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I went there to block after deleting their spam article. Personally I would have issued a hard 2-point block because they obviously have no other purpose here and the article is clearly paid for or a salaried work. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:00, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: You're welcome to change the block if you wish. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:19, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
No. I wasn't criticising, just pointing out because it the same kind of thing I sometimes miss myself and then realise its both a spam name and a spam article. The article has gone and we'll see if it pops up again. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:27, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
@Kudpung: I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. I find it unlikely that most now accounts like this are intimately familiar with all of our policies and guidelines, so unless I see a pattern of abuse (like multiple accounts being made), I use the soft block. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:53, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Could you please have a look at a renaming request?

Hello,

Could you please have a look at this request? I've noticed that you can undestand japanese, and I haven't got the slightest idea of what the given reason means. Moreover, the contributions of this user (I don't want to notify him/her) are problematic. Thank you! Litlok (talk) 09:09, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Litlok: It translates as "I'm the younger brother of 青子守歌 (another editor), not a sockpuppet of Iccic" (a blocked editor on en and ja). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:02, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the translation. Could you please handle the request (favorably or not), considering the fact that the account seems suspect? Litlok (talk) 16:22, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Litlok: After reviewing the edits, I've blocked the account as a sock per ja:LTA:Iccic. I then declined the rename request. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:34, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Please read it. And I notice you failed to answer several questions I asked you directly in that discussion. Why was that? Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: I've read it many times. And I answered all the relevant questions there. Again, go create an RFC if you want the policy changed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 07:05, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
No you didn't answer all my questions. You must be confused. I'm done with this shit. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:07, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Well then, please stop harassing me. I think you should step away from things if you're getting so worked up over this. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 07:15, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
And looking over the discussion again, I see no questions that you raised that were not answered by someone. Perhaps not with the answers you desired, but they were answered. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 07:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Figured it out

I finally figured it out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:281:C900:147F:283E:A94F:AEBC:1D65 (talk) 19:36, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

@2601:281:C900:147F:283E:A94F:AEBC:1D65: Figured what out? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:39, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:JAPAN articles needing infobox human settlements and flagicons

Hi nihonjoe, Can you please have a look at this discussion here:[1] about the use of flagicons in the infoboxes for human settlements. I thought that this was just an isolated issue where the editor confused the Kurihama Yokosuka for a person, but he seems to be making the same systematic changes across articles on human settlements. It would be unfortunate if either of us were systematically undertaking unnecessary work. Where can I go to get some clarification on this? Dr.khatmando (talk) 11:06, 12 August 2017 (UTC) Dr.khatmando (talk) 11:06, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Help with mobile-friendly Current Events project?

Hi! I've proposed a few changes to Portal:Current events that will make the layout work well on narrow-width displays.

Portal talk:Current events#Mobile-Friendly Current Events project (Final step)

As you have previously had involvement with the Current events page, I would appreciate your participation in the discussion, if it is convenient for you. Thank you for your time. — RossO (talk) 17:02, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Roots of Knowledge erroneous information

A while ago I tried to correct some of the information about the Roots of Knowledge stained-glass mural. You said that I couldn't change or include anything unless there was a source. I wish there was a way to use a direct human source because I am one of them. I was one of the head designers/artists and am now working at UVU as a consultant/specialist for the windows. The publications that were made were all done before the windows were actually done so there is a lot of misleading information there that we can't go back and change. There is a new article from codaworx. https://www.codaworx.com/awards/codaawards/2017/entries/roots-of-knowledge-utah-valley-university-58b07c2708dfb The main things I was trying to change are the number of pieces of glass (actual number: 43,000+) and the "350 UVU students" that were involved. There were hundreds of students involved AFTER the windows were designed and finished. The way it's written in wikipedia (and unfortunately in some of the articles) makes it sound like they actually made the windows which is incorrect. What they did was do research for their honors class and write "encyclopedia-like" articles that potentially could be used in the Roots of Knowledge app and website. Their research was based on the designs that had already been done. There have also been student docents and interns working in the library giving tours and developing an education program for K-12 school field trips. I can provide much more information if you'd be interested but I'm not sure what you'd be able to use since there isn't a whole lot of documentation out there yet.

Nicholas Lawyer nickabogado@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.9.2 (talk) 19:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

I posted a message almost a month ago having to do with Roots of Knowledge. I would appreciate it if you would look it over and get back to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikabola (talkcontribs) 18:21, 22 September 2017‎ (UTC)
@Nikabola: I apologize for any delay in my reply. I have been crazy busy (as the note at the top of this page states). Let me correct a few apparent misunderstandings about how Wikipedia works. First of all, we do not use original research on Wikipedia. We can only use information that can be verified using reliable sources. Since the notability of the Roots of Knowledge exhibit has already been established, these can be primary sources or third party sources (though the latter are strongly preferred).
Second, if only erroneous information has been reported in those reliable sources, that's what will be included on Wikipedia. In order to correct it, you will need to get a third party (magazine, newspaper, etc.) to do a story on the incorrect information (or a story containing corrections of that incorrect information). Until and unless this corrected information is reported in a reliable source, we can not include it.
Third (and finally), Wikipedia will likely never be able to use original research as a source. Since it's an online encyclopedia with no editorial oversight (outside of the hundreds of thousands of editors themselves), there is no way to verify that, so your personal accounts and experiences can not be used to initiate changes. If you wrote and had published a book about the project, or were able to get a third party to report on it (as mentioned above), we are unable to change information sourced to reliable sources. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I understand what you're saying. We're working on getting a book out there that clarifies a lot of this stuff. It may be a few months or a year before it's published though.
You say there can be nothing done about changing information already published. I get that. What about intentionally leaving some of the errors out? What about contradictory sources? Have you looked at the Codaworx article I mentioned before? I think Codaworx has more credibility and authority than a local newspaper or fleeting news story. Especially since it's one of the few documents actually published AFTER the project was done and has concrete information instead of estimates and assumptions.
I'm just trying to do anything I can to prevent people from receiving misleading information. Most people will have forgotten those old articles if we can establish the real facts now.
@Nikabola: Hi, I'm a friend of Nihonjoe's and I might be able to answer your question sooner than he can. Replacing old article references with new ones is completely fine. As for leaving out information, there's no rule against it, although you should give a rationale in your edit summary for removing sourced information. Ideally, you would be able to replace the incorrect reference with a correct one. You can also use the roots of knowledge website as a source! If you work at UVU you might be able to get them to add the missing information to their roots of knowledge website, which you could then source on Wikipedia. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:18, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
@Nikabola: Please reply in this section rather than creating new sections every time you post here. Just click the "Edit" link for this section to do so.
Regarding your comments, I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I have never said that already published information can't be changed. What I did say is that we would need other reliable sources to reference in order to change the information. As Rachel mentioned above (and I also mentioned this), the official website for the installation can be used for referencing this information. Regarding the reliability of the Codaworx site, all the information on that page was provided by the studio, which makes it no more or less reliable than a newspaper article or "fleeting news story" (as you called it). Your best bet (since you work there) is to get UVU to change the official site to include all of the correct information so we can use that as a source for correcting the article. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:09, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
@Nikabola: I've updated it with some info from the Codaworx "article" (it's more of a press release, really). There really wasn't much in that "article", though, so the only major change was the number of pieces of glass. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:25, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...
Japan, Japan
... you were recipient
no. 1470 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, again. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:15, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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I Hate Running Backwards

Hello there, acording to the article's log, you deleted the page "I Hate Running Backwards" at 00:50, 8 August 2017. Since the name refers to an actual game, I wondered what that former article covered. Are you able to give me the original page contents, so I can look into expanding and recreate the article once appropriate? Cheers! Lordtobi () 19:03, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

@Lordtobi: There's not really anything to restore as the article just stated that it was "a video game created and developed by Binx Interactive and Croteam." Feel free to develop a replacement article at User:Lordtobi/I Hate Running Backwards, and then move it to the mainspace once it meets WP:N and WP:V. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:37, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#Sources for PreCure voice actors. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Scouting capitalization

I've restored "When Scout, Scouting, Boy Scout, Girl Scout, Guide and Scouting-related award names, progression levels, age sections, other language equivalents (i.e. Second Class, Varsity Scout, Eagle Scout, Bronze Wolf) are used in articles in the context of the Scouting Movement, they are considered proper nouns and are always capitalized. Example: "a group of 50 Scouts", not "a group of 50 scouts". For usage in other contexts not related to the Scouting Movement, refer to the Manual of Style for guidance on capitalization. Do not capitalize event names unless the reference is to a specific event. Examples: "pinewood derby" and "national Scout jamboree"; but "Valley District Pinewood Derby" and "2010 National Scout Jamboree." " to the Scouting WPMOS. I appreciate your help with the pedantic editor, but the lack of this section is creating problems with another longterm pedantic editor. Sorry to undo your work.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

@Kintetsubuffalo: What are you talking about? Please provide diffs. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:45, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
This guy [2], [3]. Thanks and sorry if I was unclear.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:27, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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Treatment of periods and quotations

Periods and commas always go inside the closing quotation mark (in American English). Source: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/how-to-use-quotation-marks?page=1

Are we using a different standard in Wikipedia? JustaZBguy (talk) 03:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

@JustaZBguy: See MOS:LQ. Since the quoted part doesn't include the period, and the quoted part isn't the end of the sentence, the period goes outside the ending quotation mark. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:49, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

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Delete hidden category permissions

Quick question: I'm looking at Category:Pages_using_infobox_company_with_unsupported_parameters and I'm wondering how I remove the hidden category from the page if they issue is resolved. Thanks! JustaZBguy (talk) 19:28, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@JustaZBguy: First, you don't need to ping me on my own talk page. With that out of the way, which hidden category, and on which page? ZipBooks? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about that. The ZipBooks page is what brought it up but I was looking here: Category:Pages using infobox company with unsupported parameters. If I update the infobox to remove unsupported attributes on one of the pages in this category, will it automatically be removed from the category? JustaZBguy (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
@JustaZBguy: It shouldn't have that cat anymore. I removed the offending parameters. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:07, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
OK so it is automatic. Cool. Another question about automation if you don't mind. Would there be a way to automate updating the transclusion count like I did here -> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes/Arts_and_culture&action=history Just looking to get pointed in the right direction if it is possible. Not expecting you to take the time to walk me through it. :) Thanks! JustaZBguy (talk) 21:16, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
@JustaZBguy: If there's not already a bot that does it, you could request one do it at WP:BOTREQ. You'd probably want to get consensus to have it done, though, which would likely involve a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:38, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Midori (violinist)#Japanese name. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:49, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Replied there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:41, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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Revisions

Hi! Not sure what was unclear about my edits. Could you let me know specifically what you found confusing so I can clear it up?

Thanks, Kyra.Hayter (talk) 22:28, 6 December 2017 (UTC)Kyra

@Kyra.Hayter: Using "text of the citation" as your citation is not a valid way to do it. I have gone through the article in question and fixed all the references. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:54, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposition

Hello Nihonjoe, Congratulations with Happy Hollidays! I plan to gradually conduct a questioning to determine the best speculative fiction novels according to the wikipedians. I wanted, that you to think and gradually create (if you like the idea) a list (as long as possible, but not more than 50) of the best genre novels of different authors, regardless of the language of the works (it is desirable: 1 author - 1 novel, but not necessarily) personally read by you. The list can include all novels containing speculative fiction elements - science fiction, fantasy and fairy tales, horror & supernatural fiction, alternative-historical, etc. The place of the novel in the list should correspond to the quality of the work and your impression received from him. The first novel in the list will be scored at 50 points, the last - in 1 point. And when there are enough respondents to collect - we sum up the number of points and get a list of 100 best novels. I hope for your agreement and that you will get 50 or less less read novels and there will be time and desire.--Yasnodark (talk) 13:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

I suggest in the case of consent the following example of the formalization of the list:

  1. John Brunner «The Dramaturges of Yan» (English: «The Dramaturges of Yan », 1971)
  2. Péter Zsoldos «The Task (novel) [hu]» (Hungarian: «A Feladat», 1971), with respect.--Yasnodark (talk) 13:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
@Yasnodark: I replied on your page. Please keep everything there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:36, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello Nihonjoe, Thanks for the answer, I replied on the same page.--Yasnodark (talk) 15:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Anime- and manga-related articles#Header issues. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:15, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

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“Disruptive editing”

Hi. The other day, you semiprotected MOS:ANIME citing disruptive editing, which I can only assume was referring to me (being the only involved user affected by semiprotection). This confuses me, because the timeline was:

  1. I edited the page to improve it, explaining the changes in edit summaries
  2. A user reverted my changes without comment
  3. I posted to the editor’s talkpage about it
  4. The editor neglected to respond (and still hasn’t, as of this writing)
  5. I restored the changes
  6. Another editor reverted with an edit summary giving no reasons, but requesting discussion without initiating it
  7. I posted to his talkpage about it
  8. The editor removed my messages with an edit summary saying, “Duly noted”
  9. I restored the changes since he now seemed in agreement
  10. The same editor again reverted with no explanation and another request for discussion

I can provide diffs to back this up, if needed. I’m surely biased toward myself, but the only WP:DE behavior I see there, behavior which disrupts progress toward improving an article or building the encyclopedia, is from the editors reverting for literally no reason, especially the final revert ignoring my prior attempts to discuss the matter. If you do feel I was guilty of DE while the other editors weren’t, please, please explain why. Thank you. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 07:04, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

If it had been directed only at you, you would have been warned about it on your talk page. The protection was due to a pattern of disruptive reverting by multiple editors. Keep it on the talk page there. Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up, but how does semiprotection address that? Pretty sure I was the only non-autoconfirmed editor there. Feel free to relocate these comments if you wish, but I figured it best to just ask you directly. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 22:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
When I protected it, I didn't look to see which specific IPs were causing problems and edit warring. I just saw several edits by IPs and multiple regular editors reverting them. That indicates disagreement with whatever the IP(s) were doing. That there was only one IP involved at this time is largely irrelevant. Take your concerns to that talk page and work it out there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:49, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I would like to request unprotection of MOS:ANIME, in light of the above and the discussion at its talk page, so that I can implement uncontroversial copyedits. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 05:08, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

As long as you obtain clear consensus prior to making the edits, that's fine. Make sure you clearly define on the talk page what you want to do and get that consensus before making the edits. If an edit war starts up again, it will be protected again. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:56, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Understood. Thanks! —67.14.236.50 (talk) 21:11, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Reply

The committee has been in touch with Coffee in the past couple weeks, so your second point does not really stand. I understand my message may have been overstepping, but neither do I think one should be laughing around right after making another questionable block, when the context of past several weeks is taken into consideration. I thought that was grossly insensitive, in my opinion. If we were to raise the point that we are all human beings behind the screen, it has to take place mutually. I do understand where you are coming from, and I apologize if offense were taken. Alex Shih (talk) 23:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Shih: The second point still stands, but you did already contact him, so you already took care of it appropriately. As for "laughing around", requiring someone to be totally serious in all interactions is a bit ridiculous. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:38, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@Alex Shih: You realize that it's likely your post is going to be flung in Coffee's face every time they take a remotely unpopular/controversial admin action for the next couple months/years, right? --NeilN talk to me 23:52, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
@NeilN: Of course he does, otherwise he wouldn't have done it. All my communications with ArbCom have been voluntary (mostly asking for advice). For Alex Shih (talk · contribs) to bring up private correspondence on-wiki, is a very, very troubling sign from an Arbitrator. Especially one so new to the committee, and especially when he is deliberately mischaracterizing the communications I've had. I am very stressed and disheartened by this entire situation, as I now feel like I have a sniper target on my back at all times forthwith. This type of behavior from ArbCom is not what I expected upon my return. *sigh* Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 14:49, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of William Bliss Baker

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Nomination of Military spacecraft in fiction for deletion

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Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Pounder

It's a borderline case, and it might well end up at the "CCH" spelling (probably not this time, but it would if an interview somewhere shows her stating she wants it spelled that way). You seem to be proceeding on the assumption that a raw majority of usage in sources is sufficient. It is not. To accept an unusual stylization, we expect to see virtually no deviation from it in the RS. In this case, there's quite a lot of variation, and that's only from looking casually for under 5 minutes. It's about near-uniformity in sources indicating that the average reader would be confused if we didn't use a particular spelling, not about whether a raw count shows, e.g., a 90% majority that someone can try to use as a WP:WINNING declaration. It's not a vote. No one would be confused "C. C. H. Pounder". Quite a few would be by "Ipod" [how would you even pronounce that? "ippud"?].  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  01:03, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Module:Location map/data/Japan complete

please reduce the protection level to template-editor or below. Frietjes (talk) 21:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@Frietjes:  Done Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:02, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Biografer "correcting" others' talk page comments

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Biografer "correcting" others' talk page comments. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:00, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Just notifying you as a courtesy. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:00, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:42, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Is this still needed? I only just now checked the peramlink you mentioned in the description, and it looks you'd need the filter to use irlike (case insensitive) instead of rlike. However I would instead recommend contains_any(added_lines, "foo", "bar") since that won't unnecessarily use the regex engine. Finally, a lot of people are hit by "extendedconfirmed". Would "confirmed" work just as well, for performance sake? Regards MusikAnimal talk 04:22, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: Someone asks this every month or two. Yes, it's still needed. The vandal that does this is really random and sometimes goes a month or two without doing anything. I'm fine if you want to change the filter to use contains_any(added_lines, "foo", "bar"), if you think that will work better. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:22, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
That someone is probably me :) There's no issue using filters for this, but if it goes long enough without any hits it should be disabled, since the expense of the filter affects everyone who edits (and we've been running into issues hitting the condition limit). The example edit you gave wouldn't have been caught with the older filter implementation, so I've updated it accordingly. Let's see how she flies. I must ask again though, are we sure we need to target extended confirmed users? Thanks MusikAnimal talk 17:55, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: Confirmed is fine. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:58, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Awesome :) I'll keep an eye on it and make any further updates/optimizations as necessary. MusikAnimal talk 18:00, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

I hope you will have no objection...

...to a repurposing of your "Obama" article as described here [4]. For reasons that should surely be obvious, a simple "born in Japan" hook rounds out the trio of hooks very nicely. EEng 21:20, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Works for me. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Hachijō-jima

Yikes, your friendly invitation to stick my nose into the article Hachijō-jima has taken me hours. And to only minor effect. (But I get the impression that you too arrived there casually and found yourself spending ages on it.)

I'm sorry that, as usual, I lacked the patience to use the "cite" and other appropriate templates.

I'm going to abandon the article for at least one day, but I hope to look in a bit later. Best of luck fixing the problems that I overlooked, and any that I added. -- Hoary (talk) 10:16, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Hoary: Yeah, it does suck you in, doesn't it? I appreciate your time. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
As promised, I returned. I wish that I could confidently say that the work is completed. However.... Hoary (talk) 01:23, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Whew. Well done! -- Hoary (talk) 05:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
@Hoary: Thanks for the help! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:02, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

The work never ends. -- Hoary (talk) 00:07, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@Hoary: Heh. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello,

I was wondering about this book to be honest. Do you know anything about the 1st edition book cover? I was hoping to upload it so it can be added to the article. Also, based on a buzzfeed article (link), it seems I am unable to get much out of the translation since it appears it talks more about the comic strips rather than the book. Anyways, Thanks. Artix Kreiger (talk) 15:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: I think this shows the 1937 cover. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:17, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
This shows a 1949 cover. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:21, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hachijō-jima

Hello! Your submission of Hachijō-jima at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 17:05, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
  • updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.

For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Jōkō Obama

On 1 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jōkō Obama, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Obama was born in Japan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jōkō Obama. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jōkō Obama), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 12:03, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

They named a university after you!

Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 23:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown: Shhh! Everyone will want one if they find out. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
😀 No, everyone is not qualified, they were only impressed by the language here. 😀 Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
@SheriffIsInTown: We try. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Survey Invite

I'm working on a study of political motivations and how they affect editing. I'd like to ask you to take a survey. The survey should take 5 minutes. Your survey responses will be kept private. Our project is documented at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_%2B_Politics.

Survey Link: http://uchicago.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9S3JByWf57fXEkR?Q_DL=56np5HpEZWkMlr7_9S3JByWf57fXEkR_MLRP_dcz0Ux1qeXOPW4t&Q_CHL=gl

I am asking you to participate in this study because you are a frequent editor of pages on Wikipedia that are of political interest. We would like to learn about your experiences in dealing with editors of different political orientations.

Sincere thanks for your help! Porteclefs (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sock?

Hi Nihonjoe, I'm wondering if Patrick Sean Murphy (talk · contribs) is a sock or meat puppet for Browndevelopers (talk · contribs). Disney family members, it appears. Thanks, 73.159.24.89 (talk) 22:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

It's possible, though I couldn't see any immediate connection when I looked at them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for William Bliss Baker

On 11 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Bliss Baker, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ...that William Bliss Baker, a promising Hudson River School landscape painter (work pictured), died a week before his twenty-seventh birthday after being injured while ice skating? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Bliss Baker. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, William Bliss Baker), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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Invitation to WikiProject Portals

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   10:23, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject heads up, April 27, 2018

Long post

We now have 52 members, and more are joining daily.

New and easier way to handle excerpts

Attention portal maintainers!

There's a new template to improve existing and new portals, called {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

It is a lot easier to use than copying and pasting text from articles, as it displays the paragraphs you specify automatically for you.

It makes excerpts so that they are always current and never go stale or fork.

It is more powerful than it looks, because it has the Lua Module:Excerpt supporting it.

Be careful, as it is alpha software. Please notify the WikiProject talkpage of any problems you come across.

To give you a sense of the reaction this template is generating, here is an excerpt of a discussion thread from the WikiProject's talk page:

  • This new template is fantastic. I've added it to the intro sections of the portals on Australian cities (eg P:PER) and it works brilliantly. My compliments to its creators. It can probably also be used in other sections of many portals (eg "Selected article" and "Selected biography"), and, for that reason, will probably make the task of maintaining portals a great deal easier. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
    Thank you for being so brave. Portal:Adelaide/Intro just got a lot simpler! Certes (talk) 10:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Kudos on a wonderful template.    — The Transhumanist   03:27, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
This is amazing stuff. I'm going to get to work on using it on the selected content at most of these portals very soon. WaggersTALK 13:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

The RfC

I wrote a comment in the the April 26 section of the RfC explaining what we are up to. I liked the excerpt above so much, that I went back to my RfC posting, and inserted it.

Please add Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals to your watchlist

Wish list

What's this? An old oil lamp. It's so dirty, I think I'll polish it...

*poof*

Whoa! Are you a WikiGenie? In that case, I get 3 wishes!

I wish...

  1. ...that Portal:Contents/Portals becomes up-to-date.   (The missing entries are listed on the talk page, with instructions).
  2. ...the WikiProject to have Article Alerts.   ({{WikiProject Portals}} templates have already been placed on all portal talk pages).
  3. ...that Portal:Cricket becomes a shining example of portal excellence.   (It was the main example of a crappy and unmaintained portal at the RfC).

Please make my wishes come true. See you around the portals!    — The Transhumanist   08:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Hachijō-jima

On 27 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hachijō-jima, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when Ulysses S. Grant visited the island of Hachijō-jima in 1877, he was ceremonially adopted by the village chief and given a name meaning "courageous general" in the local dialect? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hachijō-jima. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hachijō-jima), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Japanese names

Quick question, and I wasn't sure who to ask: is it right to call Hifumi a unisex name? 一二三 seems to be exclusively male while every other variant is exclusively female. In that case should I categorize it as masculine and feminine rather than unisex? There are several similar examples in Category:Japanese unisex given names and I think I've been doing it wrong. —Xezbeth (talk) 11:06, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

@Xezbeth: Using the unisex cat should be fine. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Portals Overview, May 04, 2018

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Thank you for being a member of the Portals WikiProject, and thank you for all the work you have all been doing on the portal namespace. To see the activity, check out the watchlist.

This is our 3rd issue, see previous issues at the Newsletter archive.

Top priority: Main list of portals needs updating

The top, and one of the most visible parts, of the portal system is Portal:Contents/Portals, which is intended to list all (completed) portals on Wikipedia.

About half of the missing existing portals have been added since this WikiProject's reboot (April 17th). Thank you to RockMagnetist, TriNitrobrick, Polyamorph, PratyushSinha101, Ganesha811, Bermicourt, Javert2113, Noyster, Ɱ, Lepricavark, XOR'easter, and Emir of Wikipedia, for working on this.

We are half-way to completion with this. We need everyone to chip in until it is done. Instructions, and the list of missing entries are at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope you'll join me there. ("Many hands make light work").

Thank you.

Membership

We're at 66 members, with more joining daily. We even have 6 WikiGnomes!

Special thanks

I have awarded Certes with a portals barnstar on his talk page for his work on the new excerpt templates that are revolutionizing the portal system (Template:Transclude lead excerpt & Template:Transclude random excerpt). If you'd like to show your appreciation, please feel free to stop by his talk page and add your signature to the barnstar itself.

Thank you Certes. You are enabling this WikiProject to get the right things done, fast.

By the way, the templates have already gone international. After being told about the templates, Mossab wrote:

Thanks You very much!. Those are fantastic and great templates! I transferred them to Arabic Wikipedia and they do a magic great job. I worked to improve portal anatomy here and i do every thing i can to improve it and i am very sad for the nomination for deletion of portals :(. I am glad to be member on WikiProject Portals and i added my name with pleasure. Kind regards

RFC

As you know, the (April 8th) proposal to delete all portals and the portal namespace inspired the reboot of this WikiProject. RfCs typically run for 30 days, which means there are 5 days left including today, before the RfC will be closed. The !votes are predominantly "oppose", but many editors have shared their disappointment with the portal system. We have our work cut out for us in correcting the problems of the portals to address their concerns. Complaints ranged from being out of date and lacking maintenance, to taking up the time of editors that they felt (due to low traffic) would be better spent improving articles.

Anti-WikiProject drama

This past week has been somewhat stressful for me, with more than a little conflict...

It culminated with my being reported at the Administrator's Noticeboard "for spamming and canvassing". This is the second time I've been reported there during the RfC; the first one was for posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages.

The accusations were 1) Posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages, 2) Adding an Article alerts section to the Portals WikiProject page, and 3) posting notices (invitations) about this WikiProject on user talk and portal talk pages.

None of which fall under the Wikipedia definitions of spamming or canvassing.

Thank you, Lionelt and Lepricavark, for coming to my rescue. I don't know how the discussion would have turned out if you had not spoken up.

The discussion was closed as "no action necessary".

After that, the person responsible posted their thoughts to my talk page. Here they are, with my response:

Congratulations, it appears your relentless targeted advertising of the RFC, your beating the RFC Supporters with a stick by posting countless times there, your dishonest insistence that Current Events was on the chopping block, and your obstruction of clean up efforts at MfD are paying dividends. Have fun playing with Portal space where no one will read your work. I'm sure someone will eventually clean up the mess when your interest wanes. Cheers. Legacypac

Thank you. I accept your congratulations on behalf of Wikiproject Portals and the portal-loving community – it was a team effort. In addition, I'd like to clarify some things about your claims above...
  1. Each page nominated for deletion must have a notice at the top of its page, per the deletion guideline. Not to have one there, would be unfair to those who use such pages, and would constitute a secret deletion tribunal. We don't do things that way on Wikipedia.
  2. As new facts became available (e.g., a motivated and thriving WikiProject to support the portals, new building blocks, etc.), it was appropriate to post the developments to the RfC, to support informed decision making.
  3. Proposals are literal, not figurative. The proposal specified "all portals". All means all.
  4. The fact is, the rebooted WikiProject is cleaning up the mess, rather rapidly. By updating and upgrading the portals, rather than getting rid of them.
  5. I think I'll be hanging around for awhile, but the project is more than likely to achieve critical mass and may outlive us all, due in part to the development of tools to assist editors in building, upgrading, and maintaining portals that are fully dynamic and self-updating.
Portals are more fun to work with than ever. Thank you for your role in making this happen. You made us try even harder, and inspired us to pull together as a team. You'll have a warm place in our hearts, forever. The Transhumanist

Automatically refreshed excerpts

The main advancement we've made so far is applying selective transclusion Transclusion is template technology, showing a page on another page. Selective transclusion shows only part of that page. We use it to show excerpts that always match the source. The two templates we have so far, are Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Obsoleting subpages

Excerpts are migrating toward the base page of each portal, and where this is done, a subpage is no longer needed.

Template:Transclude lead excerpt will be able to be used to put the intro excerpt directly on the portal page, rather than on an intro subpage, once we adapt a portal design to accommodate this.

Template:Transclude random excerpt is currently being used on 1st-level subpages, and eliminates the need for 2nd-level subpages. (Many portals have 2 levels of subpages).

There are about 1500 portals, but there are around 148,000 subpages in portal space. Further discussions are needed to develop designs and components that do not require them.

It is my hope that the portal of the future will be a single page, or close to it, pulling in excerpts from specified dynamic sources (like category pages), filtered by ratings. This would obviate the need for subpages at all (except for maybe the header and footer subpages, which store a portal's settings). A more likely near-term solution would be subpages with a list maintained by a bot, or editors using semi-automatic tools.

New portals

Since the reboot, a new portal has been created:

Portal:Limited recognition

Please watchlist these pages

Some central pages in the portal system. The more eyes on them, the better.

Wrapping up...

There's more in the works, like a rating system, further redesigns, etc. Keep an eye on the discussions on the project's talk page. They should start showing up there soon.

Hope to see you there. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

ok thank u so much for this new info.

i'm a christian conservative vaporwave loving human being and if you are triggered then i'm sorry lol not. --Vaporwaveman34 (Talk) 18:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

No problem. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:56, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


hey

hey I just want to say that that's cool that you have been to all these amazing places and lived in japan I would love to vist japan some day but I might not like flying in planes because of all the terror attacks and plane crashes but still I can dream ok that's all for now bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaporwaveman34 (talkcontribs) 21:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Portals update, 11 May 2018

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We've grown to 73 members, and morale is high. Thank you for joining. Here is some news, and some tasks...

The RfC will be closed soon...

2018-05-11: preparations are being made to close the RfC. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure#Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals.

When there, be sure to notice the consultation link.

We're trying to get a prototypical single-page portal developed in time to show the RfC closers before they make their final decision. You can help. It's Portal:Humanism. So far, we've applied selective transclusion (automation) to excerpts, and have made the following sections without subpages: intro, selected article, selected biography, categories, related portals, wikiprojects, things to do, and wikimedia. Eight down, 4 to go, plus 2 formatting subpages (not sure we can migrate those). Automating every section, would also be nice.

Main objectives

Our main objectives currently, are:

  1. Replace static excerpts with selective transclusions, so that the excerpts always stay fresh (that is, match the source content). We are now doing this on the portal base page as much as possible, to reduce the number of subpages that are needed. See #2...
  2. Migrate the functions of subpages to the portal base pages. There are around 150,000 subpages in portal space. We aim to make these obsolete by using templates and other calls from the portal base pages.
  3. Improve portal design to make portals self-update. Semi-dynamic sections update from a static list, as used in {{Transclude random excerpt}}. Fully-dynamic sections would update from a list maintained elsewhere on Wikipedia, like a category. We haven't found a way to do this yet, other than to create a bot (which we will probably need to do).

Maintenance pass #1: Upgrading the intro section

The intro section of many portals transcludes an "Intro" subpage that has an excerpt in it.

We're replacing that with a selective transclusion directly in the intro section, bypassing the subpage. Though, there's a little more to it...

For instructions, see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Transclude intro excerpt directly on the portal base page.

Please skip Portal:American Civil War, as that is specifically being maintained by hand.

Maintenance pass #2: Obsoleting the Wikimedia subpages

One of the sections on many portals links to sister projects on the subject. This needlessly takes a subpage. The subpage can be made obsolete by using the template {{Wikimedia for portals}} directly on the portal base page.

This has been done for several hundred portals so far.

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Obsolete a Wikimedia subpage for instructions.

Maintenance pass #3: calling the category tree from the portal base page

Certes figured out how...

{{subst:Text|<category|tree>}}{{subst:PAGENAME}}{{subst:Text|</categorytree>}}

For more information, see the thread Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Rendering PAGENAME inside categorytree tag doesn't work (it does now).

More to come...

In the meantime, see ya around the portals!    — The Transhumanist   15:53, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

How are "bogus" articles held , when latter found to be notable?

How are "bogus" articles held , when latter found to be notable? - English is not not native language translation. 20:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)YodogawaKamlyn (talk) 20:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@YodogawaKamlyn: Are you talking about an article that was deleted for not being notable, then later determined to be notable? It could be restored and brought into compliance with WP:V, or someone could write an entirely new article that meets WP:N and WP:V. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:10, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update, 15 May 2018

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We are at 74 members. If you know anyone who might find this WikiProject interesting, please invite them.

The RfC has ended

The RfC was closed May 11th, and a closing statement was posted May 12th which says "There exists a strong consensus against deleting or even deprecating portals at this time."

Ongoing tasks

Some major activities that we are in the middle of include:

  • Adding the missing existing portals to the main portals list at Portal:Contents/Portals. Instructions are on the talk page. There are about 125 portals left to be processed. (There were 400). Keep up the good work!
  • Development discussions on how to migrate the subpages to the base pages. There are around 150,000 subpages in portal space, associated with the various sections on a typical portal. We are trying to obsolete them section type by section type. Currently, we're working on obsoleting the intro subpages and the "selected articles" subpages. Please join in.

Other tasks

  • The list of portals not ready to be listed on the main list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#These are not listed yet (scroll down to see them - they are marked Not ready). They are incomplete. If you want a specific portal to work on, please consider choosing one from that list.
  • Over the years, some incomplete portals (portals under construction) got added to Portal:Contents/Portals. Therefore, every portal listed there needs to be inspected, and any that are incomplete should be removed from that list and added to the not ready list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#These are not listed yet (scroll down to see it). On Portal:Contents/Portals, I'm already almost done inspecting the portals in the culture section, and so you can skip those. The types of things to look for are empty sections (most will have a redlinked subpage), lack of "selected" sections, portal stubs with just an intro and end sections, and very poor layout (like seriously unbalanced columns).

Portal-building resources

During his work on portals, Broter found a quote randomizer. It is {{Random quotation}}.

Trailblazer: approaching the one-page portal

Broter has transformed the Portal:Community of Christ so it is comprised of only 3 pages in portal space: the base page, its box-header subpage, and its box-footer subpage. Its other other subpages are now obsolete and are waiting for deletion. Nice job, Broter!

Well, that's all for now. See ya around the portals.    — The Transhumanist   06:39, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update, 25 May 2018

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We have grown to 79 members.

Please provide a warm welcome to our latest additions, Wpgbrown, Cactus.man, JLJ001, and Wumbolo.

A lot is going on, much of it on the WikiProject's talk page, so be sure to go there and join in on any of the many discussions taking place there.

Elsewhere around the portal project, or related to portals, the following is happening...

New news template ready for testing

Evad37 has created a new template, with supporting lua module, to handle news in portals...

{{Transclude selected current events}} is ready to be tested in some actual portals. Let Evad37 know if you need help with the search patterns.

Noyster commented that "This is the best portal innovation since sliced bread!"

See the relevant discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals#Alternative to Wikinews.

Thank you, Evad.

Coming soon: Automatic article alerts (but there is a glitch)

Our WikiProject is now subscribed to the bot that makes automatic article alerts, but the subpage where they are posted has not been added to our WikiProject page yet because of a weird problem...

Featured portal nominations from two years ago keep popping up on there.

Please check Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Article alerts to see if you can figure out how to fix this.

Once that is remedied, it will be posted on our WikiProject page.

Thank you.

Note that, this will only track base pages, because to track the rest, we'd have to create over 140,000 talk pages for the subpages, and that just isn't worthwhile (as we're trying to remove the subpages anyways). Therefore, any alerts for subpages will still need to be posted manually.

New portal, still needs work

Drafting a new portals guideline

Your input/editing is welcome on the draft-in-progress of a new guideline for portals.

See or work on the draft at User:Cesdeva/sandbox11.

See also the discussion at: Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines#RfC on new portal guidelines

RfC on new TOC layout for main portal list

There is a proposal to change the look of the table of contents at Portal:Contents/Portals.

See: Portal talk:Contents/Portals#RFC on layout update.

Deletion discussion survivors

Thank you to those who have participated in portal deletion discussions. There are still some editors out there who despise portals, and this comes across in their argumentation style. Wow. Such negativity. But, there is some good news...

Current deletion discussions are posted on our WikiProject page.

Portal space clean up

While portal detractors are trying to get rid of portals via MfD, we have deleted many of them via speedy deletion (per {{Db-p1}} or {{Db-p2}}). Essentially, they were bare skeletons, with maybe a little meat on them. The plus here is that speedy deletion is without prejudice to re-creating the portals. They can easily be restarted from scratch without getting approval, or be undeleted by request by someone willing to work on them. We have kept track of these, for when someone wants to rebuild them. They are listed at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

We are also removing subpages, the functions of which have been migrated to portal base pages. To see which ones have been removed, look for the redlinks in our watchlist.

There is also an MfD concerning some of these at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Redundant subpages of the Cornwall portal.

For subpages that need to be deleted, you can conveniently place this speedy deletion template at the top of each of them:

{{Db-g6|rationale=of subpage clean up – this subpage's function has been migrated to the portal base page and is no longer needed}}

Then an admin will come along and delete them.

Please help list the unlisted portals!

There are still 100 existing portals not yet presented on the main portal list at Portal:Contents/Portals. There were 400, so we've come a long way. Thank you! But we are not done yet...

Please list a couple of them. Every little bit helps. If each member of this project listed one more, it would almost all be done. Many hands make light work.

The list of missings, and instructions, are to be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope to see you there!

Wrapping up

These developments make up just the tip of the iceberg. I'll have more to report in the next update, soon.    — The Transhumanist   00:32, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Whoa, I missed one...

There's an article about the Portals WikiProject in the new issue of Signpost:

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2018-05-24/WikiProject report

Enjoy.

P.S.: We now have 80 members. Evad37 just joined!    — The Transhumanist   01:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

How's that?    — The Transhumanist   19:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

@Transhumanist: That makes it easier when scrilling down the page, but the contents are still there. I still think it would be better to just have a newsletter section of the project and simply post a link to it on people's talk pages. Like they do with the Signpost, for example. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Okay, now's there's just a link. How's that?    — The Transhumanist   21:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
@Transhumanist: That's exactly what I think you should do in the future, though tweaked so the header isn't too long. Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Featured portal

I have undone your change to {{Featured portal}}. The empty star is used to reflect the outcome of the recent RfC on featured portals, Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 138#RfC about marking the Featured portals process as "historical". This should not be undone without a similar discussion. In particular I think for them to be considered featured like other content it would need the featured portal process reviving, but that is something for a further discussion.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 14:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

@JohnBlackburne: I'm sorry, but there is absolutely nothing in the RfC conclusion that says the featured star should be changed to an empty outline. There were two people who suggested the changes in the stars, and one person who objected to changing them. There is absolutely no consensus to change the stars to outlined versions. Go read it again. I'll wait. If people click on the star, it takes them to the page which tells them the process is considered historical now. That should be enough. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
quoting from the closing decision: "Something should be done with existing featured portals, for example giving them a badge of recognition that isn't quite the same as a full featured articles star", which was done by changing the gold star to the empty one. There are other ways this could have been achieved but that is how it was done. I noticed when it was done and thought it an appropriate solution. Which is why when I noticed them go back to gold stars I checked the template and restored the outlined ones.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 20:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Reading through the discussion, there was not consensus to do that. Whatever, though. People on enwiki seem to have bugs up their butts trying to get rid of portals. This seems to be just one more thing to marginalize them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello

I recently joined the Wikipedia and my first edit was the following page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_in_Armenia However my changes was reverted, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_banks_in_Armenia&oldid=prev&diff=845999665. I couldn't find out the reason, could you please help me to figure out why it was reverted? Thanks, Mkrtich. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkrtich.soghomonyan (talkcontribs) 15:07, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nihonjoe. Sorry for impatience. Agree I had to wait more for getting feedback. Concerning the page List_of_banks_in_Armenia, as I added more data there(like # of employees/branches and etc...) which are available for December 2017 yet, I decided to change the date also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkrtich.soghomonyan (talkcontribs) 12:03, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry to bug you, I picked your name up at the Japanese cinema task force. There was a new page created, which meets notability criteria, but I know the article title isn't in the proper format. I've looked at the sources, and can't decide exactly what the title change should be. I'm torn between Servamp: Alice in the Garden or Gekijōban Servamp: Alice in the Garden. Rather than move it to the wrong title, thought I'd ask for help from someone more well versed in Japanese. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 10:53, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

@Onel5969: Fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:44, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Never thanked you for this. So thanks. Onel5969 TT me 14:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

response to your message

Hi,

I changed my user name as you instructed. From charlottelatinschool to susalcarp. I am still blocked from editing the incorrect information about Charlotte Latin School.

˜˜˜˜ susalcarp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Susalcarp (talkcontribs) 00:09, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

@Susalcarp: I'm removing your help-me template. By placing a message on Nihonjoe's talk page, you have already sent him a message. The message at the top of his talk page says he is possibly unresponsive the next few weeks. Your new account does not appear to be blocked currently, but you have not placed a COI disclosure on your talk page yet with respect to the Charlotte Latin School and should not be editing it directly even after you have made your disclosure. If there is incorrect information on the page, use an edit request on Talk:Charlotte Latin School to explain what needs to be removed or corrected and another editor will be able to make appropriate changes, or discuss the changes with you there. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 01:51, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


New Message

Hello, Nihonjoe. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
@Mr Xaero: We generally don't scrub such things from the history. Simply reverting it is acceptable, which you've already done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:11, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
👍 — Mr Xaero ☎️ 16:12, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

How to revert to a previous version of an article

Hi Nihonjoe, is there anyway to revert to a previous version of an article? i dont know who keeps making changes to an article i contributed to: "Dionisio Gutierrez Mayorga" but noticed it was flagged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GES1985HM (talkcontribs) 15:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@GES1985HM: There is no article for Dionisio Gutierrez Mayorga. Please provide a link to the article in question. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:19, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Okay, apparently there is now an article. It was a redlink when I replied. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:56, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

FYI

OTRS received an email regarding Dionisio Gutierrez Mayorga. ticket:2018072510008328 I'm in the odd position of thinking that's a bit of overtagging, yet my most recent response was my surprise that a BLP without references wasn't nominated for deletion. Please feel free to contribute to the OTRS ticket.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:21, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I posted this before seeing the previous post. Please see the OTRS ticket, as I responded, in a fashion, to the post above.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:22, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: I added a section on the talk page explaining the issues. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Tu Books

On 16 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tu Books, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that publisher Tu Books was created via a Kickstarter campaign, then purchased by Lee & Low Books three months later? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tu Books. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tu Books), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Nihonjoe, do you plan on returning to your DYK review here? If not, I can put out a call for a new reviewer. Please let me know one way or the other. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC)