User talk:MrOllie/Archive 18

Abusing multiple accounts?

Hi, MrOllie. I've blocked Rockingbeats for 31 hours for this attack, but perhaps I ought to dig deeper. What editing pattern is it you refer to here, please? Bishonen | tålk 16:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC).

Rockingbeats has long been the primary editor of New York City Breakers, an article they have recently stated a COI with. I trimmed the article back since it was largely unsourced and was excessively promotional. A mostly dormant account and a brand new editor each showed up to revert the promotional stuff back in. I lean towards thinking this is more likely on the 'offline coorindation' side, but I suppose the new account might be the same person. MrOllie (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

WP:MEAT is equal to WP:SOCK, so it doesn't matter if it is off line coordination or the same person. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

I see the two editors you are talking about. I'll file an SPI. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

And I see you did, and it's all over. Thanks, MrOllie and UtherSRG. Bishonen | tålk 20:41, 8 August 2023 (UTC).

@Bishonen: I hope I didn't disappoint that you didn't have to bring out Bishzilla! XD - UtherSRG (talk) 17:59, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

[Bishzilla eyes the little UtherSRG. She is actually a little disappointed.] Bishzilla friendly helpful monster nowadays! But does enjoy being brought out for occasional nameless carnage also! bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 19:16, 9 August 2023 (UTC).

Kangaroos that aren't there

If you throw a boomerang at a kangaroo that isn't there, it comes back to you. It looks like you got called to WP:ANI for two snipe hunts for kangaroos that weren't there. It wasn't clear to me: Were they edit-warring different articles, or the same article? How many humans were involved? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Two totally different people angry about different things so far as I can tell. MrOllie (talk) 17:46, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, well. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:34, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

I will say that the latest stupid reports and how they ended are evidence that the English Wikipedia administrators at least sometimes are doing their job of controlling disruption. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:09, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

ANI really loves a good boomerang. I find that outcomes are generally good when a disruptive user opens the section them self - the evidence is right there, no need to even click on a diff. It is a bit more mixed when you've got to lay out an actual case. MrOllie (talk) 20:15, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Rev/del request please

[1] the Thank you Knitsey (talk) 20:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid you're in the wrong place. MrOllie (talk) 20:44, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

ffs, sorry lol. Knitsey (talk) 20:46, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

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Bro I'm not engaging in a edit war like I explained. Can you fix the things you messed up in the Crowder article. 2607:FB91:934:1A06:E0E6:3BFF:FED1:D4C5 (talk) 12:50, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

If you want to get the article changed, you have to go to the articles talk page (not my user talk page) and convince others to agree with your changes. There is no other way to do this. Making the same edit repeatedly will not work. MrOllie (talk) 12:52, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Could you please explain why you reverted my changes to the SQL page

Dear @MrOllie:, I saw that you have reverted my additions of SQL language implementations. May I ask why? Have I done something wrong or that was not desired? I see a comment about "table of external links", is that the issue? Gvenzl (talk) 00:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I reverted it because it contained little information other than external links, and because Wikipedia articles should avoid making lists of products or vendors in general. MrOllie (talk) 00:08, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! So you see no value add in listing technologies that have implemented SQL on this page? I followed the same layout of "Procedural extensions", except that I did add a reference to the actual technology's implementation documentation. Gvenzl (talk) 00:13, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

No, I don't. I believe that's what I just said. MrOllie (talk) 00:23, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok, then how come it's ok for Procedural extensions that is even just part of SQL but not for implementation of the SQL language itself? Gvenzl (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

It's not, IMO. I removed that as well. MrOllie (talk) 00:48, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, at least it stays consistent! Gvenzl (talk) 02:03, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Crowder article

Bro why was my edit undone? It's bad when you say queer is just a gay slur. It's a word hurtful to my whole community. Also MrOllie, I know articles say "homophobic and racist slurs" but why do I have to quote the sources linked word for word. The whole point of editing Wikipedia is to change articles, usually Wikipedia articles don't have to quote articles word for word. So why do I have to now to be able to edit? If I say "anti-LGBTQ" slurs instead of "homophobic slurs" what's the problem? Most Wikipedia articles don't quote articles word for word so why do I have to all of a sudden? 2607:FB91:964:15BE:A8C2:5CFF:FE48:F8AB (talk) 06:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Why can't I just edit the crowder article? What's the big deal? Why do you care so much if a word or sentence gets changed?, Im just using different words that usually means the same thing because I think it'll improve the article instead of just saying "homophobic slurs". 2607:FB91:964:15BE:A8C2:5CFF:FE48:F8AB (talk) 06:48, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

The 'big deal' is your failure to follow basic Wikipedia policy. Your proposals were rejected on the article talk page. That means it is time to walk away and find something else to do. MrOllie (talk) 11:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Please give us newbies on Wikipedia a chance to add our knowledge

Dear MrOllie,

please give newbies on Wikipedia (like me) a chance to add their expert knowledge in potentially niche areas. It takes time for us to understand the norms and rules of this place (of which there are many). Simply reverting changes that took hours or days to write can be very frustrating and discouraging. For days now I've been trying my best to summarise an extremely difficult, emerging research area. We're doing our best here and, of course, we make mistakes along the way. Please be kind when correcting these mistakes.

Thank you! - applebananasmoothie Applebananasmoothie (talk) 13:15, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

You were given links to the rules in a message on your user talk page, a message which you chose to delete. Reverting improper changes is correcting your mistakes. MrOllie (talk) 13:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply.

I had already read your message and tried to work accordingly. Writing a Wikipedia article is quite different from writing a research article. It still takes me some time to get used to that.

I did not know that personal talk pages should not be deleted. It's the old habit of deleting emails after reading them (it's still sticking from back when email clients would quickly run out of space :-)).

Finding the balanced exposition of a small research field when it maybe has 20ish people working on it, is quite tricky.

And of course, thank you for reverting improper changes.

- Best Applebananasmoothie (talk) 13:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Removing a citation you didn't bother to read

@MrOllie: I would like to remind you that you are a Wikipedia editor just like everyone of us. You are not privileged. You don't have the right to revert edits just by judging a source as unreliable 5 minutes after the edit, a source that you didn't bother to read. The source has nothing to do with promotion or marketing and it cites reliable literature.116.123.114.153 (talk) 08:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

It's a self published blog and web store. Obviously unreliable, especially for medical claims, which have special sourcing requirements which you can find at WP:MEDRS. MrOllie (talk) 10:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

this Ollie person has agenda that are self bias and driven by other people interest, I can see he's a Wikipedia for hire for what purpose? this should be a academic page where all research and citations references should be heard written free from harassment if cited right.. Rockingbeats (talk) 05:12, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

My only agenda is to ensure that Wikipedia content policies are followed. MrOllie (talk) 12:10, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

You also deleted my contributions to Cyberwarfare, didn't you read it, it took me days to polish my work and it was perfect and you just came over and deleted it. VaisahPeter (talk) 23:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot accept unsourced text, as has already been explained on your talk page. MrOllie (talk) 23:29, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, Mr. Ollie is jack of all trades. He knows about cyber security to astronomy. He is the God only who has the responsibility to keep eye on all the information. He can even delete necessary citations even if they are relevant, high-quality (published in Nature, Sciene, or Lancet), because he own Wikipedia and he just wants it. A typical IT guy who knows everything. Eventually what will happen? It would be delayed but finally those papers would be cited to those exactly same locations by someone else because those edited discoveries are important to human mankind and not spams. I wish Mr. Ollie could have better things to do in life, or could have generate those valuable information himself and contributed to mankind.

@Mr. Ollie, your agenda won now, but that won't last forever. Good luck :-) Majavic (talk) 22:14, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Wow, adding promotional spam to Wikipedia is very important to you. I would suggest that you are the one who should have better things to do in life. MrOllie (talk) 19:40, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I can confirm that the user @MrOllie is extremely biased and reverts cited scientific data based on irrelevant biased Western politics. He reverted my edit with the justification "Mainstream science defines race as a social construct" when i have provided actual scientific data on the genetic diversity of modern humans. Itisme3248 (talk) 12:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I reverted based on obvious failure to follow Wikipedia's content policies. Direct any followup to the article's talk page, where it belongs. MrOllie (talk) 12:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		Never mind the bollocks. Generalrelative (talk) 14:18, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Link removed

Dear MrOllie,

I replaced a broken link. Previously someone put a wrong link to an inappropriate resource, so I replaced it with a similar link to the same topic. If you think it is not relevant and users need no reference link, please, explain. Otherwise, I propose to return the one

Thanks OneKanobi (talk) 13:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

You replaced a broken link with unreliable blog spam. That is not an improvement. MrOllie (talk) 14:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Let me understand the way of thinking, please. According to you, no reason what article says, either it explains the meaning of the word or not. If there is a tag or folder "blog" it means spam, is that right?

Thanks OneKanobi (talk) 15:45, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

No, not all blogs are spam. The one you added is, though. MrOllie (talk) 16:05, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Is this because I have a new account? How can I determine that the blog is not spam? Please, advice OneKanobi (talk) 16:18, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

No, it is because you added spam to an article. We don't use corporate advertising as sources or add links to it on Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 16:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, for bothering, but I really trying to understand. I know that Wiki against corporate ads and this is not the topic of discussion.

So, if the article placed on let's say New York Times or Forbes - it is not a Spam, but if it is on website of the company that has blog and the article looks like a marketing content and not press release - it is a spam. Is that right? OneKanobi (talk) 16:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

It's not that simple, no. If you have questions about how Wikipedia works in general, you can direct those to WP:TEAHOUSE rather than my user talk page. MrOllie (talk) 16:31, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I hate to be a "pain in the ***". But I did, and still it is not clear for me. The link I've shared describes:

- Who is Product Owner

- What his role & differences between Product Owner & Product Manager

- What frameworks he/she are using

- and main duties

That's it.

Possibly, you were in the rush and removed it?

https://blog.urlaunched.com/top-responsibilities-of-product-owner/

If you are sure it is a wrong link, possibly, I need to find another link that will describe only fixed statement "what is Product Owner"? - Without comparison, frameworks they are using, etc?

Thank you OneKanobi (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I am 100% sure that is marketing and not a usable source. I was not 'in a rush' and did not make a mistake. You should have gathered that from the conversation we just had. MrOllie (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to find another link.

Thank you OneKanobi (talk) 17:13, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

No, don't find another link. If you want to repair a broken link, just switch to the new URL (as I just did) or to a wayback machine link. One or both will nearly always be available. Do not substitute some different site that doesn't support the same content. MrOllie (talk) 17:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Why did you remove my revision to Kmart?

The store closure I reported wasn't speculated- it was confirmed by a real news source, NBC Philadelphia. There's no speculation there; the store is going to be closed. Wishlish (talk) 10:17, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Wishlish

See Talk:Kmart, where this has been discussed several times. MrOllie (talk) 13:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Yet another revert war from this user

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alec_Holowka#Doesn%27t_mention_that_the_allegations_were_false Like others have experienced, this user violated WP:NPOV and WP:EW, instantly reverting while refusing to use the talk page. The speed with which he edited content he apparently didn't want to hear showed he didn't bother reading the two citations I linked. Looking at this talk page, it's clear it's part of a larger pattern with you, where you are politically biased and are abusing Wikipedia rules to try and get your way. 100DashSix (talk) 23:25, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I get a lot of complaints from people who are trying to abuse Wikipedia, for instance by adding spam. I'm rather proud of them. MrOllie (talk) 23:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

You're abusing Wikipedia.

I've been here since 2006 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=3518224

I figured someone might take issue with my attempt to add context to an article I was reading and found deficient, so I prepared a reply. After I finally got this user to actually use the Talk page, he did so in an uncivil manner and started bragging about how he pisses people off with reverts. He insulted my reply and didn't engage in any of the points. He's calling me a linkspammer and similar for daring to revert his revert, which already means that the edit goes to the Talk page because of the 3 reverts in 24 hours rule. 100DashSix (talk) 23:32, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Why are you talking about me in the third person? This is my user talk page. Are you confused? MrOllie (talk) 23:33, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

To try and avoid sounding confrontational and increase the chances you'll address my central points. I consider "are you confused" an insult too. 100DashSix (talk) 23:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Your 'central points' seem to consist of misquoting me and then getting offended by the misquotes. If you thought using an incorrect pronoun would make that less confrontational or convincing you definitely are confused. MrOllie (talk) 23:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

"Using an incorrect pronoun" is a completely inaccurate description (sounds like I tried to misgender you or something) and you're pulling this into the weeds, while asking your friend (with a number of overlapping comments on both of your talk pages) to come and revert in your preferred favor. Is this one of the options you were discussing above? WP:EW requires WP:3O, not your friend who you chat with on each others' chat pages about edits and users to engage with.

I didn't use pronouns, I used a third person passive voice to attempt to keep things civil and not sound like a personal attack. Again NP:AGF. 100DashSix (talk) 00:03, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

'he' in place of you is indeed a case of using an incorrect pronoun. As to the rest, you are throughly mistaken both about the role of 3O as well as this collusion you imagine is going on. Enjoy your enforced time off, I hope you take the time to read and understand our policies, particularly the ones about personal attacks and reliable sourcing. MrOllie (talk) 01:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing

"Fuelled by marketing hype" is absolutely the use of weasel words. See talk page. Enix150 (talk) 03:52, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Proof by assertion doesn't really work, especially when the assertion is obviously wrong. Keep future discussion on article talk pages where it belongs. MrOllie (talk) 03:56, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Proof by assertion would imply more than one use. You are simply failing an attempt at misdirection. The source provided does not back up your assertion in any way. Cheers! Enix150 (talk) 04:38, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Since you seem to have missed it, I'll be more clear: Don't post on this user talk page again. Use the article talk page. MrOllie (talk) 13:20, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Atlantis

Why can’t I state my argument that Atlantis was a real place? I didn’t understand it. Can you please explain it to me again? Thanks. 2600:1005:B164:AC1A:9145:2171:1E7B:B3CF (talk) 20:36, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Eminem page.

How am I weasel wording? I'm trying to reduce bias on the page. BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 03:17, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

This is why Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger, Elon musk, and many others criticized Wikipedia for being biased, because of editors like you. BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 03:19, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

How is weasel wording saying "Eminem's lyrics were criticized by the LGBTQ community and their allies?" I'm just being more specific on the article. And how is saying "it's Eminem's opinion that he matured" weasel wording. He literally changed his political views on homosexuality from conservative to left-wing. So you're saying it's a fact that he matured instead of an opinion, so basically you're saying that changing from a conservative is maturing. That's literally political bias so many people criticized Wikipedia for BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 03:27, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Everytime I edit something about the LGBTQ community, when it's not even negative at all (like the crowder article) you revert it. Your literally so sensitive about the topic when I didn't even say anything bad. You tell me to follow the rules of wikipedia, how about you follow the rules too? Your not privileged on this website and you can't do whatever you want. Your not above the rules BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 03:31, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Coming to my talk page and making personal attacks is not going to convince anyone to support your changes. Over attributing a position is a form of weasel wording (see MOS:WEASEL). You keep adding commentary to articles which is not found in the cited sources - when you insert stuff you've come up with yourself like this it is called original research on Wikipedia, and it is strictly forbidden by Wikipedia's content policies. You have been fundamentally misunderstanding what Wikipedia is and how it is written. You must read, understand, and follow our content policies. MrOllie (talk) 03:36, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

look up the definition of personal. I'm not making personal attacks. Also the source that says Eminem was criticized for homophobia and banned from Australia, that source is broken, yet the sentence where it says Eminem's lyrics were criticized for homophobic is still there. So doesn't that violate Wikipedia's policy BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 11:39, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

also if criticizing you is personal attacks and calling you biased, you also made personal attacks to me by calling me biased when you reverted my edit. So if I violated the personal attacks violation, you did too, of course they're not going to send you a warning because they're probably unfortunately biased too. BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

You have clearly been making personal attacks. Your literally so sensitive about the topic The only definition that matters is this one: WP:NPA. On the other hand, at no point have I made any statement that you are biased. Is English your first language? Perhaps there is some sort of communication barrier here. MrOllie (talk) 13:20, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

English isn't my first language. And I moved to the United States in 2018, but even tho English isn't my first language, I think I'm really good at it, especially when it comes to spelling. Also if you look on the Eminem edit history when you reverted my edit for the second time, you said "this weasel wording is biased." So yeah, isn't that also a personal attack to call me biased. BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 20:53, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

That is a misquote, what I wrote was Weasel wording does not reduce bias, it increases it. A statement that weasel wording increases bias is not the same thing as calling a person biased. I think you will have fewer problems if you contribute to the Wikipedia in the language you know best - you clearly have not been understanding what you have been told by multiple people about avoiding original research, and this is causing you trouble on most of the articles you have attempted to edit. MrOllie (talk) 20:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

But there's a lot of English articles that need fixing. BarneyTheFarmy (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

You are not 'fixing' articles. By adding WP:OR, you are doing the opposite. MrOllie (talk) 12:05, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Removing Content Without Explaining Why

Sometimes, "See also and External links" have information that seems "irrelevant" to the topic itself, and it can be confusing. In some cases, the information may be outdated and/or "not found" when trying to look for it. When I do my own searches, I sometimes run into "snags," meaning it might take a while for me to find whatever it is I'm looking for. Websites themselves can "break" and/or be taken down, along with the specific articles they publish. MOST people make changes from time to time with their online information, and it's NOT always easy trying to keep up! 2600:8805:9017:EE00:88EC:9B8C:E3D4:F8F9 (talk) 01:11, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

The purpose of the see also section is to link to stuff that is not otherwise linked in the article (that is, stuff that is less relevant). Wiping out that list and replacing it with stuff that is already linked in the article is not helpful. MrOllie (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah FYI this is a trademark of this user and has been for many, many years. Graham87 02:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

"Inappropriate Links"

I NEVER add "inappropriate" links! Just visit the websites, and you'll see what I mean! 2600:8805:9017:EE00:88EC:9B8C:E3D4:F8F9 (talk) 01:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

You're obviously confused, I said nothing to you about inappropriate links. MrOllie (talk) 01:17, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Ignore them. Long-term range-blocked for long-term abuse. DMacks (talk) 02:56, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

social service, rehabilitation service job coaching

You removed content Without explaining why. It's the neglect and violation of professional ethics in Wikpedia.

Latest comment: 17 David1886 (talk) 19:49, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I absolutely did explain why - twice now, in fact. You should stop adding unsourced content. MrOllie (talk) 19:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Number of the Beast as calculated - Do I have permission to add this?

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbe-srv/pdbechem/chemicalCompound/show/HHH

The molecule is called Hetain (Heian in Chinese means darkness), the shortform name is X, and the molecule is bound by the 'Holy Holy Holy' from revelations. This mark is the mark of the double crosser - the betrayer. The Chi Rho becomes Chi To, the Broken Cane, the Broken Stalk, and also the Marked Cross, or Swallowed T; 2 strokes and 2 gashes.

The mark is to be void of all color.

The sum of Het and Aleph in Hebrew gematria is the straight husk bowing to husk; this is 555+111 = 666.

If God can be represented as Trinity test, Hiroshima and Nagasaki type bombs, you can calculate the number of the Bride;

U235+Pu239+Pu239 + 60 (Head of Grain, Samech, Bride) + 4 (Cleaned Body, Dalet, Big Celebration 大礼 in Chinese) = 777

Even 235+239+239 / 239*3 = 0.994421199 as 'was, is and is to come', or Chinese as 'forever, dead, yet, is, forever' 180.150.64.82 (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

No, this does not belong anywhere on Wikipedia. Such things are expressly forbidden by a core policy: Wikipedia:No original research MrOllie (talk) 16:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Welp, guess the secret of the number of beast is never going to be told ;-; 180.150.64.82 (talk) 07:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Why do you need another source to proof the existence of a working url in twitter?

I just added a revision saying you need another source. Why is that? There is a link that proofs the existence of the content. Can you please explain more why do you need that? What do you mean by "we"? Htmllife (talk) 15:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I already explained this on your talk page. MrOllie (talk) 15:22, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

No you didn't explain why you say the URL to such content, a physical proof of such content is not enough. You don't say who is "we". It feels like you meant "I". Htmllife (talk) 15:25, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I did. We have sourcing requirements, you must meet them. We don't use social media postings as sources like that. 'We' is the Wikipedia community in general. Please direct any further follow up about this to the article's associated talk page. My user talk is not the place to debate this. MrOllie (talk) 15:27, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I won't bother you again, sorry for that, this is the last time im writting. It was you that started using my page.

But you see, it is frustrating that format is more important that what is really true.

I have links that prove that I did in fact start using hashtags months sooner that what the current version states.

I am using the same source that is used for messina tweet, twitter, there is no better source for this. I am not sharing a thumbnail but a tweet that is older that the one wikipedia says is the first one.

Instead of helping a new fact to be shared you are just making things hard for me, classic bully movement with newbies.

I expected more from the wikipedia community, since you say you represent it. Htmllife (talk) 15:44, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

If you're writing about yourself, additionally see WP:COI - you should not be doing that. I'll drop a full message about that at your talk page. Coming to my talk page and making personal attacks is not going to help you get your preferred content into the article - it is more likely it will help get your account blocked from Wikipedia. - MrOllie (talk) 15:46, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

You can't use social media to document the use of something in social media? In this case it's the use of a hashtag, he's pointing to the post (in social media) that used the hashtag. Why would you need some other source to tell you "Hey, this URL used a hashtag". Back then, tweets couldn't be edited, so a tweet using a hashtag should be more than enough proof that hashtags were used in Twitter, right? Jjmerelo (talk) 08:39, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn'tt use primary sources to undercut reliable secondary sources. We especially don't allow COI editors to use their own social media posts for such things. This is basic policy stuff. MrOllie (talk) 11:25, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Larnaux

Larnaux is also surely involved with thevou, and probably paid, not just generically promoting it. DMacks (talk) 19:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

A little bit of googling confirms that, but per WP:OUTING I wouldn't want to say more. MrOllie (talk) 19:49, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Indeed. DMacks (talk) 20:42, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Russia & Shawarma

Colleague, shawarma is also very popular in Russia, and I confirmed this with sources and indicated in the article that this dish is also popular outside of Islamic countries. There is not a word about this in the article. And you didn't specify which source you consider "terrible". There are other sources. https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/06/22/russian-demand-for-shawarma-more-than-doubled-over-the-last-year-experts-cite-its-low-price https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2017/08/25/shawurma-shawerma-what-do-you-call-the-scent-of-russian-summer-a58762 https://news.itmo.ru/en/features/life_in_russia/news/8421/ Arinbard (talk) 00:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

It's popular in dozens of countries, there is no reason to mention Russia specifically. MrOllie (talk) 01:57, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

This is not an argument to undo my edit. I wrote specifically about Russia, where this dish is as popular as in Islamic countries. This deserves a mention and reflects the popularity of the dish. As for other countries, this WP:WIP.

If you have no more arguments, I will revert the fix you reverted. Arinbard (talk) 03:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

There is absolutely no reason to single out Russia. It's popular world-wide. It'd be like putting 'It is also popular in Russia' in the lead section of Bread. MrOllie (talk) 11:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Omni man wiki

Hey thanks you for the message and I believe the the information I gave was clear and I dont understand the point you gave of incoherent. I would like you to clarify that and I want make points stand and stay in the edits Taran532Dhillon (talk) 02:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Incoherent is defined as 'expressed in an incomprehensible or confusing way; unclear.' Your grammar is incorrect - so incorrect that leaving your text in makes the article incomprehensible. Is English your first language? Perhaps you will be more successful on the Wikipedia project that is written in your native tongue. MrOllie (talk) 02:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Also I am aware of the meaning. English is technically my second language however I understand it completely fine and I can write it as well but with a few errors. And I believe that you could helped me and fixed the grammar stand point of the information I added. Taran532Dhillon (talk) 02:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

It is not 'a few errors'. And no one has a responsibility to guess at what you are trying to communicate and fix your edits for you. - MrOllie (talk) 11:50, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Unnecessary reverting

Refrain from reverting my edits which you choose to describe as 'unconstructive'. British English does not describe a chocolate chip cookie as a chocolate chip biscuit. Please have proper knowledge of the topic you are moderating when choosing to moderate another edits, you marshmallow. Thank you. Rando321

(talk page stalker) I have a pack of chocolate chip biscuits in my hand made by Moores. Chocolate chip biscuits are commonly called cookies these days, but manufacturers do still call the biscuits. Off to eat half a pack and immediately feel guilty. Knitsey (talk) 21:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Also, the article is about cookies (biscuits) in general. Nearly every type of cookie is called a biscuit in the UK. Knitsey (talk) 21:54, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, so much so that I wonder whether MrOllie is being trolled.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

As soon as I sent the message I had the thought that this is trolling. And now I've eaten half a pack of biccies just to prove a point. Knitsey (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for taking one for the team, Knitsey.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Eight. I took eight for the team. Knitsey (talk) 22:25, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Seems like trolling to me: [2] [3] MrOllie (talk) 02:06, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for editing the Spidey page

File:Amazing Fantasy 15.jpg	The web-tastic award
	Thanks for editing the Spider man article!! I saw you removed a bunch of random things and made the page cleaner!! glad to see people like you helping Wikipedia!! have this special Web-slinger award of honor!! Babysharkboss2 (talk) 14:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

External Linking to Self Published Sites

Hi Ollie,

Thanks for your clarification regarding external links. I am fairly new here and while I feel my edits are improving in quality I am still learning. Thank you. Jroibal1 (talk) 14:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Shawarma Page

Hey! I was wondering why you undid my contribution on the Shawarma page? I am a food writer and have been studying shawarma and other middle eastern dishes for years. I simply added more on the variation found in Bahrain. Respectfully, do not undo my contribution. You can follow me on Instagram (same user name) to view my food work. Thank you. Plainonlycheese (talk) 16:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

It was not written in encyclopedic style. See WP:YOU for starters. MrOllie (talk) 16:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

ok. there's no need to keep deleting it. I fixed the language. it's my first contribution here. I'm just trying to spread some info. Plainonlycheese (talk) 17:47, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

it was literally one word. would've been easier for you to fix it or leave me a comment rather than just deleting it, don't you think?! Plainonlycheese (talk) 17:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

You should expect to get reverted when you make an article worse - and by changing it to excessively informal language that is what you did. Nothing personal, that's just how we do things here. MrOllie (talk) 18:37, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

make it worse? excessively informal language? what are you even on about?

just say you're lazy and unwilling to fix a simple error. you only just noticed the link from the previous contributor on this topic, and used it as an excuse to delete the whole thing. I fixed it now, let's see what new reason you come up with to delete it. Plainonlycheese (talk) 18:43, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

We also don't allow personal attacks. If you keep on like this you won't be successful on this site. MrOllie (talk) 19:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

yeah yeah. this site is full of errors and misinformation and you're just deleting my stuff cos I wrote "you'll". go do something useful will you? plain. (talk) 10:01, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I just wonder why you reverted my uploaded images?

I could just wonder all in the title. Thanks from Technobladex (talk) 03:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place to host advertising, including in screenshots and images. MrOllie (talk) 03:20, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Does that seem advertising? Technobladex (talk) 03:21, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I just said. MrOllie (talk) 03:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

And one more question: What could I upload a random file to Miniclip (all types of it)?. Thanks! Technobladex (talk) 03:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are trying to ask. MrOllie (talk) 03:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Just a persistance, what kinds of the file are allowed to send in Miniclip? Technobladex (talk) 03:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're saying. Is English your first language? You will probably have an easier time in the version of Wikipedia that is written in your native tongue. MrOllie (talk) 03:51, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh, truthfully it isn't. It is my second language, but I doubt I'm fully transparently fluent in making English sounds. Technobladex (talk) 03:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@MrOllie I am here and just want to mean about kinds of file allowed to upload. Technobladex (talk) 03:58, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

You're a sockpuppet account who is evading a block. You need to stop editing and request a block appeal from your original account. MrOllie (talk) 03:59, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Trying to clean up Anirudh Devgan article

Hi @MrOllie, I tried to clean up the Anirudh Devgan article by adding refs, converting prior ELs to refs, and adding the most important awards. As I explained in the Talk page, Devgan's being an IEEE Fellow explicitly satisfies one of the stated sufficient conditions for notability of scientists. Moreover, his Phil Kaufman Award and election to the US National Academy of Engineering are exceptional and confirm his weighty contributions to the field. There should be no doubts about his notability. Also, best-paper awards at two top conferences in the field (DAC and ICCAD) are notable awards, as far as I can tell. Furthermore, given my heavy edits and various prior edits, I don't see the need for the CoI banner on this page. Just in case, I have no CoI with Devgan. Thank you for looking into this. B030510 (talk) 08:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Plenty of sources?

Have you read the most recent AfD? There's sources, but they're all trivial mentions (and that wasn't me or someone against Rational-Wiki saying that). Do you have thing for Rational-Wiki or something? PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 11:56, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Do you have thing for Rational-Wiki or something? I might ask you the same thing. Maintenance templates are not a badge of shame for you to affix to article subjects you dislike. Direct any follow up comments to the article's talk page, where such discussion belongs. MrOllie (talk) 13:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

The matter has already been discussed, hence the maintenance tag. It's not a matter of liking or disliking Rational-Wiki, it's a matter of its notability being questioned (by myself and others). I don't try and get the articles of all subjects I dislike deleted (I'm actually an inclusionist), but on the other hand it means a great deal to them to keep that article on Wikipedia because it legitimizes them. I was going to look for a link for an example, but to be frank it's not worth my time right now; if I'm going to invest time and brain cells into that site it's going to be to gather evidence to send to their host to have it shut down for AUP violation like KiwiFarms. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 19:20, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

As I said: Direct any follow up comments to the article's talk page, where such discussion belongs. Don't post on my user talk about this again. MrOllie (talk) 19:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

You are evil!

The dark mode source for Snapchat is legit real, then you decided to take it away. STOP! MordegonDQXI (talk) 00:25, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

You need to cite sources that comply with WP:RS. Coming to my talk page to make personal attacks will not change that. MrOllie (talk) 00:26, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Reliable Sources: Customer communications management

From your previous updates to the Customer communications management article, I utilized what I believe to be more reliable sources in using the below for the following reasons. Please help me understand why these sources are not reliable. ScottMulkey (talk)

1. DOCUMENT Strategy Media, https://www.documentmedia.com/flex-277-Digital-Magazines.htm, magazine publication with an editorial board https://www.documentmedia.com//flex-298-Editorial-Guidelines.html and an annual industry conference https://www.documentstrategyforum.com/
2. A Guide to the Electronic Document Body of Knowledge, book published in 2014 by Xplor International. ISBN: 978-1-893347-05-2. The book had six editors and 23 content contributors. https://wiki.xplor.org/index.php?title=A_Guide_to_the_Electronic_Document_Body_of_Knowledge
3. WhatTheyThink https://whattheythink.com/, a printing industry digital magazine with the mission to inform, educate, and inspire the industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottMulkey (talk • contribs) 15:15, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Opinion articles and/or sponsored content (or content published 'in partnership with' commercial firms) aren't reliable sources - for example the two Aspire media pieces you cite here. The Xplor book is selfpublished (well, they used a vanity press, but same difference). You also appear to have a conflict of interest with Xplor and should not be citing or linking them. MrOllie (talk) 15:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

More generally, you're writing like you're writing a corporate brochure - Wikipedia articles aren't supposed to used loaded language or express the opinions of their authors (WP:NPOV), and they should be written for laypersons, not loaded up with Corporate jargon. MrOllie (talk) 15:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. This is a business related article, and some business terminologies and corporate jargon is to be expected. As an article on a business term, the target audience is business professionals. Thus I would argue the use of these terminologies is applicable. Otherwise the value of the article will continue to be minimal to those seeking information on the topic. Where applicable, I linked other Wikipedia articles instead of restating existing content.

I did not site Aspire, I sited Document Strategy Media, the publishers of Document Strategy Magazine. The author may have been from Aspire CCS, but the piece was reviewed by the editorial board before it was published in the magazine. There are very limited sources within this topic outside of trade groups, software companies, and service providers supporting this industry. I agree with the need for reliable sources, but if the Wikipedia community seeks exclusively sources with zero bias or agenda, we couldn't even site Wikipedia as even this site seeks contributions from users.

Xplor: I have disclosed my ties to Xplor and note that I am a volunteer simply seeking to contribute to the advancement for the industry. Does Wikipedia seeks content contributions only from non professionals? I would think the quality of the contributions can improve by using knowledgeable contributors. The characterization that a self-published book can not have quality content is an opinion (WP:NOR) and ignores the fact that so many industry professionals (though open collaboration, like Wikipedia), unpaid volunteers (community of volunteers, like Wikipedia), to support the sharing and distribute industry knowledge (like an encyclopedia).

My first pass at updating this article removed much of what I believed caused the WP:NOT essay-like label. I may not have caught every improvement needed to achieve perfection, but I believe it was going in the correct direction in a manor that increased the quality of the content. I have been reviewing your edit contributions in an attempt to identify where you have contributed to content so I may learn from your writing style examples. But they are hard to find among the pages of Reverted.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. ~Vince Lombardi

~ScottMulkey ScottMulkey (talk) 16:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

the target audience is business professionals No, it isn't. Wikipedia is written for a general audience. Business professionals either don't need this article or have better resources already. The author may have been from Aspire CCS, but the piece was reviewed by the editorial board before it was published in the magazine. - Yes, that is what sponsored content is. We still don't use it on Wikipedia. Does Wikipedia seeks content contributions only from non professionals? True professionals and subject matter experts are familiar with a diverse range of sources and do not need to cite things they have a conflict with. The characterization that a self-published book can not have quality content is an opinion You might think so, but this is basic Wikipedia sourcing policy. We don't use self published stuff.

I have been reviewing your edit contributions in an attempt to identify where you have contributed to content so I may learn from your writing style examples. But they are hard to find among the pages of Reverted. - Taking this as a serious question and not the very thinly veiled personal attack it appears to be, if you want writing samples have a look at anything in Wikipedia:Featured articles, which showcases the best articles on Wikipedia.

Look, if you have come to my talk page to ask questions, I am happy to accommodate. If you have come to my talk page to debate policies or to opine that Wikipedia does things the wrong way, this is really not the venue for that. - MrOllie (talk) 16:49, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Apologize for staying into what may be more debate, that is not my intent. As you have been reviewing my content submissions, I am seeking to continue to improve my understanding of the critique criteria to ensure my contributions are acceptable.

I feel like I keep learning about a previously unknown Wikipedia policy. But really it's simply an editors opinion to a policy. As an example , Wikipedia:Identifying_and_using_self-published_works states Self-published works are sometimes acceptable as sources, so self-publication is not, and should not be, a bit of jargon used by Wikipedians to automatically dismiss a source as "bad" or "unreliable" or "unusable".

The Customer communications management article has existed for some time, but has been seriously outdated. The existence of even these articles tied to projects such as Wikipedia:WikiProject_Business justify their existence within Wikipedia. ScottMulkey (talk) 17:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

There are some exceptions where self published sources are acceptable. One good example is Eugene Volokh. He's a world renowned legal scholar, who also has a blog. We might cite his blog as a reliable source from time to time. This sort of exception does not apply to Xplor - and, frankly, given your COI you really should not continue pushing this. Wikipedians have a broad understanding of COI and historically have a very low level of patience for those who are seen to have it. You will be much, much more successful here if you stay far away from anything you are associated with in your professional life, particularly when you are a new editor. That isn't policy - that is my advice, derived from watching many expert editors flame out over the years. MrOllie (talk) 18:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Request to Re-add Removed Links on Wikipedia

Dear MrOllie

Thank you for your message and for maintaining Wikipedia's quality standards. I appreciate your dedication to keeping the platform free from inappropriate external links and ensuring that it remains a reliable source of information for users around the world.

I fully understand and respect the guidelines concerning inappropriate links, and I have no intention of adding any such links to Wikipedia. I aim to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing accurate and impartial knowledge to its users. If you have any concerns or come across any content that may not adhere to these guidelines, please do not hesitate to bring it to my attention or report it through the appropriate channels.

SO, please allow me to contribute toward Wikipedia, and also allow me to re-add it.

Please re-add the links that you have removed. It is my humble request to you.

Thank you

Best Regards

Manav5585sharma (talk) 03:32, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

You hijacked an existing citation and replaced it with a link to a fake news website. I will not re-add the links. If you keep up that sort of thing, you can expect that your account will be blocked, MrOllie (talk) 03:40, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your message and for bringing this matter to my attention. I want to sincerely apologize for the citation replacement issue that occurred. It was certainly not my intention to contribute misleading information to Wikipedia, and I appreciate your vigilance in maintaining the platform's integrity.

I take your concerns seriously, and I assure you that such an error will not happen again. Your guidance is invaluable in helping me understand and respect Wikipedia's guidelines and standards. Please know that I am committed to contributing responsibly and positively to the Wikipedia community.

If there are any further steps I can take to rectify this situation or any other concerns you may have, please don't hesitate to let me know. I am here to learn and grow as a responsible contributor to Wikipedia.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Best regards, Manav5585sharma (talk) 04:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

..!

Recently,in the "Time (magazine)" article page;Some username "ButcherDoom" made some edit as vandalism..But ,you mentioned me as a vandalizer ,but I done none of that , or further edits on wikipedia to the future...Spbvj (talk) 10:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I hope MrOllie doesn't mind me stepping in here. You need to read the edit again. MrOllie reverted the edits by Butcher and reinstated your edits. Thats what the edit says, restored your version. Hope this helps, Knitsey (talk) 10:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

sry my bad🤝🤝 I didn't intend to threaten;I misunderstood... Spbvj (talk) 10:26, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

MrOllie

Please, don't remove useful links. Probably, this article does not matter to you and the information is enough. But for some people who are really interested in this topic and potential new people, is a convenient to have links to the tools and resources list in the one place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.92.31.29 (talk • contribs)

Your github site is not a useful link. You have been getting warnings about this on your talk page for years at this point. Please respect Wikipedia and its policies and stop trying to stuff links to your websites into the encyclopedia. - MrOllie (talk) 21:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Not a problem, you can move these links elsewhere and keep them up to date, but don't remove this, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.92.31.29 (talk) 21:06, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

No, that would be a clear violation of our external links guideline. If you add this again you can expect a block and/or for your github to be added to the spam blacklist. MrOllie (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Okay, what the point did I violate?

I think it doesn't matter who owns or creates a site as long as it contains useful information on a topic.

It's stupid to delete a list with links to many products and resources useful for specialists.

You make articles less informative and less useful, removing this information.

And, as I said, you can make separate page with comparison, for example, but you prefer to have the list of several commercial products on this page. 80.92.31.29 (talk) 21:17, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

The point that says you shouldn't spam your self published website onto Wikipedia. I'm not going to debate this with you on my talk page, you've been warned. You can keep going and see what happens, or not. MrOllie (talk) 21:18, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't want to play with you in the "edits war". But this is silly.

If I created another Github (or not) account, that you don't link to me and post link on this, would that be ok?

This is "rule for the rule". Not rule for the users convenience. 80.92.31.29 (talk) 21:26, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Spam is spam, even on a new account. Stop posting on my user talk page. MrOllie (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory

I want to discuss an improvement in the article. I think that, if controversial, the article Conspiracy theory must not be in "paranormal".

2.138.48.111 (talk) 17:10, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Well, it isn't, so job done. MrOllie (talk) 17:59, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

False statement in Epoch Times article

You reverted my edit to the first paragraph of the Epoch Times article, without a mention of the very reliable source that I used. I started a new topic on the Epoch Times talk page addressing this. Other Choices (talk) 23:02, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Don't post on my talk page again unless you're showing up because you've finally read the whole article and are coming to apologize. MrOllie (talk) 23:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

SIMDEC

As a long time practitioners of sensitivity analysis and Wikipedia contributor I respectfully disagree with the removing the SIMDEC insertion. I think the insertion is relevant. Please refer to the talk page of SIMDEC where I motivate the creation of this page. Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎‎Saltean (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is not a venue for you to promote yourself or your work. Please read our guidelines on conflict of interest (already linked on your own talk page) and follow them from now on. - MrOllie (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Pascal triangle

Some user had added the unreferenced claim of meru prasanda and pingala Pascal triangle again on the page . Leveinhockerkerala (talk) 10:36, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Influenced and influences in infobox

Why are you removing the influences and influenced tab of the infobox? Instead of deleting it, the text should go somewhere, if the problem is with the infobox element. These tabs are quite useful. 2804:14C:5BD8:5070:F7CC:DCF1:6F7A:8EA5 (talk) 02:24, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

The fields are not functional. Nothing is being displayed. Including non-displaying fields is an error. MrOllie (talk) 02:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

But in all of philosophers pages? I was web scraping and using it for my research. The information from the infobox is simply deleted, rather than placed somewhere else. 2804:14C:5BD8:5070:F7CC:DCF1:6F7A:8EA5 (talk) 02:58, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, there was a discussion and it was decided to remove it from all the infoboxes. Edit warring ineffectually on one article or another will not reverse that. MrOllie (talk) 03:01, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Where was this discussion placed? I literally am using these texts to my research. 2804:14C:5BD8:5070:F7CC:DCF1:6F7A:8EA5 (talk) 03:04, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Slxsis (talk) 15:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Restoring Polyvagal theory article during RfC

User:MrOllie Since there is an RfC still going on about Polyvagal Theory, I’d request that you please revert the lead of the article to its original state before the RfC began. I know you weren’t the first one to edit it during the RfC discussion, but after reverting those changes you then made edits yourself to the lead while it remained under discussion. User:Qflib and Drthorgithecorgi have both objected. Talk:Polyvagal theory#Survey and Discussion As it says in WP:Requests for comment#Responding to an RfC, “Editing after others have raised objections may be viewed as disruptive editing or edit warring.”) I understand that you and I have very different opinions on what should or should not be in the lead, but that’s what the RfC is for, and until that’s done neither of us should be making changes to the lead while there’s still discussion going on. You should suggest your new sentence in the RfC discussion, then alert others, including Qfib and Drthorgithecorgi , that the lead is back to where it started so the discussion can resume. As to my edits to the page (outside the lead) that you reverted, I thought removing unsourced claims about medical treatments could not possibly be controversial, and thus permitted under WP:COIU. It’s an odd choice to restore unsourced claims about medical treatments, contrary to the standards of WP:MEDRS, but I certainly won’t edit these passages again now that you’ve objected. Ian Oelsner (talk) 16:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

This request is based on a misunderstanding of what RFCs are and how they work. MrOllie (talk) 17:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit to "Briar (software)"?

I added some important useful information to the article "Briar (software)" and you just removed it. Those were two important references that cited sources to back up what the article said about Operating Systems that the Briar software supports. Those reference cite what software Briar supports by pointing to Briar web pages which specifically say those Operating Systems are supported, therefore they are a relevant citation. They also help people that are trying to find the software. I don't see any reason for you deleting them. Why did you do this? Jacob81 (talk) 14:14, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

The information was already sourced well enough - what you did was add redundant links to their download page. Wikipedia isn't a link directory. MrOllie (talk) 14:16, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

OK. There not the same URLs but the domain is the same as the one that is already cited in the article. OK. I understand. Jacob81 (talk) 17:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Please explain shamelessly deleting my question on a talk page?

I added a question to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Friendship , which you then subsequently reverted (together with someone else's comment. There should be no reason to delete someone else's questions, even if in your opinion they are either dumb or irrelevant. Instead, leave a comment. I do not want this to turn into an edit war but I will restore my comment if you don't give me a proper reason. This is unacceptable. Kharakhov (talk) 18:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

See WP:NOTFORUM. We do in fact remove comments that are irrelevant. MrOllie (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Willing to have explanation

Hi, you reverted my edit about the main source of tourism in the Philippines which is natural attractions. What should I do to make it neutral? Isn't neutral about saying natural attraction as main source of tourism in the country which is a fact or should i rephrase it to make it more neutral? Willing to hear your response. Thanks a lot! CalGenuinePro98 (talk) 02:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

List of platform-independent GUI libraries

If I'd write articles on the GUI libraries currently without such would you file RfDs on them? Kind regards, U. M. Owen (talk) 14:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

If they do not meet WP:GNG, yes, I probably would start deletion processes. MrOllie (talk) 14:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

MKS Toolkit is a porting toolkit, not supporting more than 1 target platform. Would you revert me removing it?--U. M. Owen (talk) 14:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit on JK Rowling politics?

My edit made the lead more factually accurate. 2001:569:7E69:DF00:7CEC:4090:DE5B:618E (talk) 23:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

See WP:NOR MrOllie (talk) 23:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Please don't keep reverting my edits

Please don't keep reverting my edits on Finnish Generals. Dodecahedronclass (talk) 13:57, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

I've blocked the above user for 24 hours for violation 3RR. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG: This is almost certainly the same person as indef blocked User:Karajan1488 MrOllie (talk) 14:06, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. SPI filed. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:22, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Tulip

The edits you removed were actually a pretty big copyright violation. That text was word for word from the reference 13 feb provided. They did the same thing at LED lamp and it somehow went unnoticed even though they have racked up warnings about copyright. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 16:12, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

What to do about ruined RfC?

User:MrOllie has made substantial edits to the lead of this page while that same lead is under discussion in an RfC he is currently participating in. This has made the RfC untenable; not only have other participants who were already involved said that they will no longer participate if the lead keeps getting changed, but anyone new will not easily be able to judge what was originally under discussion. I have asked MrOllie to revert their edits, just above, and he has refused.

What makes the edits especially disruptive is that the MrOllie has added a new statement that purports to make claims about the state of academic literature based on one source that is NOT a systematic review paper that would qualify under WP:RS in this circumstance.There are 400 peer-reviewed papers on the opposite side of this author. A discussion of the merits of substantially changing the content of the lead should be happening in the RfC, not with unilateral edits.

Also, since I know MrOllie will make an issue of it, I want to point out that further down in the page, in the body of the article, I removed unsourced statements about medical treatments, which I thought would be completely uncontroversial and thus allowed under WP:COIU. (I have declared what I think is a weak COI - this page is about a widely published academic theory and I work for an institute that studies the theory.) MrOllie restored the lengthy paragraphs I removed - even though they obviously fail WP:MEDRS (and coatracking, as the page is about an academic theory concerning basic neurobiology, not medical treatments). Since MrOllie has objected, it’s now a contentious matter under COIU and I won’t edit these paragraphs again. I’ll just request to have them removed through a COI edit request.

At this point, I don’t know what to do about the RfC itself, since the disruptive behavior of MrOllie has derailed the discussion. I don’t want to post it again and start everything over. Maybe it should be restored to its original condition and the RfC relisted? Ian Oelsner (talk) 16:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

My user talk page is not a place to talk about me or register third person complaints. If you really want to pursue this, take it to WP:ANI, but read WP:BOOMERANG first. If you keep this up I will probably request that you be topic banned since you are obviously WP:NOTHERE to write an encyclopedia. - MrOllie (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Reverting Edits

I don't think so You need to revert edits, which you don't know about. stop the nuisance. Parth Arj (talk) 05:48, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Will series

Hello, ive got Edward Hayter approved and is an article and has proof ,why did you removed it? Veganpurplefox (talk) 22:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

It never should have been approved. I'll begin a deletion discussion when I have time. MrOllie (talk) 22:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Then talk with Cabrils, Spinster300 and Drmies . They all approved it Veganpurplefox (talk) 22:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

they are reviewers and worked hard to proves his notability. Veganpurplefox (talk) 23:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

That's not how the process works. Also, don't spam my talk page about this. MrOllie (talk) 23:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Why was EarthMC deleted?

The server is one of the largest towny earth servers on minecraft and thus deserves a wiki page Rtqz (talk) 00:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

You presented absolutely no credible claim of importance or reliable, independent supporting sources. one of the largest towny earth servers on minecraft isn't a criterion for inclusion here. You can read about the criteria we do use at Wikipedia:Notability. MrOllie (talk) 00:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Cullen328 (talk) 01:26, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thanks. That vandal fooled me right away. Thanks for having the back :") The Herald (Benison) (talk) 17:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Citations for efficiency of Fuel Cell vs ICE

Hello, The original article was asking for citations on the claim made in the article stating the a Fuel Cell engine is more efficient than an ICE. It turns out that I know something about this space and I added two citations (one by the US Government and one by the government of the State of California). Why did you remove them? Writingking (talk) 16:11, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

1) You added external links to the article, not citations. And 2) The links you added were about fuel cells in general. That article is specifically about the Toyota Mirai and Toyota's fuel cell systems. Citations must be specifically about Toyota's implementation, not fuel cells in general - see WP:SYN. MrOllie (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

OK. there is a quick remedy to your #1 point but thanks for pointing out WP:SYN (I don't know how to make it a hyperlink as you did!) Writingking (talk) 18:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

IEEE book added as a refernce to Artificial Neural Network page

I just added a book published by the IEEE as a reference to the application of ANNs. You deleted that and yet you let stand all the primary source references in that section of the article. The references 155 to 188 are ALL primary source references and even worse some of those references are conference papers which have not gone through any formal peer-review process! It appears that you prefer to keep those in and reject a book published by the largest engineering institution in the word which provides comprehensive review. What is the reason for this? Writingking (talk) 17:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a place to write encyclopedia articles, not to take note that books happen to exist. You are very focused on getting particular citations and books into Wikipedia, but that is simply not what an encyclopedia is for. I have not reviewed every citation in the article so I take no position on your other comment. MrOllie (talk) 17:56, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand your assertion "You are very focused on getting particular citations...” That is a biased, unsubstantiated and unnecessary assertion on your part. Wikipedia is constantly asking for money to be able to support itself. With my limited time, I have tried to help and contribute in the fields I happen to know something about. If you are an editor, you are not being unbiased, non-partial and non-prejudicial. The book I have cited is probably the best comprehensive single reference in this field. I request to let my edit stand and do something about 10+ of primary source and unvetted references in that article, as I mentioned. Writingking (talk) 19:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Heaping personal attacks on me will not help, and will not convince me to let your edits stand. You must learn how things are done here and comply with our policies and standards. MrOllie (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

You have not given one single reasons why 10+ unvetted single source references can stay but the one book I cited from the IEEE must be deleted. Nor have you stated any of your policies that supports this. Writingking (talk) 19:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

No, I explained. That you don't like the answer does not mean one wasn't given. I decline to repeat myself, because I stop the newbie-level explanations when the personal attacks start. Take your complaints elsewhere. MrOllie (talk) 19:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Writingking (talk) 21:21, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Board of Secondary Education, Madhya Pradesh

Hello bro, let me tell you that the external link which you have removed by naming it as a scam link is not in any way a link on this page of Wikipedia. This link has been placed only for the users. We have edited the page to keep track of its history. You removed this link without even checking,

You did not remove any changed or edited information that we have posted on this page, but you have removed this link by calling it a scam. You have done wrong. This is only for the benefit of the users and the external website to which the link has been placed. Right now it is working just like Wikipedia. It is not monetized in any way and is working only for the users. We have done a lot of research and have posted this link.

I have made a lot of changes in the language of both Hindi and English for this page. You name it as a scam only after checking its complete history. I will wait for your reply. If this is a scam, then I will link this link with my own hands. I will pick it up from

I take at least 2 to 3 days to edit any page and only then make a lot of changes in it. I don't change anything without doing anything like this. AshokSainiar (talk) 07:24, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

We don't use random blogs as citations, see WP:RS. Adding this same blog across multiple articles is linkspamming. - MrOllie (talk) 13:52, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation

It is just expanding on the points mentioned. I have just detailed it for simplicity. FreemanPhysiatrist (talk) 15:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing is required by core Wikipedia policy, see WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOR. MrOllie (talk) 15:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Artsakh

Can you remove Artsakh from List countries and dependencies by area ever since it doesn't exist anymore and it will be offically ceased to exist by 1st of January 2024? Mehmetberkgung (talk) 01:20, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Eric H. Cline

I agree with some of your deletion, but not all. I know quite a bit about Cline, and he is certainly a lecturer. Ok, this is his website,[4] but if you need other sources I'm sure they exist. He was part of this lecture program[5], gave these 4 lectures[6][7]. These lectures[8]. etc.

I'm not sure how we source "best known' for his Late Bronze Age work, but it is very accurate. Mentioned here[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvgiaOuNM4&list=PLxr_WkZJLZdHwZ-1zgNamJ_Lq2N8i2eGX&index=4&ab_channel=PSWScience. It's a bit "blue sky" for those who know anything about that period. Doug Weller talk 12:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I am mostly concerned about the POV language, the advertising of upcoming books, and the promotion of his youtube channel. There's been a log of single purpose editing on that bio, just making sure they know where the line is. MrOllie (talk) 12:46, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Async/await

I added the official Python Enhancement Proposals (PEP) link. I also added some basic terminology and succinctly explained what the Python code means. I believe it forms a good starting point for anyone looking into this. Moreover, the Python section suffers from a lack of details beyond the PEP name and author.

Why did you revert? Wikiforra (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

As I mentioned in the edit summary, the text was redundant and it embedded external links into the article text - Wikipedia doesn't do that. MrOllie (talk) 12:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I understand about the external links. What part of the explanation is redundant? I will fix that. Wikiforra (talk) 06:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

I have added a new source article that is related to the dead link

Hello sir, why didn't the article I edited change? The article I edited is this one blockchain. You said, "Crypto blogs are not usable sources." So, what kind of source is needed? Wouldn't it be better to have something rather than a dead link? Underratedman (talk) 11:49, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

See WP:RS for guidelines about sourcing and Wikipedia:General sanctions/Blockchain and cryptocurrencies for special restrictions on blockchain editing and sourcing. It is not better to replace a higher quality source with an unusable one, even if the higher quality source is a dead link - for one thing it forestalls the possibility that someone might simply fix the link to the higher quality source. MrOllie (talk) 12:06, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for helping out with the action figure image on the Action figure's talk page!! Babysharkboss2 was here!! 13:53, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Common Eligibility Test

@MrOllie Do you know anything or not or are you crazy?

Actually, I am telling you for the last time that I am not a link spammer, take special care of this, whatever information I have entered on this page related to it, I have to give its source link, where was this information taken from. Let me tell you, this is Wikipedia's policy.

Apart from this, I have made live again all the links which were deleted, but I have not given any third party website link, whatever link I have given and the source link is only gov.in, this website will be available. The link is not a spammer website, it is the website of Indian Government. narendramodi.in website is the website of Narendra Modi i.e. Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi. This page has been created by taking information from here only and there is no link to this page, that is why I have given the link of this page by adding more information.

National Recruitment Agency and Common Eligibility Test has been started by the Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi, and you are calling government websites as spammer. Please make the page edited by me live again. You have this work. There is very little time to do and stop calling Wikipedia creators like us link spammers. I am not afraid of anyone and will keep working on Wikipedia like this.

Before editing any page, do proper research about it, only then edit it and remove the information edited by anyone, I am thinking of making Wikipedia a better one and people like you with useless thinking. misunderstand my work

It was necessary to improve this page because all the links had been deleted. And the information etc. was incomplete, hence the page has been edited. I think there is some link of yours on this page, it has been removed by me, because of this I think the link is from a spammer. I will talk about it further on this page

Go to the page I have edited and make it live right now and work ahead thoughtfully. AshokSainiar (talk) 16:43, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

"Go to the page I have edited and make it live right now and work ahead thoughtfully"

I would recommend not threatening or bossing around another user. (yea, yea, I know, I'm talk page stalking right now.)

Babysharkboss2 was here!! 17:12, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I worked on this to improve the Common Eligibility Test page, I have been called a link scammer by them (@MrOllie), is it Wikipedia's policy to give this name to what is less than good, please research it.

@Babysharkboss2 Bro go and check the information I have edited on this page, I have edited this page in a great way, now you go and check what they have edited, now how useless this page looks.

Please check all the pages I have edited. I have not used any wrong information or any wrong way. I have tried to do a better job in my working time but I do not think that this creator is helping me to do a good job. will give.

I have not put any pressure on any creator, nor will I do so in the future. Even if I have to leave Wikipedia, I will not do such work and I like to work well, so I will keep working, and I will follow Wikipedia policy. I will work on that basis only. AshokSainiar (talk) 02:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

This edit [9], and [10] was adding a promotional link, aka spam. Don't use Wikipedia to promote your site. Ravensfire (talk) 02:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

im not saying your wrong, (but @Ravensfire pointed out your spam, which is wrong), I'm saying that you shouldn't threaten another user. whether they be gay, black, Asian, an admin, white, or anything, on wikipedia, everyone's treated as equals. Babysharkboss2 was here!! 03:20, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Indeed, every editor is expected to follow the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia and understand that edits contrary to those will be reverted, warnings will be left to remind that the edit was unwelcome and that continuing to edit contrary to those policies and guidelines will have consequences. Ravensfire (talk) 03:27, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I'd also like to point out that @AshokSainiar similarly threatend Another user, while bringing up MrOllie. Babysharkboss2 was here!! 16:05, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

References

You marked my edit as an unreliable source, could you please explain why?

I recently added a link on the DISC Assessment page which you removed on the 3rd of October at 14:36. The reliability link I posted refers to an independent validation by an internationally recognised university of the correlation between DISC and 16PF. Not only is this link extremely relevant to the section but the other links lead to dead pages. I if you could explain why you removed it? Mhousl1 (talk) 14:45, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I removed it because it was vendor spam (and full of blatant advertising), and an unreliable source, as you apparently already read. It was a link to a vendor's website, not an 'internationally recognised university' - and even if it were that is not how Wikipedia's sourcing guidelines work. The presence of dead links is not an excuse to add vendor spam. MrOllie (talk) 15:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Interesting. Other links do go to vendor spam on this page but they seem to be fine. If I resubmit the PDF as a direct link, will this suffice? The source material is an independent clinical study. Mhousl1 (talk) 15:51, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I have not reviewed every link on the page. At any rate if you have found other spam on Wikipedia that is not a reason to make the problem worse by adding more. Do not add the link again, in any format. MrOllie (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Agenda? You're a very busy man that much is clear. Mhousl1 (talk) 16:06, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

why won't you leave my edits alone? Why didn't you change other's edits rhat are not mine? 2600:1700:DD0:4880:ECCD:D48D:FBB2:97E5 (talk) 01:30, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

When you make the same error over and over, such as adding your unsourced opinions to articles, you can expect to be reverted over and over. I don't change other's edits because they are following Wikipedia's policies rather than trying to edit war in stuff that is against those policies. MrOllie (talk) 01:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Pingala

some one had recently added the image of Pascal triangle in pingala article without providing any reference can you verify it. Myuoh kaka roi (talk) 19:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

No. I have nothing to do with that article and I have no idea why you might have decided to approach me about it. MrOllie (talk) 20:12, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I added a paragraph about ethics in radiography could you please explain why you removed it?

So I don't make the same mistake again .. thanks Fatikatir (talk) 12:00, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

'medical-professionals.com' does not meet Wikipedia's sourcing requirements. It a self published corporate marketing blog set up to funnel search traffic towards their for-pay courses. We don't use advertising as sourcing. MrOllie (talk) 12:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

ok thank you .. Now changed the source to a reliable one, hopefully its accepted Fatikatir (talk) 12:24, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Seeking clarification on edit reversion - Why is this not considered neutral

Why is this not considered neutral when I'm using the terminology employed by reputable institutions like the International Colored Gemstone Association and even experts like Richard W. Hughes in their certificates? Isn't this essential information that everyone should be aware of? Due to the unique patterns and multi-color phenomenon, each gemstone is distinct, yet there is no photo on Wikipedia showcasing these multi-color variations together and when someone like me tried to put some multi color photo then you don't let it be there. I don't comprehend your concerns; it seems like you're undoing edits without thoroughly reviewing or understanding them. @MrOllie, my intention isn't to promote anything, but rather to educate people about and allow them to appreciate the beauty of multi-colored gemstones. Amandawhale12 (talk) 10:46, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Using the same terminology as people who are promoting a thing will tend to be non-neutral, yes. And decorating the article with numerous images is not 'essential information' either. From my perspective, it seems like you're editing without throughly reviewing or understanding Wikipedia's policies or editorial standards. educate people about and allow them to appreciate the beauty of multi-colored gemstones - that's saying 'promotion' with different words. MrOllie (talk) 20:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Now I do the edits please check again and when ever you have time I will appreciate if you tell me if it is neutral or no-neutral and if non-neutral which part you consider as non-neutral, thank you Amandawhale12 (talk) 06:33, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Why is this not a reliable source and why were the edits reverted?

Hi @MrOllie

I saw on my edits to this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing_communications   you reverted it when I used the following source: https://mailchimp.com/resources/how-to-measure-your-email-marketing-success/

What is wrong with using the above source? it is not a blog link, and mailchimp is a leader in email marketing. Wetlikewater (talk) 04:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't use selfpublished sources such as vendor advertising or marketing materials as sources. Please have a look at our sourcing guidelines at WP:RS. - MrOllie (talk) 14:29, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Accusation for undisclosed paid editing.

Hi!

You left a comment on my talk page about me disclosing if I am being paid to edit. I already answered you that I am not paid to edit, why then is a tag on the page? The page is not bias or promotional. I’m wondering how you got the impression of that.

I have asked you to kindly improve the page with your edits where necessary. Or kindly give me a feedback on the specific problem of the page so I can get it fixed rather than the false accusation. Thank you as I await your response. Onosco23 (talk) 17:30, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Simply put - I do not believe you. You started a draft about the 'Quizplus' website exactly as sockpuppet accounts were spamming that same website across Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 17:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Message for Mr. Ollie

Thank you so much for your help. I appreciate it. I need help changing the photo on Ray's page. I've gotten complaints at his official library that we using a photo on Wikipedia that we don't have the right to use. Also, it is not recent we have an official photo, put it which I uploaded to the comments and I attempted to update on the Wikipedia page, but it was removed. I don't know why. Les-chouettes (talk) 18:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I apologize some typos above. i'm happy to send the photo to an official editor. it is on wiki commons with the title "portrait of Ray Kurzweil"

also, he was not born in NYC. I can get you the precise PoB. we don't have substantial changes to the page just cleaning-up these legal issues. Les-chouettes (talk) 18:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Please do not duplicate your comments from the article's talk page here. Thanks! MrOllie (talk) 18:29, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

-:-: thank you kindly for your help !  :-:-

Sarah Black

SarahBlack @ KurzweilTech.com

library editor :: the Kurzweil Library

researcher to Ray Kurzweil

I'm an official employee. Les-chouettes (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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Message for Mr. Ollie

I see where you edited the Notable Patients section of the TMS (Tension Myositis Syndrome) page to remove the reference to Steve Ozanich. You sited the reason being an obvious self promotion. Well, this is not true. I read Steve's book and it was through his story and wisdom and God's mercy that I was healed of severe back pain. Steve's book stands to help a lot of people and removing it from this wiki page will likely harm a lot of people in that they will not find Steve's book or relief from their pain. I would appreciate a discussion of this if you still feel like this is not the truth. I will add the info about Steve and his book back to the wiki. Thank you!

Tbosarge (talk) 12:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, sections for 'notable' people include people who have prexisting Wikipedia articles. No article, no mention. Do not add this back to Wikipedia, if you keep it up you will be blocked for promotional editing sooner or later. MrOllie (talk) 12:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

But Dr. Sarno has no prexisting wikipedia articles and he and his books are listed. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here. Are you saying that Steve Ozanich needs to have a wiki page before he can be mentioned in the TMS wiki page? I want to understand and I think Steve's book should be listed on the TMS page as a reference. He was a patient of Dr. Sarno and his book is very helpful. Tbosarge (talk) 12:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

John E. Sarno <- article is right there. I am saying that Steve Ozanich is not a notable person and should not be mentioned on Wikipedia. His books do not meet our minimum sourcing standards for medical content and may not be used as references. You can find the requirements at WP:MEDRS. These requirements are quite stringent, the vast majority of books and articles do not meet them. MrOllie (talk) 12:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

So Steve needs a wiki article first and then he will be a notable person? Tbosarge (talk) 12:38, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

No. He would not meet our requirements for an article as given in WP:NBIO. MrOllie (talk) 12:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Objection to Proposed deletion

Hello @MrOllie, i tried referring the articles and try to notify you via the templates but found it a bit too complicated. Anyways, the reason you went ahead and sent Altcoins for proposed deletion was because it was single source and also not a reliable one. I went ahead and added more reliable sources. Hopefully everything's clear now. I also added Forbes previously since it was mentioned in the Reliable sources Page. Anyways the new sources i added were once again referred to this list. Please do contact me on my talk page/comment here if there's still anything wrong. PikaBoo (talk) 13:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Why evaluated a technical resource as"spam as cite"

How can a sentence specified as "citation needed" be perceived as spam when a documentation page with the most technical explanation possible is cited as the source? I would appreciate it if you could clarify this issue. Bengudincer (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Vendor web sites are self published advertising. They do not meet Wikipedia's sourcing requirements as explained in WP:RS. Do not use them as citations. MrOllie (talk) 16:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Question

can you update the speedy deletion pictures and can you add more templates? TroopGlitch29 (talk) 19:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I have no idea who you are or what you're talking about. MrOllie (talk) 19:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't agree is not a reason to revert one's edit

Your revert seems to fall under the "I don't like it" motive. You gave no reason for the revert. I think I am in right to write what I wrote. And that not everybody is forced to agree, essays themselves are not binding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbs_are_people_too&oldid=prev&diff=1181717401

--Kamil Hasenfeller (talk) 20:05, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Nah, we don't need trolling and vandalism. MrOllie (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

See ANI thread. [11] AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:19, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

About the edit I did on the "Wifi" article

Wifi is in fact an acronym for Wireless Fidelity and is a type of WLAN. Here's proof: https://www.newscientist.com/question/what-does-wi-fi-stand-for/ KEDJ1000 (talk) 20:29, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Did you read it? To quote from that article: You may have read, or made an educated guess, that Wi-Fi stands for “wireless fidelity” just as Hi-Fi stands for “high fidelity”. It would make sense but you’d be wrong. MrOllie (talk) 20:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Apology

I apologize in advance for disrupting the work of the "Wifi" Article (I will never trust the "people also ask" section of Google ever again without reading the full source itself) and would like to thank you for making Wikipedia a better, and safer place. I will look more into my sources in the near future and send you my kindest regards for being so nice and taking your time with pointing out my trial and error. KEDJ1000 (talk) 20:40, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Hey @KEDJ1000, for reliable sources, you could refer to this list of reliable sources, do read them thoroughly before citing them as a source though. PikaBoo (talk) 04:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@PikaBoo thanks KEDJ1000 (talk) 05:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Could you kindly advice why you reverted my weblink

The Weblink I provided calculates a complete great circle including composite sailing. Thats how its done on practical use. BRGDS EScho1302 (talk) 17:46, 27 October 2023 (UTC)EScho1302

Wikipedia isn't a link directory or a place to promote websites. See WP:EL for details. MrOllie (talk) 17:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Great Circle is used in navigation and I provided a link where a detailed visualized great circle calculation can be done with only two clicks in a map.

Of course its not part of the encyclopaedia. Its a weblink and encyclopaedia !

BRGDS

EScho1302 (talk) 18:06, 27 October 2023 (UTC)EScho1302

And we don't included random links to people's self published websites on this encyclopedia. It simply not the purpose of Wikipedia. Again, see WP:EL. MrOllie (talk) 18:08, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Its not my intention to promote a website.

BRGDS

EScho1302 (talk) 18:10, 27 October 2023 (UTC)EScho1302

Sounds like we're in agreement, then. Just don't add the link any more. And also, please stop replying in new talk sections. I'll see it if you reply in the same section.- MrOllie (talk) 18:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

What actually is your job here?

Sorry but I am new to wikipedia.

BRGDS

EScho1302 (talk) 18:13, 27 October 2023 (UTC)EScho1302

We're all volunteers here, nobody has a 'job'. If you have questions about what Wikipedia is or how it works, please visit WP:TEAHOUSE and ask them there. - MrOllie (talk) 18:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I read WP:EL and I don't see any reasons why the link should not be added.

Where can I complain?

EScho1302 (talk) 18:32, 27 October 2023 (UTC)EScho1302

No where until you figure out how to use a talk page properly. See Help:Talk pages and don't post here again if you can't figure how to do it without adding another section. - MrOllie (talk) 18:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

The link I provided deals with terrestrialnavigation including great circle sailing.

No advertisement or promotion of this site was meant. The site is completely free and

you don't even need to be logged in to use this site.

It contributes to the topic of great circle sailing in a very professional way.

So I thought it might be of interest to add this link. Thats all!

EScho1302 (talk) 19:03, 27 October 2023 (UTC)EScho1302

Proposed deletion of Threat intelligence

The article Threat intelligence has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Content forks

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bibamad (talk) 10:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Unethical

Why are you undoing my hard earned edits, even if I haven't compromised with editing ethics Yesterday I made a link at Bluehost because I have seen external link related to data server location at another hosting company page, I have added references you have undone most of that even if they are legit please reply Why? My inbais (talk) 21:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Because you've been adding linkspam, and you've been attempting to dodge AFC review by moving articles out of draft yourself. Both are hallmarks of paid editing in violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. MrOllie (talk) 21:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Color Blindness edit

I am new to editing on Wikipedia. Sorry if I am not doing something correctly. I have a rare genetic vision condition called BCM (1 in 100,000 people have it). It is so rare that I did not get a diagnosis until I was 57 years old. Very few eye doctors have any experience with it which means they misdiagnose it. My edit is trying to help other people that do not know what they have to find out. BCM was already discussed in the colorblind article but is hard to find and has some inaccuracies. I wanted to add a sentence to the beginning paragraph to help others like myself figure out what they have as easy as possible without having to wade through the rest of the article. For someone who knows they are colorblind and that there vision is generally bad but don't know what their conditions is, and neither does their eye doctor, one of the first things they would do is go to Wikipedia and look up colorblindness. However, the bulk of the article is talking about typical color blindness issues and is not easy to go through and figure out that they have BCM. The sentence I added is no different than the previous sentence which points out that Achromatopsia (another rare eye disease) is the complete absence of color vision and lists the added symptoms. I just tried to add the same kind of sentence for BCM to help people like me figure out what they have. Dean402 (talk) 01:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

AutoCAD edit

"Mr.Ollie" look why don't we revert to the " 15:55, 3 November 2023‎ GÓM talk contribs‎ 25,405 bytes −29‎ removing markup error undothank Tag: Reverted" edit. This edit fixed the markup error and had more information then the current version. The introductory paragraph was not well organized, and I seem to belive that my edit had improved it. The only problem was the markup error that "GOM" solved after me, so I belive the best option id for me to revert to this version. Peter Khazan Peter Khazanov (talk) 16:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding personal opinions and a competitor list to the lead of the article is not an improvement. The whole edit was a problem, not just the markup error. Direct any followup comments to the article's talk page, my user talk isn't the right place for this. MrOllie (talk) 17:04, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

External Links for Blue Cone Monochromacy

Please consider allowing the external links based on the statement in the Wikipedia Style manual in the section on external links that states "If the disease is very rare, then a manageable set of charitable organisations may be of encyclopaedic interest. In these cases, prefer links that provide information that is likely to be interesting to readers worldwide" Dean402 (talk) 19:22, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia is not a link directory, we do not promote organizations in that way. MrOllie (talk) 19:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi MrOllie,

I understand the general idea that Wikipedia is not a link list but why would this exception not apply in the case with such a rare disease. Turret's is used as an example in this section of the style manual for medical conditions and it is much more common than BCM. I only asked to include 2 links so it is should meet the criteria of a manageable set of links.

From the style manual for medical articles:

"If the disease is very rare, then a manageable set of charitable organisations may be of encyclopaedic interest. In these cases, prefer links that provide information that is likely to be interesting to readers worldwide, such as a detailed article on the specific topic. It is usually better to link to an external web page that lists such charities, rather than try to provide such a list ourselves. The 18 MrOllie/Archive 18 at Curlie template links to a directory based on the Open Directory Project that contains many such links. For example, on the Tourette syndrome page:"

If it does not apply to BCM can you please explain why and/or provide an example of where it would apply?

Can you also explain why my edit trying to add the links and your reversion do not show up on the Dean402 (talk) 23:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Something happened that booted me out of writing that last question.

I was trying to ask:

Can you also explain why my edit trying to add the links and your reversion do not show up on the View History tab? Dean402 (talk) 23:31, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

With respect, I am not the Wikipedia help desk. If you have questions about Wikipedia and how it works, you can ask them at WP:TEAHOUSE. If you want to discuss changes to a particular article, use that article's talk page, as you have been. MrOllie (talk) 23:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Bracket article "edit warring"

Hello, I would like you to revert your revert of my revision. You claimed it was "edit warring", probably based on a cursory glance. In reality I complied with the reason of the revert, by adding a secondary source. I urge you to take a closer look before making quick reverts, thanks. Peter Njeim (talk) 03:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

You are clearly repeating the same edits over and over, that is plainly edit warring. I will not be self reverting. MrOllie (talk) 03:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

removal of 'activism" additions

I do not understand the removal of this revision. This revision does not make a value judgement claim, which would require a third party reference perhaps.. It simply says that the individual has written extensively on these subjects and then gives 7 referenced examples.. It doesn't say that writing about this subject is good or bad, or that the individual is good or bad for having written them. It is a highly referenced addition to a section describing the activities of this individual. Not including it means the article is not up to date, since most of the activism in the past 2 years is described here. Please explain? 142.68.40.241 (talk) 22:35, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Combining primary sources is WP:SYN. You should be using the article talk page, do so from now on. MrOllie (talk) 22:36, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

More on Models

Good morning Mr Ollie. We were working on Model (person) yesterday and I agreed to implement option 2. However my latest response to you yesterday was blocked by some filter setting, please read my intended message to you here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives I have therefore switched computers as of today.

The next task I suggest is for you to set up a page Model (fashion) or alternatively Fashion model, so that we can move most of the fashion model information into that new page, as per your favoured option 2. 81.136.28.166 (talk) 10:17, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

No, I don't agree that is a good idea. MrOllie (talk) 11:50, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Please elaborate. You weote earlier you considered the "Model (person]" page a parent page which then links to the main page for each subtopic. Nearly each subtopic has a main page link, but a main page for fashion model is missing. It is your model (excuse the pun), and I need your support for taking this next step. 81.136.28.166 (talk) 13:09, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

You have misunderstood my comments. I decline to assist you. MrOllie (talk) 13:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Gentle reminder, this is your comment: "We already have an article on fashion models, this is the parent article of that one (and others). " Now the situation is that your comment turns out to be not quite right, because dedicated articles for fashion model, and for Instagram Model, do not yet exist. I did not realise this immediataely (and neither did you, evidently), but it became clear during my tidying up. Please consider setting up those two article pages - I can populate them with the current uncontroversial content fr fashion odle and for Instagram model. But if you do not feel inclined, then please recomemnd someone elde who can carry through your idea. It is alsways better to have a supporting partner, because your average non-expert Wikipedian lacks the courage or the expertise to boldly go foward. 81.136.28.166 (talk) 15:15, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Again, no. Do not ask me again. MrOllie (talk) 15:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Very disappointed

....to find out in my long absence you still haven't become an admin. chop chop PICKLEDICAE🥒 21:35, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

I have expressed too many opinons about things to go through RfA, I think. Welcome back, though! MrOllie (talk) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

I mean, that would make for the best admin. But I get it. I'm glad you still do the never ending spam fight though. I appreciate it. PICKLEDICAE🥒 21:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Very Disappointed removal adding content about Vasantrao Naik Page

We request you not to remove or exclude the objectively content you put in this Vasantarao Naik page. Vasantrao Naik is a great legend. Father of Green and White Revolution. His birth anniversary is celebrated at the government level. He has made a revolutionary contribution in Indian agriculture sector.Hundreds of revised books have been published on his work. His birth anniversary is celebrated every year in his memory especially in Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Telangana, Delhi. Not only this, they are considered as places of faith, inspiration. It appears that you have disrespected us by reverting the emphasis placed in this page. Wikipedia is an open knowledge platform for all readers around the world. It is necessary to bring the important information of great personality for the reader. thank you. KrushiN17 (talk) 04:03, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

See WP:NPOV. If you want to contribute to Wikipedia you must write neutrally. MrOllie (talk) 04:12, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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You have a surprising lack of CT alerts. I guess everyone agrees with your edits in contentious topic areas! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

I suppose while the topic might be contentious my views generally aren't. MrOllie (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Article: Problematic social media use

Hello @MrOllie,

I would like to make an inquiry about the changes you made to my edits on "Problematic social media use." Is it possible for you to explain in detail why exactly you completely reverted all of my changes. You just said vaguely, "Not better, return to the version that accurately reflects the sources."

I get what you mean, but I'm not sure if you've actually carefully looked over my changes, I made sure that the sources were linked and included in the changes that I made. Is it possible that you give me a more detailed explanation, I need your feedback, it will be very helpful. Thank you!

P.S.

[I'm a college student doing a project on Wikipedia, and your feedback is very important in helping me with my reflection. I would like to know what I could have done better, and why all my changes were reverted. I look forward to hearing back from you.]

Theophiliu (talk) 23:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

I did carefully look over your changes - they included no new sources, and were in general not as clear or well written as the article was before you altered it. I notice that you and your project are not registered with the Wikipedia Education program. Please direct your instructor to Wikipedia:Education_program. MrOllie (talk) 23:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Business Model edit

Dear @MrOllie,

I see that you deleted my addition of a newer ref to a review on business modeol frameworks. As a reader, I usually appreciate overview references, they are a quick intro to the literature. You deleted the ref that was already there (Krumeich 2012) and the one I added (Tsai 2022). I agree that having two overview refs is too much, but I propose keeping the newer one. What do you think?

Roelf-Wieringa (talk) 13:06, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

They didn't contribute anything to the article. Simply listing papers is off topic for the encyclopedia. MrOllie (talk) 13:12, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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Obviously not vandalism, read the associated talk page. MrOllie (talk) 16:03, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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You should really be engaging on the talk page, not adding nonsense templates to my user talk. MrOllie (talk) 16:10, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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READ THE TALK PAGES MrOllie (talk) 16:16, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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Again, read the talk page. Stop adding nonsense warnings. MrOllie (talk) 16:24, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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Dont find your reversions constructive. one sole is more appropriate IndItafeet (talk) 00:22, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Just stop edit warring. MrOllie (talk) 00:42, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

What makes an award notable?

I just added an award to Lawrence Krauss's page, and it was reverted after just 4 minutes with an "rm nonnotable award" comment.

Here is why I think the award is worth mentioning, and distinctly "notable":

• It is the primary award of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, a significant non-profit organization
• It's also listed in the (relatively short) List of Religion-related awards
• The award is listed prominently both on their website and on their Wikipedia page; my entry referenced both of these
• The speeches given during the awards ceremony were interesting and used as reference on the link
• The Emperor Has No Clothes Award page redirects to the FFRF's awards/events section.

In sum, the award is clearly notable and I would like to see it listed.

(I just noticed that there is discussion of this on the Talk page already. If the criteria is that the award has its own page, I could edit the FFRF page and create a separate page for the award, pulling out the contents from the FFRF page; that seems like unnecessary overhead though since it's clearly mentioned.) amertner (talk) 14:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

This has already been discussed on the article's talk page, your answers await you there. MrOllie (talk) 14:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

It says "Does the award have its own Wikipedia article? If not, then the award is non-notable".

So if I pull the section from the FFRF page out as a separate page and replace the redirect, the award becomes notable? amertner (talk) 14:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't think it is notable (as in meets our inclusion requirements for a standalone article), so I think if you tried to do that the resulting article would just get deleted. MrOllie (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Where can I see the inclusion requirements for a standalone article? It seems like a recursive argument. amertner (talk) 15:14, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Please confine comments to the article talk page, I prefer not to engage in redundant discussions like this. MrOllie (talk) 15:15, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Gazetteer Update

Please put back the link to fallingrain.com. It is a fantastic Gazetteer. Please go to the website to review instead of deleting additions. "Rv promo / treating Wikipedia as a link directory" is a ridiculous statement. I gave credit to the sources of the data that is compiled in Falling Rain (Credits (fallingrain.com)). Additionally, when I looked right now, you had deleted another worldwide gazetteer. Before I made edits, there were two instead of one. 57.140.16.30 (talk) 17:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia is specifically not a place to build external link directories or to promote websites. It's off-mission for the encyclopedia. - MrOllie (talk) 17:48, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

There is no promotion of their website, it is the most authoritative source for a gazetteer I have ever found. Remove all the sources of their data that I listed, but add the link to their gazetteer as an additional source besides

• Getty Thesaurus of Geographic Names
• Marine Regions

Which is the other thing you deleted. It didn't have a link, so maybe it needed to go, but wanted to bring it to your attention.

Take a look at fallingrain.com and judge for yourself if it's worthy to be added as a worldwide gazetteer. I have no affiliation with the website or any money to be made by getting it included in the wiki. I am a Geospatial Analyst and used it extensively when in or researching foreign countires. 57.140.16.30 (talk) 17:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if it is worthy, or if it is a great website. Adding links to stuff like that is simply not what Wikipedia is for. MrOllie (talk) 17:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Why are these gazetteers listed? Who was the authority that authorized these? I would like to send that individual an email to get fallingrain.com included.

List of gazetteers

Worldwide

• Getty Thesaurus of Geographic Names
• Marine Regions

Antarctica

• Composite Gazetteer of Antarctica

Australia

• Gazetteer of Australia

United Kingdom

• National Land and Property Gazetteer
• National Street Gazetteer
• The Gazetteer for Scotland
• Imperial Gazetteer of Scotland
• Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales

India

• The Imperial Gazetteer of India

57.140.16.30 (talk) 17:59, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

You don't see any difference between a list of links to other Wikipedia articles, and a link to a completely different website? MrOllie (talk) 18:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

How does someone in wikipedia find an actual gazetteer instead of a story about a gazetteer? 57.140.16.30 (talk) 18:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

By using some other website which is intended for that purpose, like google.com or curlie.org MrOllie (talk) 18:04, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Tourism

Hi, MrOllie. Was this what you intended to do? Your edit seems to be restoring, rather than removing, broken English. Bishonen | tålk 13:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC).

The diff is a little hard to read, it is easier if you look at what I was reverting, which was the addition of the sentence Tourism entails the movement of people to countries or places outside their usual environment for leisure, personal or business/professional. MrOllie (talk) 14:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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Bible verses

Mr Ollie - why would you not include the actual Bible verses instead of links? They're not that long and a lot of people are too lazy to even click on the links? Or do you have something against showing the actual Bible verses? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sk5878 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is based on secondary sources, and it is not appropriate to paste in content from primary sources (such as the Bible) like that. It's not how this site is written. MrOllie (talk) 13:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Mr Ollie - I have also deleted the Bible verses quoting the Seven Seals per Wikipedia rules and have quoted you on the edit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals Sk5878 (talk) 04:12, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring noticeboard or AE?

I'm working on a filing. Prefer one or the other? You know who. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I was just about to start the forms for edit warring myself. But you go ahead and I'll just add a comment. MrOllie (talk) 18:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Cool. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Posted. Still pulling together revert diffs from the past week. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation

Hi MrOllie :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Surprised?

Or not. This edit is from a school project. See also [12] and [13] for other products of it. DMacks (talk) 13:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

'Tis the season. I've been keeping an eye on another set where the professor apparently assigned them to all cite the same book on different articles. MrOllie (talk) 14:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi Mr. Ollie and fellow editors. I am the professor in the class to which you have both been attentive in removing student posts. I recognize that these new Wikipedians are in the early part of the learning curve. I have to say, the assiduousness of the editing is off-putting at this point, and you are actively discouraging the entry of young and diverse editors, which is the whole point of Wikipedia and part of WikiEdu's mission. While I have not used the WikiEdu for this particular iteration of the course, I have in the past. The students would like to communicate that they have carefully sought to avoid bias. If you have more specific feedback to offer that would help them be strong contributors to the site, please do share that. Deletions with vague or no explanation are creating barriers to students' participation and improvement of Wikipedia itself. I heartily hope that many of my students will continue to contribute, and the training will be worthwhile. Thanks, Nora Haenn, PhD NC Prof 20:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmhaenn (talk • contribs)

With respect, your students are writing opinionated essays which place greatly undue weight on opinions from individual sources, and then edit warring when others correctly remove those additions. This is a failure to meet basic standards here. We want to encourage new editors, but not to the detriment of the encyclopedia. - MrOllie (talk) 20:40, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I respectfully disagree, but I'm sure students will adjust if you point out specific language that is "opinionated." Unilaterally deleting entries without sufficient explanation is itself the beginnings of an edit war, and any student who undertook something perceived as an edit war did not do so intentionally (they actually learned the notion from your commentary). It's also amusing to learn their 250-word entries count as an "essay", but such seems to be writing on line. Thanks for reading. And happy editing, Nora NC Prof 21:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)nmhaenn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmhaenn (talk • contribs)

"Unilaterally deleting entries" is a normal process for editing Wikipedia, see WP:BRD. If they didn't know what edit warring was going into this assignment, I would say that their training has not been adequate. - MrOllie (talk) 21:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

The WP:TONE for an article, unlike some traditional essay styles, needs to be formal, direct and clear, impersonal and dispassionate, etc. Phrases like "almost everywhere one can imagine" and "more than one chef would not mind to point out" are not appropriate. See also WP:WEASEL. DMacks (talk) 00:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Britny Fox article corrections

Hi MrOllie. What type of references do you need for the article? I am Kato Peragine's wife, and I made the corrections as he toured the US with the band in 2007 alongside Billy Childs, Jamie Fletcher and Greg Polcari. I'd like to have the information on Wikipedia accurately represent this. 35.134.13.168 (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

See WP:RS, and the other links which are in the message already on your own talk page, but have a look at WP:COI first. As someone who is closely associated you should not be making changes to the article like that yourself. MrOllie (talk) 18:15, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Is there a way to submit a request for the page to be corrected by an editor? 35.134.13.168 (talk) 19:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Again, see the pages already linked above. MrOllie (talk) 20:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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niyi osundare

You removed standard biographical information from this author's page. All parts added that you removed are general pieces of information available online. None is promotional. Also, the page even seems now vandalized, with previous information, before these new edits, removed. Nistong (talk) 21:02, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I removed blatant promotion. On Wikipedia, WP:NPOV is a core policy. All articles must be presented neutrally. Accusing me of vandalism or making any other personal attacks is not going to give you a license to violate core policy. MrOllie (talk) 21:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

In the edits added, please can you point me to what you refer to as "blatant promotion"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nistong (talk • contribs) 21:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Everything I removed, as I just stated. MrOllie (talk) 21:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

You seem to be missing something. You did not just remove edits added today; you also removed information that had been there for years. Was there a reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nistong (talk • contribs) 21:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

The reason is: it was not in compliance with WP:NPOV. That an error has remained in an article for weeks or even a few decades does not mean it can never be fixed. MrOllie (talk) 21:46, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I have opened a discussion section about this at Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Niyi_Osundare MrOllie (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Molecular Quantum Entanglement

"Connor M. Holland et al., On-demand entanglement of molecules in a reconfigurable optical tweezer array.Science382,1143-1147(2023).DOI:10.1126/science.adf4272"

I also added to the Turkish Wikipedia that I had translated from English before.

would this be ok?

If you can please give a prompt answer, I will do both changes immediately

Uralunlucayakli (talk) 14:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

We should have a secondary source, that is still a primary source. MrOllie (talk) 16:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Uralunlucayakli (talk) 02:25, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Press release churnalism, also unreliable. Please direct any followup to the article's associated talk page, other interested editors will not find this on my user talk. MrOllie (talk) 03:42, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

References

Apologies

By the way, I have not written any article from scratch before so I am not experienced. What I have been doing so far was translating well-written articles to Turkish Wikipedia. Uralunlucayakli (talk) 05:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

A strange one...

Excuse me landing on your talkpage like this, but I am dealing with some absolutely bizarre (real world) fallout from your editing of the page Patrick Treacy since July 2023. I am based in Ireland and I have this week received a hard-to-follow (but nonetheless serious) legal "cease and desist" letter from Dr Treacy's lawyers, which in effect accuses me of being you on the basis of some misguided notion that I have taken over "his" page due to some grudge which leads me to revert edits with "sinister speed and specification" (sic.). That is absurd and I have dealt with it in a detailed reply pointing out - by reference to some facts that should have been obvious to the author of the letter - how you cannot be me and vice versa. However, what arises from the letter is that you are being accused of bad faith editing (because you are me, and not MrOllie). It also seems clear that the recent edit wars on the page between you and various socks are almost certainly edit wars between you and the subject of the page (the criticisms of your edits on the entry's history and talk page are strikingly similar in tone and language to the tone and language of the letter I received). Finally, there are allegations that were made about you in the context of the various "sockpuppet" responses, which I now understand to have been allegations about me.

The most pressing problem (for me) comes from the allegations that have been made against you/me. Some of them remain on relevant talk pages, while others can be accessed in page histories. All of the allegations are untrue given that I am not you and even if I were you, a significant number of them would still be untrue (I am not going to detail them here). My preference is to de-escalate the situation, if at all possible. Can you assist me with how to rectify matters? I can - I think - be contacted by email, assuming I have got my settings right. I am also happy to share the letter I received, as well as my reply, if that would assist anything.

YourBelgianThings (talk) 10:21, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

You have my sympathy about being drawn into this issue against your will. I don't know how I could assist you, though. I do not use email for Wikipedia-related correspondence, and I don't need to see any correspondence from Treacy on this matter. MrOllie (talk) 14:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to see if I can work out to blank the user talkpage where one of the allegations is made (I assume that doesn't get me in trouble with wikipedia) and then I might need to consider what further steps to take. I hope you and I can at least agree on the simple proposition that we are different people! YourBelgianThings (talk) 14:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Blanking talk page posts is against policy, so I would not do that. If there are egregious attacks on you somewhere that need blanking, the best thing to do is to report that at WP:ANI and let an admin handle the problem. MrOllie (talk) 14:28, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

My problem falls outside "chronic and unmanageable" - at least at the moment - and my hope is to de-escalate rather than wade through admin! Thanks for the steer, though. Given the nature of the issue here (and my preference for de-escalation), I would be grateful if you would consider blanking this discussion, but I accept that's a matter for you. YourBelgianThings (talk) 14:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

With no prior contribution history of your own, shouldn't we suspect that you are yet another sock of the banned editor? Chris Troutman (talk) 15:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

That would be a bit bizarre: I have made an account precisely so I can address the situation that has arisen for me. Without ending up in an unending "only the true messiah would deny his divinity" loop, how on earth to I ventilate the concerns that have arisen, when I an not someone with a Wikipedia account? YourBelgianThings (talk) 15:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

You claim "I have this week received a hard-to-follow (but nonetheless serious) legal "cease and desist" letter from Dr Treacy's lawyers, which in effect accuses me of being you on the basis of some misguided notion" and so you made a Wikipedia account to harass MrOllie about it. Why? If I got a subpoena to testify about being you, I could show up and deny the claims but as I'm not you there cannot be any evidence that I am. Am I going to then contact you and ask you to tell them that I'm not you? That makes no sense. Cothromas made those comments. Nobody is trying to sue you to prove that you are Cothromas. Actual lawyers would more likely contact WMF, who owns the servers, not some pseudonymous editor who is already blocked from editing. Occam's razor says that you are associated with the doctor/ clinic involved and you've come up with an elaborate story to excuse making an account to delete comments you don't like. I understand that you are new here, which is why you wrongly think this approach would work. Two editors have told you to take it to ANI and you haven't. I rest my case. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

CodeSignal

LOL -- nice work there. I saw your edits because I was following up on Paigerank, who made a ton of COI edits on mainspace pages and then a couple hours later tagged their own userpage with a paid-editing disclosure. I was ready to go through with a crowbar but I see that you've dealt with it. jp×g🗯️ 08:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Die Casting

Let me know, what Wikipedia sin did I commit when writing a section on low-pressure Die casting? You removed everything I wrote and haven't explained your reasoning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManufacturingEngineerStudySess (talk • contribs) 15:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

As I mentioned in my edit summary, you used a vendor's website (that is, their marketing materials) as a source. That does not comply with Wikipedia's sourcing requirements. - MrOllie (talk) 15:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Some engineering topics (like specific types of device) are difficult to source because manufacturers and trade publications provide fairly authoritative information on the subject and are often the primary experts (i.e. if we're making an article about the types of linear encoders, why wouldn't we mention Mitutoyo?) There's a good number of sources to reference a section about low-pressure die casting, like from Campbell 2015 in this list of papers. jp×g🗯️ 02:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

If manufacturers are the only ones providing a given bit of info we can safely leave it out. MrOllie (talk) 02:50, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

VPN

Just to note, on Virtual private network, I didn't add the bit about encryption. The diff might look a little misleading, but I just moved that bit outside of the other citation and added the citation needed (while also removing a misleading sentence). Didn't see the point in totally removing the encryption bit, since I didn't think it was totally misleading. But I'm fine with it being removed too. Casiotone Nation (talk) 04:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Security Guard

Hey, at first you removed my contribution due to directory issue, that I linked Security guard . I apologize. After that I again added some parts that does not include the company list , directory link but some basic information that a association is there to control the private security industry in Bangladesh. It is true and . would you please kindly verify the fact and keep my contribution in the place. thank you Asifurrahmankhan (talk) 16:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

It was still blatant advertising and it should not be in the article. Kindly stop misusing Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 16:40, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Review Required

Hey MrOllie, I saw that you deleted my contribution. Can you please explain why? I would appreciate it if you could give me the reason. I contributed to YouTube BrandConnect and Prompt engineering. FactsFolio (talk) 14:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

You added opinions to what is supposed to be neutral text and embedded inappropriate external links into the articles. MrOllie (talk) 14:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

what do you mean by neutral text? so we have to be baised about something?

I will remove all the links I have added. FactsFolio (talk) 14:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I mean that Wikipedia is not a place to insert your opinions, see WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. The links have already been removed. Note that your edits were not proper even without the links. MrOllie (talk) 15:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Sir the content I have added do not have any editorial bias because both the topics are related to tech and there is no much space to add bias. FactsFolio (talk) 15:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

That is simply not true. MrOllie (talk) 15:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

L.A. Guns

Please stop removing the information I kept adding back at L.A. Guns. It's not promotional material, it's information and facts confirmed by Tracii Guns himself. 2600:1700:46B0:3CC0:5C3C:7FF7:6705:E8E7 (talk) 15:34, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

It's blatantly promotional. We wouldn't cut and paste advertorial statements from any other business into an article like that. MrOllie (talk) 15:37, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

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Seasonal greetings!!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024!

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Breakdancing Article Correction

Hey, MrOllie. I saw you did some changes to my part of the breakdancing article. I just wanted to say that DJ Cool Herc didn't create breaks but he extended them. Breaks have been a thing in music before Cool Herc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshower (talk • contribs)

Whitelist the mokoenergy.com

Unfortunately, some of our competitors have added the domain Mokoenergy.com to irrelevant articles in an attempt to place our website on a blacklist. This action was not within our control, and we would appreciate your assistance in removing our domain from the blacklist and adding it to the whitelist. Arsalan9644 (talk) 14:10, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Metaroller

Hello @mrollie,

I hope you're doing well. I've noticed the edits you made on our pages, but it seems there might be some inconsistency with some of the changes. Please, when editing the pages, carefully review the content and try to adhere to the specified rules.

If you need any assistance or have questions, feel free to ask. Let's collaborate to create better content together.

Thank you, and I appreciate your understanding in advance.

Best regards,

Metaroller — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metaroller (talk • contribs) 23:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Just stop trying to promote your company on Wikipedia, thanks. - MrOllie (talk) 23:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

History of Mountain Biking revisions

Hello @MrOllie,

I have endeavored to edit the wiki page Mountain biking in the 1900s-1960s section to include a mention of the Larkspur Canyon Gang group. Having been Inducted into the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame with them in 2009, I can attest they were instrumental in advancing the mountain biking movement and deserve to be mentioned for their role in its history.

I have tried to follow your previous suggestions and my latest revisions included quotes with links and footnotes to authoritative sources, but still, something about it caused you to remove it. I would appreciate it if you would let me know how I can properly make this contribution.

Thank you, @Farallon5 Farallon5 (talk) 19:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:RS and WP:COPYRIGHT. Self published websites are not "authoritative sources" as Wikipedia defines them, and copy and pasting as you have been doing is a blatant violation of copyright. You have a lengthy message about this on your own talk page already, please go back and read that, including clicking on the links in the message. MrOllie (talk) 19:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Revertion of edits

Dear sir, Which one of the sourcers i added in business were unreliable ? I would be very grateful if you could tell me ,so i can find reliable sources. Thank you . @MrOllie Kavehkdf1402 (talk) 23:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Your addition was redundant with existing text and was cited to a collection of dictionary definitions - Wikipedia doesn't repeat dictionary definitions in that way (see WP:DICTDEF). If that's the content you're here to write, you should consider working on the wikitionary project instead. MrOllie (talk) 23:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, I have to say that the part I added was not redundant or superfluous, but it was a summary of the words that are used to define the business and makes this definition simple. Also, regarding the sources, I would like to say that in the previous few sentences, all the sources have referred to the dictionary!! Kavehkdf1402 (talk) 00:16, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Spider-Man's speed

Hi, just to clarify, why did you revert my edit on the Spider-Man page about his super speed? The reference I used comes from Marvel.com, so it is certainly reputable, and it very clearly says that he can move at superhuman speeds in the sidebar section which lists all his powers. The main text of the source also mentions his speed. And the Spider-Man: Back in Black Handbook, which was published by Marvel, also states that Spider-Man can run several times faster than even the fasted non-superpowered human, which is the literal definition of superhuman speed, so I could also include this as a reputable source.

Can I also ask why you removed the Marvel Comics businesspeople category which I added? I added it because of Parker Industries. The Fictional business executives category is already included on the page, so Spider-Man would certainly be counted as a businessperson.The Editor 155 (talk) 10:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

For the reasons already extensively explained on the article talk page. MrOllie (talk) 13:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Reversion of edits

Why do you keep reverting my edits What have I vandalised On the Dasam Granth wiki it states that it is disputed in the community and this is the same for the sarbloh Granth but only the sarbloh is stated as disputed and not the dasam Granth Dopplegangman (talk) 20:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

You keep deleting properly sourced content and entering unsourced materials. Neither is proper. You need to stop edit warring, respect our policies, and discuss potential changes on talk pages instead of attempting the same edits over and over. MrOllie (talk) 21:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I gave a source Dopplegangman (talk) 17:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

You are, however, still edit warring. You must stop and get agreement for your proposed changes on the article talk page. (not my user talk page or anyone else's, that is the wrong place for this). MrOllie (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Reversion of edits

Hi, you've recently removed[14] the version table from Go (programming language), with a reference to WP:NOT. Would you mind elaborating on what part of these guidelines you are referring to? It was inspired by a similar table on Node.js. Also as a suggestion for future reversals, may I ask you to link the paragraph in the guidelines directly? Thanks :) Mpldr (talk) 10:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

See WP:NOTCHANGELOG. MrOllie (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply. What you removed was not a changelog, but rather an overview of what version is supported and which version isn't. As pointed out, this is also maintained for other programming languages, so I'd be interested in why this does not apply to Go. Mpldr (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

What I removed was exactly the sort of off-mission stuff that WP:NOT tells us should not be on the encyclopedia. If you have found other noncompliant stuff on Wikipedia, the correct course of action is to remove the noncompliant stuff, not make the problem worse by adding more. MrOllie (talk) 22:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

You reverting my changes without precise

Hello MrOllie,

You have reverted several of my changes for ambiguous reasons such as: University of Texas at Dallas ‎ Reverted 1 edit by LiteFrozen (talk): Apparent paid edits Terracotta, Inc. ‎ Restored revision 1184059600 by BlueshiftMonsoon (talk): Apparent paid edits

User talk:LiteFrozen ‎ General note: Disclosure requirements for paid editing under the Wikimedia Terms of Use.

Digital identity ‎ Reverted 1 edit by LiteFrozen (talk): This is not an improvment, and includes obvious errors. current

Please explain which "Errors" you are pointing out that need to be corrected so I may correct the errors to your standard.

I am also not a paid editor, please stop tagging my edits as "apparent paid edits".

Looking forward to your response! LiteFrozen (talk) 01:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

If you can't read what you're writing and notice the very obvious errors on your own, I'm not going to be able to help you. Whether you are paid or not, do not add obviously promotional content to Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 01:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Excuse me? We're supposed to be here to work together to get these articles in great condition. What is going on? Why are you so hostile?

@Philipnelson99 I'm not sure if you have any experience here, but is there a resolution group for @MrOllie deleting my edits?

He deleted the CEO name from Terracotta, Inc, an article Wikipedia suggested I update. LiteFrozen (talk) 01:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

You made that article more promotional than it was when you found it, and removed the advert tag. That is not helping to get the article in 'great condition'. I won't be responding here any further, since I prefer not to comment on talk pages in parallel. Do not post here any further. MrOllie (talk) 01:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Reversion of edits

You have reverted my edits again to claim that Sikhism was started in he punjab religion of India when India wasn’t a thing yet and Guru Nanak was born in current day Pakistan punjab as well as this you take down sourced points about the dasam and sarbloh Granth when I have came to an agreement with Joshua Jonathan like you said to Dopplegangman (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Your edits of last September

Dear User talk:MrOllie, Thanks for your systematic interventions of last September 2023 in the pages

• Sensitivity auditing
• Sensitivity analysis
• Sociology of quantification
• Ethics of quantification
• Post-normal science
• Quantitative storytelling

I left comments for you in the relevant talk pages, and hope you can attend to them in due course. All the best. Andrea Saltelli Saltean (talk) 10:29, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Plaatsen aanvullingen op de Engelse versie van Wikipedia

Waarom wordt elke aanvulling die ik plaats op de Engelse versie van Wikipedia verwijderd, aangezien het allemaal video's zijn, die ik zelf vaak microscopisch gemaakt heb, door Mr. Ollie Bert Grijsen Laboratorium en Hobby (talk) 18:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't read whatever language this is. MrOllie (talk) 19:35, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I want to ask why all my recent contributions has been removed?

I have been working in a hospital laboratory for 41 years, where I make presentations and videos for my colleagues and students, all of which are educational, without to be advertising or for promotion.

I enjoy sharing my laboratory knowledge, so I would like to ask you to repost my videos. Thank you in advance for this.

Bert Grijsen Bert Grijsen Laboratorium en Hobby (talk) 23:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi MrOllie. I think most of the videos they uploaded and added to the articles seem fine (like File:Agglutinatie rode bloedcellen libtheora.ogg, which are purely for demostration purposes and there is no analysis involved). A few other videos like File:Pseudothrombocytopenia blood test using the phase contrast microscope libtheora.ogg are more like original research and are not acceptable though. The sentences that they added also indeed involved original research. Let me know if you think otherwise. 94rain ^Talk 06:12, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

You removed the suggested changes I added. I added more test results to the page. What's wrong with it?108.26.217.115 (talk) 05:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Grusch

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/jan/14/what-happens-if-we-have-been-visited-by-aliens-lied-to-ufos-uaps-grusch-congress nytimes.com/2024/01/12/us/politics/ufos-aliens-classified-briefing.html Panini-eskimo-Manitoba (talk) 21:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea why you would post this on my talk page, but please don't do it again. MrOllie (talk) 21:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Disruptive behaviour in recent edits of Internet_security and Browser_security

Your recent reverts of edits in Internet_security and Browser_security have been made without valid reasons and are disruptive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.54.131.40 (talk • contribs)

See WP:NOTHOWTO, WP:RS, and WP:ELNO. Stop edit warring to attempt to add that inappropriate link, that is what is disruptive here. - MrOllie (talk) 13:53, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic The external reference that I added is not an inappropriate link as it contains free material such as source code and explanations of the risks of a security vulnerability. Thank you.109.54.131.40 (talk) 14:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

We'll see how that goes for you. MrOllie (talk) 14:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

The external links contains free source code, free information and a free analysis of a vulnerability that you are trying to censor by reverting the changes without a valid reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.54.138.183 (talk) 14:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

The 'valid reason' is that the site does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standards for either use as a source or an external link. Your site is simply not the kind of thing we link, just stop trying to spam us. If you keep this up you can expect the pages to be protected from editing by IPs and new users. - MrOllie (talk) 14:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

• The IP has been blocked from the article; sorry to post this notice here but their address is rapidly changing, but they're clearly watching this page. Wikipedia does not provide technical advice and is not a repository of links. I will block sitewide if the links are posted elsewhere. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks Ivanvector, no worries about posting here for purposes of communication with the IP. MrOllie (talk) 14:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Nefazodone

Which citations were not MERS compliant?

All the citations were from medical sources. As to any NPOV, I can provide cites for those. Biolitblue (talk) 22:25, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Any discussion about this belongs on the article talk page. MrOllie (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Biolitblue (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Filing of Complaint on the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

I filed a complaint about your conduct on the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Biolitblue (talk) 22:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Noting for the archives how this ended: [15]. MrOllie (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

New evidence/sources removed?

Sources and new information we added to various Wikipedia pages were removed and hit with the tag "Apparent citespam / needs WP:MEDRS".

The article that was added to these pages was a newly published article (hence it being posted on multiple pages at the same time) and was peer-reviewed by scientific experts. Any further explanation for this being removed? 192.184.234.20 (talk) 19:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I guess this is in reference to the edits listed here. It was being repetitively added across several articles and did not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for sourcing biomedical content, as given in WP:MEDRS. Are you associated with the authors of that paper somehow? MrOllie (talk) 19:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

We are associated with the organization that made the discovery that was being cited. It was posted on multiple articles because it is new information. Many of the articles it was posted in were also not medicine-related articles (e.g. Drosophila, OXR1, etc.) or were not posted in medical sections of those articles. Other sources in those articles include primary articles, so it is confusing why this one was removed if it is due to WP:MEDRS. 192.184.234.20 (talk) 19:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Please see WP:COI. You absolutely should not be writing about this on Wikipedia. We are not a vehicle for your organization to promote itself. MrOllie (talk) 19:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Noted that this is a COI, but it is quite an over-reach to call posting peer-reviewed science "promoting oneself." Just out of curiosity, if the people who are scientific experts on a subject are not supposed to post about their own field, doesn't that dilute the quality of what does get posted? Since it would instead be posted by people who are less informed on a subject? 192.184.234.20 (talk) 21:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia has had this policy for years and we find that quality is not diluted. Experts who are here to build an encyclopedia are generally familiar with a wide range of sources of diverse authorship and have little need to cite themselves. MrOllie (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Update software company type

Hello User talk:MrOllie

i would like to contribute in software company wiki

I have made some changes added some examples as other type has examples

can you tell me what guidelines I have not followed?

Rakeshrb4u (talk) 02:00, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

You've been adding blatant linkspam. You've already been linked to the guidelines you have been violating on your own talk page. MrOllie (talk) 03:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Why deleted this Article?

why deleted this Article? Vivekroy0900 (talk) 14:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

It has no reliable sources. Wikipedia isn't a venue for promoting a person like this. MrOllie (talk) 14:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft Article on General Collective Intelligence

I removed your comments after addressing them. As indicated in the comments on the article itself, please provide justification for reinserting your comments again if you decide to do so. You or others potentially working with you have reinstated the comments multiple times without providing justification though I have requested that you do so multiple times. This is a completely different article with zero content reused. The comment is simply false. It doesn't make any logical sense to apply the exact same comment with no justification for doing so to an entirely new article. I would kindly appreciate if you could please remove this comment or justify your reasons for reinstating it on this entirely new article so that I might address any issues you raise. The former article that this comment and that the previously inserted maintenance template applies to has been deleted and completely rewritten. The current article does not read like an essay and does not contains any external links in the body of the article. For that reason I've removed the maintenance template. I have also removed the "Conflict of Interest" flag as the article does not mention myself, my work, or any organization I have ever been affiliated with. I have also removed the flag that this article duplicates content from the collective intelligence article on Wikipedia since I have made it clear how the concepts differ. Before adding these comments again I humbly request that you please identify the conflict of interest, please identify where the article "reads like an essay", and please identify where this article duplicates existing content, as this is a completely different article with no content reused from the previous version that these comments were levied at. CognitiveMMA (talk) 01:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleting comments, maintenance templates and notices of previous AFC declines is not done here. You've got to stop doing that. It is not up to you to decide if they have been addressed, you do not own the draft. MrOllie (talk) 01:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for being you!

Amidst all the chaos of the current “biryani” article fiasco (who knew a food dish could get people so riled up?), I appreciate you, an unrelated third-party who I don’t know, being willing to stand against the unsubstantiated accusations and threats of banning and administrative intervention made against me. Regardless of whether or not you actually approve of the edits I want to make, I think your desire to ensure Wikipedia remains as a fun and constructive community is laudable so please take this cookie. Take care!! TheCherryPanda (talk) 19:37, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Move a draft to mainspace?

Could you possible review my draft and move it to the mainspace? Thank You 184.180.191.166 (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

You should use the WP:AFC process rather than message individual editors. MrOllie (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Proof

Dear MrOllie, You sent me a message that said that I published original research. Please tell me what exactly I wrote that did not have a reliable source. Sincerely, Evan O'Neill Evan Y. O'Neill (talk) 19:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Evan Y. O'Neill: In this edit, this edit, this edit, and this edit you fail to include a citation. WP:V requires that you provide sources along with any content you add. Simply because you believe something is true does not excuse the requirement to cite a reliable source for your claim. Adding content without a source is probably original research, that is you saw it for yourself so you believe it to be true. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:40, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Dear Chris Troutman,

Thank you for correcting me.

Sincerely, Evan O'Neill Evan Y. O'Neill (talk) 20:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hi, multiple times I have asked you to state authoritative sources which represent the wide public regarding the definition of a hyperloop. You brushed off my questions. I also saw that you added a source where which supposedly is in support of your claim, but few sentences later explicitly mention that the concept of hyperloop moved on and uses maglev. Can you please comment on this. BikingFish (talk) 09:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Keep discussion about this on the article talk page, where it belongs. I don't hold parallel discussions on multiple talk pages. MrOllie (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft on General Collective Intelligence

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. CognitiveMMA (talk) 02:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Removal of my edits on Open-hand strikes

Hi, may I know why you reverted my edits on Open-hand strikes? I only stated that Open-hand strikes is found in chinese martial arts and okinawan martial arts, and it is clear that palm and forearm strikes are found in those martial arts. Just wanted to be more specific in what martial arts actually teach open-hand strikes. Ryu Paksu (talk) 12:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Ryu Paksu: You did not cite any sources when you added that content, which is why you were reverted. Wikipedia requires reliable sources for content; we cannot write whatever we think is true. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

lol then i wonder why the whole Open-hand strikes article has ZERO citations, would you remove the whole page like that too? No you wouldn't, because Wikipedia pages like that are meant to be for fun reading, it's not an informative article. So, can i request that i add further details that are obvious and true to the page? Ryu Paksu (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

The solution to a problem (uncited content) is not to make it worse. MrOllie (talk) 13:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Noting here that this turned out to be Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Uritol again. MrOllie (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Reverted my article due to use of primary content

Hi MrOllie, You reverted all the changes I made in the "Computer Security Incident Management" article due to too much detail and the use of primary sources. In reading the prohibitions against primary material, those appear to be related to biographies. I am describing published incident management frameworks. The prohibitions don't seem to apply. Also, the original article has very little content and the article is classified as only a starting article that needs more detail. It is unclear how my content would have been rejected, considering it is on par with content in other technical articles. Actually, it has much less specific content. The Computer Security article is one that has a lot more detail. CyberKravMaga (talk) 18:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

You have misread - the policy (WP:PST) applies to all articles, not just biographies. To quote in particular: Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them. Wikipedia is not a place to add large amounts of detail or examples based only on primary sources. And your other source is a self published book - also not a good source. MrOllie (talk) 19:04, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the links I added

Hi MrOllie, I understand your concerns about the links I added to the page. My intention was to provide users with the most informative resources. If you find that the links do not align with Wikipedia guidelines, I will make sure to follow all the necessary guidelines in the future.

I wanted to kindly request that you reconsider your decision and remove the spam flag for my links & I wont be adding them now.

Thank you for your cooperation!

Infodevz (talk) 08:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Question about your edit

Hi, MrOllie. Thanks for fixing my "malformatted link" on the John Campbell article. Obviously I need to sharpen my citing skills. I have a question about the "unreliable site" designation. Is the content unreliable or the link or something else. Thanks for any clarification. Jane Digby (talk) 21:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Medicalnewstoday.com is not a reliable source of information. Also, the article you were trying to add doesn't even mention Campbell, so I don't think it should be placed in the further reading section even if it had been from a reliable outlet. MrOllie (talk) 21:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Jane Digby: For a list of often used sources and how our community feels about their reliability, please see WP:RSP. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:30, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Talk on pascal triangle invention in india

Here are the source pls do research on this topic and give me insight on it. <<links redacted>> 122.161.48.206 (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea why you're posting blog links on my user talk page, but please don't do so again, I am not interested. - MrOllie (talk) 01:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you but can you pls revise the history sections in which you remove india one.

<<link redacted>> 122.161.48.206 (talk) 01:31, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

No. - MrOllie (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh, you mean the Pingala thing. Nowhere in his work does an example of a Pascal's Triangle appear. Even one of the links you just posted here is clear about that. MrOllie (talk) 02:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

No user page?

Hi @MrOllie, we found that you own user page but it is now a redirect to "Talk" section. Did you have this page before or blanked by yours or other users. Sincerely, Shonyx (talk) 13:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

The redirect is a deliberate choice made by me. MrOllie (talk) 13:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Do not edit it. MrOllie (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Question: Is creating a your own user page isn't that hard? Shonyx (talk) 13:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't see how that is relevant. MrOllie (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Today, there are more than 7,000,000 users over the world has a user page but do you want to confirm that your user page has a redirect? Comment "Confirm" "De-confirm" Shonyx (talk) 13:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm not interested in discussing this with you further. MrOllie (talk) 13:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Check my user page. Shonyx (talk) 13:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Shonyx, you need to stop pestering MrOllie. He has answered you quite clearly, and his redirected userpage is no business of yours. Bishonen | tålk 13:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC).

• She is sign off the talk page. Please wait...*

Shonyx (talk) 13:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

• Signed off*

Shonyx (talk) 13:57, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

File:Shonyx-yt-profile-pic.jpg Currently offline Shonyx (talk) 14:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Do not edit my user page or my user talk page again, for any reason. Thanks in advance. MrOllie (talk) 14:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Question About Your Edit: Event Cameras

Hi,

I saw your edit here labelled "rm spam magnet / product list per WP:NOT". I'm not quite sure how the list belongs to the WP:NOT category. Could you please elaborate on the edit?

Thank you. Blurryface5178 (talk) 18:22, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

WP:NOTCATALOG - lists of available products or vendors shouldn't be made on Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 18:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Jackpot Records

Hi, Can you please wait for 2 hours. I have something to test out. 116.90.113.141 (talk) 17:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

No. Your link spam is not welcome. MrOllie (talk) 17:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Question about your edit: Pharmacogenomics

You reverted my edith with the comment "Rv extlinks in article". I used the same level of external links as previous edits of the article but I'm happy to do the edit without any external links. I assume that is OK? ValRon (talk) 14:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

I removed more of it. Wikipedia isn't meant to be a directory of external resources like that. Anything that is added should be added without external links (and the self promotional quotations present in your additions) and only when it is cited to independent secondary sources. MrOllie (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough. The reference was an independent source though. ValRon (talk) 10:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Marco Cianni for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Marco Cianni is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marco Cianni until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

BuySomeApples (talk) 23:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Keyword article edit

Dear @MrOllie, I strongly disagree with your recent reversal of my contribution to the Keywords article. Removing half of the article, including additions by other users, is a sheer act of vandalism. If you somehow find that the link refs I used are against wikipedia rules, kindly make a point. Otherwise such behaviors as simply removing the text is disrespect to anyone adding info on wiki. Wishing you a great day. Irrevocabile tempus (talk) 13:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I removed nothing that was added by other users. Kindly stop spamming links to textvisualization.app. MrOllie (talk) 13:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

It is regretful to see when parts that are not understood by non-experts are being removed or edited, especially when it comes to removing citations to published research. Such behavior is unacceptable and explainable to me. Irrevocabile tempus (talk) 16:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Just stop adding mentions of yourself and/or your websites and work to Wikipedia. That is not what this site is for. MrOllie (talk) 16:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Voice cast

You haven't replied to my question. Why remove the Voice Cast from Atlantis The Loast Empire? 102.222.30.213 (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

This is the first time you have asked this question in a place someone can respond. It was flagged as a copyright violation because it was apparently copied from another website. Check your own talk page for details, or look at the giant notice at the top of the article. - MrOllie (talk) 14:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

No-one is objecting to the voice cast, what there is an issue with is you copying and pasting directly from another website, violating the copyright of the other site. If you create the list of voice actors in your own words, there's no issue. Nthep (talk) 15:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Seven Seals

That was Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Brad Watson, Miami. Doug Weller talk 20:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Response

Hello there. You're garnering quite the attention over at Talk:Rent regulation, for being suspicious, a vandal and a bot. What on Earth is going on over there? Synorem (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Just one angry IP user. MrOllie (talk) 12:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Removal of content on Cyber-physical systems

Hello @MrOllie, I added material to CPS use case in digital agriculture that you removed. This is not a commercially oriented addition, though there was one link to a product as an example of how CPS is being used in agriculture. I also had link to a non-profit consortium in this space.

Would it be acceptable if I add some other examples of commercial advancements in this space? For the record, I do not have any affiliation to the company whose link I had put.

Techphile (talk) 20:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

We cannot use self published websites or press releases as sources, and mentioning particular vendors or projects amounts to inappropriate promotion. Adding more examples will not help, Wikipedia isn't for making vendor lists. MrOllie (talk) 20:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

NearoNation

Could you please check my message at User_talk:2601:152:A82:5A00:988B:11D7:4832:D347 2601:153:C400:3F30:5D07:DA0:3BDE:CD96 (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Sigh....

I am done with all this bullcrap....time to turn over a new leaf.... 😭😭😭Yuritolol (talk) 06:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

14_2_2024

Good morning, dear sir. This article deserves to be expanded and improved for the better. Greetings to you, have a nice day. कटासमुला (talk) 00:35, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Certificate of disposition retrieval methods

Dear @MrOllie, I strongly disagree with your recent reversal of my contribution, I mentioned 3 different ways to extract certificates of disposition linking to official government websites and companies/ngos that help immigrants extract their CoDs. Please explain what goes against the law, or otherwise I am going to add back the whole paragraph you deleted. Thank you so much for your attention to this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.138.143 (talk) 04:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

This was already explained on your own user talk page - you used an advertising link as a citation. To be clear, do not advertise products like that, with or without external links. - MrOllie (talk) 04:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Dear @Mr Ollie

Mr Ollie, please do not delete Ucok Baba's name, even without the article using Indonesian, but Mr Ollie should use the google chrome application, it provides google translation automatically. I do not agree with the act of deleting arbitrarily on the grounds of racism even though Mr Ollie does not know the character. And also I use my own words, but before that, I apologise to you, I don't know the rules or policies of making or spreading people's names in a disrespectful way. But Mr Ollie, I would like to ask you to please tolerate what I made on wikipedia with the title of the baba's name. If Mr Ollie deleted it, could you please explain? Why did you delete it on the grounds of no English article? After all, Mr Ollie doesn't know if you don't have the google chrome application or deliberately don't want to read the article. In google chrome already provided the translation tool, sir. That's all the questions I gave Mr Ollie. Thank you. Lutherchrist (talk) 01:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. Our disambiguation pages are lists of English Wikipedia articles. Kindly stop adding links to other languages - that is the standard here, so please respect it and stop edit warring. This has been explained on your user talk page several times now, and the article was protected specifically to prevent you from doing this as an IP. MrOllie (talk) 01:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

If any more pop up

just give me a ping and I'll take care of them. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Will do, thanks. MrOllie (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish, Here's another one: MariaLuBeua (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) MrOllie (talk) 01:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Taken care of. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Page Sampling (computational modeling)

Please be notified that I am opening a dispute about this page. Regards. Andrea Saltelli Saltean (talk) 07:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

AN notification

Hi MrOllie. I just noticed that you were not notified about a new thread at WP:AN. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Behavior of editor User:MrOllie. Cheers, — Diannaa (talk) 23:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Repeated citations

I've noticed you recently removed some contents added by me. Please discuss with me, content by content, why they are not relevant or significant to the topics discussed in these articles. I edit articles in topics I have expertise, and I'm willing to discuss them here if necessary. I think Wikipedia needs experts talking about the topics they know, and the suitability of some content must be judged in terms of whether the contribution is suitable for each article. EXPTIME-complete (talk) 23:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

As already explained on your user talk page, repetitively citing the same people is a form of promotional editing and is not allowed on Wikipedia. We are not a place for you to cite your own papers or to promote yourself or your work. If you are here to help build an encyclopedia and not to promote a particular academic, please find a wider variety of sources to cite - experts are generally familiar with a wide variety of sources of diverse authorship. Thanks. MrOllie (talk) 23:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I've added the following topics to the talk pages of four articles where you removed my contents:

Talk:Software testing#Section on Testability Hierarchy recently removed: a volunteer to review its suitability?

Talk:Software testability#Section on testability hierarchy recently removed: a volunteer to review its suitability?

Talk:Stochastic optimization#Paragraph on probabilistic complexity, no free lunch, and Turing-completeness of stochastic local search recently removed: a volunteer to review its suitability?

Talk:Marketing mix#Section on computational difficulty of marketing mix recently removed: a volunteer to review its suitability?

Am I following the right procedure in these cases? What do I have to do next?

EXPTIME-complete (talk) 01:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

List of personal information managers article

Please be careful on reverting other's people contributions because this inhibits participation in Wikipedia. The article "List of personal information managers" DOES NOT have a warning that the software "must have an article written first" so it is perfectly valid. Besides on the list there's already EssentialPIM which doesn't has an article and I don't see you deleting it. So I'm expecting you to revert this article as I left it. Ventolinmono (talk) 21:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

It does. It's just in the comments when you edit the section: "Applications in this list should have a sourced Wikipedia article. Please do not add external links or redlinks without Wiki-article to the list." The EssentialPIN was spammed in to the article right before you; I've removed it. In the future, you're welcome to remove list items which violate the criteria for the list - I hope that's aligned with your expectations. Sam Kuru (talk) 22:36, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I still don't see the warning. Can you please be more precise where it is supposed to show. I'm editing the article again and it doesn't shows. Ventolinmono (talk) 23:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

It's a comment in the page source. It is visible in both the source and visual editors. MrOllie (talk) 23:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok I see it now. I was expecting a banner as other articles have it. Ventolinmono (talk) 23:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Near-Death Experience article

Your comment "this doesn't convey any new information" shows that you either didn't read carefully or that you don't understand the subject. Of course it conveys new information. It's a brief summary of the conclusions of an entirely different study, that reached entirely new and different conclusions, involving different cultures, from different time periods and of different social scale. The salient point is that NDEs influenced afterlife beliefs in some societies and did not in others -- which is not stated in the previous sentences.

The finding are also in contrast to the immediately following paragraph. Why allow that one to stand but not this edit if there's a concern for a diversity of perspectives? -- particularly when Schlieter's book has been largely discredited? 2600:1700:A790:63B0:34FF:F04F:3C4F:ADB4 (talk) 03:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Okay, in silence is consent I guess. I'm going to revert your deletion. 2600:1700:A790:63B0:D955:12E0:459F:4A9 (talk) 03:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I read carefully, but still think the new source duplicates what we already have. You should be seeking consensus on the article talk, not making personal attacks on my user talk page. MrOllie (talk) 03:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

In fact, the whole section is fairly fringey and lacks secondary sourcing. MrOllie (talk) 03:22, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

No personal attack here. Are you an expert in the topic? It literally does not duplicate at all. As for "fringey" have you read the books? Both are scholarly works published by Oxford University Press and Bloomsbury, and both based on research at Oxford and University of Wales. On what are you basing your assessments? 2600:1700:A790:63B0:D955:12E0:459F:4A9 (talk) 03:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Article talk page, not here. MrOllie (talk) 03:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

So now you've deleted the entire section? Wtf? 2600:1700:A790:63B0:D955:12E0:459F:4A9 (talk) 03:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Third time: article talk page. Don't post here again. MrOllie (talk) 03:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Okay done. I look forward to reading your explanation there. 2600:1700:A790:63B0:D955:12E0:459F:4A9 (talk) 04:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	With this barnstar, know it's not a (wholly) thankless task! Bon courage (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Vitamin C content removed

I saw that you removed text and a reference, with an Edit summary that it was COI and citespam. What were your reasons for this action? I am going to look deeper at the text and the ref. So far, what I see is that the first sentence While plants..., NOT AS A QUOTATION, was present at least as far back as 2017 with a ref. Later, the Duarte ref was added; later still the original ref removed, the quote marks added, and the second sentence 'As one example, organically farmed citrus may have a higher vitamin C content than conventionally farmed citrus.' also cited with Duarte, was added. Would you be open to having the first sentence restored with the original ref, leaving as removed the second sentence and the Duarte ref? Could a mention of higher vitamin C content as a consequence of organic farming practices be restored if a more recent/better reference is found? PMID 32519524 appears to support this. David notMD (talk) 19:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely, returning the original ref would be fine by me. I am mostly concerned with the single purpose account adding Duarte all over, especially where those nutrition claims get rather close to something that should have WP:MEDRS. MrOllie (talk) 20:11, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for detecting the Duarte editing. I was not aware of the article changes I describe above. David notMD (talk) 14:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I will not be restoring the text or the original reference. It was added in 2007 (!). When I accessed it, it had general content about what affects nutrient content, but nothing specific about vitamin C. When I looked at more recent journal article literature, there is mention that organic growing of plants does increase vitamin C modestly, but adds that variety, growing conditions (weather, etc.), maturity at harvest, storage, etc., have a greater impact than organic. Also, at Organic food there are review references disputing the concept of higher nutrient content. Hence, I will not add text or ref about organic. David notMD (talk) 16:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Stop reverting valid citations

I see that you think adding citations to previously uncited material amounts to, in your words, "links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a websiteg or promote a product?" You must be confused. There was absolutely no citation that proves the existence of a "digital nomad visa" in Barbados, so I added one.

Try contributing to Wikipedia next time instead of criticizing other people for doing so.

I will ignore the fact that you accused me of "self promotion". I previously added a citation to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Spanish_citizens during the COVID-19 pandemic, which required a citation link to bda.dm. I take it that must have been "self promotion" as well? Do we become owners of websites when we add citations to them? Is that how the Internet works?

You are required to justify reverting contributions, particularly when those contributions added necessary citations. If you believe a person is or was self promoting, you are required to present evidence. That's how Wikipedia works. Contributions must be evidence based, including a contribution which reverts a previous contribution.

The citation should never have been removed and has been re-added.

- basdeninard — Preceding undated comment added 20:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

You're adding blatant link spam. MrOllie (talk) 20:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Evidently to your eyes only. Nobody else thinks that because it is a valid citation, as was the citation to bda.dm, as was the citation to news.gtp.gr.

I see you are enjoying this. Don't worry, I have a lot of patience with people like you that prefer to spend their time harrassing Wikipedia contributors. Basdeninard (talk) 20:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

This is in no way a 'valid citation'. See WP:RS for what actually makes for a valid citation, and avoid using advertising or self published websites as sourcing in the future. Spuriously accusing me of harassment will not help you get your link into Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 20:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Stop threatening Wikipedia users

You are selectively reverting contributions based on zero evidence. By the way, first you said that there is no SEO benefit to websites being linked, now you are suggesting there is a benefit if they are blacklisted? In any case, I don't care, because none of those websites belong to me, so go right ahead. Until then, I will continue to contribute to Wikipedia in line with the rules, whether you like it or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basdeninard (talk • contribs) 20:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Those are standard warning template messages. - MrOllie (talk) 20:52, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I have now also left the user the standard templates for an edit warring block and talk page access revocation. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Removed links

Hello! Ok, why did you remove the topical links that complement the article?

I looked through articles that I understand and replaced BROKEN links with WORKING ones. And you just went and deleted all my works? And you call yourself a moderator after this???

Looks like I'm starting to understand why people hate Wiki moderators. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackzavr (talk • contribs) 21:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Your links were removed because they did not meet Wikipedia's requirements for external links, which you can find at WP:EL. Wikipedia is not a link directory, this is not a place to advertise your websites. A broken link is not an opportunity to add link spam. - MrOllie (talk) 22:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Warnings help distinguish Vandals

Hello. Regarding the recent reverts you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. This helps in blocking vandal only acc./ IPs as identifying them becomes easier. I recently got confused with IP 5.78.61.251 who I thought was trying to make legitimate unsourced edits, although warnings on his talk page could have helped me understand he was a vandal, and stopped him earlier. Thank you ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 16:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware of warning templates. Those IPs were being used for block evasion by a long term abuser, see Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/MakaveliReed. They never respond to talk page discussion, so WP:RBI is the proper thing to do. MrOllie (talk) 16:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

ANI

Someone has started a thread about you at ANI. It's here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Edit warring on Commerce. -- Floquenbeam (talk) 19:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

about Reverting

Hi, This source is a review article (One of the most reliable sources) and is a secondary source. This article was published in Frontiers Media, which is a reputable medical journal. Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   17:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Frontiers Media is anything but a reputable medical journal, it was on Beall's list. And that is not a systematic review. MrOllie (talk) 17:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

You got it wrong. I am a Persian language user and I have no connection with the publisher or the author of that article. Apart from this issue, I have not done that editing (adding text and source) at all. What does it matter if it's on Beall's list? Do you consider the source to be invalid by citing something like this?! Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   18:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

You do know what Beall's list is? I can't imagine what could be more relevant to determining if a source is usable on Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 18:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

No, I am stupid, I don't know! The main issue for determining the validity of resources is the impact factor or IPP (Impact per Paper). Besides that to check the validity of an article, you should not only look at the publisher of that work: "When editors talk about sources that are being cited on Wikipedia, they might be referring to any one of these three concepts: The piece of work itself. The creator of the work. The publisher of the work". ping please Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   18:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I apologize, my tone has become a little harsh. Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   19:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Reliability cannot the reduced to the impact factor alone. If it is a sham publisher that doesn't actually do any peer-review (and Beall's list is precisely a list of sham, Predatory publishers) that is obviously extremely relevant, particularly given the very high standards required for medical topics. MrOllie (talk) 19:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Beall's list is a type of yellow journalism;[16][17] I do not consider it advisable to continue this discussion. impact factor is a well-known and standard way to review academic sources and it is well-known in universities and among experts in the field of source studies, and it is not at all comparable to such criteria that are popular among non-experts (such as Beall's list). . Adding three more lines to the article is not worth my time. Have good time Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   20:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Company page

Can you please let me know why the following accusation without any basis was tagged to our company article? "may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments"

I am trying to create an article for my company with all backed statements with citations and references. What I am doing wrong? Wiki.Lower (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Wiki.Lower: You admit that it is your company, which means you have a financial stake in it, which means you have monetary reasons to promote it. This is not allowed. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Of course, I disclose that. But please tell me how on earth I can put an informative and objective page about my company with information that can be backed with references :) Wiki.Lower (talk) 18:01, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

You can read and follow the policy links which have already been posted on your own user talk page. MrOllie (talk) 18:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I am aware of those broad and vague policies. But you are not answering my specific question :)

Q: How were all of those pages about commercial companies created?

A: By PR and marketing firms who are not "affiliated" by those commercial companies :)

Rules are policies are there for the order. But when they are limiting progress, they need to be modified or dropped. True information backed by references should be published by anyone.

I am not expecting answer from you, just voicing an issue that I hope Wikipedia community would eventually pay attention. Thanks again!

P.S. I will remove that article. Wiki.Lower (talk) 19:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

If you have questions about how Wikipedia is written, you may ask them at WP:TEAHOUSE. In general Wikipedia is written by volunteers, not PR or marketing firms. Policies are supposed to 'limit progress' in directions that are contrary to the purpose of the Encyclopedia. This is expressly not supposed to be a business directory. MrOllie (talk) 19:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Name articles

Hi MrOllie Al could be short for males and females. like Alfred, Albert, Alexia, Alexander, Alexandra, and more. 144.121.78.178 (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

You've already been blocked for doing this stuff once. Kindly stop disrupting articles about names. - MrOllie (talk) 18:50, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

"citespammer"

Hi,

You recently reverted an edit by an editor that I can see has landed in trouble for inappropriate external links, and judging by your edit summary "citespammer", adding cites that are already present.

However, I fail to see what the issue is with this particular addition. Could you elaborate? (Or, even, re-evaluate?). Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 11:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It was part of a pattern of edits that were designed to add as many references to that podcast as possible across Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 12:15, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Is there anything wrong with the cite? If so (for example, it is puffery, self-published etc) then fair enuff. If the only reason for your revert is the "pattern", and there is nothing wrong with the edit per se, perhaps we can reinstate the edit? Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 21:52, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It is a self published podcast, yes. MrOllie (talk) 21:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Reverts

"Not what we do on Wikipedia". Please don't be so patronising. You know as well as I do that the original edit I reverted was solely based on the aggressive POV of Bon courage. 86.187.171.52 (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Making personal attacks will not excuse your edit warring. Keep discussion on the article talk page where it belongs. MrOllie (talk) 19:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm smelling sock. Bon courage (talk) 19:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Really. I think not. Just an observer. 86.187.171.52 (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Bolding in titles

Hi, I notice you edited List of kingdoms in Africa throughout history to remove bolding for subheadings for the regions.

I see nothing in WP:MOS that states that bolding isn’t accepted, although I might be missing something. The reason I do it is so that the region headings are bold in the contents section in the top left, making it easier to navigate. I would also like to bold the title “List of kingdoms” as this is the main title, as opposed to “Comparison” or “History periods” which offer supplementary information.

I just thought it’d be best to drop you a message instead of edit warring over something trivial Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:53, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Also in the future would it be possible to refer to a particular section for example WP:MOS#Section headings Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

It is mentioned at MOS:BOLD - section headings are already bolded, adding manual bold as well 'double bolds' them, which should be avoided - it makes the text less legible on some browser/platform combinations - for example on my screen the lower case 'a' in Africa is very difficult to discern. MrOllie (talk) 18:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I might be thick but I don't see it there. Regardless I'll just italic the time periods to denote their inferiority. Can I get away with bolding the heading "List of kingdoms" as it wouldn't be double bolded? Alexanderkowal (talk) 19:21, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

You should not bold any section titles. MrOllie (talk) 19:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't see that written in WP:MOS. Not to be annoying but unless I'm wrong, this is just one person's opinion as opposed to wikipedia policy. Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to ask for clarification at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Text_formatting if you would like additional input. MrOllie (talk) 20:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Perfume

is it advertising the correct foto of opium in the right bottle of Ysl in an article that already exists?

is it advertisement the historical brand of Rance 1795 that it is the first niche house?

is it advertisement to include the musician who created high end perfumes with music and not just a refference? 2A01:B600:6F6F:1:B5F3:A090:7A54:5CD6 (talk) 00:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Please stop spamming Wikipedia. Thanks in advance! - MrOllie (talk) 00:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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NORAD Tracks Santa

You said: "A collection of inapplicable links and essays is not a reason to edit war back in bad writing". Please explain why you think it is bad writing, and why you think the policy links and the essay are not applicable. Félix An (talk) 02:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

This Santa stuff was disruptive the last couple of times you brought it up, you should not start it up again. Attempt to get consensus on the article talk page if you must, but I advise you to WP:DROPTHESTICK. MrOllie (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Look at the history of the talk page of that article. You will see that numerous NORAD sock puppets tried to not only rewrite it in the in-universe style, but also add in non-notable fictional information (e.g. the Santa Cams) also in the in-universe style. Of course, the editors stood up against such editing in every case. Let's not let history repeat itself. Félix An (talk) 02:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Is it really your position that NORAD is employing sock puppets to influence the article? MrOllie (talk) 02:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Not my position. Look at the talk page history and the blocks... Félix An (talk) 02:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I think the US and Canadian militaries have much better things to do. Direct further discussion to the article talk pages where it belongs, and kindly stop edit warring about this. MrOllie (talk) 02:23, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

The other thing is, the lead you are trying to restore was changed by someone who put "Keeping the magic just for today pls" (see the edit history). Wikipedia is not a website for that. Félix An (talk) 02:27, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Since you didn't get it from Direct further discussion to the article talk pages where it belongs, I'll be more clear: Stop posting here. MrOllie (talk) 02:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Kulldorff

Okay, so are you happy with the source and is it acceptable here? He wrote it himself, so I assume that's regarded as primary. There are now plenty of secondary sources coming available. UniversalBowman (talk) 15:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:ABOUTSELF, that is fine for noncontroversial information. I don't think anyone would suggest he is lying about getting fired. MrOllie (talk) 16:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Mental health

It's the tag that attracts so many new (or "new") editors: it is my suspicion that many spammers are drawn to articles that are categorized like this to be guided to making a few edits so they can get autoconfirmed. Drmies (talk) 16:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

That's a reasonable suspicion! I've seen this pattern a few times: Do 10 article spinning type edits, sleep for a bit, create promotional article. MrOllie (talk) 16:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Deobandi

There are more than 400 million adherence of deobandi movement brother in Bangladesh only 140 million deobandis,in afganistan 35 million,in india 100 million,in pakistan 100 million Ibne adam1 (talk) 16:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

You have been repeatedly adding unsourced content, copyright violations, and sources that fail verification. If you keep this up I expect your account will be blocked. - MrOllie (talk) 17:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Shipyard

Dear Mr. Ollie. Hope all is well. I made a addition to the prominent shipyard list that apears on Shipyard. I saw that in the regions, it was missing the Caribbean and a shipyard that is in the Dominican Republic. I thought this would be a good information for anyone that would like to know that some shipyards exist in the Caribbean. If needed I could also put other shipyards that are in the Caribbean as well. Waiting for your guidance on this. Best regards, Jose Joe A Steel (talk) 20:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Those are lists of shipyards that have a preexisting Wikipedia article. They are not meant to be exhaustive lists of all shipyards, and you should not be adding external links to them. MrOllie (talk) 20:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Ollie, Understood. I thought they did have links, but my mistake. If for future I think can be put again, I will take this into account. Thanks again. Joe A Steel (talk) 20:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The No Spam Barnstar
	Great work around Deobandi movement in reverting spam and nonsense. ─ Aafī (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Gamergate

As an IP editor, I cannot report you for your pro-gamergate, pro-harassment and pro-terrorism stance, but don't worry. Since I'm also not going to make an account, your secret will be safe with me. 92.19.46.45 (talk) 02:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

PRO-CENSORSHIP EDIT REVERTION

YOU WILL *IMMEDIATELY* CEASE YOUR CENSORSHIP CAMPAIGN AGAINST MY CORRECTIONS TO THE PAGE ABOUT ROBERT MALONE. Delt01 (talk) 16:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

No, I don't think I will. MrOllie (talk) 16:59, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Do you really, actually believe the bullshit big-pharma/corporate propaganda that's on the Robert Malone page right now? Or is someone paying you or controlling you in some other way to push these blatant lies? YOU ARE EITHER EXTREMELY STUPID, like Idiocracy level stupid, OR A PIECE OF SHIT LIAR AND ACCOMPLICE to probably the biggest and most cowardly crime ever committed against humanity in its entire history.

In these past 10 or so years ESPECIALLY since the covid pangimmick i've watched this wikishittia go from an ok-ish but extremely biased source for SOME forms of information on a few topics, to yet another complete shithole of a mouthpiece for globalist propaganda & lies just like all of mainstream media. If Jimmy wales isn't completely and utterly ashamed of what this has become, he very damn well SHOULD be. Delt01 (talk) 22:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) Thank you for the full-on belly laugh!! Truly, depriving us of this comment would have been probably the biggest and most cowardly crime ever committed against humanity in its entire history. Generalrelative (talk) 23:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)