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Speedy deletion declined: Gerald Bareebe
Hello Citrivescence. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gerald Bareebe, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: claims significance, text is only slightly promotional in tone and can be fixed by editing. Thank you. SoWhy 08:26, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
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Liz Jolly
Could you elaborate on what aspects you view as undersourced? All statements are reliably sourced and demonstrate her notability. Thanks, StudiesWorld (talk) 12:09, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Rafaelgalupa (talk) 16:03, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
This is a response to your message of "COI disclosure request". I declare that I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits to the Native Scientist page, nor any other page in Wikipedia. I am unsure about what might have given this impression and would be happy to have further clarification on this. I created this page some time ago and it has been tagged as "This article contains content that is written like an advertisement", so I made edits to try make it as neutral as possible.
- @Rafaelgalupa: Thank you for responding. I'm a new page reviewer and that message is a standard response to send to a user if a page contains mostly promotional information, as the Native Scientist page does. As written it will need more reliable, independent sources or it will be deleted. Citrivescence (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Citrivescence: Thanks a lot for your answer. I understand that the page needs independent sources, I will work on this to hopefully avoid that the page gets deleted. Rafaelgalupa (talk) 23:04, 28 December 2018 (UTC+1)
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rev-del request on Rebecca Gomperts
Hi, thank you for the vigilance on looking for copyvios. However in the request at Rebecca Gomperts I don't think the need for rev-del is there. The content is fairly minimal and as Wikipedia:Plagiarism#What is not plagiarism bullet point 3 says simple, non-creative lists of information that are common knowledge. If the list is drawn from another source (i.e., it is not common knowledge), or if creativity has gone into producing a list by selecting which facts are included, or in which order they are listed, then reproducing the list without citing its source may constitute plagiarism.
Here the material is sourced and the non-neutral terms like "controversial" were omitted and not used in any event. If you disagree with me, then fine as it's only my interpretation of the policy and you can ask for another opinion at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. It's another matter entirely as to whether or not the detailed information needed to be in the article in the first place and not anything I offer an opinion on. Nthep (talk) 12:38, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Nthep: Thank you for letting me know! I'm not very familiar with the copyvio guidelines so this is very helpful.
Move to draft space
I notice that you moved a biography to draft space citing insufficient sourcing. I understood that as a minimum biogs of people that are alive need one source. This person is dead and the article has three sources. Is there a new minimum? Why was this missed out on an AFD as it has effectively been deleted. I intend to move it back today. Thanks. Victuallers (talk) 10:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Thirst Aid Kit
Hello Citrivescence,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Thirst Aid Kit for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!
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TomCat4680 (talk) 05:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm genuinely confused by the CSD. I'm a new page reviewer and understand the criteria. This page meets notability guidelines as demonstrated by the citations in reliable sources. The credible claim of significance is verified by its being named to multiple "best of" podcast lists. Can you please explain why the page was nominated? Citrivescence (talk) 06:01, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see how it's notable. See WP:WEB. TomCat4680 (talk) 06:06, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- @TomCat4680: The article meets WP:WEBCRIT because notability is established via multiple independent, reliable sources. Can you please look at the references and let me know if I am mistaken? Citrivescence (talk) 06:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see how it's notable. See WP:WEB. TomCat4680 (talk) 06:06, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm looking for articles to feature on the main page in the DYK section during Black History Month. Are you planning to nominate this article, or would you like me to? Also, would you be able to identify her as African-American in the lead, perhaps provide a citation in the biography section? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- BTW, non-free images at Flicker show her performing in 2018 without a mask: [1], [2]. Yoninah (talk) 12:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Yes, please do nominate it. I will update the header with a source stating that she's Black American. Also, please note that in the first image, Lekeili is in the background with the the bandana, not the foreground. As for the second one, we have no way to verify that it's her even though it's labelled with her name. I'm inclined to believe it isn't her since she doesn't perform without a covering, essentially as a rule. It's possible that the photographer, who seems to be a professional, just got the name wrong. Citrivescence (talk) 01:21, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I'll get to it on Saturday. Yoninah (talk) 01:24, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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- @Atlantic306: I can see why you wanted to unreview the page, however, I think it is automatically marked "reviewed" when a page is PRODed. Citrivescence (talk) 20:29, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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- @Atlantic306: Oh okay, no problem! Citrivescence (talk)
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Removing a notability tag
I noticed you removed the notability tag from Muriel Leung with this edit: [3]. I'm curious why you removed it without engaging in the ongoing discussion on the article's talk page or addressing any of the issues raised there, such as the unreliable sourcing, citation bombing, and other indications that the subject does not actually meet our notability guidelines. Would you mind explaining your edit? Thanks. Bakazaka (talk) 09:17, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Bakazaka: I didn't realize a discussion was taking place on the talk page, so I wasn't intentionally ignoring the discussion. I'm a new page reviewer, and often other people will tag a page to indicate notability is questionable without a talk page discussion. I removed the tag because I considered that between the PBS article, the Publisher's Weekly review, and the award from a notable organization, her notability is established via the book. Citrivescence (talk) 00:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- As I noted on the talk page, it's possible an article about the book is notable under WP:NBOOK, but the author does not meet WP:AUTHOR. The award is a small press contest in which the winner gets published, and the Pushcart Prize nomination means nothing for Wikipedia notability (almost every literary magazine nominates stuff published in their magazine). One reason I know these details is because I did the work to find and vet reliable sources, which the article creator has subsequently blasted with citation spam in order to puff up the article. So, to business: do you object to me replacing the notability tag? Alternatively, would you support changing the article about the author into an article about the book? Bakazaka (talk) 01:02, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Bakazaka: Thank you for the rundown. I think either is fine; by all means, replace the tag. I do disagree that the Pushcart Prize is not notable, and think that designation should be determined based on group consensus. Citrivescence (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I've restored the notability tag. I agree that winning a Pushcart Prize is an indicator of notability. A single nomination is not, given the low threshold for nomination (see [4]). Bakazaka (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Bakazaka: Thank you for the rundown. I think either is fine; by all means, replace the tag. I do disagree that the Pushcart Prize is not notable, and think that designation should be determined based on group consensus. Citrivescence (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- As I noted on the talk page, it's possible an article about the book is notable under WP:NBOOK, but the author does not meet WP:AUTHOR. The award is a small press contest in which the winner gets published, and the Pushcart Prize nomination means nothing for Wikipedia notability (almost every literary magazine nominates stuff published in their magazine). One reason I know these details is because I did the work to find and vet reliable sources, which the article creator has subsequently blasted with citation spam in order to puff up the article. So, to business: do you object to me replacing the notability tag? Alternatively, would you support changing the article about the author into an article about the book? Bakazaka (talk) 01:02, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Deleting a new page without explanation
You deleted the page The Gay Rub without offering any explanation for why you did so or engaging in any discussion on the talk page. Please can you let me know the reasoning behind removing it? Thanks.Kazrene (talk) 19:30, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Kazrene
- @Kazrene: Sure. The page was not deleted, it was redirected. The topic exists on another page, and the content was substantially similar enough for a merge. I'm a new page reviewer and those are the instructions we are given if a topic exists elsewhere. New page reviewers don't need to start a discussion for a merge/redirect, so I didn't. Hope that helps. Citrivescence (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
I would disagree that this content was "substantially similar" and necessitated a merge. Although Steven Reigns created the Gay Rub (and that information is, rightly, given on his page), the project has an independent existence. It is also categorized differently to the Reigns page (a living person biography) in that it contains information that is useful to people researching LGBT history, monument markers, persons commemorated in those markers etc. The LGBT history category is quite thin on Wikipedia as it is. Much of the Gay Rub information is not relevant to the Reigns page and may well be deleted by future editors. I believe you have also now flagged the Reigns page as needing editing - again without explanation or suggestions on the talk page – so this is likely to happen. The Gay Rub page is effectively deleted (there's no way to access it, or any of the edits or previous discussion, it just redirects). It would have been more helpful to have a discussion about the validity of the page while it still existed. I propose that you restore the Gay Rub as a separate page so that a fruitful discussion can take place. It would also be extremely helpful if you could highlight specific issues with the Reigns page so they can be corrected. Thanks Kazrene (talk) 17:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)Kazrene
- @Kazrene: Again, I am a new page reviewer and followed protocol; the topic existed elsewhere so I merged the content. The history actually can be accessed; when you go to a redirect, there is a link at the top of the redirected page that takes you to the initial page. The revision history, including all the edits, can be accessed there. I'm not going to restore the page because I'm confident in my actions. You can feel free to remove the redirect but you should prepare for the likelihood that the same thing will happen by a different new page reviewer. If you want to get other editors' perspectives, you can check out WP:VP. Citrivescence (talk) 19:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Derek S. Green tag
Hi. I noticed you recently put a copyedit tag on the article for Derek S. Green. Your reason was "tone" but you did not provide any additional information in the tag or on the talk page, and I'm not sure what you find problematic. As it is a relatively short stub, could you please identify what issues there are with tone in the article so that it can be improved and the tag removed? Thanks. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 22:13, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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deletion of Princeton Area Community Foundation
hi Citrivescence,
I see you speedily deleted the page for the Princeton Area Community Foundation because it was not clear why it was worthy of a wikipedia page. I unfortunately did not see your notice until it was too late to contest it. The Princeton Area Community Foundation is a community foundation that notably contributes to the public good. The work of the PACF is reported about in multiple news outlets. (see citations) Perhaps I did not clearly explain it's note-worthiness well enough in the wiki article, my apologies. Could you email me the code and give a chance to clarify it or revive it as a draft?
Please read this article if you are still unclear why community foundations are important and newsworthy. It is from the NYtimes and quotes a former president of the PACF: https://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/30/nyregion/foundations-help-without-fanfare.html
One question: Why speedily delete vs a non-speedily delete?
Thank you for your time --Mrgarden 2342 (talk) 19:09, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Mrgarden 2342: Thank you for the message. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what code you're referring to. Nonetheless, the reason the page was speedily deleted was because it did not express significance as outlined by WP:A7. In addition, my personal feelings about community foundations didn't play a role. I am a new page reviewer and if the significance of an article is not asserted, we are to mark the page for speedy deletion, so, that's why I speedily deleted the page instead of using a different deletion process. Finally, I think it would be useful for you to read a couple of essays that explain what content is appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia according to current guidelines: WP:WORTHYCAUSE and WP:NERROR have been useful to me. If you are able to produce independent, reliable sources with significant coverage then you should absolutely recreate the article. Thank you! Citrivescence (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.18
Hello Citrivescence,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
- Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
- Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
- Reliable Sources for NPP
Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
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- News
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- Discussions of interest
- A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
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Megan thee stallion
Im sprry but Megan's "Fever" is definitely not an album. It is a mixtape instead. A few days ago, Megan retweeted a tweet which said the same thing. KARANSUTTA (talk) 21:48, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Ways to improve Carly Usdin
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Thanks for creating Carly Usdin! I edit here too, under the username FULBERT and it's nice to meet you :-)
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A page you started (Patti Harrison) has been reviewed!
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Well sourced, thanks for creating
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Your draft article, User:Citrivescence/Benji Aflalo
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019
Hello Citrivescence,
- WMF at work on NPP Improvements
More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.
- QUALITY of REVIEWING
Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.
- Backlog
The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.
- Move to draft
NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Mitra Jouhari.png
A tag has been placed on File:Mitra Jouhari.png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the file appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Did I miss something? - You seem to be quite careful about licensing and noting the source for files. But in this instance, I can find no Creative Commons license listed at the source page or within the video itself. -- Whpq (talk) 15:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Whpq: Hi, yes, I think there is a misunderstanding. I think the issue is that the license is hidden on the page. Directly below the title of the video there is a clickable text that says "More" and if you click that you'll see the license. The license is Attribution 3.0 Unported, see here: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/. Please let me know if you're able to locate the license. Thanks! --Citrivescence (talk) 18:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- My goodness they did a fine job of hiding the license. My apologies. I had clicked on the "read more" in the description, "show more" in the side bar and reviewed the credits in the film itself but did not find the license. I missed the "more" under the title. For the edification of anybody reading this talk page, there is no copyright violation. With the helpful instructions above, I can now see the Creative Commons license. I am going to request that the image be restored. And once again apologies for any troubles this might have caused. -- Whpq (talk) 18:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I have submitted a refund request. -- Whpq (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Whpq: Great, thanks so much! --Citrivescence (talk) 19:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I have submitted a refund request. -- Whpq (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Eddie Shin
I think this article deserves a full AFD discussion. Shin has had a productive career with recurring roles in some major television series. For the time being, I've stubbed the page and added a couple of references, but I haven't done any serious searching for sources.
Keep in mind that I created this article in 2005, which was a very different time for Wikipedia. Of course, the vast bulk of the content was added by other users. Zagalejo^^^ 02:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
Thanks for creating Chella Man.
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The article is a bit too reliant on interview-based sources to solidly establish that notability guidelines have been met. That having been said, an internet search suggested to me that you could likely find enough independent coverage out there.
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August 2019 at Women in Red
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Thanks for creating Vincint.
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September 2019 at Women in Red
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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello Citrivescence,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
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- Paid editing
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- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
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