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Hope you come back after a much deserved break .. we need you around to stay sane.--Eloquence * 02:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll be around, just not in this en.wp community... A big chunk of the core of this community has simply gone off the rails and lost perspective and if I don't want to get raging mad about that, then I need to step away. I would seriously question if we still want to have community liaisons here.. Seem rather unhealthy job conditions to me, I don't want them to get a burn out. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, actually we'd need more people like you, not less! It's a shame that of all people always those who do good work and would be able to sort things out feel the need to take a timeout instead of those who messed up in the first place... --Patrick87 (talk) 02:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

We need a different community. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to stir up any discussion here again but I can't let this comment go unanswered: In my opinion you're only telling a very little part of the story and I think you're wrong. There are parts of the community that we could do without, but the majority of users (those who you don't even hear at those disgusting discussions) are actually the different community you're talking about. By taking a break each and every one of them looses a great contributor. Especially since you are able to think as part of the community! Something many WMF staffers seemingly can't, which is the cause of all the hostility in the first place. 99% of the problems we have is lack of communication (so actually I think we need more community liaisons, with more power, which think closer to the community, in contrast to what you proposed to Erik above). I hope after some time you'll realize that the "community" you can't identify yourself with anymore right now is only a very small portion of us and that your work is appreciated! --Patrick87 (talk) 10:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Of course, by definition, I'm telling MY story. And my story, is that I don't want to read and have to mentally process all this crap anymore that people throw around. Negativity has taken over and I don't want to have to deal with that. I wish I could think of all those other 'good' experiences, but I can't. All of us in this community have a problem, but I don't see how to solve it, so i'm doing what is best for the only thing that I can control, which is 'me'. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Although unlucky for all of us this is a totally valid conclusion. I hope this turns out to be the right decision for you and I'd totally love to have you around again some time in future when things have calmed down. --Patrick87 (talk) 11:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Too bad for en.wiki; more TheDJ for the rest of us! :P --Nemo 11:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I saw your updates to scientific method, hypothetico-deductive method, and was shocked to learn of your notice. I hope you enjoy your break, and thank you. --Ancheta Wis (talk | contribs) 12:46, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, TheDJ. I hope we're able to draw you back in the future to this community, but I know you also do excellent work elsewhere in the Wikimedia world, and I hope you'll find it within yourself to continue. You're one of the wisest Wikimedians with whom I have had the pleasure of interacting. Risker (talk) 15:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I hope you come back. You're a wonderful Wikipedian. --Ori.livneh (talk) 17:02, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, The DJ, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling so fed up. I was looking forward to what you would make of the quote-box project. In the meantime, thank you for the box with the left-hand border. The mix of your and WAID's boxes is now making Female genital mutilation a little easier to read. All the best, and thank you for all your work and dedication, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I really hope this helps... you or someone else

User:Dweller/Suggestions for wikistressed editors --Dweller (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) Media Viewer RfC

You are being notified because you have participated in previous discussions on the same topic. Alsee (talk) 20:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

@Alsee: No thank you. My english wikipedia break is far too enjoyable. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedia module categories

Hi, I've noticed that Category:Wikipedia module categories is empty and there aren't that many module categories (unlike for templates), so don't you think this category can go and we can just add module categories to Category:Wikipedia modules ? Cenarium (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

@Cenarium: It's just copy paste work from when we first introduced modules, so whatever seems sane, let's go with that. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I've deleted it then. Cenarium (talk) 18:50, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

TABINDEX

Hi !

I haven't followed mediaWiki accessibility changes for a few years. But a few years ago I remember that some improvements were attempted regarding the tabindex problem. And it wasn't very good, it left at least half of the problem unsolved. I have no idea how it is now, and no time to assess. Could you explain how the problem was fixed ? Thanks ! Dodoïste (talk) 09:44, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Well first of all, the entire collapsible section script was recently removed. Second, in the gadget (that re-adds it for those who wish) it now only uses tabindex=0 and not anything above 0. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:47, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I did not notice the left menu collapsible script was removed. That resolves the tabindex problem indeed. Tabindex is still used in the search field, but it seems to be a decent use. Looks like tabindex=0 and =-1 are used according to best practices.

I will update the page with a few explanations. :-) Dodoïste (talk) 21:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:CCKLogo.gif

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Sharebox

I see you have blanked User:TheDJ/sharebox.js. User:TheDJ/Sharebox is still linked in many places so I suggest you mention Sharebox is gone. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

There are still users being referred to Sharebox like in [1] so I have added a signed post to User:TheDJ/sharebox.js saying this tool is no longer available. I hope that's OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Special character inserter

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Mobile Wikipedia problems

Mind if we continue this conversation here? Just less clutter so I can watch it, and hopefully it'll be faster to resolve. Here are my points:

Since about two days ago, on my iPhone running iOS 8 in Safari, about half of all Wikipedia Mobile articles have sections that can't collapse. Great Wall of China and Omakase are two examples.
- I copied Great Wall of China to my sandbox and opened that in mobile Safari, but the sections did collapse.
On my iPhone, I wiped all cookies, cache, history etc. via Settings -> Safari and the problem still persists.
- I even opened the problematic articles in iOS Simulator on my Mac, and the problem still exists there. Surely this means that the problem isn't associated with a single device.
The problem does not exist when browsing to the mobile version of a Wikipedia article in Firefox on my Mac.

I'd like to help resolve this ASAP if possible because it's definitely an annoyance to me personally, especially when reading long articles on mobile. And I can't recall for sure, but I think this problem has occurred before.

Also, is there a Git repo for mobile Wikipedia, so I can browse around? Gary (talk · scripts) 14:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

@Gary: I have tried both logged in and logged out and I have no such problem. I suspect you are logged out. Can you try logging in on the mobile site ? Possibly your ISP is doing some caching some resources incorrectly. Such caching should be bypassed if you are logged in. For the code, go to Extension:MobileFrontend and choose the "browse file tree" link —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:42, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Logging in fixed it. Sucks if my ISP is causing problems. It's a pretty big ISP so I'd imagine this would affect a lot of people then... Gary (talk · scripts) 17:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Another possible cause can be your modem/router in the home. There are some models that do (really crappy) caching as well. Restarting that might sometimes wipe that cache. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:13, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

On my iPhone, I turned off WiFi and connected to my wireless carrier. My wireless carrier is a different company from my Internet provider, yet the problem still occurs on my wireless carrier. Hard to imagine that the problem affects two telecom companies...? Gary (talk · scripts) 20:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Quick question, but will it be possible to push Wikipedia Watchlist updates to a smartphone in the near future? Gary (talk · scripts) 18:22, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

If someone builds a push service, sure. Long term that is planned. Though I would say the more challenging part is the filtering, categorizing and smart selection of what needs to be or can be pushed. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:08, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps even simply just send out one notification a day, specifying the number of watchlist changes in the past 24 hours. It makes life easier than to keep checking the watchlist when I don't have too many articles on it. Gary (talk · scripts) 01:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Village Pump Barnstar
		For being so amazingly helpful on WP:VPT! Ori.livneh (talk) 09:05, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Help desk

Thanks for your comment on WP:HD. I already installed it, so it doesn't make a difference for me anymore, and I didn't need the ping, but it's a good idea to add it to the discussion for others. — Sebastian 08:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Just another question

Hope you're in good spirits! There has been something that has bothered me about our recent VPT discussion about making edits to high-risk templates. Say an editor (could be me or anyone) makes an edit to a template that's transcluded to 2 or 3 million pages. Now, say that even after sandboxing and testing, the edit turns out to need reversion. This is not just a minor edit (I've made some of those, and I just wait a day or two and then revert it), let's say this is an edit that really needs to be reverted quickly. I have seen other editors revert in such cases, but I've still wondered about the effect on the server load. So the question is: does the second edit (the revert) cause the server to drop it altogether and move on to the next job? or does that second edit jam the server just as any other second edit within a few minutes of the first edit would do? – Paine 20:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

The job queue has some simple optimizations, one of which are a few 'deduplication' techniques. So both jobs would keep running, but a page will only be refreshed once, if that is enough. The '1st' job would update the page after the '2nd' change, and the '2nd' job would see that the page in question was already updated after the '2nd change' had been made that triggered job 2 and drop it, effectively treating it as '1 change to 3 million pages + the pages processed between change 1 and change 2'. Since the pages before and after are equal, you wouldn't notice a difference. But they do extend the queue, so it might be visible due to the pace with which OTHER changes on the queue are processed.

However, this is again exactly the point of the queue, to 'pace' the server so that you don't have to concern yourself with fearing to harm the server. Never avoid making 'proper' changes for the sole purpose of performance. But do realize that large cascading changes do have an effect in 'freshness' of page information and that at the scale of English Wikipedia this can cause huge 'long tails' in processing changes, that might become noticeable to readers and editors alike. Thinking before acting can be advantageous. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Okay, there's a nice sigh of relief! I think I'll continue to wait a day or two to revert the minor bloopers, and I won't feel as if I might shut down the project for reverting a major error if absolutely necessary. Thank you ever again (more than you know!) Joys! – Paine 21:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Deprecated popups.js

For User:Lupin/popups.js, I'm importing it into my monobook.js because I prefer including all my scripts in monobook.js rather than Gadgets, so I can see what I am currently using. Do I have an alternative if I want to use the script but don't want to do it through Gadgets? Gary (talk · scripts) 17:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Fix that script so that it properly loads the gadget. But honestly, i'm not really sure what that would entail right now. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 06:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

@Gary: there are some instructions for global.js which are reported to work. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 06:36, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks those work. Also, I noticed that Wikipedia is loading the mw global variable a bit later than usual, because my Greasemonkey scripts are failing now when they call mw. Got any suggestions for how I could fix this? Gary (talk · scripts) 00:40, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Popups and PILT

Firstly, thank you for your suggestion regarding replacing sajax* in PILT. I've made that change, and I've run PILT with the JavaScript console open and taken out all the deprecation warnings I could find. Now I would like to understand what PILT is doing that disables popups - popups works on an ordinary page, but not in PILT. Have you any suggestions? Philip Trueman (talk) 09:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

PILT probably dynamically creates links, Popups only attaches event handlers to the links that are initially part of the page. At least that's what I suspect the problem is. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:15, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok-a-ay, so it would be possible for PILT to attach its own handlers to specific links it created, and so replicate the functionality of popups for those links, yes? Hmm. I can see this being pushed to the back-burner for a long while. As I said, I'm grateful for your help in this. Philip Trueman (talk) 15:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

closeFPC

Sorry to make you cry, but I'm not much of a software person :) Thank you for your work in bringing that script up to par. Jujutacular (talk) 17:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

User:TheDJ/closeFPC.js

Could you add "Currency" to the possible categories. Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Culture,_entertainment,_and_lifestyle/Currency and I want to make an own category for it, but not before the script is updated. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 15:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I do not maintain this script, I just patched it up. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:52, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Winter prototype

You've only re-affirmed my existing angst by saying Winter is still being used as a reference for other skin related development.

While the current Winter prototype "seems" functional - it's riddled with sophomoric errors in its supporting .css defs (making the example appear far more crippled than it probably is). See the winter.css file tested against w3.org's validator for example. Out of the 31 errors reported, 20 or so are simple typo-like syntax errors.

Who can fix up those supporting .css files so developers can refer to a far more clear 'Winter' picture in moving forward? -- George Orwell III (talk) 03:22, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

No one will ever copy those lines, rest assured. And even when that would happen, it would have to go through git review and other developers would correct it. P.S. most of our CSS does not pass the w3 validator, we operate on the basis that real world browser's are more important than validators, which makes passing the validator somewhat impossible. There are some efforts to look at css linting for all commits with CSS, but the linters have similar problem to the validators. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 07:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Using the validator was just an easy way to list some of the more obvious errors (overflow: show instead of overflow: visible, left: 170 instead of left: 170px, padding: none instead of padding: 0 among the more esoteric ones you speak of. Believe me, I was not trying to comply with some outside rule or spec that has little wiggle room under the wiki-mark-up as it is.

The errors are kind of severe at the end of the day was all that I was trying to say (can't expect something to [re]size top: to -110px on hover or whatever when the unit type px piece is completely missing in the .css definition right?) -- George Orwell III (talk) 11:37, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Check something for me?

Would you check this and let me know if I've screwed up? (Or just fix it.) This Wikipedia currently boasts a grand total of 53 templates, and this one was ugly enough to be irritating. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Help decide the future of Wikimania

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).

After reviewing the consultation, we'd like to hear your feedback on on this survey.

In addition, feel free to share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference, including Wikimania. We plan to compile and share back outcomes from this consultation in February.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk), from Community Resources 21:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Reference Preview

Thanks for allowing previewing references when editing a single paragraph. This is a great help ! Olevy (talk) 10:21, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

I promised to help pass on a thank you for your work on this as well. Thanks! /Johan (WMF) (talk) 15:51, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello,

I was pleasantly surprised to see the ref displayed on the bottom of my edited paragraph when I previewed it!

I (in French WP) often do little mistake such as using Titre instead of titre (only lower letters) and now I can see it before saving!

It's great, thanks!

--Gaillac (talk) 18:06, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

There were many people involved in this one, mostly User:PiRSquared17 initially, and several other reviewers. And User:Cenarium is looking set to drive it home even further. I will forward the appreciation. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I'll add my thanks as well!

—D'Ranged 1 VT^alk 00:18, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Towards a New Wikimania results

Last December, I invited you to share your views on the value of Wikimedia conferences and the planning process of Wikimania. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared this report summarizing your feedback and important changes for Wikimania starting in 2018 as an experiment. Feedback and comments are welcome at the discussion page. Thank you so much for your participation. I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, 22:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Live Preview window size bug

There seems to be a minor size problem causing the edit window and the preview window to stack, and every time I type the preview moves into focus again. It's mildly annoying.—^cyberpower_{Chat:Limited Access} 02:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Bug screenshot for actual live preview script.png will explain what I'm talking about.—^cyberpower_{Chat:Limited Access} 02:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

@C678: do you have this at all screen widths ? Which browser, and do you have a zoom level set or something ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it happens on my laptop too. Both use Chrome, and the screens are set to 200%.—^cyberpower_Chat:Online 19:01, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

OK, i'll take a look. Thanks for the report. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, I've not been able to reproduce yet. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

It happens almost regularly for me.—^cyberpower_{Be my Valentine:Limited Access} 16:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

@Cyberpower678: right, I think I found some possible causes for this, and I've made some changes that might have fixed this, or might have mad it worse. Please let me know. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:41, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

It seems to be working fine now. :D—^cyberpower_Chat:Online 18:32, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thank you for helping with "Add reference list to section preview if missing" Naraht (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Citation Barnstar
		Maproom (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

For your contributions to making the addition of citations so much easier. Maproom (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Ditto. Thanks. Tvoz/talk 20:50, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to add my thanks as well.--S Philbrick (Talk) 16:17, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The "Listen" template

Regarding this section where you commented at the Village Pump, I just wanted to let you know that everything looks okay now on my laptop, thanks for your help. On my iPhone (which uses Safari), I still don't see anything between the title and the description (e.g. I don't see the big back triangle that you can click to play), but the iPhone has always been like that for me.Anythingyouwant (talk) 14:33, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi DJ, is it in your power to insert a button into the "Listen" template to play all files automatically, one after the other? That would be a big improvement IMHO. Also, do you know why I cannot use the "Listen" template to play anything on an iPhone that uses Safari? Cheers. Anythingyouwant (talk) 22:57, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Becauae ou support for media plaback is terrible. I'm working on a rewrite of everything, in my own spare time, but that will still takes quite some time before it is finished. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the reply, and for your work on a rewrite. Cheers. I will give you the prettiest barnstar you ever got, when you finish! 🎁Anythingyouwant (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	You're awesome. Thank you for going the extra mile to help with this. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:35, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		And another from me for the same thing. Good job :-) `Fred Gandt (talk\|contribs)` 01:49, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Hovercards prefs

Hello, you may want to participate and help publicize the voting for Hovercards preferences here. Thanks!--Melamrawy (WMF) —Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

rollback

If you would like enwiki rollback flag, just ping me and I'll add for you. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I gave up my sysop rights for a reason and I choose not to have any of these rights for now. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:53, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Discussion on Phabricator about Popups

You are invited to join the discussion at T137613 regarding whether to create a Phabricator project for the Popups gadget. (As a maintainer of the gadget, legoktm thought you'd be interested.) Thanks! Enterprisey (talk!) _{(formerly APerson)} 21:08, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:HD/share

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Bug in Actual Live Preview script

I just noticed this, surprisingly, but I installed this into my global JS. I think this is such a fantastic tool. Unfortunately, it only works on the English Wikipedia. It would be nice if it worked on other wikis too. :-)—^cyberpower_{Chat:Limited Access} 20:39, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Village Pump

Hi, I kindly ask you to immediately edit your comment: here so that it does not ~~make it personal by~~ feel like you are attacking me with allegations, suggest that I have a problem or that it is about any particular case. It is a general question about a policy and this is our first interaction if I remember correctly. --Asterixf2 (talk) 16:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:AGF and Generic you. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:02, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:AGF - this is why I have asked for correction here and on IRC first (unsuccessfully); Generic you is, in my opinion, inappropriate and unprofessional in such cases and is definitely suggestive independently of intention (good or bad faith). --Asterixf2 (talk) 01:58, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

There is nothing "inappropriate and unprofessional" about using the English language as it is commonly used, as shown in the Generic you article. It refers to the usage as casual, colloquial, and less formal, but there is no rule against those things in Wikipedia talk spaces. Wikipedia:Competence is required, and that applies to the language itself. TheDJ has explained their intent and there is no evidence of bad faith. (Note that I just used the singular they, another English language construct.) My suggestion is to drop this as quickly as possible, lest people stop taking you seriously. ―Mandruss ☎ 04:02, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

"This use of the generic you can lead to miscommunication and offense, so care should be taken in its presentation." [2] --Asterixf2 (talk) 10:55, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

There was no attack. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:54, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Thank you for your vote. Just in case, I have corrected my wording above. --Asterixf2 (talk) 21:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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Work queues

Hello there. I mentioned you over at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey#.22Work_queues.22.2C_.22inventory_pages.22.2C_or_.22to-do.22_displays_for_each_WikiProject_and_entire_communities and was wondering if you knew anything about this idea. Thanks! Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:25, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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	Der Technikerorden
	Thank you, I like the option to print the series box and the overview of related articles at the bottom of the article! Hawillmcse (talk) 11:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

phantom word

You recently wrote at the Village Pump

They couldn't phantom that they had ever used monobook or the OLD WikiEditor, even though they must have used it.

I'm pretty sure the word you want is fathom instead of phantom. --Thnidu (talk) 01:57, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Mysandbox listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Mysandbox. Since you had some involvement with the Mysandbox redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Thryduulf (talk) 13:49, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Signpost redesign

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Story-preload/NAN3 looks good. Let me know which of the sidebar/inline content types listed in the style guide you can salvage, so that we can discuss what to do with the ones that can't. (after hardening those changes into templates, you or I could go through the project templates to convert the old preloads to the new stuff) ResMar 23:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Resident Mario: Yes, i'm mostly pondering about how to go about the templatization right now. I can either go with a single block, consisting of two balanced templates, which would contain all the content, or with a canvas template and sub 'block' templates. I hope to figure out the final details somewhere in the next few days. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

It works! But now it shifts the viewport...

Hi,

I've got some good news: Remember that script you helped me on, for hiding/showing list item annotations?

Well, it works.

Thank you. Your guidance helped immensely.

I'm currently trying to improve it by stabilizing the position of the viewport relative to the content displayed before the toggle was activated.

I've posted a description of the problem at VPT.

I'd be honored if you would look at the script and tell me what you think. The Transhumanist 02:14, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Responsive content

Hi TheDJ! Saw your improved viewing gadget and thought I'd let you know that I made something somewhat similar: https://github.com/molly/easyreader. Feel free to crib anything if you're so inclined. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

The sidebar is not showing correctly when the {{TOC limit}} template is used. For example, here is one with it being used and one without it being used. Could there be a way to disable the template working for the gadget since mostly the reason for it being used is because it's too long? -- 1989 20:27, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @1989: Yeah, anything that manipulates the TOC, will likely cause the TOC to not be eligible to become sidebar content. I can special case it, but it's an endless list of special cases most likely for corner situations like these. I'll add it to the list of known limitations for now, and when I have time to dig deeper into it again, i might take it on. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
The text in the article tightens up when I use VisualEditor. -- 1989 14:08, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- @1989: can you try to be a bit more descriptive, and maybe upload a screenshot to phabricator ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:34, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
  The width of the text becomes shorter when I use VisualEditor. Did it not happen to you? -- 1989 18:36, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Pings

Just FYI: It looks like both pings at Template talk:Refbegin § indent=yes on mobile worked. I got notifications for both edits. Hairy Dude (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Can you nuke some pages?

Hoi DJ,

Zou je wellicht de de pagina's onder User:Multichill/Free uploads behalve User:Multichill/Free uploads weg kunnen gooien? Jij lijkt me wel zo'n admin die daar de benodigde tools voor heeft. Multichill (talk) 15:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@Multichill: done. (Twinkle with batch delete). —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Dank je, dat ruimt op. Multichill (talk) 16:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Ik heb nog een stel pagina's gevonden die weinig meer toevoegen als ze niet worden bijgewerkt.

Zou je de pagina's onder User:Multichill/top self uploaders behalve User:Multichill/top self uploaders ook weg kunnen Twinklen? Multichill (talk) 08:25, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Need your attention on Jimbo Talk

Before Smallboner gets fully erect. - 2001:558:1400:4:4D0F:38FF:2E09:A9DF (talk) 19:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Social media buttons

Hey DJ. It was great to meet you at the Wikimedia Conference! I've been thinking about social media buttons a bit recently, and read over the previous proposals to add them, and noticed that you made a sharing gadget using AddThis. I think I'd like to propose this again (social media buttons generally, of the pre-loaded URL type, not AddThis), but with a better initial pitch, and some (factual) rebuttals to the common arguments that have been made in the past. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts on this generally, but also on the notes that I've made here. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 21:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Nihongo

They no longer serve a purpose as the entire site is rendered in UTF-8, so the characters don't need any additional character class notation. The characters themselves tell the browsers what they are. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:03, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

@Nihonjoe: It's not about just font and characters set selection. There is semantic meaning. It tells machines, like screenreaders or search engines something as well. I have no problem with removing the class annotation, but the removing lang= is a totally different thing and should not be done. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I'll remove only the class annotation. Any ideas on what to do to not "pollute" COINs data? (see the template near the top of the page on the template) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

There is no way to fix that. Then again this template probably has no business inside a CS1 template to begin with. I do note that CS1 has script- and trans- variants of title and chapters of works attributes to provide similar functionality for those specific elements of it. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:49, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Replacing the old toolbar with a script

Hello, Derk-Jan. What do you think about turning the 2006 wikitext editor's toolbar into a user script or gadget? The deprecation is official, but we might have a couple of months before it actually disappears from the servers. If you're planning to do this, then I'd like to schedule it around you. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:32, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Sandbox

Thanks again for your help! I noticed this edit. That bit of code placed a second sandbox link next to the existing sandbox link in the page's top line, the difference being that it opens in "edit" mode, rather than the standard "read". It's a link that I find useful but can live without if necessary. As I indicated before, this stuff is like voodoo to me, so if you tell me that I'm better off without it, that's fine with me. Otherwise I'd like to keep it, but I don't want to poke around in the works without making sure I can't break anything, so I'd welcome your advice, thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: I had misinterpreted that. Thank you for pointing it out. restored and good luck editing ! —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

my sources script

Hi, You mentioned that my script is "not up to date with coding standards". I write regexes but am not a proficient coder, and would appreciate it if you could explain in what way my script is not up to standard, and maybe assist me in rewriting the offending part(s) of my script. Regards, -- Ohc ^¡digame! 21:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Ohconfucius: Hi, I made some example changes to one of your scripts. Most problems have to do with either not guaranteeing that mediawiki.util has been loaded, relying on other scripts, yet not waiting for them to have finished downloading etc. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

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js help

Hi, I see that you've been fixing a lot of js pages recently. Should User:Equazcion/CatListMainTalkLinks.js also be updated? (I use it globally) Thanks. kennethaw88 • talk 04:58, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

@Kennethaw88:. Sorry, i had missed this in the total explosion that is my notification center atm :) The script you refer to does not seem to be affected by any of the recent removals. I do question if it works on non english wiki's however, because it was never written to take into account the translated namespaces on other wiki's. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:10, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Patch on the way

This is being fixed soon. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 07:04, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Plea for help

Hi TheDJ. Wiser minds than mine suggest that you may be able to help out with the script issues I'm currently having (particularly with Twinkle). AFAIK, my only extant script pages are User:Yunshui/vector.js, User:Yunshui/common.css and (for some reason) User:Yunshui/monobook.js. I've booted those scripts that (after checking the console) seem to be be buggered, but Twinkle's still AWOL... If you have the time, I'd be very grateful if you could take a look and help me figure out what's causing its truculence. Much obliged, Yunshui ^雲 _水 14:39, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Any better after these changes ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

I hadn't realised my scripts page was such a mess... TheDJ, you're an absolute hero; Twinkle is now behaving itself and I'm as happy as the proverbial clam. Very much obliged; many thanks! Yunshui ^雲 _水 07:40, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Another js incompetent needs help

You were recently kind enough to clean up my monobook.js page following the old script-pocalypse. Would you mind also taking a look at my Wiktionary js at en:Wiktionary:User:Spinningspark/monobook.js? The particular problem I am having is that the new entry creator script (en:Wiktionary:User:Yair rand/newentrywiz.js) will now only work if I first remove my personal js. SpinningSpark 21:20, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

@Spinningspark: Try this. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:07, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks muchly, that seems to have fixed everything. SpinningSpark 13:44, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	"Print Options are a godsend" - JoshuaRants (talk) 16:15, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-userMessages.js on MW wiki

Hi there. Is mw:MediaWiki:Gadget-userMessages.js one of the unfortunate casualties of Flow on the MW wiki? I just spent far too long wrestling with that dysfunctional disaster of a messaging system, after a simple vandalism revert over there, to drop a {{Vandalism}} on the perpetrator. I ended up doing it manually while cursing Flow (which seems unable to even handle a simple subst in source mode). I'm certainly not blaming you for the script failing, just frustrated with Flow and curious if I failed to spot a painless way to do it. If it doesn't work with flow, it might be worth updating the gadget description to save confusion and frustration. Thanks. Murph9000 (talk) 10:08, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Most gadgets are just the victim of pure neglect. Too many people writing crappy things, too few people maintaining it. I tested the gadget, half of the time it doesn't even work on non-Flow pages either. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:54, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Many thanks for fixing the reftoolbar. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:45, 1 June 2017 (UTC)