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Speedy deletion: Amplus Solar

I am reasearching on the topic of Solar energy and solar panel in India. The company proves to be a prominent one in this field in India. I couldn't find a wiki page for the same so decided to make one. I don't want to promote the company or anything, just some basic information about it. I am writing some fresh and unique content for the same so that I can edit the article. Shall I edit the article there itself or shall I write a new one as suggested by you through the WP:afc process. Anshikaa003 (talk) 11:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

I am trying to update the page named "Omex Courier & Logistics Ltd" and also trying to specify the things that are needed to be excluded from deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irfan24562456 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hlw,

I have edited the page "Omex Courier & Logistics Ltd". Please have a look and let me know if some changes are needed.

Meanwhile I am preparing some other edits for this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irfan24562456 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

It has been tagged for speedy deletion already, I'm afraid that the company does not appear to be notable in Wikipedia terms. I would suggest using the WP:AFC process to create an article. Wikipedia doesn't host company profiles. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent, reliable sources say about a topic. You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread in-depth coverage of the organisation in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 13:15, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

NEVER AGAIN

I'LL NEVER AGAIN...EDIT...IF YOU DO 'NOT' LIKE THE WAY I TYPE / EXPRESS...THEN SO-BE-IT...I'LL BE TELLING FRIENDS & LOVE ONES NEVER TO TRUST YOU...WASTE-OF-TIME...DON'T MEET Your APPROVAL...WASN'T SEEKING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE...

JUST-A-SIMPLE-MAN FRIEND-TO-"ALL"

REG SR. 200017 CALGARY, ALBERTA CANADA

P.S. NEVER [AGAIN ] — Preceding unsigned comment added by JUST-A-SIMPLE-MAN (talk • contribs) 15:53, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

As I politely explained on your talk page your edit appeared to be a test edit namely ...'First...It must be "Under-Stood" right from the word [GO]...It takes a "Born-Again" Person to conclude with a reasonable summation of an intense 'Observation'...When 'All' has been [Considered]...Why...? Because that Person has 'God-Holy-Spirit' living within Them..' It didn't appear to have any relevance to the article Biblical archaeology All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 16:02, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Would you take a look and see if I have improved my referencing formatting and adding additional references on my draft: Draft:Violeta_Autumn Please be patient, I am still learning, this is my first article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sausalitoarchitect (talk • contribs) 18:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

You appear to have requested deletion or blanked the page? Theroadislong (talk) 09:01, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Http en.wikipedia.org w index.php search gazi paita. Since you had some involvement with the Http en.wikipedia.org w index.php search gazi paita redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:31, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Robert Sungenis

Please discuss on talk page.Joe6Pack (talk) 17:19, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Discuss what? YOU are the one fresh out of a 31 hour bloc, it is you who needs consensus for your edits. Theroadislong (talk) 17:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

17:32:58, 13 February 2017 review of submission by YellowJasmineGal



I need your help. Please let me know which sections / paragraphs do not need to be improved and that are already OK, thanks. "Toyota Motorhomes" page YellowJasmineGal (talk) 17:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm afraid that none of the content you have added is acceptable it is unreferenced and inappropriate in tone, Forums and Facebook are not reliable sources either. Theroadislong (talk) 17:41, 13 February 2017 (UTC)


Thank you for clarifying. Please instruct me where and how in the Wiki format this type of useful information is appropriate to post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowJasmineGal (talk • contribs) 18:15, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

The content would be more suited to a blog or Facebook page. Wikipedia articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). Theroadislong (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Where is the message you sent me ?

Where is the message you sent me ? Yours faithfully Charles DobsonCD0060576 (talk) 15:07, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

You need to click on one of the blue links in the message, they both point to the draft article Draft:Junior Bandsman Wing Fulwood Barracks 1961-63. Theroadislong (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Not clear as to what your saying - is this article closed

Not clear what you a saying - is this article closed ?, If so please remove from Wikipedia Yours faithfully Charles DobsonCD0060576 (talk) 15:17, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by closed? You have a response at the Teahouse which explains the situation more fully. Theroadislong (talk) 15:20, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

"Lancastrian Brigade Junior Bandsmen (Period 1961-63)"

The article is about the Junior Bandsmen of the Lancastrian Brigade period 1961-63 Best Regards Charles DobsonCD0060576 (talk) 15:35, 14 February 2017 (UTC) 

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CD0060576 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Abbe Hassan page, I have added some references. I´m new here so I dont know how to add stuff.

Thenetman (talk) 09:53, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

20:13:12, 15 February 2017 review of submission by Rgschroeder12


It is true that the article, Operations Management, mentions Service Operations in one paragraph among the many pages of text. That article starts with, "Operations management is an area of management concerned with designing and controlling the process of production and redesigning business operations in the production of goods or services." While the production of services is in the definition the rest of the long article, except for one paragraph, deals entirely with manufacturing history, explanations, practices, examples and citations. Given that developed economies produce more services than manufactured goods by a large margin, it's unfortunate that operations management of services is not given more attention in that article.

The reason I wrote a separate article on Operations Management for Services is that the content would be way too long if it were added to the existing article dealing with manufacturing. I received the advice from a Wikipedia editor to write a separate article to give service operations appropriate consideration and not make the current article too long. This does not deny the importance of manufacturing in developed economies, I am just dealing with a glaring omission. Since the 1950s there has been a very large literature in textbooks and research on Operations Management for Services as referenced in my article. Certainly, Operations Management for Services deserves as much attention in Wikipedia as manufacturing.

I hope that you will reconsider, or pass the review to another reviewer, given the advice I received to write a separate article on Operations Management for Services and the length needed to address services. Thank you for your time.Rgschroeder12 (talk) 20:13, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok, feel free to resubmit and let someone else look at it. Theroadislong (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

David Garrity

Hi, just wondering what about the David Garrity photo had questionable copyright? I went through wiki commons help to get it uploaded and they saw no issue -- please let me know, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starshine60 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

According to the photographs page "A Public Domain Mark (PDM) here on flickr is incompatible with Common's licensing policies. The copyright owner retains full control over this image and does not give away any rights." 16:28, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

criteria for speedy deletion in the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insomnia_(festival)

Thanks for reviewing the article. The article is regarding the Cultural festival of an educational Institution. Will request you to reconsider the article and remove that speedy deletion tag. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitsingh7878 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I updated the link to the source in question. It seems to be pointing to the correct location now. Also, is there any way for me to obtain a non-copyrighted photo of the person to add to my article? Thanks for the guidance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emm5909 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Citation

If you go to the source document and click read full background, the last sentence says Dr. Milligan received his BA from Ohio Wesleyan University, his PhD in biochemistry from the University of Illinois. http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=2010644&privcapId=29002 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emm5909 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

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19:51:32, 20 February 2017 review of submission by Starshine60


Hi, I am trying to understand why this didn't make it through - the sources were from reputable places - he is regularly on TV -- what can I do to improve?

He is the CEO of a non notable firm. You say that he regularly features on CNBC, Business News Network, and Bloomberg Radio but there are no sources for these claims. Being the nephew of Wendell Arthur Garrity Jr. has no bearing on his notability. Articles require significant indepth coverage of the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). Theroadislong (talk) 20:08, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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Primary sources in a person's page

Hi. You attached that template to the "Shay Kutten" page. Looking at pages other living professors, the references used there are very similar (home pages, conferences home pages). Those are not marked with this template. Do you see a difference here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menegedme (talk • contribs) 16:01, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

is this really unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company ???

is this really unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company ??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecysound_Systems This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... It contains only factual information and quotes of interest to researchers of the company, its history and productsLuminous Industries Australia (talk) 22:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes it is. Kleuske (talk) 22:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

New Mexico page editing

I just found out the saddest thing. The lady who asked me to write that article has had an account since 2008. That is a travesty. We are seriously failing at communicating how to get help. She has even tried once to create an article. I'm just glad it was the government that foot the bill—አቤል ዳዊት?(Janweh64) (talk) 00:25, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

ADVFN additions

Hi there, Is there a way of mentioning this product that wouldn't be deemed as advertising? It's an advancement for retail investors enabling them to find out in real-time what's happening with their specific portfolio of stocks in a format previously unavailable.

Thanks in advance.

Fran Francescad (talk) 11:47, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Stanley Leopold Fowler

Hello Theroadislong

Can you please explain why the article Stanley Leopold Fowler is for deletion yet again. As I explained initially, most documents or links for this article date from 1970's and it is very difficult or impossible to have them on the internet purely due to the era. The remarkable Elizabethan Village stands as a testimony to Stanley Leopold Fowler, founder, builder and visionary, of the Elizabethan Village. There is a thread onwiki and there are photos of articles written in newspapers of the time, unfortunately they need permission which again is impossible to obtain as the writers are possibly deceased. There are tourist reviews that are referenced citing Leo Fowler as the founder of the Elizabethan Village. The picture of the plaque officially recognising the Elizabethan Village as a historic cite and cannot be included until the consent of the City of Armadale arrives. Is his notability in dispute? or photographs that belong to Sally-ANN Fowler who gave permission for them to be used?

Please enlighten with truth and honesty Thewayweis (talk) 12:31, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of Stanley Leopold Fowler in reliable sources, if there are no sources then sadly we cannot have an article on Wikipedia. Yours sources such as they are seem to refer to rthe buldings and not him? Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and has essentially no interest in what anybody or any organisation says or wants to say about themselves on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 12:37, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Stanley Leopold Fowler

Could you please clarify what you meant by this....Fails WP:GNG a coatrack article for his replica property empire. Theroadislong (talk) 12:10, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

empire?

Thank you for the response in advance

Warm wishes

Thewayweis (talk) 12:51, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong

I have just discovered that Fails WP:GNG is linked to Notability. Just to clarify the policy states: 

Any biography[edit source]

Shortcut: WP:ANYBIO The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times. The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.[8] The person has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography or similar publication.

I hope the following information is useful to you for your discussion:

Stanley Leopold Fowler won the prestigious Sir David Brand Award for Tourism The Elizabethan Village was opened to the public in 1977 by Sir Charles Court It is recognized as a historic site in 2009 The original Blueprints are archived at the Shakepeare's Birthplace Trust in Stratford-upon-Avon The Shakespeare Function Center has been changed into Leo Fowler's Function Center to acknowledge and commemorate

As I have mentioned most of the articles are from the 70's as support and validation and they have been uploaded to wiki through a thread with Alessio Rutveno who is aware that most of the support has to have permission from the author's and unfortunately some might have deceased.

This article was proposed for deletion before and after communicating with other wiki contributors it was took off. It is sad that I have to go through this same process again possibly, as I understand it, of one individual.

If I am incorrect in this please accept my humble apologies but looking at it mathematically this seems to be the sum.

Sarah Warner gives a review citing the Elizabethan Village and Leo Fowler. Please enlighten.

Warm Wishes Thewayweis (talk) 13:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Sir David Brand award is not a notable award in Wikipedia terms, The Elizabethan Village may possibly be notable, I don't know, but the article is about Stanley Leopold Fowler not the village. The article was prodded before, but as there are no reliable sources I have taken it WP:afd where other editors will discuss whether it has a place in the encyclopedia or not. We need sources that show there is widespread coverage of him in reliable sources, newspaper or magazine articles would be fine, they don't have to be online but they do need to be verifiable. Theroadislong (talk) 13:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Creating a new page for Matteo Margaroli

Hi, I wonder if you could help me with the creation of the page "Matteo Margaroli" that has been declined.

thank you

marco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ventique (talk • contribs) 14:23, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

There are not enough sources to confirm notabilty. You need to establish notability by adding references to independent sources that show there is widespread coverage of him in reliable sources. I can find no in-depth coverage of him anywhere.Theroadislong (talk) 14:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


thank you, I have found information on magazines but not much online. Shall I scan it and upload them? and if so, how many?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ventique (talk • contribs) 15:11, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

No need to scan them just input the title of the magazine, publisher and date so that the info can be verified by others see WP:REFSTART for help with references. Theroadislong (talk) 15:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Stanley Leopold Fowler

I thank you for your response and the COI you have raised but there is no COI...I don't work for anyone linked to Stanley Leopold Fowler. I asked for permission from his daughter Sally-ann Fowler to write about this extraordinary man, her father, and his achievements that are remarkable and notable. I have seen the blueprints archived in Stratford-upon-Avon, yet there was nothing online to acknowledge his work that stands in Armadale, officially a historic site. What I am truly baffled with is that the article itself has been butchered without giving me time or guidance to rectify or defend the stance, leaving the article incomplete and incoherent, for example, leaving a heading "Anne Hathaway's Cottage" and removing the picture or anything about the cottage. Why bother doing that? It is like someone living in cornwall, writing about all things cornish ...is that a COI?

All the facts I mentioned are true and supported by newspaper articles from the 70's which was long before the internet! I have had this same situation from the onset and after discussion it was redeemed. Do I have to go through this every time someone decides to question Leo's notability or the sources or even disagrees with his existence ? Or is once enough? The strangest and disturbing thing is that the proposed for deletion note came on today 24.02.2017 stating it's for discussion, yet most of the article has been deleted even before discussion has taken place, unless the discussion and decision is only on for a couple of hours?

Through this process I have tried, and amended all the necessary suggestions from helpful people in wikipedia, although I am new to this. The life of Stanley Leopold Fowler was an inspiration for me to join wikipedia and hopefully, as a platform, bring this remarkable man to the world. Seeing all the research I have done deleted, butchered and left incoherent and incomplete is devastating! I relish and welcome positive and constructive guidance from wikipedia contributors , who have been editing for possibly years, but when your work is simply deleted without time to correct and learn, frankly isn't in line with community spirit especially when only a couple of hours have lapsed from the note appearing and article mainly deleted.

Thewayweis (talk) 15:23, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

We don't require permission from people to write articles here, articles are only written using what the independent sources have published about subjects. My assumption of a conflict of interest was because you had uploaded photographs belonging to his daughter. If the facts are supported by newspapers then all we need are the titles, dates, page numbers and publisher details so that they can be verified. Theroadislong (talk) 15:32, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
(eavesdropping) I think it needs to be underscored that a lot of the content that was removed was of the family scrapbook variety; not only unsourced, but inappropriate for this venue and grandiloquent in tone. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I chuckled

I said, 'It wasn't him'- and you said, 'It was him'! Classic :) O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 15:57, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Stanley Leopold Fowler

Thank you again for your input but I have stated previously and will again that the sources are from articles written in 1970's therefore, again, long before the internet. There is a thread on wikipedia regarding this supported by images of the afore said articles. Obviously, no one after the era of the beginning of the internet has written about Leo Fowler. His daughter has provided a lot of evidence supported by images and documented footage. The fact that there is no weblink or published sources shouldn't diminish the fact that there is a true and accurate account of this man. Thewayweis (talk) 15:53, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I know it may seem strange but Wikipedia is not concerned with facts, only with what reliable sources have reported about a subject. If there are no reliable sources then Wikipedia cannot have an article about him I'm afraid. You mentioned newspapers before though...these would be excellent references and all we need are the names, dates and publisher details to create a reference. Theroadislong (talk) 16:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

The Adams Company article - Please help me to get this accepted - The Adams Company has been in business for over 100 years so there are lots of antique items that people are interested in plus we are an American manufacturer that supply many industries

Please help me to get my article to standard so it can be published. Thank you. TACDBQ (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a clear case for this as an independent article, but there is scope for a section at Adams-Farwell. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Mark M. Whelan FRSA

I request you consider reinstating this page. The aforementioned person is not only a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, endorsed by the British Ambassador, a fiver star author, followed by the Foreign Office and UKTI SF and NY and has a significant social media following (11.4 K on twitter), he is also listed as the significant contributor to the Conservatives Abroad group, therefore this person is a person of significant interest, not to mention the citations from the Guardian media group. Deleting this page, and yet championing pottery (a topic that interests you clearly), is not only clear decision bias, its a form of passive aggressive bullying. I request you reconsider please.

I am not an admin so cannot reinstate the page for you, it was deleted by User talk:RHaworth I suggest you use the WP:AFC process for article creation which is safer from deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 07:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

If the FRSA does not make someone notable, this should therefore be applied to everyone, as you assert that the FRSA is not a creditable institution, those that are awarded the fellowship , using your logic, the whole fellowship should be deleted from wikipedia along with mentions to the alumni Benjamin Franklin, Stephen Hawkings etc. If it applies to one person, it therefore should apply to everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vizulux (talk • contribs) 16:07, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

As I commented on your draft being a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts does not necessarily make him notable in Wikipedia terms on it's own, members can apply and a subscription is charged and when it's one of the only claims to notability it's bit thin. I didn't say it wasn't a creditable institution, I'm just not sure that being a member confers enough notability to warrant an article about somebody. Theroadislong (talk) 16:15, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the thank you and I really have no clue how to send a smile soo hear it goes :))))) Thewayweis (talk) 19:28, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

How is criticism considered to be vandalism?

Many Wikipedia topics have a criticism section. Why is the topic of biological homology not allowed to have a criticism section?

You have stated that the article in the criticism section has information that is incorrect. Identify the incorrect information and state how and why you believe it is incorrect.

Completely deleting the criticism section of any topic is a violation of free speech and shows the fragility of the topic being criticized.

Thank you for keeping Wikipedia a platform where all voices can be heard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamJamesHerath (talk • contribs) 20:08, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

You are using Wikipedia too promote your book which is questioning the scientific validity of evolution. Please stop. Theroadislong (talk) 22:50, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Ricky Rebel Draft Edits

I have been editing the Ricky Rebel draft and just received your feedback on the article. Thank you for pointing out what needs to be changed.

I saw your comment about sources that are not credible. Are there other sources in addition to youtube and IMDB that you would not consider credible? Any other feedback is greatly appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickLockwood9887 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Other unreliable sources include Allmusic, Wikipedia, Discogs, press releases and blogs. Theroadislong (talk) 19:59, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

14:47:10, 27 February 2017 review of submission by Avh1234


Hi, would like to know what is wrong with my entry and what else I can do to get this accepted. Thanks much

It reads rather like a short CV at the moment, Wikipedia requires significant widespread coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Also if you are the subject you should read WP:COI Theroadislong (talk) 16:06, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Query on Draft James Acraman

Hi Theroadislong,

Many thanks for your comment- I just wanted to check my understanding of what you wrote. If I were to remove all the external links, won't that diminish the authority/verifiability of the article as each point raised has got a link to establish the proof of what has been written ? If I had the same article with nothing to back up the facts I would expect a moderator to write back saying "please provide external prove to your claims".

Secondly, your alternative suggestion was to change them to references (this is where my ignorance will show so advance apologies!) but as they appear under "References" I don't understand how you want this different ?

Many thanks RogerAcr (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

You already have many correctly formatted references but you also have 4 external links in the body of the article for example here "In 2013 James qualified again as a member for Team GB traveling to Florida, USA for the World Championships where he won another Championship medal" The external link needs to be converted to a reference. You should also read WP:COI. Theroadislong (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Draft: Jad Bou Karam page

Please note the references were upated using more reliable sources. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.98.147.66 (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

@Theroadislong please note the edits were performed as per your review. Would appreciate you reviewing it again 212.98.147.66 (talk) 10:08, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for reviewing my article on Computer Services, Inc. I'm going to try the live chat for additional help. I love editing Wikipedia articles, but this is the first one I've tried to publish on my own, so I'm a bit new.

Thanks again for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldstein63 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Your recent message re. Tewkesbury Museum

Hi,

My name Craig Fletcher (webtewkesburymuseum).

I'm a Trustee of the Tewkesbury Museum and its webmaster.

Regards,

Craig

Webtewkesburymuseum (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

You need to put this on your user page to declare your conflict of interest you can request edits to the article on the article talk page, but you are not advised to edit the article yourself. Theroadislong (talk) 17:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Re proposed article on Tony Triggs by Pacific 231 (recently reviewed by you)

Dear Sir or Madam

I have amended my article on Tony D Triggs in the light of your advice.

Those items in the references that were authored by him I have taken out and a new independent item inserted.

Where Triggs's own publications are referred-to in the body of the article to illuminate his thought I have expanded the in-line referencing so that readers can check them if they wish.

Was this broadly the right response to your concerns?

231Pacific (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

from Ducati-2007

Thanks :)

Mario — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ducati-2007 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Linda Lloyd Jones

I was not aware there was any copy righted content in my article on Linda Lloyd Jones, Head of Exhibitions and Loans at the Victoria and Albert Musuem. The content was written by me.

There is one quote, which was cited:

Art Fund director and chair of the judges, said: "The V&A experience is an unforgettable one. Its recent exhibitions, from Alexander McQueen to The Fabric of India, and the opening of its new Europe 1600–1815 galleries, were all exceptional accomplishments—at once entertaining and challenging, rooted in contemporary scholarship, and designed to reach and affect the lives of a large and diverse national audience. It was already one of the best-loved museums in the country: this year it has indisputably become one of the best museums in the world.

2015 saw a remarkable transformation for the V&A. It attracted nearly 3.9 million visitors to its sites, 14.5 million visitors online and 90,000 V&A members, the highest in the museum’s 164-year history. December 2015 saw the Europe 1600–1815 galleries opening to great acclaim. 2015 also heralded one of their most popular exhibition programs. Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty became the V&A’s most visited exhibition, attracting a record breaking 493,043 visitors from 87 countries, while the India Festival of exhibitions engaged visitors in the rich and varied culture of South Asia."[2]

Why did you remove the second paragraph that contained the citation? It is critical to substantiate the value of the V&A Museum Exhibitions, which has been led by Linda Lloyd Jones for over 30 years.

Perhaps would it have been clearer if I stated it as follows:

Art Fund director and chair of the judges, said: "The V&A experience is an unforgettable one. Its recent exhibitions, from Alexander McQueen to The Fabric of India, and the opening of its new Europe 1600–1815 galleries, were all exceptional accomplishments—at once entertaining and challenging, rooted in contemporary scholarship, and designed to reach and affect the lives of a large and diverse national audience. It was already one of the best-loved museums in the country: this year it has indisputably become one of the best museums in the world. 2015 saw a remarkable transformation for the V&A. It attracted nearly 3.9 million visitors to its sites, 14.5 million visitors online and 90,000 V&A members, the highest in the museum’s 164-year history. December 2015 saw the Europe 1600–1815 galleries opening to great acclaim. 2015 also heralded one of their most popular exhibition programs. Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty became the V&A’s most visited exhibition, attracting a record breaking 493,043 visitors from 87 countries, while the India Festival of exhibitions engaged visitors in the rich and varied culture of South Asia."[2]


Wednesday 0008 (talk) 21:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The content I removed was here [1] You added FAR more than a quote! Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. Theroadislong (talk) 22:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia uses quotes VERY sparingly we don't copy huge chunks of text and then cite the source, we write the content in our own words. Theroadislong (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

I honestly do not understand. Citation 1 is simply a link to the Art Funds website section Meet the Director. Since Deutscher does not have a Wikipedia page, I thought it would be a good way to introduce him. The second paragraph of citation 2, his quote on the value of Exhibitions at the V& A seem to be what was deleted.

Wednesday 0008 (talk) 22:16, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The content that begins "2015 saw a remarkable transformation for the V&A." was copied and pasted from here [2] Theroadislong (talk) 22:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Precisely, and that is where my original citation 2 directed the reader. Wednesday 0008 (talk) 22:51, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Actually the quote begins in the previous paragraph: "The V&A experience is an unforgettable one. Its recent exhibitions, from Alexander McQueen to The Fabric of India, and the opening of its new Europe 1600–1815 galleries, were all exceptional accomplishments—at once entertaining and challenging, rooted in contemporary scholarship, and designed to reach and affect the lives of a large and diverse national audience. It was already one of the best-loved museums in the country: this year it has indisputably become one of the best museums in the world.

2015 saw a remarkable transformation for the V&A. It attracted nearly 3.9 million visitors to its sites, 14.5 million visitors online and 90,000 V&A members, the highest in the museum’s 164-year history. December 2015 saw the Europe 1600–1815 galleries opening to great acclaim. 2015 also heralded one of their most popular exhibition programs. Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty became the V&A’s most visited exhibition, attracting a record breaking 493,043 visitors from 87 countries, while the India Festival of exhibitions engaged visitors in the rich and varied culture of South Asia."[2]Wednesday 0008 (talk) 22:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes you confirm that it it is all copied and pasted which is a copyright violation! Theroadislong (talk) 06:59, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Are you telling me that one can not provide a direct quote with a proper citation to its source in Wikipedia?Wednesday 0008 (talk) 22:27, 1 March 2017 (UTC) Not of that enormous length NO. It was not a direct quote of what a person said it was just a copy and paste of a part of an article. Have you read the copyright advice on your talk page? Theroadislong (talk) 22:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Do you agree that the statement below is a direct quote?

Stephen Deuchar, Art Fund director and chair of the judges, said: ‘The V&A experience is an unforgettable one. Its recent exhibitions, from Alexander McQueen to The Fabric of India, and the opening of its new Europe 1600–1815 galleries, were all exceptional accomplishments – at once entertaining and challenging, rooted in contemporary scholarship, and designed to reach and affect the lives of a large and diverse national audience. It was already one of the best-loved museums in the country: this year it has indisputably become one of the best museums in the world.'

Wednesday 0008 (talk) 22:44, 1 March 2017 (UTC) I agree this is a direct quote, yes. Wikipedia doesn't work like that though, we summarise what the the reliable sources say in our own words. The draft article is also about Linda Lloyd Jones not the V&A. Theroadislong (talk) 07:48, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for my first Barnstar!

Thank you for awarding me my first Barnstar for the Jess Thom page! Very flattered and hope there's many more pages and barnstars to come!JTdisabilityartsonline (talk) 21:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Stanford University

I just noticed that your last comment on the Stanford Talk page misspelled Stanford ("m" instead of "n"), and thought you might want to fix it. Contributor321 (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Paul Joseph Watson

I believe your assessment of Draft:Paul Joseph Watson was in error. There is plenty of coverage sourced from reliable sources, as well as in-depth coverage in many of those sources. Both of your points were completely invalid.  InsertCleverPhraseHere  22:59, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

More generally, please try not to bite new users at AfC. While I myself am not a new user, if I was I would be quite baffled and discouraged by your review. Simply being a stub is no reason to refuse an article during review and AfC is not a place where well-sourced stubs go to die. In the future, I suggest actually checking the sources before saying that the article is "poorly sourced, no in depth coverage." If you had actually read the article and looked through the sources, and especially at the changes that were made since previous reviews, you would not have arrived at this conclusion. So please, a little more diligence in the future.  InsertCleverPhraseHere  10:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Please review the edits to draft: jad bou karam

Dear. Edits were made as per your comments. please review the draft. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.98.147.66 (talk) 13:29, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Offical wikipedia account

Hi I'm working at İstanbul Sabahattin Zaim University international office I would like to Update our wikipedia page but my previous account and my work has been deleted because of Copyrights. I wanted to know how we can make our university a wikipedia account and how to prove the photos that we publish is ours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.183.200.251 (talk) 11:10, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

IPs at that AfD

One of them removed maintenance templates from two promotional articles. Doug Weller talk 20:18, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Content

Hello Theroadislong, The article about Marek Napiorkowski relies on official information about artist and includes verified and public references. The bio doesn't contain promoting or inappropriate content, each indention has evidenced sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marta Sołtys (talk • contribs) 20:34, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia has very little interest in what "official" sources say about a subject. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent, reliable sources say about a topic. You should not be editing the article as you have a clear conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Request on 21:25:21, 7 March 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Lynn McGee



Lynn McGee (talk) 21:25, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


Thank you for reviewing my submission on the contemporary American poet Gerry LaFemina. It has been rejected now three times. I am trying to understand why Mr. LaFemina doesn't meet the notability criteria. His sources are not connected to him, and he does not self-publish. His awards and honors are national in scope. His books of poetry and literary criticism have been published by respected university presses and well known literary presses. I also thought I had converted the external links to citations. Did I not? I apologize for my error and will review the definition of "citation." Also, I have reviewed the existing Wiki pages for a number of contemporary poets and time and again find that they are less published, that their awards and honors are much smaller, and so on. I know that the editors are extremely busy, but I am hoping for some guidance on this entry or perhaps a re-consideration of its rejection. Sincerely, Lynn McGee Lynn McGee (talk) 21:25, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The sources you have provided confirm that he has indeed written things, but Wikipedia requires significant in depth coverage about him in reliable sources none of the sources as far as I can see discuss him at all, you need reviews or articles about him. Are the awards he has received notable? Do the awards have Wikipedia articles? You have a vast number of external links in the body of the article which need to be removed or converted to citations please see Wikipedia:Citing sources for help. Theroadislong (talk) 21:41, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Adam Leitman Bailey

Thanks for your help there. If you've got any opinion on the underlying issue - that is, the propriety of including details of allegations from a lawsuit filed less than a week ago - I'd appreciate your adding it to the Talk page discussion. I think I'm right that these details should be left out (certainly, until the thing takes clearer form, and maybe receives more coverage) but I could be wrong, and I think the discussion would benefit from the views of another experienced, and non-SPA editor. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 16:16, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Please quote your scientific "evidence"

I see you didn't agree with me changing "evidence" to "theory". I'm curious to hear about this so-called "evidence"...

Don't they call it the "Theory of Evolution"? That's what we're talking about here - evolution. It has never been considered "fact" no matter how hard you want it to be. So, please spare me your "evidence" objection!


64.85.176.216 (talk) 16:47, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

The age of the earth is not a theory? It is a scientific fact deduced from the available evidence. Theroadislong (talk) 18:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

COI removal logic

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKFast page has remained unedited for months now - I can only assume that this is a reflection of the fact that there is no content on this page which should be removed.

I want to avoid an editing war and plainly conclude with you that ...

A. If the content is fair then we agree to remove the COI message or B. You remove the content which you consider still justifies the COI message

Logically I can't see an option C, can you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.Hardaker (talk • contribs) 09:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Theroadislong (talk) 09:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Bird Conservancy of the Rockies

Hello.

I am a little confused about the reason for rejecting the article about Bird Conservancy of the Rockies.

I have provided multiple external sources in the form of historical newspaper articles which document various aspects of our organization's work and history. We do not have relationships with those publications outside of the usual engagement one might expect between journalists/news media and news subjects.

The Conflict of Interest statement suggests that someone else -- not affiliated with our organization? -- needs to be creating the article and editing the content listed? How does that work?

Meanwhile, our organization changed names in 2015 and continues to be listed incorrectly as Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory in Wikipedia. My main goal in creating the new article was to provide a more accurate status of the organization, which is not currently reflected.

Thank you for you help!

Best,

William Bevil Communications Manager Bird Conservancy of the Rockies Phone: (970)482-1707 www.birdconservancy.org

Connect with us on Facebook and Twitter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcrcomms (talk • contribs) 21:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

When I rejected it there were no independent sources. You are creating an article about a subject that we already have an article on here Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory. If the organisation has indeed changed it's name them the article title can be changed. Theroadislong (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I have moved the article to Bird Conservancy of the Rockies. Theroadislong (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

14:16:53, 10 March 2017 review of submission by BMacmillan


Not requesting a re-review: requesting clarification of terms.

I understand the quantity of sources provided may be a problem and I am looking for more. However your rejection message suggested that the independence and verifiability of the sources I provided were also problematic (these two words were emphasized in your message). The sources I provided were all independent of the subject of the page and of myself, and all the links to the sources worked so that they could be verified. This seems to me to satisfy the independence and verifiability criteria. So before I go hunting for more sources, I need to know more exactly how the ones I provided failed to satisfy those criteria. Can you please let me know how they fell short? Or is the number of sources the only problem?

Other than the first source of course - the one I couldn't find a link for. I understand why that's a problem. I will try again to find some backup for it, as "the greatest poetry debut from the past 25 years" to me certainly sounds more than notable enough for inclusion, especially as it comes from an independent and verifiable reviewer who has his own Wikipedia page.

Thanks.

BMacmillan (talk) 14:16, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@BMacmillan: I think we need a bit more in depth coverage from somewhere more major, he has had one book published so far and the Hamilton Arts Council Award doesn't appear to be notable in Wikipedia terms. It may be a case of TOOSOON. Sentences like "Di Saverio has also developed a considerable reputation for a unique, emotive reading style." are not neutral and require strong supporting references. See WP:GNG for what is required notability wise. Please also note that blogs are not usually considered reliable sources and we don't use external links in the body of an article. You have started editing on Wikipedia with the most difficult of things "creating and article". [User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] (talk) 14:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Blue Zone

Hello Theroadislong,

Thank you for letting me know that ™ is not used on wikipedia.

I am new to editing the site but after reading the Blue Zones books and following up for more research online I found the wikipedia page to be lacking and had some confusing information so it was my goal to clarify.

I was curious if you had thoughts about displaying Blue Zones as a trademark of Blue Zones, LLC. If you followed my citation it showed the term is trademarked but is this necessary on the site or should it be put in a "notes" section, if at all?

Would appreciate your guidance.

Thanks JvDynasty21 (talk) 22:32, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your response to my plea for my request for a page for Ella Thorp Ellis

I realized after I proposed a new page for Ella Thorp Ellis that is was mostly about her father and not so much about her. Unfortunately, her father also is not in Wikepedia, so I can't use him as him as a reliable source. I was and am concentrating on NOTABILITY and concentrating on "name dropping" in order to get her in Wikipedia. Believe me, if I can get her on Wikipedia, there will be hundreds of people who will be glad to use her page on Wikipedia as a reference, especially the Oceano Historical Society.

I would like to put all 10 of her books on her page, but don't want to be seen as "pandering."

I don't want to be seen as a shill for her. I do not have any personal interests in hoping to gain from profits from her books.

If you have any advice about getting Ella Thorp Ellis on Wikipedia permanetly, please let me know.

I would also like to edit Gavin Arthur's page. I have information about his "cause of death" which is not on his Wikipedia page.

Donald Miller — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flerkk (talk • contribs) 17:05, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Disposable email addresses edit -- spam?

Hi,

this is Gerold. You revented one of my comments in the history of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_email_address

How should I insert the link (at least for the github repo https://github.com/GeroldSetz/Mailinator-Domains) without being reted as spam?

Would be great to get a note on that.

Kind regards,

Gerold — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzekocke (talk • contribs) 19:09, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

I can't really see any way to introduce the link...it just looks like spam. What is your reasoning for adding it? Theroadislong (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Sapphire the Dragon.

I'm the author. Those are my words and I have the rights to them. I think this was a little enthusiastic on the part of wikipedia. Sapphire the Dragon (talk) 16:19, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

It's unfortunately common for new or inexperienced editors to become frustrated when content they have copied from websites they own (or work for) is removed or articles tagged for speedy deletion. Unless the content is verifiably compatibly licensed or public domain, however, Wikipedia can't retain it. Wikipedia takes copyright violations VERY seriously, please see WP:MYTEXT for more info on this. Theroadislong (talk) 16:39, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding NOTABILITY. How do you decide this? Is this subjective or objective?

If you are going to discard my page because you feel that that the person is not notable enough, I should give up and go away. I have other things to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flerkk (talk • contribs) 18:47, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

I am not discarding your page? Notability is entirely objective. You can read up on what we require for notability here WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Re FAT

Hi ! You sent me a 'conflict of interest ' re FAT fashion architecture taste ...I'm not sure why? All have added are facts regarding FATs history I was a founding member of FAT and have no conflict of interest at all. I have fairly documented the history from a factual point of view and I intend to continue to do this. Any of the other former members will be able to verify what I have written. Can you identify who you are to challenge these facts please? I'm prepared to go legal over any untruths written in FATs history. Thankyou!! Emmasomersetdavis (talk) 20:46, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:No legal threats. Theroadislong (talk) 20:54, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
More suggested reading material: WP:Autobiography and WP:Verifiability. Kleuske (talk) 21:00, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice.

Like the title says. I look forward to engaging with wikepedia more. Thanks again for your helpful advice. Sapphire the Dragon (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

SPI

Hi - I've reformatted the SPI you made here. In the future please use the "How to open an investigation" element of the SPI page or consider reporting via Twinkle (which will take care of the difficult stuff for you!). Thanks for the report and happy editing -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 11:04, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you I'm not sure how I got that wrong? I thought I'd used Twinkle but could be mistaken. cheers Theroadislong (talk) 13:26, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Moving draft to article

Hello Theroadislong, I was wondering if you might be able to share how I can start the process to get my draft published as an article (it's still in draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Edgardo_Miranda-Rodriguez)? I've been trying to read up, and I guess I'm confused. I'd appreciate any guidance. Best, Theresa at Indevelopmeant (talk) 15:57, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

I have submitted it in your name for you, I'm not actually sure how you could have done it, I'll have to read up. Theroadislong (talk) 16:12, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Theroadislong! I figured only Admins (or editors?) could do that. I just didn't know how to formally request that my draft be accepted. Thank you again for following up so quickly! Best, Theresa at Indevelopmeant (talk) 17:05, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the page "Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs"

This page states "The beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses are based on the Bible teachings of Charles Taze Russell". There is no citation for this statement.

However, according to the official page of Jehovah's Witnesses they say "As Jehovah’s Witnesses, we strive to adhere to the form of Christianity that Jesus taught and that his apostles practiced. This article summarizes our basic beliefs" https://www.jw.org/finder?docid=502015242&wtlocale=E&srcid=share — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExpressiveFibe (talk • contribs) 15:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

there is a citation in he body of the article the lead section only summarises what the article says. We are not interested in what they say about themselves? only what the reliable sources say about them, that's how Wikipedia works. Theroadislong (talk) 15:19, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft: James Cawood

Hello,

I am James Cawood's agent and publisher (assistant) at Josef Weinberger where Cawood works also. I logged in as James - or rather set up the account on an office computer - as I was instructed by the Head of Plays, Michael Callahan to write a Wikipedia page for Mr Cawood... so it is not him who is writing this! We try to have all our authors represented on Wikipedia as they have to have a large amount of international notoriety to be published by us e.g Arhtur Miller, Eugene O'Neill, John Godber, John Steinbeck. We beleive Mr Cawood fulfills this criteria and if you want me to close this account and start again I shall but one can't help but feel this would be rather officious and a waste of time. Mr Cawood is one of our highest grossing clients currently.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Very best wishes,

Fiona Staples — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnJames1982 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

You should not be editing the article as you have a strong conflict of interest, Wikipedia is not the place to promote your authors. Theroadislong (talk) 16:26, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Glenda del E

Hi Theroadislong, first of all I want to thank you for your support

I am just trying to fix what I was recommended to do. So you mean that I could just wiki links? .for example, in the awards section I have to add wiki links? for example the kiwanis piano competition etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenda del E (talk • contribs) 18:20, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I suggest you read WP:REFSTART but creating an autobiography is the MOST difficult thing to do on Wikipedia, far better to wait for somebody else to write it when you are more clearly notable in Wikipedia terms, see the notability guidelines. 18:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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