. :( GMGtalk 16:47, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bummer. I have read a lot of how-to's but still not found a way to do all of this 1.) Have citations and quotes at the bottom of the article, also in source edit view. 2.) Not duplicating any of the citations. 3.) Have an exact page reference for each quote. Any suggestions? The Perennial Hugger (talk) 17:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Evad37/MoveToDraft[edit]

Please see this post on my talk page. I sometimes use this script when reviewing new pages. However, I do not want the script to try to create a draftify log in my userspace. An admin salted the page: See here. Is there a way to configure the script that prevents it from trying to create a draftify log without the use of creation protection? Also, please ping me when you answered this question. Interstellarity (talk) 17:10, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Interstellarity: The best place to ask this question is at the script's talkpage: User talk:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js, the author already answered many questions there. To attempt answering the question anyway, the functionality currently does not exist. So you either have to stick with the protection workaround or ask the author if they'd consider adding that option. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:53, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ammarpad: See here. Interstellarity (talk) 19:24, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When will Wiki page appear on Google?[edit]

Hi,

I'm trying to figure out if I have missed a step in publishing this page so it will appear in a Google search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_D._Hager

Because when I google search for "Gregory D. Hager" or "Gregory D. Hager Wiki", I can't find the page, even if I scroll through several pages of Google. I know this probably has to do with SEO or Wiki's review process, but when do articles typically appear on a Google search? I published this two months ago and am wondering if there is anything I can do to expedite this article showing up on Google.

Thanks, Catherine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham562 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It takes a very long time. I have searched for the few articles I have created on google and have not found them even though I searched for the exact name. I guess it will eventually show up though, maybe with more pageviews. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 17:34, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • They will show up when they have been reviewed by a New Page Reviewer. If nobody gets to it in 90 days, it will automatically be allowed to have search engines see it. CrowCaw 17:38, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Crow Willbb234 (talk) 17:39, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have reviewed the page. Eagleash (talk) 17:56, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunately I was a little hasty! The page apparently contains copy-vio of this page. I have tagged, notified the creator and marked as unreviewed. Eagleash (talk) 18:06, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

talk comments being deleted[edit]

First of all I`m very confused about this..I am a layperson and have no desire whatsoever to edit articles as I know I wouldn`t be very good at it...however I do make suggestions from time to time in talk..some of my suggestions have been deleted some not..initially I had made some comments on the Donald Trump article that could be construed as inappropriate although even there questionable as the comments were written in good faith..since then I have been meticulous about only making comments that seem appropriate. Some of these comments have been deleted with no word as to why or who did it..there is a lot of back and forth in this article for obvious reasons with virtually everyone editing this article having an agenda including myself which is why I`m not going to edit this article..it would be unethical although it doesn` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:2340:9470:b539:bda0:bd88:3aba (talk) 18:59, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 2600, are you sure your comments are being deleted? The recent comments from your range seem to all be in place at Talk:Donald_Trump#Post-Presidency. Some older comments may be archived on such high-traffic talk pages. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, but I cannot seem to find the talk page additions in question (maybe they were revision deleted?), were you editibg on a different IP or on a logged in account? If I can see the content of the talk page contributions, then I might be able to help. Regards , Willbb234 (talk) 19:07, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
P.S: Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: , but do not sign in articles.
I think the comments are still there under a different but similar IP address. WP:Why create an account? might be good advice. Dbfirs 20:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
With IPv6 addresses it is usually worth widening the range, as the second half of the address will often change. Hence Special:Contributions/2600:1702:2340:9470::/64. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Transcribing owned media of historical reference[edit]

Hello, I am currently transcribing owned media of historical reference as pertaining to Immaculate Conception School in Elkton, MD. My draft is continually rejected and I am in need of assistance. Yesterday evening, I spent a portion of time recording and linking these historical manuscripts from a Dedication Source of Immaculate Conception School. Within this article section were references to historical events surrounding Catholicism in Maryland. All of which were linked to current Wikipedia articles for reference and had in-text citations to external sources. The Dedication Source is a church archive and has been vetted based on other primary and secondary historical sources of the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happycat13 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your contributions to Draft:Immaculate Conception School, Elkton, MD were removed by Diannaa as copyright violations. Maybe you should discuss this with her. Maproom (talk) 20:55, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Happycat13. Transcribing material is rarely appropriate for Wikipedia. If the material has been reliably published, then it should be cited with suitable bibliographic information to enable a reader to locate it, eg via a major library: a link to an online version is a convenience only; and unless the material is out of copyright, it will probably be a copyright infringement to scan or transcribe it anyway. If the material has not been published, then it cannot be used as a source for a Wikipedia article. Period. --ColinFine (talk) 21:44, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding bio on a living person[edit]

I have followed the guidelines, on adding bio's but not sure what I am doing wrong. I want to add a personal page about me, do I need to create articles first based on my expertise, or add my bio? I just started with the basics about me. But where do I go from here?

Thank Chayo Briggs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chayobriggs (talk • contribs) 19:50, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You may add some personal information to your user page if you wish, but this must not look like an article. I assume that you've read WP:Autobiography, and found independent WP:Reliable sources written about yourself. The article in main space should be a summary of these sources. Dbfirs 20:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that you have made nine separate attempts over the past year to put an article on Wikipedia. The articles you submitted did not conform to Wikipedia's standards for articles. Copyright infringement (twice), advertising (4 times), writings not consistent with the goals of Wikipedia (3 times) were the reasons given. Wikipedia articles are not based on expertise, they are based on reliable, published sources. First, you should locate the aforementioned sources, then you can write the article.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:46, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chayobriggs: Please read WP:YFA carefully. If you are not notable as we define the term (WP:N) then your efforts will only lead to frustration. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. read WP:NOT to see what that means. We do not want and will not accept a "personal page about yourself". We would accept an encyclopedic article about a notable person, if you are such a person, but please also read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY: it usually doesn't end well. If, after all that, you wish to continue, then, since you are having difficulties applying our guidelines, please look at some articles about people similar to yourself to see how other have applied our guidelines. -Arch dude (talk) 23:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bulk messaging all users in a category[edit]

If an ed places various userboxes on their user page, a bot automatically adds their name to a corresponding category. E.g., I just added a userbox to my own page which then caused my name to be added Category:Wikipedians interested in climate change.

Some of us have recently dusted off an inactive task force and are trying to grow WP:WikiProject Climate change. Many of the users in the category of interested eds were placed in the category some time ago and apparently are not really paying attention to this topic area. Therefore, they may not be aware of the recent efforts to build the WikiProject.

When we're ready to ramp up our recruitment effort, it would be great if we could bulk-notify all members in the category, with a single message that would produce a notification for each ed. Is there a way to do that?

Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:06, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NewsAndEventsGuy: You can request to send a message to all members in the category. See Wikipedia:Mass_message_senders for guidance and instructions. RudolfRed (talk) 00:30, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Never heard of that tool, it's perfect NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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