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Closing for EClinical trial technology

Hi MBisanz,

Thanks for closing the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EClinical trial technology AfD discussion. The action was a merge, but the target article you mentioned, Clinical Trial Management System (CTMS), is a redlink. I think you meant Clinical trial management system, which still exists. Clinical trial management system is undergoing its own AfD right now, but IMO looks like a keep at this point. Thanks, --Mark viking (talk) 05:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's my error in copying during the close. I'm on my phone, so if you could fix it, that would be great. Sorry. MBisanz talk 14:41, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Done. Clinical trial management system was kept, so it remains a valid target. Thanks, --Mark viking (talk) 17:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Rename

Thanks for renaming me LGA (was LightGreenApple) talk to me 01:53, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of "Ziron" page

Hello there, the page for Ziron was deleted after a previous undeletion, which had previous updates to correct the problems that caused the deletion process, however the page has still been deleted, I would like to request that the page is restored, since the refs were added to the page before the closing of the deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.83.46.47 (talk) 15:21, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you'll need to file a request at WP:DRV because there has been a new deletion discussion. MBisanz talk 12:45, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Usurpation Request

Could you review my usurpation request? Thanks! — Rosscoolguy 15:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 16:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for changing my name, but now I apparently have 0 edits. Rosscoolguy 20:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Also I don't have a watch list anymore. Please fix these problems. Thanks! Rosscoolguy 20:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I don't know what you did. It says my new username is Nerdfighter, but on the top right, it says "rosscoolguy". It directs me to to "rosscoolguy " contributions page, but it only show edits that I have done since the usurpation. The "Nerdfighter" contribution page only shows edits I have done before the usurpation. please help! Rosscoolguy 20:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok nevermind I had to log out. *facepalm* — Rosscoolguy 20:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

AfD help?

The AfD process is undoubtedly not hard, but I haven't done it in a long time, so am not quite sure of the steps, and definitely unsure how to pick up on in the middle. I fielded an OTRS request to delete an article, told them they should try nominating it themselves, they did, but I don't think it is done. Can I ask you to finished the steps, which of course does not mean you have to support deletion. The article is Nazie Eftekhari The ticket is 2013021510008221. I think this may fall into the gray area of notable enough to have an article, but not so notable that we would decline a request to delete it. But that's my opinion.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 01:12, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Image hepl!

Advice please: I've noticed an inconsistent use & indication(s) for compliance on "images" in User signatures. I have a small one incorporated into my sig that is intentionally limited in size and pixel use, but am having a hard time finding a definitive "yes/no" on it's appropriateness. The vast majority of persons ignore it, but I've had one mention they could "help me fix it" if I needed. What might the general acceptability be? (I notice lots of "images" in signatures of varying colors and styles and complexities, but I've never seen someone offer to "fix" it before). Barada wha? 01:01, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I would be surprised to see actual images in other signatures. They're generally considered against policy as a wasteful use of resources and a hacking vector (imagine if I redirected your image to a penis image). I don't know where you see an inconsistency, but Wikipedia:SIG#Images looks crystal clear to me. MBisanz talk 01:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
This probably comes from my friendly pointer on Barada's talkpage to WP:SIG (following a quasi-complaint on WP:ANI. I'm not sure why Barada didn't simply ask me ... I thought I was being friendly :-) If Barada wants to point out situations where he has seen images used in signatures, I'll be happy to drop friendly notes to those editors as well, plus monitor/assist them in fixing the issues. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:52, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for clarification from administrators for Paavo273 entries at AN/I

Hi Administrators Beyond My Ken and MBisanz, I have read your and other administrator remarks prior to Admin Beyond My Ken closing my complaints. I was told at arbcom that arbcom was the wrong place to have filed, and at least two administrators there suggested this was the appropriate place to file. Could you gentlemen please clarify a couple things:

1. What if any option do I still have to pursue my complaints?
2. I was told by Admin MBisanz to reduce my complaints to 200 words, which I am of course willing to do; but then the file was closed; so I should not be reducing that closed file, correct?
3. Do I still have the option to file at AN/I or somewhere else, only with fewer words? I understand the thing about people being busy; that makes sense.
4. About WP:boomerang, my understanding is that would relate to some evaluation of either the same conduct for which I was originally warned or for some prior or later conduct. Is that correct thinking on my part? I have not engaged in any other controversial edits besides what I was warned about by Admin. Fut. Perf. at Talk:Continuation War, and I have made no edits to that talk page since the warning.
5. If you could tell me what if any remaining options I have in this matter, I would be grateful.
6. Also, for any other advice you have to offer about this.

Thanks both of you for your time and trouble to reply. Paavo273 (talk) 05:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Let's see how I can explain this. If you write a complaint of no more than 200 words and post it to ANI, I will not block you for writing a disruptively long post. If a majority of people do not agree with your complaint at ANI, I will block you until such time as you agree to stop filing complaints. I base this explanation on the controversial conduct you have engaged in, including the filing of complaints out of process. My advice for you would be to drop this complaint and any related grievances, as I can state with a near certainty,based on my eight years of experience on the project, that if you pursue it, you will be permanently blocked for disruption. MBisanz talk 05:57, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your lightning-fast reply, Admin. MBisanz. Can you please clarify just a couple more things for me: What does filing of complaints "out of process" mean? Also, the only other complaint I ever filed at WP was for this same matter at arbcom where I was told AN/I was the right place to file. Does a user such as myself not have any right or privilege at WP to file a claim at AN/I, even one less than 200 words? Thanks for your trouble. Paavo273 (talk) 06:14, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Filing and continuing an Arbcom case over a warning is out of process. Filing a 1,996 word ANI complaint is out of process. There is no inherent right to due process on Wikipedia. If you continue to seek redress in this matter, you will be blocked for abuse of process. MBisanz talk 06:20, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Just a note here to make it clear to Paavo273 that I am not an admin, and have never held myself out as one. Anyone can close a discussion on AN/I if they think it is warranted, which I did. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:23, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpina snowmobile

Hello MBisanz: I'm considering taking the article Alpina snowmobile to Wikipedia:Deletion review; per the instructions there, I'm sending you this message to discuss the matter first. Consensus in the discussion did not actually support a merging of the article Alpina snowmobile to Snowmobile, because there was only 1 merge !vote/comment in the entire discussion. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion discussions have a continuum of closes from deletion to retention and merge is somewhere in the middle of those. The !votes in favor of retention were fairly unpersuasive because neither linked to the claimed policy for inherent notability, while the delete comment explained at length why it did not comply with relevant policies. The article's author also supported deletion on the basis of copyright violations. But Aceo argued for a merger and a merger could be done without retaining the problems cited in the other delete comments. Therefore, in the precautionary spirit of WP:Preserve, I found his comment convincing in lieu of a deletion close. If it actually causes a problem, I'd be willing to re-close as delete, but I read consensus as non-retention with a minor support for merging the non-retained article. MBisanz talk 12:49, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
After consideration, I'll pass on taking this to DRV. The thing is, though, that merging Alpina snowmobile to snowmobile would give undue weight to this one company. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Paul_Lutus page

I am a little surprised that the page on Paul Lutus has just been deleted. Being simply 'one of the masses' who use Wikipedia on a regular basis, I don't understand what was going on in "Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Paul_Lutus", but felt I had to register and post this note...

Way back in the 1980's there would have been no doubt as to Mr Lutus being notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia, same could be said for his earlier work at NASA. For an encyclopedia to delete entries which a small number of individuals feel not relevant to them today diminishes the whole work as a historical document.

I have no links with Paul Lutus, I just happened to download his 'Arachnophilia' editor and looked him up - to find he'd been deleted.

Yours, TonyWilk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonywilk (talk • contribs) 21:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all the usurpations you do. — nerdfighter 03:20, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

AfD outomce of Feeder school

The target page on Wiktionary, wikt:Feeder school, was deleted; and although wikt:feeder school exists, it doesn't seem useful enough to soft-redirect to. Is there an article on WP that contains suitable content in one of its sections? We could redirect to that.

Also, when creating Wiktionary soft redirects, please use {{wi}} and {{subst:longcomment}}, so it doesn't show up on Special:ShortPages. Thanks (and, while I'm here, thanks for your hard work as a bureaucrat! And as a steward too!! My goodness.) — This, that and the other (talk) 10:30, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I've re-targeted on the small f version because that version is as long as the deletion wikt article. I also fixed my formatting errors. Let me know if you need anything else and sorry for messing up the formatting. MBisanz talk 21:07, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Bošković family

Why keep a redirect? It's confusing with Bošković (members of numerous Bošković families), which is why nobody proposed such a solution. The consensus from the discussion is to delete it. Don't you agree? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I had merged it because you said you merged the content with the Nikola article. If I was mistaken and the redirect isn't applicable to that content, feel free to delete the redirect. MBisanz talk 21:05, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
There are a couple of clauses from the old article copied verbatim into the new one, so technically we shouldn't delete the origin at all per WP:RUD, but at the same time, I doubt that that small amount of text is copyrightable in the first place, so the whole notion is moot. Regardless, I think this can be fixed by making a good-faith effort to attribute them on the talk page, I'll do that now.
The redirects are confusing, they should go. I'd prefer it if you do it, because I'm the nominator. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 22:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 Done MBisanz talk 00:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Can you also update the tag on the AfD page? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Sure thing. MBisanz talk 16:01, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

RfA/RfB votes

Questions about RfA/RfB voting:

  1. What do bureaucrats do when a user uses multiple accounts to give multiple supports to an RfA candidate?
  2. What do bureaucrats do when a user uses multiple accounts to give multiple opposes to an RfA candidate?
  3. What do bureaucrats do when a user uses multiple accounts to give multiple supports to an RfB candidate?
  4. What do bureaucrats do when a user uses multiple accounts to give multiple opposes to an RfB candidate? Cmach7 19:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
These questions can all really be collapsed into one as the crats don't act differently between each situation you describe. The answer is that if the use of multiple accounts is found before the close of the RFX, all of the comments made by a socking user would be struck. The bureaucrats would not take those comments into account in closing the RFX. If socking is found after the close of the RFX, nothing would be done with respect to the close of the RFX. MBisanz talk 19:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Innovative Artists

why did you delete Innovative Artists DavidCitron (talk) 22:40, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

There was a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Innovative Artists where the Wikipedia community found the article should be deleted. MBisanz talk 22:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of List of surfing areas

Two days, two votes and a huge list is deleted? I don't think it's the right decision. I'm talking as a reader here. I used this article many times and it was helpful. Is there any particular reason you deleted it? FYI - lists of surfing locations by country are still there. You're going to delete them, too? BadaBoom (talk) 21:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

It was listed for 7 days on the deletion discussion page. Three people opined in favor of deletion on the grounds that it violated Wikipedia's prohibition against including indiscriminate lists. I'm sorry you disagree with the deletion. You can always appeal it at WP:DRV. Only articles that go through a deletion discussion or otherwise qualify for deletion are deleted, so I won't be deleting the other article unless that happens. MBisanz talk 21:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
It's not that I disagree. I just NEED that list. It's fun and I used it regularly. Any chance you can restore it into my personal space? Sandbox... anywhere? I'm not sure if it can be done in en:WP, I know they do it on ru:WP. Possible? 23:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
I've put it at User:BadaBoom/List of surfing areas. MBisanz talk 17:53, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you VERY much! I really appreciate it! BadaBoom (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Bot

I used an outdated version yesterday by mistake when I ran interwiki.py on my computer. Now it's OK. --Makecat 07:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. MBisanz talk 07:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 February 2013

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Paul_Lutus

"Wait... you did what?!" - I just saw that today the page for Paul Lucas was deleted and am in a bit in shock and disbelief. Why did this happen, i don't understand the discussion archived above - why was the article nominated and only after a week and 3 votes deleted? Wikipedia:GNG#Articles_not_satisfying_the_notability_guidelines says that deletion should be last resort - instead {notability} tag should be placed and sources sought or merge considered.

Disclaimer: i am a fan of Paul Lutus since the days of Apple2 and GraForth but i am not related to him nor do i know him. I have been around Wikipedia for a while but i don't know the behind-the-scenes process, i only fix minor things in articles on occasion, so bear with me not knowing the protocol.

But: Paul Lutus is notable enough to have dedicated page on Wikipedia. He (alone!) wrote the first text editor program for Apple2 computer - AppleWriter - which was massively popular at the time. He also wrote GraForth/TransForth - couple of implementations of the Forth programming language, also popular for Apple2. He is still writing programs which he makes available for free/careware at his web site

It is fairly well known also that Paul Lutus is a bit of a lone-wolf, hermit and curmudgeon, someone who prefers to live in the wilderness than to deal with people. So there might be few to no sources for his life minutiae. But if that's the case, shouldn't only those parts be deleted?

I think there are issues with some of the votes: (1) user "DrumstickJuggler" that voted on 8-feb has been created on 7-feb (can such user have clout?). (2) Another voter is "Lutusp" - but if you actually read everything they said, they are asking to protect the page from vandalism (because of Lutus's controversial views and arguments on psychology elsewhere).

Regarding popularity, subject name can easily be googled but i think this gives some perspective: from this reddit "ask-me-anything" discussions in 2012, http://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-ama-stephen-wolfram-paul-lutus/ - in order of popularity the participants were Neil deGrasse Tyson, Stephen Wolfram, Tim Schafer, Paul Lutus, Charley Koontz, Taika Waititi, 5-Second Films - in geekdom popularity P.L. was smack in the middle of the crowd and all the others have wiki pages and no requests for their deletion it seems.

So, what are the options? Can you review/revise your decision/action in view of my attempt of explanation? Thank you if you had the patience to read the text.

PS. i cannot see the deleted history but seems page had existed at least since 2006 or earlier. EnTerr (talk) 08:11, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Deletion discussions last one week and three opinions is sufficient in such cases. Any persons can participate, even those recently registered. I've reviewed your explanation, including the reference to the reddit discussion (which is not a basis to avoid deletion) but stand by my close. You might try talking to User talk:DreamGuy because he nominated the article or you could always file an appeal of my deletion at WP:DRV. MBisanz talk 18:53, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I know the reddit AMAs shown is not hard evidence - it was just soft attempt to show you notability of the subject, by putting in perspective next to others. I understand you not wanting to get involved substantively on the matter (or having to keep neutrality), i will pursue your suggestion.EnTerr (talk) 21:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't doubt that he is a good guy, or that he made contributions to Apple history, and so forth. But what we need for a Wikipedia article are reliable sources specifically about the topic... in this case, Paul Lutus. If you know any printed magazine interviews, books on Apple history devoting a good chunk of a chapter to him, or anything like that, maybe you'll have a shot. If you want to work on a sandbox page to see if you can make an article that meets the criteria listed at WP:GNG, I'm sure MBisanz would copy over the text of the deleted article to it so you can work on it.
While you are doing that you may also want to look for sources on Arachnophilia, since that's probably the next one I'll put up for deletion. DreamGuy (talk) 06:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
What does someone being "a good guy" have to do with wikipedic notability? There are bunch of sources re P.L. if you bother to check on Google Books. Which presumably is something one does before proposing article for deletion, especially if that article is not in their area of competence (as seems to be the case). Here are some sources:
  • "The Apple Revolution: Steve Jobs, the counterculture and how the crazy ones took over the world" by Luke Dormehl, Random House 2012
  • "In Pursuit of the American Dream" by Bob Dotson, Simon & Schuster 1985
  • "Software people: an insider's look at the personal computer software industry" by Douglas G. Carlston, Simon & Schuster, 1985
  • Popular Computing, Volume 2, McGraw-Hill 1983
You can read most of the chapter 4 relating to PL online at http://books.google.com/books?id=640f7JNTX0kC
--- EnTerr (talk) 04:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


I put it at User:EnTerr/Paul Lutus. MBisanz talk 17:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, MBisanz. I will see what i can do although i have no experience in significant re-writes. Note the page has been recently reviewed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Lutus/GA1 . Are there any deadlines not to miss to be able to get the page restored - with history, as to request partial protection due to regular vandalism? I gather Mr.Lutus writings that psychology-is-not-a-science are good at riling up psychology fans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnTerr (talk • contribs) 11:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Nope, no deadline for any of those things. Whenever you're ready, let me know and I'll walk it through WP:DRV. MBisanz talk 16:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Help to unify global account

Thankyou for your efforts at name change.

Could you help to unify the current account globally?

New - http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth&target=Fauzan
Old - http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth&target=Fauzan+Zaid

Thanks Fauzantalk ✆ email ✉ 11:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I'm sorry. All of the projects where you have edits already have bureaucrats, so you would need to request renames from them. A list of the pages where they can be found is at meta:Index_of_pages_where_renaming_can_be_requested. MBisanz talk 16:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I shall see to it. Fauzan Zaid (talk) 16:52, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Request for unprotection of Futz!

You previously protected Futz! as a result of our discussion at User talk:MBisanz/Archive 16#Futz! is seemingly ineligible for WP:SALT. Now that there is WP:CON regarding the existence of a redirect there, I would like to request that you unprotect it per my reasoning at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 January 25#Futz!: "the two reasons that it would redirect to an unprotected page (making the protection a bit redundant) and, more importantly, the original rationale for protection no longer applies since the community has concluded that the redirect should stay (the original rationale was a compromise stemming from the deletion discussion, the closing administrator of which disagreeing with me as to whether a redirect was justified given the community's conclusion in that discussion)". Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 05:56, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and tweaked it back to semi-protection. I'm going to be very unhappy though if this is used as a basis to re-create the article. MBisanz talk 01:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

James Carroll (novelist)

Hey MBisanz, I don't like this title. I mean, it had to be moved, but he's much more than a novelist. Will you settle for "author" or something like that? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:03, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I don't remember why I picked novelist back in 2009, but yes, author or any other name you think is appropriate is fine with me. MBisanz talk 16:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I got some input from another editor and I'll mull it over. FWIW, his Constantine's Sword is very good reading. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:30, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
OK, I moved him to James Carroll (author). Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 23:17, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

DC happy hour on Thursday, February 28!

Please join Wikimedia DC for Happy Hour at the Capitol City Brewery at Metro Center on Thursday, February 28 at 6 p.m. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 34. Hope to see you there! Harej (talk) 02:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposal for RfA conduct clarification

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Proposal for RfA conduct clarification (amendments to editnotice and addition to Template:RfA). -- Trevj (talk) 21:06, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. MBisanz talk 23:02, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

recent user rename

Hi MBisanz: I recently requested that my username be changed. However, upon making the change, in my talk page history either Wikipedia or you divulged both my old and new usernames. This basically defeats my effort to remain anonymous. Can the record of my username change be deleted from my user page history? I'm not sure if something like that is even possible. -- Argo752 (talk) 18:31, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I think I did it. The answer is not really without a bunch of revdeletions, since the request was made on the public board. I'd suggest contacting the oversight mailing list (yes, I am an oversighter, but I would like some other feedback) with the issue, and I'll look into if revdeletions would be appropriate. -- Avi (talk) 18:44, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Kvalheim

Hi there. One month ago, you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Kvalheim as redirect to Notodden FK. In the discussion, only one user opted for a redirect, and I tried to explain my opinion about that being a bad choose. If I found a non-notable footballer redirected to a club-article like this, I would probably have opened a WP:RFD to get the redirect deleted, but now there is an AfD closed as Redirect. As you were the closing admin, I came here to ask for your opinion about this; do you think I should open a WP:DRV or RFD? Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 12:16, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and nuked it per the low page view count at stats since the AFD. MBisanz talk 21:21, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Cheers, thank you. Mentoz86 (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 February 2013

Invitation to a discussion: Wikipedia and legislative data

Hi MBisanz, since you are interested in meetups in DC, I'd like to invite you to attend the Cato Institute's "Wikipedia and Legislative Data" events on March 14. (There's also an all day workshop on March 15; let me know if you are interested, we may be able to add more people.)

There will be an introduction to Wikipedia and open edit-a-thon in the afternoon, and a Sunshine Week Reception in the evening. I hope you can make it!

Hope to see you there! -Pete (talk) 19:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I got your email and I'm going to look at it tonight. MBisanz talk 21:19, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Apologies for the invitation inundation :) -Pete (talk) 23:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, March 9!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Guapo's at Tenleytown-AU on Saturday, March 9 at 5 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 35. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 14:04, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Question about WP:AUDIT

Hi, MBisanz, may I ask if the members of WP:AUDIT perform CheckUser actions, esp the members that are also arbitrators? or their permission is only for viewing logs and processing complaints? Thanks! --Ben.MQ (talk) 05:36, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I have not performed checkuser actions in my two terms on Audit, but I believe my colleagues are on the record as not adhering to such a strict interpretation of policy as I am. Have you seen the recent discussion on this topic at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions#Motion_on_Audit_Subcommittee. I could ask my colleagues' permission to disclose more detailed stats than those at Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Audit_Subcommittee/Statistics#Rolling_six_month_CheckUser_statistics. MBisanz talk 11:33, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
My community is voting for the first batch of local checkusers and I was learning systems on different wikis. Thank you very much for this information, and no I don't think I should trouble you for the details :) --Ben.MQ (talk) 12:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Request to evaluate Joe's Null Bot 2

I request that you or one of your comrades in arms take a look at the bot request for Joe's Null Bot 2. The final step of implementing TAFI on the main page hinges on this bot being approved. --NickPenguin(contribs) 15:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I see Addshore got to it. Sorry for the delay. MBisanz talk 18:15, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh steward...

You are the only steward I know, so I get to bug you... I closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Worstcook/sandbox for deletion. However, I'm unable to delete the page as the page has over 5,000 revisions. Could you use your magical powers? Bgwhite (talk) 20:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 21:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 04 March 2013

Messed up username change

Hi, I'm hoping you can help sort out a username change that's gotten messed up. This new user started out with the name Ali Hewson, but that is the name of a real person (Ali Hewson, singer Bono's wife). So upon my recommendation, she went through the username change process and per Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple/Archive127#Ali Hewson → Miss Bono you changed it to Miss Bono on 29 December 2012. (There's no real person called Miss Bono; Ali Hewson is sometimes called Mrs Bono by the press, and their daughters are just called by their first name with a last name of Hewson.)

But Special:Contributions/Miss_Bono only shows the contributions of the renamed Ali Hewson before the name change. When she does start editing again, on 8 February 2013, it's as Ali Hewson again, even though her user page User:Ali_Hewson redirects to User:Miss Bono and the same with her user talk page. Can you figure out what's happened here? Special:Log/Ali_Hewson says "17:51, February 8, 2013 User account Ali Hewson (talk | contribs) was created automatically" ... does that mean she created the account a second time? She's asking me for help on this at User talk:Wasted Time R#Please, Check. Thanks! Wasted Time R (talk) 13:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

User:ZoeB

Unless I'm missing something you seem to have moved this users page without actually renaming them--Jac16888 Talk 15:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

This is an odd one. Something does seem to have done wrong with the rename. The logs show the rename took place on 12 February 2013: [1]. Special:contributions/Zoeb and Special:contributions/ZoeB list the same edits. But Special:Listusers has a Zoeb listed but not a ZoeB. Maybe the software got confused by the change in capitalisation? A developer should probably take a look. Do we know if Zoeb/ZoeB is having trouble using their account(s)? WJBscribe (talk) 16:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
No idea, I just came across it because User:ZoeB came up as ownerless--Jac16888 Talk 18:03, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Weird. I will file a bugzilla later today unless someone else files it first. MBisanz talk 18:06, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
See bugzilla:45971. MBisanz talk 22:56, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Query about username change

Hello, Matthew. The user Nencnews was given a username block, presumably because the name appeared to refer to www.nencnews.com. He/she was unblocked on the basis of an unblock request stating that he/she would request a change of username to jhsnowden3. Instead, the user requested a change of username to NENCGuy, saying in the request "Current username appears to be a company/group name", and you granted the request. On the face of it, it seems obvious that, if "Nencnews" refers to a company, then "NENCGuy" probably refers to the same company. My instinct was to re-block, but before doing so I thought it best to check with you, in case there is some point that I have missed that justifies the change of username. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:13, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't make the connection that the NENC was part of the problem (not just the News part). You can reblock or ask him to pick something else since it was my fault. MBisanz talk 22:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. However, the user has given me an explanation which seems reasonable to me, so I will leave it. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

bot flag

This is my first time through the process. Someone will assign me a bot flag and give it to me? Or do I have to go get one somewhere?—Kww(talk) 15:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

And I've got it. It's like magic.—Kww(talk) 15:31, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Haha. Presto! MBisanz talk 17:08, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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Two old AfD's

Hi there. I'm leaving you a message, as you are one of those that closes a lot of AfD's. We have two AfD's listed at WP:FOOTY from 26 February (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Víctor Zúniga) and 27 February (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tamás Romhányi (2nd nomination)) that hasn't been closed or relisted yet. I believe that the problem is that they hasn't been listed at the daily log (step 3). Even though there seems to be a clear consensus in both AfD's, it should be noted that all the voters are WP:FOOTY members, so I don't know if it's appropiate to relist them so that other people could find them and vote their opinion, or if they could be closed right away, but that is up to you or another admin. I've also sent the same message to User:Mark Arsten and User:The Bushranger. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:49, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I see they've been relisted, so I think that was the appropriate action. MBisanz talk 22:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NorthLondoner

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NorthLondoner. I am bringing this to your attention since the revision history of User:NorthLondoner states:

  • 19:51, 13 January 2013 MBisanz(talk | contribs | block) . . (34 bytes) (+34) . .(MBisanz moved page User:NorthLondoner to User:GrahamWPhillips: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "NorthLondoner" to "GrahamWPhillips")

You might therefore be able to verify that at least two of these users are the same. – Fayenatic London 19:11, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I see others have figured it out. MBisanz talk 16:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Request

Hi MBisanz, I recently changed my username here but I have seen that I can't log in with the new username in all wiki projects. Since you're steward, could you please change my old username (Torreslfchero) to the current on (Tolly4bolly), so that I don't need to log in and out to edit on other projects. I've changed usernames to current in simple and no wikipedia. T4B (talk) 08:00, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I'm sorry, I can't do the renames on Wikis that already have crats. Go to the projects on here where you have edits and asked to be renamed on the pages listed Meta:Index of pages where renaming can be requested. MBisanz talk 23:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the information. T4B (talk) 12:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Username change oddity

Hi!

Thank you very much for updating my username from "Zoeb" to "ZoeB"! Curiously though, it appears to have reverted, although my user page hasn't, and I can't see a log of the reversion in the usurpation archives. I was wondering if you might know what's happened, or at least who I ought to ask about it?

Thank you very much!

(I see you're in Washington. Nice! My partner and I had a great time there last year, walking along the Tidal Basin and listening to the cicadas.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoeb (talk • contribs) 23:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah.... It turns out the rename really broke your account. We're trying to figure out at bugzilla:45971 how to fix it. MBisanz talk 23:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for changing my username

Lightening Fast
That was an extremely quick response. I was not expecting the change to be done that fast :) Sdht (talk) 05:32, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Name change

No, that account I think anyone who does not use -- BradfordΣTalk 13:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Indians-Tigers rivalry

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Thanks

Thanks for changing my username. Much appreciated. ~ DanielTom (talk) 09:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Anon IP edit

Can the orphaned image in this anon IP edit be restored and placed back in this wikipedia article--a book by Agatha Christie? It was removed by an anon IP from this article--with no reason given. Just curious, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

  • Someone plays around with the image title with an anon IP account and the next thing, the image is gone. This doesn't seem right... and the image should be restored and put back in the article which now has no image of the original 1st edition book cover. Sadly its the IP's only contribution. --Leoboudv (talk) 02:51, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
The other possibility is whether the original image can be restored below and any no 7 day use tags removed so that I can place it in the article. The image did not face a deletion. Its use was removed by an anonymous IP account. Is this OK?

Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 14:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank You very much for your help. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Fran Rogers / Fran McCrory double redirects

Hi, Matthew. I don't know what the backstory is behind the Fran Rogers / Fran McCrory page moves (and I don't need to!) but please could you take a look at the double redirects left behind? See Special:DoubleRedirects. Thanks! – Wdchk (talk) 23:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 00:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

ZigZag

Haya! I've noticed that my request for the Usurpation this temporary name indicates, is now at 10 days since made on March 17th. Is there something more I need to do? — Temporary to usurp ZigZag (talk) 15:21, 27 March 2013 (UTC) (main name User:Love Robin)

 Done Sorry, I was just busy elsewhere. MBisanz talk 22:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! No probs. I admin and mod a few sites, plus the ever-pesky RL, so I understand. No worries. Thank you. — ZigZag (talk) 00:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Cross-wiki attack accounts

Can you take a look at User talk:INeverCry#User:Qźwa Sobkowska. It looks like whoever this is has created attack pages on several wikis, and is continuing to stalk User:Michał Sobkowski. I was able to get an admin to block the latest one on de.wiki: de:Benutzer Diskussion:Leyo#Attack account. There's another earlier blocked attack account here in the history of User:Michał Sobkowski's userpage, along with IP attacks. Michał Sobkowski's userpage on pl.wiki is protected, so it looks like they've had the same issues. I just thought I'd mention it to you, and see what you thought of it. Thanks for your time. INeverCry 00:41, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't have a particularly good answer, but I locked all of the accounts I could find and blocked a couple more at enwiki. Might be worth asking an english or polish checkuser to check some of them. MBisanz talk 04:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. INeverCry 18:10, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot

Yo, thanks a lot for changing my name.

My1 21:08, 31 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by My1 (talk • contribs)

Sure thing. MBisanz talk 21:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Question about bot trial edit

Hi MBisanz! In this edit, although your edit summary was {{BotTrial|edits=50}}, you actually added {{BotTrial|edits=20}} to the page. Since 50 edits seems to be the norm, I was wondering if this was a typo. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I decided to require a little shorter trial because I didn't know how long it will take to get 20 test-cases and that should be representative. I copied the header template and changed it in the edit, but not the edit summary. Sorry for the confusion. MBisanz talk 23:21, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Ask to restore page "KLone (web server)"

Hi,

Could you restore the page "KLone (web server)" you have deleted ?

You say you don't find any source of the program, see this list :

- http://john.freml.in/teepeedee2-vs-klone - http://www.gnutoolbox.com/klone/ - http://packages.debian.org/fr/sid/klone - https://github.com/koanlogic/klone - http://linuxappfinder.com/package/klone - http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/KLone ...

Thanks to revert your deletion

I'm sorry, but I'm declining your request as it appears the sources are still self-published. You may appeal at WP:DRV. MBisanz talk 13:12, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

User renaming

Hi MBisanz, thanks for the renaming. Please could you do the same over at Wikimedia Commons and Meta? --Rob Kam (talk) 19:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm sorry though, I'm not a bureaucrat on those projects, so I can't rename you there. MBisanz talk 20:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hitler (retail store). Bearian (talk) 19:56, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! MBisanz talk 21:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

A recent user change

Hi, I noticed that you made the following change on 31 March:

(User rename log); 17:09 . . MBisanz (talk | contribs | block) renamed user Dr SPWright (981 edits) to Neuropsychiatry (WP:CHU)

Any idea why user:Dr SPWright later reclaimed his old user page? It looks wrong that it is in use as well as User:Neuropsychiatry, especially as the areas of interest overlap. Please check and advise the user to merge & redirect the old user page if appropriate, as I think it would be. – Fayenatic London 20:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 21:46, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Many thanks for the username change! XtremD (talk) 23:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Bot prodding diplomats

Hi MBisanz, I have some serious concerns about the proposed bulk-PROD feature for Rileybot, for which you authorized a trial. I've added them to the discussion here: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RileyBot 10. Pburka (talk) 06:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I trialed it to see if it will work, but if it doesn't have consensus, it won't be approved. MBisanz talk 02:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of non-active AWB users

I saw your message a few months back about deleting inactive AWB users. I've gone ahead and removed the users. I've also asked Legoktm to run a report for all users that haven't been active since January 1, 2012. I'll remove those users as well. I've already removed the bots that haven't been active since January 2012. Bgwhite (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! MBisanz talk 02:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks...

...for attending to my name-change request so quickly! Markus Pössel (talk) 09:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

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Username change didn't complete?

I requested a username change on March 27. You approved it quickly, but two weeks later the name still hasn't changed. Has something gone wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mowerm (talk • contribs) 18:39, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

It was done here. You need to log into your new name using your old password. MBisanz talk 22:09, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I see, case sensitive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDMower (talk • contribs) 07:35, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Adam Swandi

Hello, is this where I ask for the page to be userfied? I did not log in to catch the end of the debate. Thank you! Icedwater (talk) 11:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I've put it at User:Icedwater/Adam Swandi. MBisanz talk 18:18, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick response. Icedwater (talk) 01:39, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Request bot flag be removed

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-68.107.137.178 (talk) 15:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Speaking of bludgeoning, could I just discuss this with others?

Let's keep this at WT:BN.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

You have made your opinion of me and IP editors so incredibly clear. Please, just change Wikipedia policy and get rid of IP editors; stop taking it out on me and my participation in RFBA.

I requested that the flag be reviewed as it was improperly granted. The BN board is the proper place for that.

Go change bot policy if you don't like people asking you to follow it. -68.107.137.178 (talk) 18:34, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetups on April 19 and 20

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We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! Kirill [talk] 20:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Articles for deletion: Embassy of Honduras, Ottawa

Hi.

You deleted Embassy of Honduras, Ottawa apparently as a result of an deletion discussion which included a few other articles. You have not deleted any of the other, and you have not 'closed' the related AfD page. Would you care to clarify? Thanks - Nabla (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

My close was based on the group nom at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ottawa. MBisanz talk 22:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for successful usurpation

    Thank you for your work with usurpations. When will my old account be deleted? I can still login via the old account. I would be glad to see the old talk-page be deleted, too (so if anyone visits the page, it comes up with "Create a new page"). Also, there are a couple of edit histories that say "Undid revision by [old name here]" while the edit history now has the new name making the undone edits. (Yes, a couple of my revisions were undone, but in doing so, I provoked the other editor to make the page better than any of us originally intended). Perhaps that edit summary text can also be changed? [3]
Thank you,
Techie007 (talk) 11:37, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Your old account can't be deleted. Just don't log into it anymore. I've deleted the redirect, but can't change edit summaries. Sorry. MBisanz talk 22:09, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Sysop

Hey Matt, can you remove my sysop bits, I do not wish to be an admin or to edit Wikipedia any further. Dreadstar ☥ 00:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

If you can, indef block my account too. Dreadstar ☥ 00:10, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

{{hangon}} .. can we have that customary 24 hour wait thing first please. Maybe a good night's sleep. I really don't want to lose an editor and admin of this quality. — Ched :  ?  00:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll do all of that when I get up tomorrow because I want to give you a chance to think things over, but yes. MBisanz talk 00:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
We wouldn't have this perpetual problem of losing good editors if it weren't so hard to control the bad elements of wiki. PumpkinSky talk 00:19, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
In the immortal words of Luke Skywalker, "I have a very bad feeling about this." Dreadstar has indef-blocked himself, obviously (see his block log). We can't risk losing a good editor and administrator who has some petty issues but when the going gets tough, the tough get going. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Also, just in case everyone doesn't know, I gave Dreadstar a barnstar for his efforts to Wikipedia. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
This is a travesty; Dreadstar is one of the most consistently-solid-judgement admins we have. I've never seen anyone but the trolls go after him, but he does attract a lot of trolls. He's one of the few with the guts to go after these morons. I feel so bad that someone got to him and hope he will be willing to come back later. Montanabw(talk) 16:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I had my fair share of detractors, but I feel especially devastated when a good user such as Dreadstar is driven off of Wikipedia by abusive editors and/or trolls. I go after some of these trolls too, even though I am not an administrator and have bern involved for 6 years to primarily improve Wikipedia. I hope Dreadstar would be willing to come back later and regain his sysop access, but I can understand why he decided to pack it in. He has my sympathies. An administrator's gotta do what an an administrator's gotta do, eh? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Sleeping over it: do you think that he thinks that expressions of being missed make his talk "unclean"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, he made it quite clear via email that he wanted a blank talk page. MBisanz talk 00:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
That mostly makes sense to me... Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Quoting myself: "The word "clean" has a ring of "lifeless" and "empty" at present, sorry that is personal, see history of User talk:Dreadstar, compare top of my user, - I miss the one who created the greatest award I know, a year ago and remembered" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Sigh... That's too bad that this had to happen to Dreadstar due to his recent involvement. He did attract a lot of trolls. I was trolled by a couple of sockpuppeteers myself, namely Fragments of Jade, Yourname and Zhoban, and dealing with them was pretty stressful. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:35, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick rename!

– 296.x (talk) 16:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Rename

Please change my name, i submitted the request. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bozon1 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Same IP

You wanna block me for violating some policy while simultaneously declaring me a wikilawyer for asking editors to stay within policies, or just trying to get another block so I can stop contributing to WP:RFBA? -68.107.137.178 (talk) 16:26, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I think you're taking advantage of rotating IP addresses to disperse your wikilawyering activities so that other editors won't realize you're the same person starting all of these unproductive threads. I think your conduct is in violation of the final bullet point of this section of the socking policy. I think a number of people have commented on your actions are difficult to follow and your continued insistence on pursuing the same behavior seems to be running into willful blindness, if not actual intent, of acting deceptively under multiple identities. MBisanz talk 00:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
If you really thought that, you would have provided diffs in the appropriate places, instead of calling me a wikilawyer all over user talk space, although I do thank you for complimenting me on my lawyering skills. I can't really think of anything at all to say. Yawn. -68.107.137.178 (talk) 08:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I did think of something to say. I read where Jimbo once said it is better not to have an article than to have a wrong article. You could edit Detachment fold to remove a wrong article; the editors made them thrust faults and mix up stress and strain. A one sentence stub would be better than having an incorrect article being sent into cyberspace by Wikipedia. -68.107.137.178 (talk) 08:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:BRfA: User:NekoBot

Hey, sorry for running you about last time I tried to get User:NekoBot re-approved, an incident came up which meant I had to take an almost immediate Wikibreak due to it and wasn't able to get back in response to my request. I'll try and poll it (or just make a note on the existing talk page edit at WP:AN3) to see if it's still required. To get to my point, would you see a need for the bot to try and assist with additional information and backlog management, and if so, is there anything you feel should be added/changed from the last BRfA? + Crashdoom Talk 09:12, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't think anything needs to be added or changed. I would just want you to leave a link to the re-approval at Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring asking people to comment if they think the bot is still a good idea. MBisanz talk 13:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Help with Usernames

Hi, You kindly changed my username yesterday - thank you. I signed in this morning with my previous username (which still works) and edited an article. I thought my new username would have appeared in the edit but it hasn't. Please can you remove my previous username from the edited article? JCinfo 10:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but we can't change edits once their done, so in the future, just log into your new name to make all edits. MBisanz talk 13:00, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


Hi, I don't want you to change the edit, I would just like my new user name to appear on the edit I did this morning as all the old edit have changed over to my new user name. Could you do that please? JCinfo 14:07, 22 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JC-Edits (talk • contribs)

Where did you do the edit this morning? I can't see anything under your old username. MBisanz talk 14:12, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


Thanks so much for you help: my old user name was JC-QPCS - or do you need page number? JCinfo 14:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JC-Edits (talk • contribs)

Yes please. MBisanz talk 14:47, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_Park_Community_School I would also be grateful for advice on possible vandalism that has been occuring. Many thanks JCinfo 14:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JC-Edits (talk • contribs)

Ok, having reviewed the entry, it is not possible to have your new username appear on an old edit. MBisanz talk 14:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thank you but I am still left confused as all my old edits have changed over to my new user name.JCinfo 15:00, 22 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JC-Edits (talk • contribs)

Old edits move over when the new name is created, but the system doesn't let us move edits between existing names. MBisanz talk 15:14, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Articles for deletion: Angelo Antonio Toriello

Hi. I hope you can recollect this article which was deleted as no much internet independent verification sources of achievement were found. I just got these links sent to me by some users. Are those considered pertinent as independent verification sources to revert back the article submission? Kindly advice as we trust in your impartial and fair advices. Thanks. DrKlain (talk) 15:49, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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  • MBisanz has asked me to comment on this matter as I was the editor who originally nominated Angelo Antonio Toriello for deletion (see WP:Articles for deletion/Angelo Antonio Toriello). At the time, I nominated the article for deletion because the sources seemed very scant considering the accomplishments claimed in the article. The article claimed (as I am reminded by the version of the article retained in User:DrKlain/Angelo Antonio Toriello) that Toriello was, among other things, a key figure in exposing the priest sex scandal among Italian priests, a leader in an organization named COSINT, and was an ambassador at large for the Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe. Surely, such a figure would have made a fairly impressive footprint on the internet, and yet the sources to be found were all highly questionable: blogs in obscure websites, self-published images of newspaper articles, Flikr photo streams. The Flikr reference was the one that tipped me off that this whole thing might be an elaborate hoax: it includes pictures of Toriello in various historic settings in what is quite obviously a "Forrest Gump"-like experimentation in photoshop. Toriello is shown with historic figures in pictures that appear to date back to the 30s and 40s, despite the fact that Toriello was born in 1962. Given my suspicions about the veracity of the article, I did a very extensive search to find any sources that mentioned this gentleman, and found non other than his own self-published materials.
Coming to the present, I find that the current list of sources is little better than what was previously offered.
  • ISARTORP appears to be known only through the press release published by Toriello;
  • [10], [11] and [12] all point to the same story: a story promoting Toriello's work with CoSint and as special envoy from Sao Tome;
  • [13] and [14] are both links to the same video, made by Toriello and posted on the Sonia Gandhi site.
First, I am always skeptical when editors pack multiple references to the same story -- that already makes me suspicious that they are trying to skew the appearance of legitimacy for the article. Second, the press release and the video can be put aside as self-published sources (one can only wonder why Sonia Gandhi's people chose to include it on their website). Finally we are left with the APA story about Toriello's role in CoSint and as special ambassador. I suppose we are left to assess the validity of this news source. If we choose to accept that they are a reliable source, then I suppose we can allow that single source to be used to write an article that Toriello is the leader of CoSint and special envoy from Sao Tome. But given that this is the only reliable source (and I question its reliability, but have nothing but my own suspicions to base that on), I don't know that a viable article can be build on a single source. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Based on WikiDan's input, I'm sorry, but the article is still unable to be published. MBisanz talk 14:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
  • I dont want to fall in the same arguing vicious circle, so let's keep accepting for "true" what WikiDan61 keep stating, but I'm still so surprise to see a such "inquisitive" and "distrusting" mentality be ruling Wikipedia's method of assessing articles. Kindly, MBisanz, tell me on what concrete bases and evidences WikiDan61 is stating that all this is an elaborated hoax, SELF-PUBLISHED IMAGES OF NEWS ARTICLES, and now SELF-MADE videos published in some independent web site of India? Just because someone has published some photoshopped pictures in a 30s 40s style about Toriello? Could not be those be published by someone else? Why to accuse someone of self-publishing things without proper evidences and may be the person accused knows nothing? Are someone of you SENIOR EDITORS fairly and impartially investigating cases, and for the instance in the Toriello's case, by contacting the Democratic Republic of Sao Tomé and Prinicipe, or the COSINT, or these websites publishing Toriello's videos, or APA news agency or any relevant newspapers? On what really are based your assertions and assessments? By just seating behind your desktop and browsing the net, as internet is the only truth? And what about is it not found on the net and does not exist on internet is what....FAKE??? Kindly MBisanz, is it you editors case's assessment a thoroughness and impartial journalistic work?? Please explain it to me as I can't understand such approximative and superficial ATTITUDE to assess cases, although I strongly support cases missing WP:GNG, therefore, again I wish to say that if Toriello's article follows in such case, no problem at all, but I cant accept accusations of scam moved towards people without any verified evidence. DrKlain (talk) 10:06, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
    • DrKlain, you are the one who posted the Flikr reference on User:DrKlain/Angelo Antonio Toriello, (permalink) and the Flikr page is owned by a user named "Inparadox", a company associated with Toriello, as I recall the original article content. So please don't be so disingenuous as to no claim that these odd hoaxish pictures are the work of someone else. My point remains that if Toriello were as accomplished as the article states, we wouldn't need to rely such sketchy sources. We should be able to find a mention of his appointment by the government of Sao Tome, but we cannot. We should be able to find some reliable information about COSINT, but we can't. This has all been hashed and rehashed, but more editors than just me, at the original AFD. And yes, "inquisitive" and "distrusting" are some of the qualities that govern the review process at Wikipedia. Since we try very hard to prevent untruths from creeping into the encyclopedia, articles are reviewed for factual accuracy, and sources are checked. When they are found wanting, articles are deleted. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

deleted Page

Hello my user name is maloneth. Last December you deleted my page Nic Herron-Webb because he was not notable enough. I think that there should be consideration for the fact that he was a member of the Ultimate Fighter Cast which seems like it should count for something. He has also fought two fighters who were in the UFC, namely Julio Paulino and Rob Yundt. He also beat a Bellator veteran to get into the Ultimate Fighter House. Is there any wan to get this reconsidered? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maloneth (talk • contribs) 22:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you can put those facts at WP:DRV to have it reconsidered. MBisanz talk 12:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

The {{Inactdis}} tag in WP:DIAGRAM

I was reading over the text and history of the guidelines in WP:DIAGRAM but noticed that the page had an {{Inactdis}} tag placed on the top of it. Further research indicated that you were the one who put it there, so I am contacting you. Was this page superseded by another page? Are there any accepted guidelines in place for making maps and diagrams on Wikipedia? Can you fill me in on the discussion? I looked over the talk page but came up with nothing to explain it. Thanks!!! KDS4444Talk 08:04, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

It was never a guideline because it was only a proposal, which is why I changed it to inactive after a year+ as a proposal. I think the only guideline of generally applicability would be Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Images#Choosing_images. I'm sorry, but I don't have any further background on the topic. MBisanz talk 12:59, 22 April 2013 (UTf
That makes sense. So if I were interested in re-initiating the proposal and maybe seeing it through to becoming a set of guidelines, do you know what the procedure would be? I am interested in seeing Wikipedia have a set of guidelines for editors creating diagrams and maps-- not because I think I know what these guidelines should be, but because as a person who has generated several diagrams for Wikipedia, I was never sure just how to proceed and ended up making some poor choices that a set of guidelines would likely have prevented. Please let me know how I might go about setting this up. Thanks! KDS4444Talk 05:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
The steps would be bring it up at WP:VPR to see if people agree we need a new policy/guideline. Then draft a new page, either on top of the old page or at a new title. Usually pages dealing with formatting/style go at WP:Manual of Style/X and pages dealing with behavior/content go at WP:X Policy. Then list it at WP:RFC and link it at WP:VPP to see if the community supports the new policy/guideline. After being listed 30 days, an uninvolved party will close it and determine if it should be enacted. MBisanz talk 22:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Redubbing offensively-monikered users

Hi MBisanz. As you're one of the more active editors at WP:CHU, I wonder whether you could satisfy my curiosity on something. I've just blocked this delightfully-titled account, and wondered if there was any precedent for forcibly renaming such editors (i.e. renaming their account something innocuous without them filing a request). I'm guessing not, and I can't find anything in the username policy to suggest otherwise, but I thought I'd check with someone who's more experienced with username processes. Note that I'm not requesting the account be renamed (or planning to make such a request), just musing on whether such a thing has ever been done before, or whether there's any specific prohibition against it. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 09:34, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I've globally suppressed the account, but if for some reason I couldn't do that, I would agree with renaming. MBisanz talk 12:11, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
I didn't realise you could apply suppression to actual accounts, you learn something new every day. Thanks for the reply. Yunshui 雲‍水 07:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You left this note on User talk:Lawrence Cohen in 2008.

That wiki-ID initiated {{afd}} so frivolous that in my opinion they were tantamount to vandalism -- like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zahid Al-Sheikh.

Lawrence Cohen nominated three articles for deletion, at the same time, using identical wording. That identical wording identified Zahid Al-Sheikh as just another Guantanamo captive.

Lawrence Cohen could only have made this mistake if he had never even bothered to read the article in question.

These three {{afd}} show how terribly vulnerable our discussions are to groupthink, as several of the participants praise Cohen for his excellent research when he clearly hadn't even bothered to read the article! When I pointed out that Zahid Al-Sheikh had never been a Guantanamo captive, none of the participants who based their delete on his status at Guantanamo owned up so lazy they took the assertions in the flawed nomination at face value.

The reason I am writing to you today is that my contributions continue to be the target of frivolous {{afd}} by contributors who can't be bothered to comply with WP:BEFORE. So, if you don't think it is a violation of his privacy, can you tell me whether the new wiki-ID Lawrence Cohen adopted in 2008 is still active today?

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 18:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

LC didn't tell me at the time what his new identity would be, just that he would make one. I don't know who he now is or if he is still editing. MBisanz talk 22:16, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the quick reply. Geo Swan (talk) 01:13, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 22 April 2013

Rename Troubles

Hey, RandomDSdevel here; I just wanted to let you know that I think I accidentally recreated my old account this afternoon when I logged in because of how its credentials were still stored in a browser cookie from yesterday which existed because I forgot to log out of my Wikipedia/universal account. If there's any way that you can fix this, could you let me know on my talk page?
Thanks, 
RandomDSdevel (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey, it's me again; I just wanted to let you know that I replied to the message that you posted on my talk page in response to my request that you ping me when you replied to the message that I posted here. Can we continue our discussion over at my place?
— RandomDSdevel (talk) 14:58, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

It is somehow quite refreshing to have gone through that; thank you for your understanding and your assistance! Dreadstar ☥ 23:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

List of programmes broadcast by MediaCorp Channel 8

Hello, I was wondering if you could provide the text of this article you deleted so I can see if I can fix it to comply with guidelines. I'm confused over its deletion because I'm pretty sure it's a notable/historically-significant list, but I can't say for sure without being able to view the text. -ryand 11:58, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sent via email. MBisanz talk 12:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. What do you think should be done to make this a viable article again? From what I can see, I'm not sure why it was deleted as opposed to just cleaned up - there are countless articles on Wikipedia which are lists of programmes by broadcaster. What I do see is that it is a sprawling collection of information that can be cleaned up, formatted, and divided into sub-articles. I can do that, but it would help if the article was recreated. Could you also let me know who was the user who created/did most of the work on this article? -ryand 12:37, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I've seen a lot of those lists get deleted over the years as being indiscriminate lists that are simply directories, even if they are useful to viewers as directories. You might ask Michig (talk · contribs) for help. The page had 2,900 edits, so there is no single dominant editor, but Seletar (talk · contribs) worked on it for a long time. MBisanz talk 22:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for your help! -ryand 17:23, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Precious again

best face to the world
Thank you for inspirational high standards, in your featured coverage of educational institutions and in general, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (3 January 2009, 28 April 2009)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 112th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Aww, thanks. Happy editing. MBisanz talk 12:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Block evasion question

Hi, Matthew. I recently blocked User:KikeFolan indefinitely because of their user name. According to another editor, the blocked user has been editing as an IP. Assuming the allegation is true, should the IP be blocked for block evasion? WP:EVASION has broad language but doesn't address this specific situation. But it seems odd to me. I didn't block the user for doing anything disruptive, only for editing under an offensive user name. If the user chooses not to request a name change but to edit as an IP, unless there's an independent reason to block the IP, it strikes me as counterintuitive to block them. Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:03, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

If the username isn't offensive (i.e., if it gets {{usernameblock}} instead of {{usernamehardblock}}), the account block should be a soft-block and IP-editing should be permitted. MBisanz talk 23:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, that's a bit of a problem. I used the soft block, but only because I wasn't aware of the hard block template, and the soft block template uses the "offensive" aspect of the policy in its language. So, I suppose a threshold question is which template should I have used with this user name? Frankly, I found the user name offensive but also odd. For example, if it had said something like kike152 or downwithkikes, it would have been easy, but it was almost like it was a person's name with "kike" being the first name and "folan" being the last name. But who names their kid kike? Anyway, for that reason, if you look at the user's talk page, I asked them about the user name before blocking them. When they didn't respond but continued to edit, I blocked them.
Under this account, they've made only 164 edits, all to article space, and pretty much all to wrestling articles (something I know nothing about). They've received two warnings for adding unsourced material, and one warning for edit warring. In looking at just a few of their edits, I don't see any anti-semitic or even political material. Whether they're a positive contributor to the articles I have no idea.
So, with all that information, what would you do at this point if anything? I'm also curious which kind of block you would have imposed, or even whether you would have blocked at all. Sorry for being long-winded.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I would just leave it the way it is. I probably would have hardblocked, but maybe softblocked because of the FirstnameLastname aspect. You were right to block when he was non-responsive. He seems like your standard inept new user and editing under an IP won't hurt anything major that wouldn't have been hurt by a redlinked account (because our wrestling articles are so well written </sarcasm>). MBisanz talk 00:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
LOL, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually, per Kike (disambiguation), "Kike" is a Spanish name and it's unfortunate that we have a coincidence, but we don't block users with Indian names just because they happen to contain "shit" in them, for example. As you can see at Special:CentralAuth/KikeFolan, the account was initially registered on eswiki. I've taken the liberty to unblock him, but left in place your suggestion that a username change may be advisable to avoid causing offense to English speakers. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:16, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Yeah... Thanks for catching that. MBisanz talk 23:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Same from me, King of Hearts. Nicely done.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Removal of the topic about Eliyahu Comay

Hi. I received a message yesterday saying that the wiki topic "Eliyahu Comay" is a candidate for deletion and today I noticed that it was removed by you.

I cannot see the article anymore, but I can tell you that the reasons for deletion, as I read in the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Eliyahu_Comay are not justified.

Let me answer the most important problems that were raised there:

1. The sources are "fringe". The main articles of Eliyahu Comay were published in Il Nuovo Cimento (1984, 1995) which is a very respectable publication source. Most of the nobel prize winners published in this journal, including Gell-Mann (1969 nobel prize) Gross (2004 nobel prize) and many many others. The other important article, a very long review article about his theory was published in 2012 by the Electronic Journal of Theoretical Physics. This is obviously not a fringe source.

By the way - all the sources in this topic are peer reviewed sources.

2. Someone who claims that he is not a physicist said that I changed two topics ("proton spin crisis" and "Vector Meson Dominance") in order to serve a purpose (which I do not understand). I can tell you what the purpose was. The purpose was to let wikipedia readers to know about these two important topics. Everyone, as I can see in the talk page, agree that these are highly important topics. Now, if you will look in the history of these two topics, you will see that: a) The "Vector Meson Dominance" topic included only one vague sentence before I edited the topic. I'm the one who made it understandable and readable. I think it was a big contribution to wikipedia readers. Don't you agree? b) The "proton spin crisis". This unsolved question is listed in wikipedia as one of the most important unsolved questions in physics. Before my edit, it was hidden as a short paragraph in another article about "nucleon spin structure". Don't you agree that this topic deserves much more than a short hidden paragraph?

Even if you believe that there are more problems, please un-delete the topic and let's communicate until all problems are solved. Thank you. Ofercomay (talk) 07:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the community discussion was quite clear. You can request undeletion at WP:DRV. MBisanz talk 23:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Changing username

Hi there, I placed a request to change my username from sofeshue to FootballStatWhore. You commented that the last world in the new username is a unnecessarily profane. Actually Stat whore it is just an internet term to describe those fanatic with statistics (just like me...); it may have some pejorative notion, but is by no means a profane. Also, if you do a search of usernames, many of them contain "whore". So if I wish, I could simply create a new account FootballStatWhore. However, my old contributions under Sofeshue will not appear in the new one. That is why I want to change the current name instead of creating a new one. Please complete my request. Thanks. Sofeshue (talk) 07:34, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 April 2013

Forced user renames coming soon for SUL

Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 13:06, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I only know English. MBisanz talk 16:47, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adil al-Jazeeri, as delete. This {{afd}} was initiated by User:MSJapan. MSJapan used to never leave a heads-up on the talk page of the article creator. I am glad to see they now do so.

In this case MSJapan did leave the recommended heads-up on User talk:Sherurcij -- who left the project years earlier.

Sherurcij could be an excellent researcher. Much of his contributions date back to a time when the wikipedia's standards and policies were looser -- so, while he may have complied with the standards current when the articles were started, some of the articles he started don't measure up to today's standards. I believe that some of the articles Sherurcij started could be improved, with added references, so they did measure up to today's standards.

Therefore, would you temporarily userify the article, with its full history and talk page, to User:Geo Swan/Adil al-Jazeeri? If, after some web searches, I think it can't be brought up to our standards I will place a speedy deletion tag on it, within one week.

If I think there is an existing article it could be merged with, or redirected to, would you want to be advised, before I did that?

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 16:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done No need to notify me if it's just a redirect or merge. Thanks for stopping by. MBisanz talk 16:46, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm just going to add in here that I do not particularly appreciate insinuations being made about me on other people's talk pages, especially when it is not germane to the discussion. If that isn't ad hominem, then I have no idea what is, and I would greatly appreciate it if said user would be warned against such behavior. MSJapan (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

About future SUL finalisation

I'm asking for your help because it seems like bureaucrats of en-wiki are acquainted with the future changes better than others. Here are my questions:

  1. Will local renaming right stay with stewards or not? If not, what may a person do in order to rename their old account with different name into the new one that is also their and is already global (and even worse when the new account is already created automatically but has no edits)? Imagine that I have SUL "Absconditus" and few accounts in other WMF projects like de-wiki, en-wikt etc. left from my previous user names (e. g. River01, Anonim.one). If I want to rename them into my current user name, I will get it after finalisation?
  2. At present it is possible to usurp inactive (or those that have few vandal contributions) accounts; will it be impossible after finalisation in light of the statement "all user accounts must be global"? Absconditus 18:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Local renaming will stay with the stewards for a limited period of time to correct the situations you are describing in 1. It will be possible to do what you describe in 2, just at the global level. MBisanz talk 18:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Do you have any idea what rules will aplly for a global usurpation? I'm asking because local projects have various level of restrictions: de-wiki requires no edits at all for usurped one, ru-wiki allows usurpation of account with no more than 5 edits and so on. Absconditus 21:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
We don't know yet what the final rule will be. MBisanz talk 23:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, MBisanz. You have new messages at WP:USURP.
Message added 07:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Faizan -Let's talk! 07:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I see Will got your request. MBisanz talk 11:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Test, just a test

I wonder how many spambot monitoring systems are going to be tripped by this edit. Legoktm (talk) 23:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! MBisanz talk 23:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

User name change

I have requested a name for changing my username. Please, change it. Thank you.Prashant talk 14:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, May 11!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, May 11 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 23:14, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Unauthorized bot

I've raised an issue at WP:AN#Bot.3F regarding what appears to be an unauthorized bot. Can you look and take any necessary action? Since I don't deal with bots regularly, I felt it was better to drop it there, but it hasn't gotten much attention. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 00:05, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 03:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/P. Kalyanasundaram

Matthew, just a heads up in case you wish to comment based on your role as the closing admin in a previous iteration of this article in December 2012. The history is complex, and even as an admin, I had trouble sorting it out. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:14, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I'll pass. MBisanz talk 19:33, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 May 2013

User:Dheng21

There seems to be an SUL attached to this username. Could you remove it? There's no Wiki attached to it.—cyberpower ChatOnline 16:35, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

It gave me some weird error message, but it should be gone now. MBisanz talk 19:35, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks.—cyberpower ChatOffline 12:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

User:Jaubouin

Hi, concerning my request to change my user name from Jaubouin to Storm2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple#Jaubouin_.E2.86.92_Storm2005) you said the name was already in use on fr.wikipedia: indeed, that's me there as well. I requested a name change there, which they did, only I thought they would change the name as well on every other wiki (since I thought I used a single user login), but for any reason they didn't (or couldn't?). I thought I should again ask for a name change on each platform... What should I do to change all "Jaubouin"'s on every wikipedia to Storm2005? If the answer is everytime "not possible because Storm2005 exists already on fr.wiki" that will be tricky for me... Regards. --Jaubouin (talk) 09:28, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Nope, thanks for explaining. I've gone ahead and made the rename. MBisanz talk 14:33, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Amiram Goldblum

There are growing concerns that Amiram Goldblum is himself editing the article about him. He has two accounts: User:Rastiniak and User:רסטיניאק. Take a look at the this sockpuppet investigation. Also, read the following discussion. רסטיניאק has removed the POV tag from the article twice so far: 1 and 2. While I don't find this subject particularly interesting, I'm alarmed by the fact that Goldblum is fighting tooth and nail to get users who question the neutrality of his article to get blocked. I request you to help us determine whether the two accounts indeed belong to Goldblum. Nataev (talk) 11:32, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Please note that Nataev (talk · contribs) is posting this item on the talk pages of > a dozen admins. It might be instructive to investigate more deeply via his contribs as to why he is doing this -- I suggest that it has to do with his right-wing (Israeli) sympathies and his desire to smear Goldblum for being a leftist (on which [15]). Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Here we go again. This is the first time I have asked for help from a user who has access to CheckUser. Now Nomoskedasticity himself is calling me names. I don't know much about left-right politics. I have no interest about subjects related to Israel either. My sole problem is that Amiram Goldblum has written the entire article about himself. If doing so is acceptable on Wikipedia, then I have no problems with it. Nataev (talk) 11:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I'm sorry, but I don't use the checkuser tool because I'm on WP:AUSC. MBisanz talk 14:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Username change

You approved a username change from Ramseymediaworks (talk · contribs) to JoeRamsey417 (talk · contribs) on May 2. At that time, all edits previously credited to the former name were re-credited to the latter name. I note today that RamseyMediaWorks is editing again. Should the former name be blocked as inappropriate, allowing the user to edit only under the latter name? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, he should be warned and then blocked. MBisanz talk 14:35, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Gentle, non-templated warning given. Not being an admin, I won't be able to block if necessary, but hopefully, it needn't come to that. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks (I didn't realize you weren't). Let me know if he doesn't listen and I'll block him. MBisanz talk 14:40, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Warning

I invite you to strike your unwarranted threat to block an editor who requested a deletion review of this out-of-process closure. It is abundantly clear from the subsequent events that MZMcBride should not have substituted their judgement for that of the community by announcing a result to an AfD, which they started, less than four hours after it opened. WP:DRVPURPOSE is clear about the purpose of DRV; WP:Deletion process #Early closure is equally clear; and even the revised final outcome is a breach of normal process per WP:WITHDRAWN. Please review those guidelines and see if you can understand why it is perfectly proper for any editor to request a deletion review in the circumstances. If you don't agree with me, then I request you explain your administrative action in threatening a block for "an abuse of process" with reference to established policy showing what process was abused.

If, on reflection, you agree that any editor would be justified in requesting such a DRV, then you should withdraw your threat and perhaps even apologise to Andy. It is uncharacteristic of your usual good judgement to make a mistake like this, so please take my advice here in the spirit in which it was intended. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 17:39, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

The deletion review process was misused and abused. I thought this was pretty clear. Let me reiterate, as the point seems to have not gotten through still: process exists to serve Wikipedia, not the other way around. This was a completely reasonable outcome for the article. I say so. Everyone involved in the discussion says so. Several passing admins have said so. Both you and Andy seem intent to stir up drama where absolutely none exists. I'm curious to what end. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Excuse me for chiming in, but the block threat came as peremptory and uncharacteristic from such a respected user. That, I think, is now the issue.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I assumed this particular user's track record here (which includes over thirty blocks and a one-year ban) factored into the decision. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Less than four hours after its start, you closed your own AfD and announced your result. That is completely unacceptable and you know it. You are nothing so special - nor are any of us - that you get to break our agreed conventions. It's easy to say "it's the right action" when it's our own actions that we're examining, and it's disappointing that you don't understand that. "You say so" is the most arrogant piece of self delusion I've seen here for a long time. I'm involved and Hobit was involved and neither of us say so. You screwed up; Andy complained about it in the proper place; your pals here started bullying Andy to deflect from your mistakes. You need to learn to take some responsibility for your actions, and Matt needs to stop enabling your behaviour. --RexxS (talk) 21:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
        • Four hours or four days, it makes no difference to anyone capable of exercising common sense. As I said on my talk page, though I'll repeat it here: the page creator, page subject, and myself all agreed that a redirect was the best outcome for the article and I closed the deletion discussion as no longer being necessary. This doesn't preclude the article (or redirect) being re-nominated for deletion. This doesn't preclude the page one day being un-redirected and expanded. And such actions are certainly supported by policy and tradition here, despite your insinuations to the contrary.

          Your comments both here and on my talk page are idiotic and petulant. Please stop. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

          • Listen up, young man, and cut out the crap. AfD's run for seven days by default. Four days may be justifiable in some circumstances. Four hours for an AfD is completely unacceptable. Closing your own AfD is completely unacceptable. You don't get to make the decision about what's best in a debate you started - we might as well not have any procedures at all if that were the case. You also still can't see how wrong you are when you think that you're automatically right about whether the deletion discussion is necessary. Furthermore, I don't need some self-important script-kiddie like you with no experience of the world impugning my common sense. Nor for that matter do you do yourself any favours by calling me idiotic and petulant. If you can't defend up your actions under scrutiny, then be a man; own up to you mistakes; and apologise for them. Turning to ad hominem as a defence is the surest sign of having already conceded the issue. Matt, please accept my apologies for this unpleasantness on your talk page. I'm done with this one and I'll leave him to have the last futile word. --RexxS (talk) 23:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm more than happy to explain further now that I've gotten home.

First, look at Wikipedia:DELETE#Deletion_review. It says people should discuss first with the person who performed the action. As Regentspark noted in User_talk:MZMcBride#Dominic_McDevitt-Parks, Andy was not discussing it with MZM (or NYB). Andy was issuing demands for action, action that NYB warned him would be an abuse of process.

I didn't take into account Andy block log in warning him (at least to the extent he hadn't been blocked in the past for abuse of DRV), but I did take into account that he was an experienced user and that NYB had warned him it would be an abuse of process to file a DRV without discussing more. One of the signs of a violation listed at Wikipedia:DISRUPT#Signs_of_disruptive_editing is refusing to engage in consensus building. As NYB explained to Andy, he had not engaged NYB or MZM in a consensus building discussion, so to take it straight to DRV would be disruptive. Andy's response was not to resolve NYB's admonition, but rather to take it straight to DRV. That's not consensus building and is disruptive because it defeats the intent of having a person discuss a deletion before bringing it to DRV.

Now, if Andy had just happened into DRV without consulting MZM, that wouldn't necessarily be disruptive because he might not have realized he needed to discuss it first. But, given that NYB had told him it would be an abuse of process, to do so without resolving NYB's concerns is a problem. The flip side would be that if I had blocked Andy straight away, it could have been a bad block, but if I were to block Andy now while we're discussing it, it would also be a disruptive block because I'm doing so before fully engaging you on the issue. Another analogy would be that it if I was driving down an alley and clipped your car because it was too narrow, it might be a good faith mistake on my part, but if you were yelling at me as I entered the alley that it was too narrow for my car to fit and I kept going, it would be a different situation.

As to MZM being a pal of mine, yes, I've interacted with him to request technical reports, but he's never been particularly nice to me. Most of our interactions involve him making snide remarks about my competency or more generalized insults about my person. I believe I've now explained which policies I grounded my warning in. Can you explain why you think Andy is exempt from those policies? MBisanz talk 22:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

FWIW I was checking and the last time I can recall MZM and I being involved outside of requesting database reports was when he opposed me for steward. MBisanz talk 22:45, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your reasoned response, Matt. It is appreciated, and I wouldn't have expected any less from you. I do understand your position and I apologise for jumping to a conclusion about your involvement with MZM based on a single incident. I unreservedly withdraw that. Nevertheless, you base much of it on the assertion that "Andy was not discussing it with MZM", but I count three separate comments of Andy's on MZM's talk page attempting to persuade MZM to reverse his closure over a span of six and a half hours 16:27 – 21:36/21:36 – 22:51 before Andy took it to DRV (the middle two are effectively one edit where Andy thinks better of what he wrote). Now, I'm sure you're going to tell me that Andy is demanding, not debating, but I'm going to disagree even before you do. Andy wants MZM to revert his closure and he says so, along with clearly stating that he'll go to DRV otherwise at 16:27. He also unambiguously states that MZM was closing his own nomination after less than four hours debate. I don't know whether Brad didn't spot that Andy had enunciated those issues, or whether he thinks someone closing their own AfD after four hours is perfectly reasonable, but either way, I simply can't agree with his position that the DRV is abusive of process. Do you agree with my reasoning so far?
I'll concede immediately that Andy is very brusque in his approach to MZM, and I'd always prefer to be polite, but MZM can be insufferably self-righteous as you can see above (and on his talk page) and even I can't keep civil with him under those circumstances. Nevertheless, despite being a sub-par debate, the exchange on MZM's talk page is "debate" and Brad doesn't reply to Andy when he even more clearly states his objection at 21:51, leading me to conclude that Brad concedes the point. I have to disagree with Regentspark's assessment as well. It is a dangerous step to block editors effectively because you're not happy with their debating style.
In summary
An AfD nominator does his own closure after four hours - in-process or not?
An editor asks them to reverse that action; six hours later, after eight comments, the AfD nominator has not altered their position, so the editor opens a DRV even against advice - in-process or not?
I don't mind if you disagree with my interpretation, but I would object if you denied my interpretation was a reasonable position to hold. In those circumstances, I remain convinced that your threat to block was disproportionate and uncharacteristic. I still think you could have done better. Cheers, --RexxS (talk) 23:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your reasoned view. I definitely agree it's a reasonable position and would say the answer to both your questions is that they're out of process. In the first case because closing AFD is bad form and in the second case because opening a DRV while people are trying to talk to you is also bad form. Maybe I'm more concerned about process (and therefore act disproportionately to what people expect of me) because I've figured out that people don't change their behavior over time (like you've seen with MZM higher up on this page), so process and the block button are the only effective tools in my belt. I do appreciate you taking the time to try to see things from my perspective and giving me your own views. MBisanz talk 10:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 May 2013


Hi I'm new to this. Anyway, I was attending a conference on Africa and among many representative ambassador of different African countries was the ambassador at large of São Tomé &'Prinvipe Angelo Anttonio Toriello. During the conference then I googled his name just to see who was he as what he was stating was interesting, and among so many links I came across these links of deletion of his article which I think is incorrect, that's why I messaged you editors so you can check the person status on these link of the guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/the-report.

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AFDs

Hi. Somebody could help to submit this note to the right administrators which have deleted Angelo Antonio Toriello article as their decision was not correct and as I'm new to this I don't know how to submit my request properly. Anyway, I was attending a conference on Africa and among many representative ambassador of different African countries was the ambassador at large of São Tomé &'Prinvipe Angelo Anttonio Toriello. During the conference then I googled his name just to see who was he as what he was stating was interesting, and among so many links I came across these links of deletion of his article which I think is incorrect, that's why I messaged you editors so you can check the person status on these link of the guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/the-report.

Hi, I'm sorry you feel that way, but the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelo Antonio Toriello was quite clear. Please feel free to submit a new article at WP:AFC. MBisanz talk 01:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I am writing to request a review of the deletion of "Genealogical relationships of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom." This was a very interesting page, and I would like to see it restored on Wikipedia. In addition to the Paul Bloomfield citation, the Villiers information is also cited in George Malcolm Thomson's The Prime Ministers (1980). Thank you.

I'm sorry, but I must disagree as the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Genealogical_relationships_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom was clear that the level of coverage in sources, even those similar to what you describe, was insufficient. MBisanz talk 03:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Very well. Would you perhaps be able to advise on the User who provided the extensive original research for the page? I'm writing a book for which their work has been helpful and would like to try to contact them, or at least to credit their work, if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rclc (talk • contribs) 16:55, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I can do one better. I recreated it with the original authors' histories intact at User:Rclc/Genealogical relationships of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. MBisanz talk 00:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank-you for approving and making name change, much appreciated. FlatOut 01:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey MBisanz

A big problem has been created. I have forgotten my new created Pratyya's password but can remember the old name's password. So what'll I do. My most major wiki en wiki's been renamed to that account. So now if you can please revert the rename. Please you understand my situation. Help me. And answer me.--Pratyya Ghosh (talk) 13:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for stepping in on the conversation, I was watching the page after i made an entry earlier. Pratyya Ghosh have you tried resetting your password via this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset ? Hope this helps. Flat Out Let's discuss it 14:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
A hundred times and no luck. You better revert or undo what you done in changing my username please. Just like past. Do you have any options? Please?--Pratyya Ghosh (talk) 14:20, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I've undone the rename. Please let me know if that fixes it. MBisanz talk 02:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
I don't know how to that you. But you need to undelete some of my user subpage. Like my guestbook topicon, my talkpage. etc.--Pratyya (Hello!) 03:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Nevermind, I found where the system messed the up. Let me know if there are any other missing pages. MBisanz talk 04:05, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
User:Pratyya Ghosh/archive.--Pratyya (Hello!) 13:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering you again. I should have told you about these earlier. But couldn't. Anyway after it's done, please remove these subpages of mine from your user talk page. They'll unnecessarily make your talk page ugly. Also can you make my home wiki en.wiki here? --Pratyya (Hello!) 15:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Done, let me know if I missed any others. I'm sorry, but I can't change the home-wiki setting, that's beyond my technical powers. MBisanz talk 16:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

thanks

for the move.Dan Murphy (talk) 02:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure thing. MBisanz talk 02:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Question about RTV

When renaming a user as part of the RTV process, is it preferable to supress the summary of the revision that moved the page from the former username to the vanished one? That becomes the only "link" that can be easily used and I could understand the logic behind suppressing it from public view, but I'm unsure if it is part of the procedure, so I won't touch it for the time being. Thanks for clarifying. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 04:42, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah... I did that one only because he emailed me. I actually rarely do RTVs, so you're probably better off asking Avi or NihonJoe about the proper way to do it. Sorry. MBisanz talk 16:15, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review for Bristol/Bath to South Coast Study

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Bristol/Bath to South Coast Study. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Trevj (talk) 09:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Second opinion requested

Hi Matt. I wonder if I could quickly get your opinion on a user rename request? User:Queerboybait is currently requesting an unblock to change his name to User:Bitterqueer. I'm not sure which side of the fence to fall on with this - whilst an improvement, it still strikes me as somewhat antagonistic. I respect your opinion more than most when it comes to the username policy, so I was hoping you might be willing to offer your take on the proposed change. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 07:16, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, Jpgordon stepped in and unblocked. Yunshui 雲‍水 07:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 May 2013

Angelo Antonio Toriello

Hello MBisanz as I do not know how to submit an article, I took sometime before to reply you because I have gone through all this ambassador at-large Angelo Antonio Toriello article for deletion case. I see many defaults in it from the author side and editors side. But of course in the end of the day it is you EXPERT editors whom got the monopoly of it and therefore the final decision.....so just nothing new. Final decision is always in the hands of who in one or another way holds and controls power, either at the small or big games level; it doesn't matter! So lets stop these crapping about wikipedia FREE encyclopaedia. Said that let me tel my points although it doesn't matter to you EXPERT editors. DrKlain user in the end has resulted to being too pathetic because personally involved rather to stick to the Wikipedia guidelines, although he has submitted some true questions which haven't been answer by none of you EXPERT editors. User WikiDan61 a certain point became discriminative without proper graphic expertise and a fair investigation (as DrKlain user was saying just by seating at home and browsing Internet as it is a bible where to find the absolute truth about someone or something) by accusing the ambassador to be a big hoax just because some flicker pictures on the net were edited and the same of self publishing them without any doubt as he holds evidences of what he is stating. WikiDan61 please provide evidences of such accusation because one thing is to preserve Wikipedia from crap contents and which I fully support it, and another thing is to ruthlessly keep accusing someone to be a hoax. I have graphic expertise and gone through the pictures you pointed photoshopped which portrays Toriello in 30s poses. About these you are right. But about all others pictures and videos in the net portraying the ambassador in his official meeting with some other personalities, you are absolutely wrong as there is not sign of altering effects, may be just light, contrast and colour adjustment filters. In regards of the self publishing, anyone of his entourage could have open an account or start a website, but that doesn't mean that Toriello is directly or personally doing it even though he is the founder of those, in the same way that although Wikipedia was founded by Jimmy Wales doesn't mean that he is the responsible of its content. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us). Therefore you EXPERT editors try to be more neutral and respectful by sticking to your noble duties for contrasting rubbishness to preserve Wikipedia guidelines more than being ruddily judgemental as all the knowledge is in your hands. If some article doesn't much Wikipedia guidelines..... fine mate, delete it, but I don't see the reason of accusing people??? Who the hell are you people? Depository of truth or what? Anyway in the case of Toriello although the many inconsistencies there are few links which are an independent source of achievements and which you stubbornly refuse to accept them as genuine because of your prejudices towards the guy, rejecting all good about him but instead just demolishing those by stating: "I don't know how Toriello could manage to be published in some Indian webside with Sonia Gandhi, or on the APA news agency?" That's really discriminative mates!!!! WikiDan61 what about this link from The Guardian then? (http://www.theguardian.co.uk/the-report) Even this is fake? I read that FreeRangeFrog user stated that the only fact that an independent and reliable source of achievements would have proved that Toriello was an ambassador at-large of São Tomé, that would have been enough to let the article be published as it was matching the Wikipedia notability's guidelines. Are not The Guardian and APA African news agency reliable enough? I know that you EXPERT users won't take in consideration points from people like me but I hope that at least you will neutrality take in evaluation these links and do justice to the guy as no matter of what I was there attending the conference and witnessed the status of his position among other people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.55.39.39 (talk) 16:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the community decided to delete the Angelo Antonio Toriello article. I do not know anything about Mr. Toriello and certainly don't have a grudge against him, but the community discussed and decided the matter, so I implemented it. Please feel free to seek review at WP:DRV. MBisanz talk 04:13, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


Hello again MBisanz, though I don't agree with your decision to stick to your position about Angelo Antonio Toriello's deletion case, but I respect it, but i would like to highlight again the point that the guy circumstances have changed as there are at least 2 reliable sources for independent verification of achievements and notability according FreeRangeFrog user. Actually the guardian link itself is more than reliable to empower you EXPERT editors to revert back the decision in the same way you have implemented it. In fact, where are now WikiDan61, DrKlain, FreeRangeFrog? Why they don't comment on it? And where are some other EXPERT editors to cast their opinion and help to clear this case in neutral and unprejudiced manner? I understand that is not a easygoing case and in fact myself I would been skeptical if I was not there present at the conference where African ambassadors gathered together and Toriello was among them, but we are talking about the guardian here mates!! Anyway I don't have to convince anyone as the links itself confirm the status of the person, and though difficult for me I will try to seek review at your suggested link if no one will come to help. Pleas help me as well to contact the above users. Thanks mate! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.55.2.80 (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

MBisanz I tried to seek review of the Angelo Antonio Toriello article but it's to damn complex and moreover I don't have much information about the person. Could you or someone at least help to retrieve back the previous cancelled article so I could submit a new one or could DrKlain help to have it as he was the submitting user of the article? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.255.7 (talk) 13:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

He could try resubmitting it at WP:AFC. MBisanz talk 16:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I took the liberty of re-creating the article as a stub. The sticking point at the AFD was that we could not successfully source the fact that Mr. Torrielo was an accredited diplomat - since The Guardian is a reliable source we'll assume that they did so. That plus the existing sources (many of them Italian and French) I think are enough to establish notability under WP:BIO. To the anonymous editor - you may comment in my talk page if necessary. MBisanz was only involved in this because he was the admin that closed the deletion discussion. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. That sounds great. MBisanz talk 17:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Undeletion Request

Greetings, I'd like to ask you to consider undeleting the article Pat Zalewski. This article was the subject of an articles for deletion but the deletion was decided by including the vote of the now banned editor Quorty who has been shown to have been engaged in deleting articles on occult subjects simply on the basis of the nature of their content. See

[Wild Hunt Blog] [Llewellyn Blog]

I feel the Pat Zalewski article is a valuable article and that it meets the requirements for an acceptable article. Morgan Leigh | Talk 03:49, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll defer to User talk:Lankiveil. He participated in that discussion and would be better informed to make the call. MBisanz talk 16:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Rename question

I'm considering a banal rename to "Salvidrim!" and was wondering the impacts it might have on my SUL status (or anything else that may be of importance!). Can you offer any guidance? You're kind of the "rename expert" around here. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 06:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You would need to execute four renames (here, french, meta, and commons). You have under 10,000 edits, so it shouldn't break anything. The new SUL is free, you'll jut be assigned a SUL ID number (unless you're particularly wedded to 3442563, I am to my 554). Otherwise, you're good. MBisanz talk 16:45, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Naw, I don't care about the ID#. Would I need to request local renames or could you implement across the board? And for the other wikis on which I have edits, what would happen? When I first login using my new SUL name, it'd link, but the current edits would stay link to "Salvidrim"? I had plans to re-register the username as a doppelgänger but not to use it so I'm sure not what would happen, basically another SUL would automatically link all the non-renamed local accounts? And yea, I've been contemplating it for a long while, but now that I'm closing in on 10K I'd like to see it done before. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 16:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
You'd have to request the four locally (and if you cared about one or two edit wikis, then those too). When I do the rename, it won't create a new SUL, so just avoid creating the SUL until the other renames are done and it won't trigger auto-creation of accounts. Re-registering as a doppelganger won't affect the process. MBisanz talk 17:01, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Having to request the renames locally is a pain. Especially on fr.wiki 'cause I just don't know my way around it... maybe I'll hit up a 'crat directly. How can I avoid "creating the SUL"? Can you point me to the meta & commons rename venue? :) :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 17:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah... We're looking to fix the local renames part in August, but only for accounts with under 5,000 renames. To avoid creating an SUL, just don't register any new accounts and don't visit Special:MergeAccount until after all the renames are done. Meta renames are at meta:Meta:Changing username and Commons is at commons:Commons:Changing username. You can probably find the pages for French and other wikis at meta:Index of pages where renaming can be requested. MBisanz talk 17:54, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, sorry for being so demanding. I'll have the other ones done first and will hit you back when ready for the grand finale. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 18:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Ramseymediaworks again

Matt, I contacted you a few weeks ago about Ramseymediaworks (talk · contribs) (check User talk:MBisanz/Archive 17). He was a user who had been warned about his COI username, and had then requested and been granted a user name change (to JoeRamsey417 (talk · contribs)), but then edited again under the old name. At that time (14 May) I gently warned him that he should no longer use the COI name. Today I see more edits under the COI name. I believe a block of the COI name is in order to remind him that he should really be using his new username. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 16:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

XFF project

I'm having difficulties finding anyone to talk to about configuring an Opera range (or any range, for that matter) as a trusted XFF range. E-mails to xff@wikimedia.org go unacknowledged, as do messages at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:XFF_project. Any clues?—Kww(talk) 16:56, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I can drop an email to func-en or stewards-l. They're likely to know that thing. Also MZMcBride (talk · contribs) probably know. MBisanz talk 16:58, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Please do. I'll ask MZMcBride.—Kww(talk) 16:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48791 .—Kww(talk) 17:18, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Follow-up question to WP:DIAGRAM inquiry

Hello there. You helped me out awhile back regarding some questions I had about the {{inacdis}} tag on the WP:DIAGRAM proposal which ended up being, er, stillborn (your Archive 17, entry 88). I had just one more question and then I will be out of your hair on this:

You stated: "The steps would be bring it up at WP:VPR to see if people agree we need a new policy/guideline. Then draft a new page, either on top of the old page or at a new title. Usually pages dealing with formatting/style go at WP:Manual of Style/X and pages dealing with behavior/content go at WP:X Policy. Then list it at WP:RFC and link it at WP:VPP to see if the community supports the new policy/guideline."

Which was exactly what I wanted to know (and for which I am very grateful). My question now is this: do I need to have a set of guidelines pre-generated and ready for community critique before I do any of this? Or can I begin the business by expressing a desire for the revival of a discussion and then see what sort of input/ response I get before drafting actual guidelines? I am hesitant to spend the considerable amount of time necessary to create some guidelines if it becomes clear that there won't be any chance of those guidelines coming to fruition (though I am totally prepared to do so if they are). But I also don't want to enter a discussion and then have someone ask me, "Well, where are your proposed guidelines?" and have nothing to show them. Bottom line: how far along do I need to be with the development of some guidelines before I put the idea of instating them to the Village Pump et al.? Please advise. Thanks! (Also: good luck with your administrator review— you certainly have my support, and please let me know if there is any venue in which I can express that support which will make any difference to anyone). KDS4444Talk 22:08, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Your proposal should developed enough to explain it to people, but doesn't need to be fully formed. If you go to VP with about 10 lines of text describing the problem and your general idea of a solution, people will either be supportive or tell you that your solution won't fix it. If they're supportive, you can draft a full proposal page and put a link in the VP discussion saying "Hey, I fully fleshed it out. Is this what you guys thought I meant by the initial 10 lines?" MBisanz talk 22:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Question about journal Fibreculture

Do you know who indexes the journal Fibreculture?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but don't. MBisanz talk 20:33, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Oh,,ok. Thanks anyway :) WhisperToMe (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Request to review deletion of Peter Russell

The page for Peter Russell (Author) (born 5/7/1946) has been removed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Russell_%28author%29 - and I would like to request its reinstatement on the following grounds:

The books that were compared to Amazon's ratings - "The Brain Book" and "Creative Manager" - were not his bestselling books and would not be expected to by high on Amazon's list today. (Although, the Brain Book was a New Your Post bestseller in 1982.)

His more notable works are "The Global Brain" which sold 100,000 copies, translated into more than a dozen languages and in its time was recognized as a leader in its field. It is virtually out of print now, so again would not be reflected in current Amazon charts. He is generally recognized as having coined the term "global brain" in that book, which forecast many aspects of the coming Internet. His video on the subject won international acclaim and during the eighties (Pre-YouTube) days was a popular showing at events around he world.

"One known book in a field" is inaccurate. Of his nine published books,4 continue to get attention and praise in their respective fields. "The Global Brain" "From Science to God" "Waking Up in Time" "The TM Technique" (still selling after 40 years).

That his work is frequently quoted in other books, and on the web, in citations that reflect mostly respect rather than marketing should also be considered.

A search on Google generally brings his name up before any other person of the same name. Obviously his own home page is near the top since it has high Google rankings (which alone should say he is not insignificant), further down you will many many references to his work that are clearly not self-marketing.

This is a case of a writer who was significant ten or twenty years ago, not appearing quite so significant today particularly in rankings based on sales at the moment. But that should not be grounds for deletion. The same would apply to many deceased authors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfrock (talk • contribs) 16:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Can you produce evidence of the international acclaim his video had in the 1980s or sources recognizing him as coining the term "global brain" or sources recognizing him as the leader in the field? MBisanz talk 18:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The video was awarded Gold Prize for Education and the Festival Grand Prix at the Swedish Public Relations A/V Festival, Stockholm, 1985. (No obvious web citation since this was pre-web days.)
Wikipedia/Global Brain[1] cites him as having coined the term 'global brain' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfrock (talk • contribs) 21:46, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but citing Wikipedia to show him as the source of a term isn't sufficient. Also, there should be some paper source from the mid-1980s, like a newspaper review for the award. There's also no evidence on the internet of the Swedish Festival (of 1985 or in the present), which is odd. I'll take these things to DRV if you want, but I just don't see enough there to restore the article. MBisanz talk 16:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Just recalled this. Ranked 21 on "100 Most Spiritually Influential People" [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfrock (talk • contribs) 20:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Username seems ready

I got all the local renames to "Salvidrim!" I wanted. Can you do the en.wiki one as soon as you have a moment? And are there any other needed steps for global rename other than logging in the new account and claiming the SUL? Cheers! :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 02:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Nope, just redirect your RFA to the new name so people can find your "record" easier. MBisanz talk 03:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh, also, don't log into the old or new name for 10 minutes from now. MBisanz talk 03:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 Done MBisanz talk 03:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Addshore

Hi Matt. My biggest reservation about addshores RfB is your silence. Why? From what I can tell, he is fine. Are more bureaucrats in the BAG desirable? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey Joe. More bureaucrats in BAG are definitely desirable and I advised Addshore in private that I think he would make a good bureaucrat if he ran. I try (and sometimes fail) not to comment at RFX to avoid the perception that the crats know better or are trying to stack the vote. In this case though, I would be 100% in support. MBisanz talk 22:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Tenmei/Enkyo2

It would seem to me that he's requested this name change to avoid implications involved with his involvements in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty and Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Senkaku Islands. Should those two cases' pages be amended to properly attribute the fact that he's changed his user name?—Ryulong (琉竜) 14:21, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I would ask a clerk. They know what's appropriate in this case. MBisanz talk 22:54, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
All right. I have posted on what I assume is the clerk noticeboard.—Ryulong (琉竜) 01:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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User:I Help When I Can and subpages

I think something messed up when you did the user rename from I Help When I Can back to IHelpWhenICan. I don't know if it was you or a bug in the MediaWiki software, but User:I Help When I Can (and the majority of its subpages) seem to be redirect loops. Just thought I'd notify you of this. Michaelm55 (talk) 17:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Hrm. User:Legoktm, help please. MBisanz talk 11:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

why did you delete the rendezvous tavern page. i first ate there in the 50. there is no doubt that the [;ace existed. Kipd (talk) 20:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rendezvous Tavern. MBisanz talk 02:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome message. 72.244.206.63 (talk) 05:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

OperaEdmonton user rename

Please check the new username User talk:KJones1989. He put a message saying he has trouble loging in. Maybe you can help him there? I do not know what it could be as I would assume the new name would use the same old password. -- Alexf(talk) 12:22, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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Your recent addition to perfect is the enemy of good is much appreciated. Please accept this less-than-perfect barnstar. Warden (talk) 08:27, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but I think you meant to send this to King of Tea Tree. MBisanz talk 09:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Facebook updates of Wikipedia articles

Hi MBisanz - I'm both a long-time Wiki editor and also a contributor to a Facebook group page with content that regularly links to FB pages created from Wikipedia articles. I've been trying to find out how & how often those FB pages are updated to reflect the current content of the matching Wikipedia articles. There's no way to get answers from Facebook about things like this, but I did locate a discussion that you took part in here on Wiki back in 2010 that approved a request to allow a Facebook bot to carry out automated updates on a daily basis. So at this point what I want to know is whether that arrangement is still in effect, or has it been superseded by something else? If you don't happen to know, perhaps you could suggest who might be able to provide the answer. Thanks! Cgingold (talk) 12:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The person to ask about this is Philippe (WMF) (talk · contribs) MBisanz talk 01:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, and Cgingold found me.  :) Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 02:05, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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When are you next poping onto IRC? :) ·addshore· talk to me! 01:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 01:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Keep missing you when your doing name changes . . .

Good evening! Seems every time I log on you have done a name change. I was just curious (if I'm even that far in the queue) what the next time you think you'll be on doing admin stuffs? Thanks EzPz (talk) 04:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

My schedule is very variable, so it's best to email me or leave me a note asking me to do something. MBisanz talk 17:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent M. Ward

Per a request by User:BOZ on my talk page, I have restored the article and moved it to the incubator. Could you check to see if I have done this correctly, thanks. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Thanks for the note. MBisanz talk 00:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
It seemed to me that I had to use a two step process. Wished to make sure it was correct. Thank you. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Matt. Based on some recent discussions I have quickly drafted this. It is in no way definitive, but the effort is to keep it very simple and on track. If you have time, you are most welcome to weigh in and develop this further on its talk page or tweak the draft until such times if and when a collaborative effort can be moved to RfC space. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:43, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Unsalting

Hey Matt. I'm interested in creating an article about a company but it appears the page name was salted as at some point there was spam on Wiki involving the company in question (Checkmarx). Anyway, they recently received a good amount of press coverage and I believe they now have the relevancy they lacked when the page was originally created. I was pointed to you by Teahouse, so I would appreciate any help you could give.

Thanks! :D Neo12345292 (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for stopping by. As the most recent deletion discussion was in April this year, I would prefer if you went to WP:DRV and submitted the new coverage for review, instead of unsalting it based on my own assessment of the press coverage. Thanks. MBisanz talk 04:10, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

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Can the everyone user can remove the content from their user talk pages? --Kolega2357 (talk) 19:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes. MBisanz talk 22:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi MBisanz. Question about the username change you made here, which renamed "andrewjosephpr" to "philipgorrivan". The previous issue was that the user (presumably the Andrew Joseph PR firm, which is why I left the original talk page note here) had been creating promotional material at the now-deleted Philip Gorrivan article, so the new username is still promotional as well. In this new username still acceptable? SpencerT♦C 18:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

From the deleted revisions, it appears that he is the subject of the article. Soooo, I'd AGF that it's ok for the subject to use his own name as a username, even if it happens to also be the name of his business. MBisanz talk 18:35, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Matthew,

Sorry to bug you ... You renamed my user (at my request) as per:

User talk:GLComputing has been moved on 22 July 2013 by MBisanz, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GLComputing for the current revision.

Editor's summary: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "GLComputing" to "GLC-Mike"

Some things that I've noticed weren't changed:

  1. My login name is still "GLComputing" - I assume this is the cause of the other issues
  2. Nothing transferred in my Watchlist
  3. Contributions from the left of User:GLC-Mike page work but, the Contributions link at the top of every page goes to User:GLComputing ... and it still shows GLComputing as the user there
  4. All preferences were wiped except email address
  5. Uploaded files still show the old user - see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Act!_Logo_2014.png

Is there a reason these didn't follow? Is there anything else that needs doing?

Thanks,

GLComputing (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

And I can see, in the Preview, it shows GLComputing

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by GLComputing (talk • contribs) 18:13, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

You need to log in using "GLC-Mike" on the login screen. MBisanz talk 02:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I wonder if you could give a second opinion on whether user:Previously_ScienceApologist has socked recently as, for example, user:Mj12hoaxwriter or user:Eliminatesoapboxing, as stated here.

Some relevant threads are here,here, and here. Cardamon (talk) 23:26, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm recused from acting towards him, so I'll decline. MBisanz talk 14:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Renaming of User:Thingol

Hi MBisanz, I have activated the unified login feature recently. Unfortunately my nickname Thingol is already in use in the English Wikipedia by another user, who has been inactive for nearly three years. A bureaucrat from the French wikipedia renamed his main account there today, see this talk page. Is it possible to rename his account here now too? --80.187.103.51 (talk) (Thingol from the German Wikipedia) 20:28, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I just stumbled upon the page Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations and moved my request there. :) --80.187.103.34 (talk) 19:43, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

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Question

Is it possible to usurp a global account with only 5 edits? If this is possible would it be only for the usurping of the Wikipedia account or is it possible to actually usurp the full global account. I asked to change my user name to what is now in my signature (first time using a sig) but it is a global account. It was suggested that you might know the aswers to some of this.--Mark Miller Just ask! WER TEA DR/N 07:41, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

It's possible to usurp the SUL, you just won't be able to edit it.wiki without getting a local usurp of the blocked account. I've deleted the SUL, so let me or another crat know if you want the rename. MBisanz talk 18:46, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I would like the rename. Do I need to register the global account myself? I had asked through simple name change but deleted the request when I decided to wait and check on the usurp possibility. User talk:Maxim asked me if I was still interested in the alternative name, but I checked here and saw that you had deleted the SUL and mentioned that to them and have not heard back. How should I proceed?--Mark Miller Just ask! WER TEA DR/N 20:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be anyone using "Mark Miller" now: see [17]. If you are fine with username, I can rename you as soon as you OK it. The global account should be made automatically when the rename is done. Maxim(talk) 20:51, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, please. I would like to be re-named Mark Miller.--Mark Miller Just ask! WER TEA DR/N 20:57, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Maxim! I was moving this week. MBisanz talk 16:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

S/

Hey Matt (and/or relevant talk-page stalkers). I was thinking that a redirect to Wiktionary would be useful here—as with so many other online terms that aren't encyclopedically notable, but may be frequently searched for here—but I see you create-protected it a few years ago. Might I ask why? There's no explanation in the protection logs. Thanks. — PublicAmpers&(main account • talk • block) 21:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

There appears to be a related village pump discussion from the same time, but I can't remember why I did it. I've unprotected. MBisanz talk 16:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! — PublicAmpers&(main account • talk • block) 14:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Modesty, punctuality but above all equality is important aspects of the Danish way of life. Yes or no? I say yes. Some people think this is Dubious. Really? Culture of Denmark article Modesty, punctuality but above all equality is important aspects of the Danish way of life.[3][dubious – discuss] Indeed, deliberate attempts to distinguish oneself from others may be viewed with hostility in line with the ironic autoconcept Jante's Law, respected by some as an unofficial code of Scandinavian conduct. Is it really? Say it with a song[18]... Hafspajen (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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Problem changing username

Hello,

My principal account is on French wikipedia, where I change my username from Christian COGNEAUX to Gtaf. I thought it would change effective on all my accounts, but this is not true : my watchlist on my English account Gtaf is empty. Would you help me please. Thanks a lot. Cordially. Gtaf (talk) 15:32, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

hapehrati

You just completed a name change, did you notice that that user is ifdeffed as a sock? I think it makes more sense to keep the old name, as it provides a stronger relationship to the other puppets if appeals come up in the future. (And its a person's real name, so nobody other than the banned user should be using it). Gaijin42 (talk) 14:27, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

And you also marked it as  Not done in Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple ? Gaijin42 (talk) 14:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
He emailed me asking for the rename and it seemed like an ok idea because any connections would still be evident in the log. MBisanz talk 03:42, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Left

Left you some message, but is gone now. Hafspajen (talk) 14:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

You did, but I do not know about the culture of Denmark. Do you have any citations saying equality is a very important part of Danish life? MBisanz talk 18:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Gosh, all those citations. I is the way it is, you just know it. Everybody is doing it,[4] well almost everybody. http://janteuniversitet.wordpress.com/about/, [19][20], [21] [22] Koldau, Linda Maria (2013): Educational Disaster. The Destruction of Our Universities: The Danish Case. (forkortet engelsk udgave af trilogien Jante Universitet med de vigtigste analyser og et kapitel om, hvordan Janteloven virker i uddannelsessystemet. Hamborg: Tredition (udkommer til efterår 2013). ISBN 978-3-8495-4936-7.,

[23] I think the Danish don't know about it before they go abroad. Than they notice it. Hafspajen (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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Pope Miltiades image talk page

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Pooja Welling

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Changing username

Hello! I hope you don't mind me bothering you. I've had a change username request open for 2 weeks now, and am quite eager to have it completed. I just looked through the page revision history, and noticed that you are one of the only users who has processed some requests recently. It's for that reason that I've singled you out, and am asking if you you'd be able to change my username? I'd be very grateful. Sorry for being impatient, but it's going sooo slowwwly! If it's unfair for me to jump the queue then fair enough, you can dismiss this, but I thought I'd be cheeky and ask. =) --Lobo (talk) 12:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

 Done Sorry for the delay. MBisanz talk 20:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Changing username

I just had a quick question as to why my name at the top of the page still says my old username rather than the new one you changed it too? Also if that doesn't change where do I actually see the change? Also the change is not reflected in my signature either. --Tyadasm2006 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

You need to click "log out" in the upper right and then log in using "SlackerMcfly" and your current password. MBisanz talk 22:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

User change request... (with user page protected as well)

I may be impatient, but I want my user change to remove 123. I also want its user page to be protected like mine was, due to hostile reactions in the past(not here, yet) Thanks for understanding... --Lesbiangirl123 (talk) 08:17, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Thinks! But it still exist, as I wasn't logged off when you did that. Can you deregister the Lesbiangirl123 page? I'm sorry for messing it up, and I request you to salt protect my page... --Lesbiangirl (talk) 00:30, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
I do not see a page for Lesbiangirl123. MBisanz talk 00:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I from china, my name is awint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.82.187 (talk) 20:31, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Mister St Laurent

This page still avoids deletion after all this time. Please do something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Saint_Laurent — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.52.84 (talk) 02:22, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Insulam Simia

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I've "volunteered" you for something

Hi MBisanz,

I "volunteered" you for choosing a new EC here. If you don't want to, you don't have to, obviously. If you not only don't want to, but also think it's a bad idea, feel free to comment there. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup! Saturday October 5

Jefferson Market Public Library
 Please join the Wikimedia NYC Meetup on October 5, 2013!
Everyone gather at Jefferson Market Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach
for education, museums, libraries and planning WikiConference USA.
--Pharos (talk) 22:01, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Page unprotection request

Would you please consider unprotecting the redirect "Frasier's Curse", which you protected some four years ago? Otherwise, would you please replace its content as follows:

#REDIRECT [[Frasier (season 6)#ep122]]
{{ER to list entry|Frasier}}

Thanks... — Cbbkr (talk) 00:09, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz talk 01:25, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

CHU/S query

Hello MBisanz, I'm not sure of the SOP in this situation, this request was answered by the user in the form of a second request (this time while logged in to their main account) My question is, do both requests remain ? (is one now considered a duplicate request ?) I'm leaning towards leaving both but, just thought I'd ask. Thanx in advance . Mlpearc (powwow) 15:58, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Nvrmnd I see now. Cheers. Mlpearc (powwow) 03:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 October 2013

Request

I would like to request that the following article you deleted per WP:AFD be userified: Futz! I plan to improve the article and attempt to have it restored via WP:DRV.

Please note that I would like all of the deleted revisions of the article - and the corresponding talk page - to be userified (since I would like to have as much material to work with as possible) - not just the revisions that were deleted via WP:AFD. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 17:48, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you at least acknowledged this message. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 12:24, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I emailed the last revision to you. That was the only really substantive revision of the 6 revisions that were deleted. MBisanz talk 02:12, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate the provision of the revision, but isn't e-mailing this kind of stuff considered opaque around here? Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 02:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Not really, the file history is fairly complex, so copying and emailing was by far the easiest way to get you the info. MBisanz talk 13:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Are you free on Sunday? Join us for a special Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for a special WikiSalon at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Library's Digital Commons Center. We will gather at 3 PM on Sunday, October 13, 2013 to discuss an important topic: what can Wikipedia and the DC area do to help each other? We hope to hear your thoughts and suggestions; if you have an idea you would like to pursue, please let us know and we will help!

Following the WikiSalon, we will be having dinner at a nearby restaurant, Ella's Wood Fired Pizza.

If you're interested in attending, please sign up at the event page. We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 02:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 October 2013


Bit of a hiccup

hello, MBisanz Thank you for changing my username, there seems to be a slight hiccup, and now both usernames JZimmerman (WMF) (old) and Jaredzimmerman (WMF) new are now active… Can we get rid of JZimmerman (WMF) completely? Jared Zimmerman (talk) 20:13, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Jared, renames aren't global so the renaming process detaches your local account from the global one. Special:CentralAuth/JZimmerman (WMF) suggests you've not got the rename done on all wikis. So if you're still actively using User:JZimmerman (WMF) on any other wiki, then CentralAuth may well automatically recreate the old account and log you in to it. You likely wouldn't even notice this happen, and you'd be able to make edits from the old account. This can also sometimes happen if you don't log out of your old account, or if you try to log in to the old account by accident. This problem, amongst others, is why I'm so eager to push ahead with SUL finalisation! All that we could do at this point is rename User:JZimmerman (WMF) to something else, which doesn't actually solve the problem; we do not have the ability to reattribute edits. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 21:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I can also delete or lock the old SUL account so that it won't keep happening. MBisanz talk 21:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for accepting my name change!

I AM A BOX! OF APPLES! (talk) 02:12, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Change of Username (Usurpations request) Request Still In Progress : Mb-m → Mmitra

Hi, I have requested for Change of Username using Usurpations from Mb-m → Mmitra. It's almost 8 days from the date of request but still it shows In progress, i would like to know how much time does it takes to complete the request and how long would it take to complete. Please reply as soon as possible. Thank You !

Link: Mb-m → Mmitra

--Mb-m (talk) 04:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Change of Username (Usurpations request) Request: Virtualname → Programmer

Hi, I have requested for Change of Username using Usurpations from Virtualname → Programmer. But I got a failure. Would you please tell me all the steps to complete the name modification? Thank You! For your information

Virtualname (talk) 13:32, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 October 2013

Bureaucrat needed

Please see the "Complex username-block situation - Senseltd and Wikikl" section at WP:AN; some days ago you helped by renaming an account that was blocked for a username violation, but the block and the rename and the reason for the block have combined to confuse the person using the account, and we've ended up with a situation that's downright confusing for everyone. As someone suggested at WP:AN, more renames (and block changing) would greatly improve the situation. Nyttend (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

New REFBot

There is a suggestion on Wikipedia:Bot requests#New REFBot for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Maybe you could work on it like you did it with other projects? That would be fine. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze (talk · contribs) 10:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:CHU/A

Hi, I was referred here from the teahouse. I was wondering if I would be allowed to just start helping out at CHU (not actually renaming users, obviously, as I'm not a crat :)), or is there an approval process for CHU clerks. Thanks, --Jakob (Scream about the things I've broken) 01:27, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome to just start helping out. Unless someone yells at you, you're doing the right thing. MBisanz talk 18:41, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 October 2013

Request

You recently sent me an e-mail with the contents of one revision of the following deleted article: Futz!

However, I would now like to request that you make the deleted revisions visible. The reason is simple: if I'm going to take this to WP:DRV, I'm going to need every argument I can muster, so I would like them to be available before I start the process. (Also, deleted articles turned into redirects often have their old revisions left visible anyways.)

Additionally, if you do this, I would ask that you make all of the revisions of this article visible, not just the ones deleted most recently. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 08:26, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...

New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.

New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??

New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges

News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration


Read the full newsletter



Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 20:51, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Greenwich Village In The 60s" Editathon! Saturday November 2

Jefferson Market Public Library
 Please join Wikipedia "Greenwich Village In The 60s" Editathon on November 2, 2013!
Everyone gather at Jefferson Market Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach
for Greenwich Village articles on the history and the community.
--Pharos (talk) 21:54, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  1. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_brain
  2. ^ http://www.watkinsbooks.com/review/watkins-spiritual-100-list-2012
  3. ^ Denmark - Language, Culture, Customs and Etiquette. From Kwintessential. Retrieved 4 December 2008.
  4. ^ article (in Swedish) by Viveka Adleswärd in Svenska Dagbladet 2003-11-02
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