Commpare with this,[1] with Black Kite advertising that you comments are "clueless" Ikip (talk) 23:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
LOL! He joined wikipedia to delete stuff that most people like, and unfortunately he can't do that now, so he is quitting. Since we've faced problems with him before, closing AFD his way, ignoring consensus of all the keeps, I'm glad to see him go, and more so that I was one of the ones that caused him to give up(although he'll probably be back soon enough). The golden age may come again, and the many articles that thrived since the time when wikipedia was young, only to be destroyed by hordes of deletitionists later on who decided the encyclopedia shouldn't have such things in it, shall be restored. When notability guidelines are replaced entirely by common sense, or a large tag atop them saying "these are just suggestions people! Use the reasoning part of your brain for things!" I dream of a day this will come to pass, and wikipedia will be the interesting paradise it once was. DreamFocus 00:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I've been in enough to know how things end. There is no vote of the general populace on any of those essay/guideline/policy pages, it all up to whatever small group camps out there the longest, adding what they want, reverting others, and arguing nonstop until the other side gives up in frustration. Therefor you can't expect any reasonable person to take any of it seriously. Wikipedia is not a set of rules. You ignore all rules, and use common sense. DreamFocus 10:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Well millions disagree with you. WP:NOTANARCHY. DJ 10:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, no, you've never had even 1% of Wikipedia users participate in any of those things. And what exists now, was not there in the early years of Wikipedia, back in the golden age, before the evil hoards of deletionists forced their will upon the silent masses, changing policies, and mass deleting things calling it cruft, hacking large chunks of articles away because they didn't like it, and nominating many others for deletion. DreamFocus 10:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Dreamfocus: I suggest you pick up the March 2010 issue of Comic Buyer's Guide and read the column "But I Digress." I think you will appreciate it.Padguy (talk) 00:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for mentioning that. I am curious to see what you wrote. DreamFocus 05:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Kind of ironic that during the AFD, they didn't consider you a credible reference despite your experience in the industry, but as soon as you publish something, it does become a credible reference used to establish notability. Same guy, saying the same thing, but only when its in print, do they take it seriously. And there are articles for a lot of things the actor has had a significant role in, as the blue links in his filmography section of his article now indicate. You mention the deletionist nominator didn't consider Space Cases to be a notable work, and yet is long had an article on the Wikipedia. DreamFocus 14:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you are quite correct in your analysis. The ignorance I keep seeing displayed in Afds never fails to stun me. See this example. "Minor"? He is considered the founder of the many decades old and international scounting movement that has affected millions of people. Moreover, he was one of the commanders in the siege of Mafeking, one of the two most important in the Boer War. Winning one of history's decisive victories in a significant colonial conflict (one of Britain's costliest and most well known from that era and one with long-term ramifications) and founding one of the most well-known international movements is hardly "minor". As far as his alleged homosexuality not being a "vast topic" is just ludicrously false. Do a Google Books search of Baden-Powell and sexuality or homosexuality and you get hundreds of results with multi-paragraph anaylses in published books, such as in this paragraph or this entry. Declaring him "minor" reflects a lack of familiarity of his actually significant role in history, something any historian would know. Saying his sexuality has not received significant attention is either a false declaration or yet again reflects either not actually doing any even cursory research or having no real knowledge of the subject. And in a larger sense, humans as living creatures are driven in a significant part by their biology. The notion that our sexual desires does not influence us is ludicrous. In order to understand important historical figure's motivations, we need to consider even the controversial aspects of their lives. Now, from a purely academic standpoint, AfDs are frequently so out of touch with facts, honesty, etc. and are therefore so surreal as to defy just about any seriousness. Actual experts on any given subject do not frown upon Wikipedia because it covers some subjects that a vocal minority arbitrarily and usually ignorantly deem non-notable, but we frown upon Wikipedia on occasion rather because a vocal minority arbitrarily and usually ignorantly deems subjects for which they are not experts non-notable. And we keep seeing that every time someone bafflingly refers to someone with actual historical significance in at least two major instances as "minor." Just as we do with the example of the image you have recently edited, i.e. as the article cites an instance in which someone wanting to delete refers to a guy as a female amidst other factual errors that anyone familiar with the subject would not make. One other thing to keep in mind is that it is not as if "deletionists" outnumber the masses. One of the major failings of AfDs is that they do NOT reflect the actual will of the community. They are nothing more than a snapshot in time reflection of usually at best a dozen editor's who happen to be familiar with Afds. Most critically is that those with the mindset you describe are far more apt to hover around AfDs, whereas most others prefer article contributions (I like welcoming new editors myself...) or are sufficiently busy in their real lives so as to be unable to devote time to such discussions. Thus, we end up with scenarios in which thousands of people come here for an article that scores of editors contributed to being decided by a handful of accounts that in many instances have neither interest nor knowledge in the subject under discussion and because they personally are not interested in it and thus are unwilling to do any real research to see how it can be sourced/improved, they declare it is not worthy for anyone else either. We can generally agree that hoaxes, libel, and copyright violations have no place on Wikipedia and so I would never fault someone for wanting to protect Wikipedia from legally damaging or dishonest content. But once we start seeing calls to delete based on subjective bases, such as notability, then we start getting into deletion as a matter of personal preference indeed being forced upon others. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 05:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Nice note. We should create some stats on the worst nominators regarding their unsuccessful AfD rate!--Milowent • talkblp-r 12:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Wherever I go on Wikipedia, your username seems to pop up (maybe I notice it because of the colors (or should I say colours) but I notice anyway). Although we obviously have different points of view I like the way that you battle for the freedom of speech and information on Wikipedia. Keep up the good work! (Or is that to British?). But the real reason why I am here is that, maybe in future, I would like to quote some of your statements in my user section. Would you be comfortable with that? --JHvW(talk) 15:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Go for it. Wikipedia is all about sharing. DreamFocus 18:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I absolutely endorse Heroic inclusionist against the evil deletionist hordes[edit]
At least I feel understood! I have changed the Title of my article as you suggested, thanks FC 18:07, 17 March 2011 (UTC) Note: Moved from userpage by me. Airplaneman ✈ 18:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Please click here to find the answers to the questions you ask at the autoconfirmation RFC. Don't overlook the more recent/shorter time frame update on its talk page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Its amazing that 10,161 new users had their articles deleted, and only 64 remained to continue editing after that. Many just having their article nominated or prodded for deletion, or it turned into a redirect, might take off as well. DreamFocus 02:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Dream, you probably don't know me, but I wanted to ask you something. I first encountered your tag on AfDs, which is the only thing I occasionally peruse now. From there, I found your user page, and that is when I was convinced that you are definitely a kindred spirit in heart. I used to be quite active on Wikipedia, but after an incident involving a deletionist (nominating hundreds of articles a day after tagging them with every notability tag possible - including ones that made no sense), I lost heart. A lot of work is now gone, perhaps forever, over just not being able to keep up with what he was doing. I did save one! - (Bunnies & Burrows) - but others of equal references went bye-bye in ways you describe on your user page. So, now that I've given a little background, I have a question for you. How do you keep on going? In the past, I was passionate about trying to help Wikipedia. I took a break after the Gavin incident, and after two years, he has finally been banned. However, hundreds (maybe thousands) of articles are now gone - and each one could have been saved. I am just not sure I want to even try anymore. What would be the point? Wikipedia has changed - and I am not sure I want to be part of the environment it has become. Yet, you strive forward - and try to make a difference. Feel free to reply on my talk page if you like - or keep it here. I look forward to reading your response. (Interesting note, I had to comment on some AfDs really quick to get my recent posts high enough to post this here) Turlo Lomon (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I think anyone but new users can post here, and you are only a new user until you have been around for four days and made at least 10 edits, or something minor like that. As long as you are logged in and not an IP address, it shouldn't be a problem. The relentless rampage of the hordes of evil deletionists does indeed cause many to loose hope at times. But I focus on the majority of AFDs I participate in that end in Keep, instead of dwelling on the unfortunate few that end up getting deleted. Its horrible when logic fails, and the bad guys get their way, however for the most part, as long as enough people show up to notice what's going on and comment, the articles are saved. If you see an article that you believe can be saved, tag it for the Rescue Squadron and help is on the way. Category:Articles_tagged_for_deletion_and_rescue. Be warned of course, some deletionists do sometimes go there just to find a reason to delete something and insult us. Must be careful to remain calm and not sink to their despicable level. DreamFocus 01:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the detective work to find the editnotice page. Now I will not forget again. Blue Rasberry(talk) 17:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Just came here to thank you for the editnotice and it seems you have one yourself. Coolio. Androzaniamy (talk) 18:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Saw your note about this on the Colonel's page and have made on for myself. Thanks again for sharing this important knowledge! FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:53, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Whoops! I forgot to tell you. I was trying to think, who to tell, and who might not want to be bothered. It can be put on any page at all. DreamFocus 13:12, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Actually, FYI, it only works on each editor's own user and user talk page. I saw this posted on your user page and was surprised that any editor could apparently create an editnotice for any article; after looking into it, I was relieved to find that that's not the case. Theoldsparkle (talk) 15:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dream. I got impressed for the polemic produced in that debate, and seemed very, very unlikely the deletion of the article. In cases like that is it not obvious that any article should be kept? How is possible one admin taking that final decision? It is clear that a neutral committee should decide that. It seems pretty much a contestable act over there, therefore a clear case to the Deletion review. My main problem is finding time to all this, however I will be there if you or some else do the request. By the way, thanks for all; you are a true knight. Excalibursword (talk) 14:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm busy with other things in life and don't have time for a long drawn out debate I don't think will go anywhere. The people that put that area on their watchlist and show up regularly usually side with the deletionist mentality. DreamFocus 14:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Sometimes the fight is more important than the victory or defeat.Dream Focus, you did a lot and well. We fight every day of our lives, keep in mind fighting to right principles (as you done over there), then you and all will be always winning. Barnstars are interesting but here is a more useful tool to you. Excalibursword (talk) 17:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Not a battleground, just a place were opposing camps see who can argue the longest at the guideline pages to get things their way, and use the results to justify elimination types of articles they don't like. A place where people arguing nonstop at AFDs over whether articles should be kept or deleted, people seldom agreeing with one another or convince of someone else's viewpoint at all, locked into what they believe at first, and refusing to budge from it. DreamFocus 19:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Kudos for having the guts of putting List of pedophiles for DRV. Your arguments make lots of sense. It's too bad that looks like the mix of BLP paranoia and deletionism trumps everything else again. --Cyclopiatalk 01:25, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Dream, I just saw that you took that to DRV, and also commend you for having the balls to do so. When that was on for speedy deletion I had removed the tag and suggested it needed to go to AFD, but it was deleted soon afterwards anyway. See User_talk:The_Devil's_Advocate#List_of_pedophiles. I am very uncomfortable about any actions we take that appear to provide comfort to pedophiles. How can pedophiles deserve a pass when a List of convicted war criminals does not? I don't understand how this was speedy material.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:21, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
When there are that many people piling up on the other side of an issue, it's useful to contemplate what that means, I have found. It might have been better to let this one go, I think. Herostratus (talk) 16:11, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
It means many people will look at a title and not bother thinking things through before making a decision. Or will actually believe some nonsense about Google caching something and it on the internet forever, destroying people's lives? Ridiculous. DreamFocus 20:29, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
So I gather you didn't learn anything from this. That's too bad. I make mistakes -- we all do, I guess, except maybe you -- and contemplating them helps me to learn and grow. Oh well. Herostratus (talk) 23:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
I made no mistake in this. I used logic to try to reason with people, while they simply refused to think things through, and thus one more perfectly valid article is lost to Wikipedia this day. DreamFocus 00:42, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, I kind of resent that comment. I'm logical. I'm intelligent. I think things through. I've thought about this kind of thing for a long time and have a fully formed and internally consistent view the matter. So just maybe there's something else in play here. Herostratus (talk) 05:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Maybe you are in denial. Others have gone there and agreed with my reasoning. A simple name change would've solved all problems. If its fine as a category, no reason why it wouldn't be as a list. Only those convicted of the crime would be on the list. Google does not store a permanent copy of anything, the cache updated regularly, so that concern ridiculous. And if vandalism ever was an actual problem, semi-protection could be placed there to stop new users from editing it. Please go there to debate these issues on the proper page if you can come up with a logical reason why it'd be a problem. DreamFocus 06:49, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Just a quick note to express my appreciation on your comments regarding what I view as a coordinatedattack on ARS. Keep it up. Faustus37 (talk) 08:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
As opposed to the more common coordinated attack by ARS? What nonsense this entire palaver is. - Sitush (talk) 15:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
There are no coordinated attacks. You don't see anyone joining in some AFDs tagged for rescue, and when someone does join its never that many people, and they don't always say to keep things either. DreamFocus 15:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
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Cool! I won a t-shirt. DreamFocus 02:56, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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Its so only the most determined will post here. No, seriously, I had no idea, since my internet is fast enough things load up instantly. I thought everyone had DSL or higher these days. I'm archiving some chunks of it now. DreamFocus 20:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
What part of "unsourced fancruft" is everyone failing to grasp here? An article that long should not have only four sources. And where is the out of universe notability? I'm not seeing it. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:02, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
If you see something that needs sources to prove the statement is true, you tag it. You do NOT just toss out dozens of citation needed tags all over the place, where they don't belong. If the paragraph mentions what episode or book the information is from, there is no need to repeat that in a reference. And calling something "fancruft" just shows your reason for trying to delete it was that you just don't like it. How many times have you had everyone else against you trying to delete something, and you still don't get it? DreamFocus 19:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi! I recreated the article about the Danish band PPOT. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I used my Highbeam account but only found one article where they mention the band and quote the guitarist. I tossed a link to it into the article as a reference. DreamFocus 01:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much for adding that one! It's great to add English sources which give some details about the band. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Regarding comment on template:VAP when you said there was little there gender-specific, I would like to remove anything which is gender-specific and was wondering if you had suggestions for something there which should be removed? Ranze (talk) 21:19, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
I realize I worded things wrong. I should've been more specific. I have now responded and hopefully cleared things up. Some issues affect both genders, so no need for those articles to have just a template for women. DreamFocus 23:26, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dream Focus. Your edit comment here when you re-added a very surprising medical assertion needs to be backed up by the provision of the promised reliable sources. For such medical assertions, the standard to meet is wp:MEDREV. A television news spot doesn't come close to being good enough. LeadSongDogcome howl! 04:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
You are wrong. This is a reliable source, and there is no possible reason to doubt the information. Check Google news results and you'll find ample coverage of this in many reliable sources. Please don't start an edit war trying to remove it again. DreamFocus 09:24, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Redflag links to a bit that says "surprising or apparently important claims not covered by multiple mainstream sources;". That's not valid here, since it is covered by multiple mainstream sources. DreamFocus 09:26, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
While I think I've heard of that too (and as a molecular biologist, I have to say the use of viruses to target cancer therapies is not unheard of, albeit I'm unsure of its success), I'd like to see a WP:MEDRS-compliant source as well. A video by a mainstream news is not a RS for medical claims -unfortunately they get stuff wrong more often than right, when dealing with medicine/science. --Cyclopiatalk 06:31, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
I find it unlikely scientists at a major university would lie about achieving something like this. A private company you could doubt, but would a university lie? I added in an additional source statement before my addition to the article was removed again. [4]DreamFocus 08:11, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Trust me, academic researchers lie. The point is however not about lying, but it is about how news reports science things, and how researchers themselves report their stuff (Hint: they both tend to hyper-inflate achievements). Just look for the academic paper about the claim. --Cyclopiatalk 12:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
I don't think we were quite ready for that move yet - I had just proposed that we do that as an alternative to simply merging the variations into the main Sega Genesis article, and we're in the middle of discussing that. I would recommend reverting that move until we figure out which direction we want to go with it. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:32, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Whenever someone is confused about the nature of a list article, its always best to add "list of" in front of its name to clarify. You can never be too obvious. And the name change doesn't affect the pretend merge discussion. Nothing would be merged in this case, its just a way to get around going to a proper article for deletion which they aren't likely to succeed in their goal of destroying it. DreamFocus 23:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'd appreciate if you would take another look at the RfC discussion on the Shooting of Trayvon Martin. As you may be aware, I proposed specific text for consideration on 16 Aug in the discussion thread. I hope you will comment on that specific proposal. Dezastru (talk) 20:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Why? You want to make it sound like he is a racist, when he clearly is not. There is no possible reason to mention the race of the people he called 911 about in any form, since race had nothing to do with him calling to report them. DreamFocus 20:44, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
No. It'll just get deleted. They could've just changed the name of the last article and done some trimming as necessary, but decided to delete it. Putting the bulk of the deleted content, the same exact information, in a new article, will most likely be deleted as well. If you want to do it, then ask the closing administrator to userfy it on your talk page, and you can then copy and paste sections over easily. You can also create a page for it at the abuse.wikia.com DreamFocus 12:15, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, if you mean that we indiscriminately copy all the old material to a new name, then yes, that would probably get deleted because it would remain to be improper synthesis - please read WP:SYNTH. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Dream Focus. I'm in the process of completing a feature on the topic of "List article management" for WP:VG's newsletter and I was hoping to make this article include views from Wikipedians of several different perspectives. I've contacted a number of editors with whom I've interacted in the past (both in conflict and in cooperation), and several of them have agreed to help provide views for the article. I was hoping for two views at the very start to introduce the idea that inclusive "list of..." articles are one of the things that set Wikipedia apart (in a good way) from traditional encyclopedias. Sadly only one of the editors I contacted about this issue was available to provide a view. I've seen your arguments at AfD in favor of keeping "List of..." articles, and I think you might be well-suited to writing a few sentences covering this topic if you have the time. The newsletter is due out by October 3 so I apologize for springing this on you at the last second, but if you are interested in helping then you can find a draft of the article in my sandbox: User:Thibbs/Sandbox7. The part where I need one more quote is up at the top and you can just replace the dummy name "User:XXXXX" with your name. Please don't feel pressured, though, because I can always rework the article's top half if need be. I completely understand if you don't have time. Either way, thanks. -Thibbs (talk) 21:46, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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It wasn't a test, it just didn't work. It works when I do it on my user and talk page, just not on an article page apparently. Any idea how to make it work? Might not make any difference though. I notice that its always an IP address in the same range, thus surely the same person, that goes around to various articles adding that same category back into them, only to be reverted time and time again. DreamFocus 19:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
Oops. It looks like I got a little carried away when editing Kill screen, and I didn't look very closely at your edit. It seems as though we were both trying to add the same Ars Technica article as a source at the same time, and I assumed that you were simply reverting the page. My version uses citation templates and has minimalist, stubby language culled directly from the sources, instead of the original text, which is not currently supported by the citations offered. It's not an issue to me, though. I'll self-revert to your version, if you want. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I just used the Wikproject video game custom Google search for "dig dug" and "kill screen" and found that article, so restored the deleted content with that reference put in there. Making it shorter is fine, I don't really care. I believe the Super Mario Bros surely has a reliable source out too there somewhere covering it, but I was unable to find one. DreamFocus 22:47, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I spent a long time trying to find one, but there just don't seem to be any reliable sources that specifically call it a "kill screen". I did find one or two that referred to it as famous glitch, but that's not really the same thing. Subjectively, it seems to count, but I can't validate it in any reliable sources. I forgot about that custom google search. Thanks for reminding me. That probably would have saved me some time. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
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I was wondering, is there a limit to the number of times someone can repeatedly attempt to re-merge or delete an article. While Ryulong did the AFD and subsequent merge at Dragon Ball after twice blanking and redirecting it out, we've already gone through at least 4 merge battles over Ghost in the Shell and the latest is no different. He dropped out of mediation and went right back to the argument after it was already discussed for 100 pages in length. I simply do not know what to do. It's such a waste of time and Ryulong repeatedly deletes improvements. The Dragon Ball page is likely going to be kept, but this battle over every single page is really disruptive and damaging. I don't know what options I have left. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 12:13, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
People like that never give up. If you get a handful of people like that together, they are virtually unstoppable, they enforcing their will on every article they get to, harassing anyone who feels differently until they give up arguing. When I first came to Wikipedia, there was a handful of people on Manga and anime Wikiproject, who somehow decided they were helping Wikipedia by mass deleting manga and anime articles. Large numbers of articles sent to AFD daily for a time there, no way to sort through them all, and most were deleted. One editor, who thankfully is no longer at Wikipedia, would take articles that she failed to delete, and go back later when she thought no one was watching, and replace these articles with a redirect. I created http://manga.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page to save as many articles as I could, copying over every anime and manga article Wikipedia had over there, and then doing a full history export for any article that was nominated for deletion. DreamFocus 13:00, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
The merge discussion was done on Wikiproject talk page, as well as the talk pages of various articles in this series before. If you want to search around and find links to and list the dates of the times it was discussed already, that might be useful in stopping it from happening again. The same guy in this case started the merge discussion months ago, and then did so again now. How many other times has he tried this? DreamFocus 13:19, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Since January the Ghost in the Shell matter has been disputed. Since April, Ryulong has been a part of it which actually brought me in to the full and terrible realization of what is being done in this corner of Wikipedia. Ryulong initially accepted mediation, but was not content to have it be paused while he continued to bring up the core dispute in various venues. I can give a list of pages, but it has happened more than 15 times he's edit warred to redirect articles and several other users express his same sentiments which are best labeled as "extremist" because of the radical interpretation of policy. Some of the users believe WP:PAGEDECIDE allows articles to be repeatedly blank and redirected if several editors agree. Perhaps you caught a glimpse of it at the Dragon Ball anime AFD under "speedy close" entry which stated my protests under WP:BLAR for AFD as "Forum Shopping [with] an incompetent grasp of Consensus policies. [Chris's] perspective on the matter is weightless and he's just fishing for a more favorable outcome." Even the whole "merge" issue is completely against the purposes of a list. There is a deep divide, but it is clear that several members of the Anime and Manga Wikiproject are actively limiting notable content and believe that their destructive and disruptive removals are beneficial. If they do not believe such removals are beneficial than they are WP:NOTHERE to improve Wikipedia and should be dealt with accordingly. I just can't get them to engage in actual discussion or even state why their actions represent improvements - and Ryulong seems to be against it because he considers it fighting against "the fandom". ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Lucia has just merged the Ghost in the Shell manga to the original contested page.[5][6] Unless I am reading the !votes and arguments wrong, this is the third time it was no consensus this year. And if anything the discussion on the disamb is still in limbo. Given her comments at Talk:Ghost in the Shell (film) and the fact the manga is going to become a GAN when this is over and the game IS at GAN, I think a DISAMB is the best route. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I kinda sense what way you were going to go based on the discussion so I moved the Ghost in the Shell page to Ghost in the Shell (franchise) and made Ghost in the Shell redirect to Ghost in the Shell (disambiguation). As it stands the break down shows no consensus to merge the franchise article, but the disamb idea had more support. Dragon Zero thought disamb would be best and so did I. In another unrelated matter, Shiroi leaned heavily to disambs in the matter. Ryulong was on the fence since one existed, but the way it is now resolves that conflict. I believe given the situation that you'd find a disamb proper under WP:DISAMB - at least until the franchise gets more work and backing to prove otherwise. Since two of the articles featuring "Ghost in the Shell", film and game, are at GAN and the "Ghost in the Shell" manga was "no consensus to merge" the disamb is all the more necessary when the manga is finished and goes to GAN. The fair possibility of having three GAs on three different topics all bearing the same name alone is reason enough to have the disamb be the first page readers see. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:01, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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Ryulong is trying to merge the Bleach (anime) page again; he's currently blocked for 24 hours for edit warring over at Knockout (violent game) which resulted in yet another RFC break down for a completely unrelated issue. ArbCom looks inevitable, but I worry about A&M's future. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I did notice that. Not really taking him seriously though. It'll just be like the Dragon Ball anime merger attempt. [7]DreamFocus 01:02, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
The editor that you reverted I can tell is going to edit war and he has a upper hand on the 3rr in West Monroe, Louisiana so please help me out with what seems to be bias and not liking it for a personal reason that we will probably never tell. Jhenderson777 20:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Also he removed the city in the navbox so it will be off of a article that is probably the main reason why he don't like. So what do you think? Related or not related? Jhenderson777 20:38, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
I am not really disagreeing with you, Dream Focus. Regarding the channels thing. The main thing is that there is not a article on the Duck Commander tv series yet. Not even a redirection. Which would probably belong on the tv channel if someone boldly created it. So it doesn't seem right to remove the channels until we get a article on that tv series yet. I will see if I can make a compromise though. Jhenderson777 21:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
There. How does that work? Also I will create that redirection though. Maybe being the good inclusionist you are. You maybe can find notability for that so it won't link to the redundant link. Jhenderson777 21:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
If we had a navbox for every single television show that's ever been on a channel, the television channel's article would be insanely long. Only the articles related to this should be in the navbox. DreamFocus 22:31, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Haha. I doubt that both A&E and the other channel made many that would have navboxes but I am not sure. I can assure it's not as bad as Stan Lee. Anyways you still don't remove until it's removed from the navbox mostly. Also of course I did it for you and decided to just make the link where I redirect the tv series subject at. I hope you have a Happy New Years! Jhenderson777 02:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
If you can put this on this on the watchlist or expand on this. Please do so. It's possible that it can be a victim of AFD. Jhenderson777 14:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I did a quick look for the book's name in Google news search, and sorted through some of the hits. Only found passing mention of it. It is a bestseller though so going to have reviews out there in detail somewhere. Who wouldn't want to interview such an interesting person? DreamFocus 15:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for accumulating so much information on your user page. And also thank you for just being around. Perkohesisht ai i vjetri (talk) 18:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
"GA nonsense" is not 100% accurate. Many of the most broad articles are not GA, but many specific ones are GA or higher, including many military ones. While 99% of articles are not GA, the amount of work that goes into each article not at GA is not insignificant. It is not a good measurement stick to go by. Also, the GA process requires a full peer review of sorts and that is bottlenecking the process. I've done more than 50 in the last two weeks and that is completely insane. With that being said, I am sure I could do a GA a day if I needed to, but it takes 3+ months just to get the review started. That's such a broken process that the GAN system is the reason it so few people do it. I can try to fix that, but its something Wikipedia has made as its own barrier. Do you agree? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
I wrote that after a debate at Talk:Sega_Genesis#Menacer_merge where some want to delete/redirect an article, because it doesn't have GA status, while the other related articles do. I pointed out how few articles on Wikipedia have that status, and that was a ridiculous reason to try to eliminate an article. I'll clarify on my user page. DreamFocus 21:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that he is not apparently part of any "anti-abortion movement" per se, and is "against abortion" but linking to any movement might be not actually called for. The headline using :anti-abortion" is not part of the source, and the source only says "against abortion." Which is likely the proper term to use, and not wikilinked to something which might convey an erroneous impression. Cheers. Collect (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Pro-life redirects to Anti-abortion movements also. The source says he makes an anti-abortion speech, meaning he is against abortion obviously. We all know that "anti" means "against", so anti-abortion is the best term for an encyclopedia to use. Pro-life can be used for things other than anti-abortion, including those against the death penalty. DreamFocus 20:36, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Which is a good reason for non-wikilinking here -- there is. moreover, a Pro-life (disambiguation) page as well. This issue is whether linking to a "movement" is proper in the case at hand. Cheers. Collect (talk) 21:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
I guess you saw the signpost request for an ARS expose (if not it's here). Strange you were not notified. I am new to ARS and really like the idea of it and editors involved. However it seems like there are others out there who would like to see it closed down. I thought about replying but the questions led me to answers that I'm afraid could antagonize deletionists and/or draw attention to myself as an inclusionist to be knee-jerk resisted. And since this group has so few active members, a small handful, it's not clear bringing attention is going to harm or hurt. As such I'll add the page to my watchlist and follow not lead on the best way forward. I think a careful reply here could be beneficial to bringing in new users, but I don't know enough about the history of the project or where the fault lines are. Just some ideas it could be better suited to a reply by committee with a re-do of the questions (for example why the group was founded), basically using it as a recruitment platform. Or maybe ignored entirely. -- GreenC 17:20, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
I see that four people were contacted, two of them never use the ARS at all, one of them posting on the talk page they didn't. That's how I found it. Wikipedia_talk:Article_Rescue_Squadron#Wikiproject_Report Maybe just those active on the daily article for improvement project got contacted by mistake. DreamFocus 18:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Since you posted I'll try to add something. I'm pretty fed up with AfD at the moment, arguing the notability rules which are continually ignored, beating the same prone equine. Dealing with editors with bars for inclusion so high it would eliminate vast swaths of articles. Pre-determined votes with little or no research (usually based in personal bias), inability to be reasonable and flexible. It's like super-human effort to overcome -- and then often doesn't even work. And this just touches the surface.
I've enjoyed reading your page as you clearly have been through all this and more. It's a great resource and document. In some ways perhaps it reflects humanity and larger issues - tyranny vs rule of law; competition for resources. Someone should do a study. Anyway I appreciate your help in the past and will try to rally here. -- GreenC 19:48, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Whoa! I see what you are talking about by checking your recent history. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Achal_Prabhala_(2nd_nomination) is ridiculous! These people don't understand the guidelines. I commented there. I also contacted the three editors who said delete before you found over twenty reviews of the guy's work to ask them to look at it now. Don't ever give up and withdraw your vote. You made a valid case here. DreamFocus 20:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Well I appreciate your help. I withdrew for personal reasons. There's an editor on that page who recently showed up I am not willing to collaborate with. Fortunately we are not forced to work with anyone we don't want too. I think if more people took this stance there would be fewer Wikipedia drop-outs and less conflict. But maybe I'm crazy, works for me. Sorry didn't mean to embroil you into any specific AfD cases. -- GreenC 21:24, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I missed the Signpost article thing, good job guys! I love the quote "one of the most important WikiProjects of them all, the Article Rescue Squadron." Because its actually true. I haven't been active at AFD lately, my concern there is more the lack of participation leading to bad results. E.g., I stumbled across Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strange Universe the other day, it would have been deleted from laziness, not even ill-intentioned, if I hadn't fixed it.--Milowent • hasspoken 17:42, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Ample reviews found after you commented in an AFD[edit]
hi Dream Focus, I actually contributed to look for the sources by editing Achal Prabhala's article. I find that the abundance of sources clearly state the notability of this person. After the discussion was closed I even posted a note on the noticeboard of biographies of living persons (maybe not the right place) because I was surprised on how quickly it was closed. I obviously think the articles is a "keep" but I am not sure I should state it on the AFD; I have no COI but I know this person. Thanks for your work, --Iopensa (talk) 21:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Your comments on this talk page have now been quoted and commented on in the AFD by the guy arguing with everyone to delete it. [8]DreamFocus 10:05, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. --Iopensa (talk) 12:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
I notice you've been trying to stir up opinions against my username in various places. If you've got a problem with me, my username, or my conduct, I'd appreciate you taking it up directly with me personally. ✄ (talk) 12:59, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) It's a problematic username, so expect things to be stirred up ES&L 14:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I posted at User_talk:DGG#Same_editor_with_two_accounts_in_same_argument_with_you because you responded to his post with two different accounts, and asked what he thought about that. He said you probably did it by accident, so I let the issue go. I asked if that symbol was allowed for a name at Wikipedia_talk:Username_policy#Using_a_picture_for_a_username_instead_of_something_people_could_spell_and_pronounce since the rule page does not mention symbols at all, only alphabets other than Latin. Someone linked to an old discussion about this [9] which surprisingly had people commenting on ✄ as a username. I don't see any reason why someone would edit under two different accounts anyway, especially if you are using both of them on the same pages, people not realizing its the same guy talking to them. DreamFocus 18:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Regarding User:Dotarray, I revisited the talk page and noticed that she'd already been given a final warning. The account has now been indefinitely blocked. OhNoitsJamieTalk 15:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Doom 4 is now Doom. Too. --Niemti (talk) 12:59, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
No, Doom 4 is still Doom 4. They did not announce it was being renamed. The link [10] doesn't show that. They call it "the DOOM beta access pre-order bonus" but don't say its going to be called Doom when the full game is released. DreamFocus 16:55, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
So I've come back from a little breather in the A&M space and found that tons of issues still remain. While I've been cleaning up a large amount of them, it still totals over 9000 issues. 1/3 articles in the project have some issue. Obviously, I can't do all the work, no one really could keep it all up, but I want a bunch of GAs in the area. Should we fix the issues to improve widely the problem - or should a focus on perfecting individual pages? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't pay attention to the rating system. If you are interested in an article, you'll read it, and if not, you won't. I sometimes check for mentions of things in reliable sources and add in references and additional information, but that's usually about it, and mostly just whatever I happen to be reading about, or something random I happen upon. You should probably just focus on Bleach (anime) as you are now, and move from there. It has 47,111 views in the past 30 days so its an important article. I'm not sure if there is a bot somewhere that can tell you which Anime and Manga articles got the most views, but if so, that'd help determine which ones should be worked on the most. DreamFocus 02:22, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
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Dream Focus, with respect to this edit of yours at Dragons of Summer Flame, you are quite simply wrong. There's been extensive discussion of which parameters are appropriate to infoboxes, and the agreement reached was publisher and release date should indeed be on the same line. (The month a book was published is unnecessary information). If you don't believe me, then try asking Randkitty, who is an experienced editor, or ask for help from WikiProject Books. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:08, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Books#should_infobox_contain_the_month_as_well_as_the_year_something_was_published.3F I started a conversation about that. Since it affects thousands of articles, it needs to be discussed properly. Not one infobox of any type across Wikipedia puts two things on the same line, as you wish to do with the publisher's name and year published. Books, comics, manga, films, television shows, and video games, always list the month and even day if it is available. DreamFocus 00:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
You're quite wrong about infoboxes never putting "two things on the same line", but I won't argue about that here. I've replied to you on the WikiProject Books talk page. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 02:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi. In case you didn't already know, Asgardian has been unblocked. Just thought you should know. Nightscream (talk) 23:19, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
They say he is "indefinitely topic-banned from Marvel Comic". So he can only cause problems in other articles. And they won't ban him the first time he is caught acting up again, but instead only block him for a month. Only his third block will be permanent. Rather odd way to do it. DreamFocus 23:52, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
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I undid your edit to that talk page. If theweek.com is a "high traffic" web site, consider putting the {{high traffic}} template right above the first comment. If it is not a high-traffic site, then just leave it alone. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:55, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Its referenced in 951 Wikipedia articles. Facebook ads link to new stories by it now. 104k Facebook likes. No article for the website exist yet, which is odd, it seems to be a major news site, but they don't have an About page about them. I couldn't remember what the template was to mention something was mentioned in the news. DreamFocus 20:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
You're right; a bomb and a bell aren't connected in normal thought. The connection is that naming the bomb the Tsar Bomba was analogous to the naming of the the other two well-known "tsars" in Russian history: the Tsar Bell and the Tsar Cannon (I don't know anything about a Tsar Tank). However, I'm content with your edit. SkoreKeep (talk) 01:37, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Its a search engine so you put in [http://web.archive.org/web/20050401000000*/http://silverbulletcomicbooks.com/reviews for reviews ..silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news for news etc. As you find each use of the site as a reference just determine what it is and then search by clicking on the years that the review is from and then the months come up. As long as you know what it is and the date it isn't that difficult to locate the old reviw or news item.--Mark Miller (talk) 07:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Mostly I see external links that link to reviews on that site and others. Not the way its suppose to be laid out anyway. Unless someone runs a bot to do this automatically, I don't think anyone is going to go through and manually do it for over a hundred articles. DreamFocus 07:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
If you think it is important enough, this would call for a task force of maybe two or three people a few hours a day for a few days. I could mention it on one of the projects. I know the best editor/admin to at least drop a note to who might be willing to get the ball rolling. They seem willing to help out in Comic book related articles.--Mark Miller (talk) 09:42, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Good idea. I just posted at the Wikiproject for comics. [11] I don't care enough to bother with it, but someone else can if they feel like it. DreamFocus 10:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
I didn't create it, someone else did by adding people to it, I just turned it from a red link to a blue. I have informed the real creator of this category of the situation though. DreamFocus 04:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm okay with This edit and am stopping by just to point out that your use of "notable" in the edit summary suggests you don't know the difference between WP:NOTABILITY and WP:WEIGHT. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Any award that gets independent coverage in reliable sources is notable by Wikipedia standards. All notable awards should be mentioned. These aren't just some local town's county fair award for best looking pig or whatnot. DreamFocus 23:06, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Actually, no I was not ok with the edit. You restored without discussion. That's edit warring. I'll start the thread at talk. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
You incorrectly erased something, and I restored it, then edited it to a bullet list format, adding each entry after finding a source to reference for it. It was certainly not edit warring. Feel free to discuss it on the relevant talk page though. DreamFocus 23:20, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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I'm inviting you to take part in this discussion to detail the fate of Danielle Judovits' page as you had partook in some discussions for some other voice actors. --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Just want to say that I really appreciate your strong Keep votes on the deletion on most of the Actor pages including Catherine Taber. I don't know if Binksternet is a true Wikipedia admin or not. He/She seems to be on everybody's nerves including mine. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 00:58, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Man, this is starting to boil my blood. If only we had more users that would oppose to the removal. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 01:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
If they start deleting those pages, I'm not sure if I can continue making contributions here on Wikipedia. I wish this whole problem never happened in the first place. I also sometimes wish that Binksternet never existed, but I can't go too far. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 08:15, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
We all feel that way at times. It'll pass. Sometime articles are saved, and sometimes they are lost. It all depends on what random group show up to comment in the AFD, and the personal opinions of the closing administrator. That's how it has always been on Wikipedia, no one ever able to agree on any specific rules, it just nonstop arguing for all these years, no end in sight. DreamFocus 08:18, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey Dream Focus, just wanted to remind you that I sent an email 5 days ago detailing how to get access to BNA through The Wikipedia Library, please make sure to follow those instructions and complete the Google Form. Thank you, Sadads (talk) 16:12, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
I already did, but I went ahead and did the Google Form thing again. DreamFocus 16:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
You were mentioned on Jimbo's talk page, and going through your talk page I can quickly say that you definitely deserve another barnstar to adorn your rather oversized collection...
I wish you good luck in your Wiki-Career. Um, yes. Enjoy the barnstar! --k6ka (talk | contribs) 20:47, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey Dream Focus, I have approved your access to Wikipedia:Keesings but need you to follow the instructions in the email I sent a week ago. Sadads (talk) 14:17, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I just signed up for it. I guess it'll know my Wikipedia user name or my email and let me in. No special code in the email was given me. No email confirmation sent to me yet, I guess I just wait for that. DreamFocus 14:26, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
I was waiting for them to restore the article, as is standard when something is at deletion review. If I can't see the article, I can't really form an opinion on it. DreamFocus 15:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
An administrator has temporarily restored the page. See this version. It sounds like a great topic for an article but the results are not too impressive. EdJohnston (talk) 16:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm reading it now. Yeah, I agree, doesn't look like its worth saving, since people kill one another over other games and other things they argue about all the time. DreamFocus 16:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Instead of reverting you at the draft page again, if you could provide the actual quotes and time of videos where HL3 is mentioned, I can leave it. I can only see the sources saying it might be part of the Half-Life series, nothing else.
Kotaku "Newell calls the character's inclusion and use of sign language an "excuse to build the technology for signing" in an unspecified game."
Joystiq - they are using the video, and guessing "Valve's Gabe Newell appears"
Also the gametrailers link is 21 minutes long, a time is needed or I will just remove the entire thing.--Vaypertrail (talk) 22:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
The title of the Kotaku article is Valve Studying Sign Language For Deaf Half-Life Character. The Joystiq article's title is "Valve researching sign language for use in Half-Life 2: Episode 3", and the Destructoid article is titled "Valve's learning sign language for Half-Life 2: Episode 3". DreamFocus 04:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
You didn't answer my question, those are just headlines to grab readers. If the sources are using that video as the source, why can't you also show me where in the source it says this? Speculation is not allowed per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:SYN.--Vaypertrail (talk) 09:13, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Are you serious? Do you doubt the information in the headlines for a reliable sources? Destructoid's headline is "Valve's learning sign language for Half-Life 2: Episode 3" followed by "Valve's Gabe Newell has been moving his hands around in very fast, repetitive motions in a room full of people. By that, I of course mean that he's been practicing sign language, and is looking at how to implement it in videogames, most notably Half-Life 2: Episode 3." Secondary sources such as this are preferred to primary sources in Wikipedia. DreamFocus 10:44, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Then why does the Kotaku source say the complete opposite? If I can't see it in the source they are referencing, and neither can one of the other sources, then that trumps their own single interpretation of the video.--Vaypertrail (talk) 10:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Please reread that article carefully. The title is "Valve Studying Sign Language For Deaf Half-Life Character" with the article starting off "While Valve has been largely silent on what's happening with Half-Life 2: Episode 3, a recent focus test at the developer may point to the inclusion of a deaf character that ties into supporting character Alyx's past". Also look at the other two as well. Joystiq has the headline "Valve researching sign language for use in Half-Life 2: Episode 3" and then the article stats off "Valve's Gabe Newell appears to have recently conducted a focus group with deaf individuals in order to learn more about sign language and how it can be applied to games, notably the upcoming Half-Life 2: Episode 3." If you want, ask for more opinions on the video game wikiproject. DreamFocus 10:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll bring this up again if the article is in article space, the half-life wikia seems to cover this more accurately[12][13] where it makes no conclusion the deaf related content is for HL3, only the half-life universe.--Vaypertrail (talk)
Doesn't matter what a wikia anyone can edit and say whatever they want at, has to say about the matter. We go by what reliable sources say on Wikipedia. DreamFocus 17:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I think this maybe of interest to you I created Stinkor and Moss Man if you feel you can improve it I would appreciate it and I have contemplated creating more Masters of the Universe characters if you agree or disagree I have started a discussion at Talk:List of Masters of the Universe characters. Dwanyewest (talk) 22:02, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
I want as many voices in this debate as possible. Dwanyewest (talk) 20:16, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
[14]. It took me a while to work out what had happened. (I think this is a rare case where removing your comment was justified, but if you disagree then please restore it.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:15, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
..probably won't survive. Can I use this as a test case for uploading to your cultural phenomenon site, is it open to outside contributors? Might as well use a central place. -- GreenC 18:01, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, anyone can add whatever they want. Register a name there and I'll make you an administrator so you can import things on your own in the future. I'm importing that file now. DreamFocus 18:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
That's cool I see it saves the edit history. I'll create an account to see how import works. -- GreenC 19:14, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
special:Export is how you get something from Wikipedia, able to save the entire history if the file size isn't too massive. Sometimes the size of the page and the templates combined is too great, so I just get the latest version with all the templates, and then the full history version without the templates. http://cultural-phenomenons.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Import is where you import things at. I just made you an administrator, so you should be able to see it now. DreamFocus 19:36, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. -- GreenC 14:42, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Help me create a Request for Comment asking that Jimmy Wales step down[edit]
I want to create a request for comment with some long term members of the Article Rescue Squadron.
This request for comment would argue that the only way to reverse the negative trend of deleting other editors good faith edits would be for Jimmy Wales to step down.
Please e-mail me if you are interested. Walterruss (talk) 08:03, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
That has no possible chance of working. And most of the threatened content has been deleted over the years already, much of it finding its way to his profitable business of wikia. DreamFocus 13:56, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Very sad to see this Dream. For almost a decade you've been a talisman to the rescue squad and all those who've held true to Wikipedia's original values. I so wish I could give you a reason to return to your old activity levels, but sadly I think you're right. This project has devolved into an elitist's playground. Deletionists, serial reverters, witch-hunters, permabanners, tag bombers... These are the folks who now control the project. A few years back a many of us decided the best way to preserve our few remaining treasures was to disengage from AfD and the like, apart from a few sporadic token votes. Deprived of the chance for battle they love so much, deletionists would just move onto to others things out of boredom. This has met with some success, but it's only a holding tactic at best. As you say, no way to bring back the golden age of old. It's been a real privilege and an honor to have worked with you saving articles from destruction over the years, and I know many others feel the same. Perhaps one day with both get our enthusiasm back for this project. Until then take care my friend, and may all your best dreams come true. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Dream, you've had a great run. I've always been impressed at how many years you've kept this up. I take multi-month breaks from Wiki all the time, and each time I think to myself "Wow, DreamFocus is still at it!". You should be proud of what you've accomplished. It has been an honor working with you in the squad. In any case, I don't think the golden age is over. In fact, I would take it as a good sign that you can feel comfortable enough to step back a little. While I perhaps I may not have been observing too closely lately ever since the ARS lost its category to flag articles for rescue, I do feel that I'm seeing fewer potential gems being tossed out than there used to be, or at least, those gems being tossed out are of topics of lower potential quality. In any case, Wikipedia's net article count continues to grow every year--meaning creation still far exceeds deletions. No, the golden age isn't over. It is here. And we owe much of Wikipedia's greatness to you. —CodeHydro 15:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I've had about two interactions with you, as I don't work in the same areas as you, but I know you're a very valuable contributor that the community should appreciate. Wikipedia may be headed down the wrong path, but the way I see it, when good editors retire because of the impending "apocalypse", it isn't helping the encyclopedia, as we're giving the other side (whoever that may include) what they want. If we stay together, we can bring Wikipedia back. In the 6 months, I've seen more of my acquaintances (who were good contributors) leave/quit/retire/semi-retire than ever, (I can think of at least 4, not counting you) and it's sad. Please don't retire. We need you. --AmaryllisGardenertalk 15:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Hey! How are you? Happy New Year! Thanks for adding more examples to bad call. Do you think you could add the references to those examples? Thanks! Bananasoldier (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no need for references if it links to the main article for that information which references it there. DreamFocus 15:14, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Florence Colgate, I've reviewed some sources such as this and this. Though for a BLP, she may need to more sourcing to show lasting notability doesn't appear she became a model, but I do wonder if the AfD focused more on sources if this would pass. Valoemtalkcontrib 19:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I've noticed I generally agree with you during AfD, however, your arguments needed to focus on sources which wasn't the primary argument presented I think you might have a better chance at DRV, regardless, should have gone as NC not delete. Deletionists look only at arguments regarding sources they don't want the article so they aren't going go through search results. Individual sources must be posted. I have to go through the same thing all the time. :( Note: Actually since she didn't generate more sources since, this probably won't fly. Valoemtalkcontrib 02:58, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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If his maps are accurate and useful, what does it matter that he added the link?
The maps are accurate, of the monastery and environs, and locating Shrewsbury in England. SPAM is selling something, he is not selling anything. He is sharing information on the topic, and what I read on his site all appeared to be accurate for the main themes of the series of novels. It is simply an external link, not supporting any point in the article like a reference. Some of the books have maps in them, very helpful to the reader. I have linked copies of the maps from websites in the articles on individual books, as part of the article, to show historical accuracy in the novels, as well as make the plot clearer. I understand that you do not like the author putting up his own site for an External Link, but I might have done so had I still been working on the Cadfael articles, hunting for sources. It seems not a big deal to me, and maps are often useful additions to Wikipedia articles about historical novels / historical mysteries in my view. That is why I reverted your action. Now it is over. --Prairieplant (talk) 10:42, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
I read his contributions. His efforts in history, complete with refs, got rolled over, so it looks like he tries to contribute another way. Perhaps he needs encouragement to get involved in the articles, but lesser topics than Charlemagne and the HRE, to get used to Wikipedia. He took another path, and still gets rolled over, even on the Cadfael series. --Prairieplant (talk) 11:08, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Its a fan site and thus violates the rules. WP:FANSITE number 11. As far as the map page, it looks like a Google map picture, followed by two maps he drew showing a few buildings. DreamFocus 13:51, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Two, please be aware of these notes in WP:SPATG: "The following is a list of common misuses of the single-purpose account tag. You should under no circumstance consider anything that falls into the below categories as evidence for warranting an SPA tag. [...] Frequency of edits: A user should not be tagged as an SPA just because they only have a handful of edits." (emphasis added) Jeh (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
It says "The SPA tag may be used to visually highlight that a participant in a multi-user discussion has made few or no other types of contribution." It is common in AFDs to show that if someone's first edit to Wikipedia was in that discussion. And there is no need to sign who posted that. Kindly read Wikipedia:Single-purpose_account#Decision-making_tags. DreamFocus 03:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't know why you think there is no "need to sign"; per WP:TALK, all comments on talk pages should be signed. And why not sign it?
The text you quoted (""visually highlight") is from the article lede; as you know full well, ledes merely summarize an article and do not cover all of the details. "Kindly read Wikipedia:Single-purpose_account#Decision-making_tags" - it says "Please consult the general test and the "who not to tag" section below, in deciding whether the editor is actually an SPA." (emphasis added.) The section below is WP:SPATG, from which I quoted above. The point is that an edit history with just one entry does not provide statistically valid evidence for an account being "single-purpose"; otherwise, as it says there, every first edit would be evidence of an SPA. But clearly we have different interpretations of "under no circumstances". I'm out. Jeh (talk) 03:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Search for the part about vote stacking. This could be a sockpuppet or a friend of someone who they asked to participate. The SPA tag is often used for such occasions in AFD. DreamFocus 03:37, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that back in 2009 you commented on the talk page for Brooke Greenberg, where you said that "Immortality is something worthy of an article." [15]. With that in mind, I thought to draw your attention to this: A68 protein. I happened to notice this protein during my medical studies recently, as it is said to be proof of the existence of reincarnation, because people with Alzheimer's disease *ALWAYS* have this protein, as do *ALL* infants and neonates, and it is said to be a possible explanation for why children don't remember much when they are little and nor do people with Alzheimer's disease. This is certainly food for thought! I tried to create a big article about it but it kept being knocked back due to it being "speculation". Perhaps you have something to add to it. Immortality is always worthy of an article, and the current article just doesn't do that pursuit justice. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Just search Google news for "A68 protein" and find articles you can reference information from. Unless you can find a reliable source stating the bit about "reincarnation", no way to keep it in a Wikipedia article. DreamFocus 04:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
It's logically obvious, but, per Wikipedia's rules, being obvious and logical are not sufficient criteria for inclusion in an article. We have to wait for someone to say that in a speech. Since it is a relatively new discovery, we might be waiting a while before that happens. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 12:05, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
No, it's not as simple as that. Lincoln clearly stated, in confidence and in speeches, that he had no plans to interfere with slavery where it already existed. He supported only the measures that prevented it from spreading, starting this way as a congressman. His Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 was a clear departure from this, using war powers granted to the president to declare slavery in the rebellious states to be illegal. Furthermore, if this was his intention from the beginning, he would have done it much sooner, but it happened only as the political ramifications of the war changed. He clearly had an evolving opinion on slavery reflective of these changes.
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We have a well referenced article talking about that. Abraham Lincoln and slavery I have no desire to argue history here. DreamFocus 17:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I'm far from finished. This is a long-term project. I hope to have most of it done by the end of the day. I prefer to do it in stages - less chance of a mistake that way. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:16, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
You're relying on Sara C. Nelson as a reliable source? Ludicrous. Try to find at least someone marginally credible. Suggestions such as this should be topic-bannable offenses.jps (talk) 03:15, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Of course, any news article that disagrees with you must be so ridiculous that anyone who mentions it should be banned at once, even if its from a reliable source. There are ample sources in the article already mentioning those who state other reasons for some of the simple circles, they not all human hoaxes. DreamFocus 03:19, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
You do know that HuffPo lets anyone who wants to write for them, right? If you think HuffPo is a reliable source for subjects like this, you should not be allowed to edit Wikipedia. jps (talk) 03:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
"Huffington Post" is mentioned in 20,332 Wikipedia articles. [16] I look at the Reliable Sources noticeboard archive, and see people arguing about it at times, but no consensus on declaring it not a reliable source. Was the article by a paid staff member? I see this writer's articles referenced in seven other Wikipedia articles [17]. I don't think they publish anything from any random person. They have 850 employees. DreamFocus 03:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
There is no indication that I can find that this person is a paid staff member. Most of the content on HuffPo is written by people who post for free hoping to get exposure (and perhaps Wikipedia links). jps (talk) 03:57, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
[18] She's listed on their About Us page with other paid staff as the Traffic and Trends Editor. I don't see anywhere where they allow anyone to post at. DreamFocus 04:01, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Read the FAQs. One way HuffPo works is that they try to elevate their bloggers into careers similar to the way the WMF does it. It looks like she was also angling for a French job: [19]. Using this writer as a reliable source is like using Wikipedia as a reliable source. jps (talk) 12:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
She is a paid editor for them. And I believe if 20,332 Wikipedia articles site this as a reliable source, then it probably is, regardless of one person says. Since I wasn't trying to add anything to the article, there plenty of reliable sources there already proving some believe some crop circles were made by natural forces instead of just hoaxes, I don't see any reason to be having this conversation to begin with. Also I erased my post on that talk page two minutes after I made it [20], because I decided I didn't want to have a pointless discussion like this, and then after it was erased, you still felt the need to come here and argue with me about part of it, and post nonsense on the Fringe theories noticeboard about it as well. [21]DreamFocus 14:03, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
There simply are not any high-quality sources which identify crop circles as being caused by natural forces. Using HuffPo as a go-to is just indicative of the low-quality sourcing that we have for this claim. jps (talk) 18:17, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Why are you still talking about this here? Discuss it on the talk page of the crop circle article. DreamFocus 18:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I lost interest in the show after a few episodes and never bothered reading the books. I just created that article since I noticed there wasn't one yet, despite the first book being a bestseller. DreamFocus 12:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello Dream Focus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Penetration Angst, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: not a valid speedy criterion, and A7 doesn't apply to films. Consider PROD or AfD. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 18:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I switched it to Prod. DreamFocus 19:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I found one or two reviews, including one which awarded it the title Trashfilm des Monats Juli, but I agree it doesn't look like meeting NFILM. JohnCD (talk) 19:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
As are you and the various IP addresses you use to vandalize articles. Seriously kid, get a life, and get over yourself. This is just plain pathetic. DreamFocus 00:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Dream Focus, I think you're not allowed to disrupt the free flowing of creativity. It stifles the youngens, you know. Drmies (talk) 22:19, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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You undid your speedy deletion noting your mistake that that book just copied information from Wikipedia[22], but you left this pointless thing on my talk page. Also I didn't create the information in that article, just split off information from another one, and it apparently then got renamed and more information added, not sure, and don't really care. DreamFocus 15:58, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
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That was back in 12 October 2009. I'm not really interested in bus routes these days. DreamFocus 13:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, to avoid canvassing I've tried to contact equal numbers of people who voted on both sides; unfortunately meaning that I've had to dig up quite old discussions in some cases. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:18, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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Dear DreamFocus: in this edit, you are obviously making a charge at some editors of POV editing--even of censorship, "whitewashing". Please refrain from using such terminology: it violates AGF and is needlessly inflammatory. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
They can accuse people of adding in information to "victim blame" someone, but I can't point out they are clearly just trying to keep it out to whitewash it, by keeping relevant information out such as the criminal convictions the person had involving a gun and shooting someone in the past, etc? Whitewashing (censorship) is clearly going on here. DreamFocus 18:08, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
You can defend yourself by doubling down on the accusation, but it's only going to hurt you in the polls. Drmies (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Stop pestering me with your nonsense. They were clearly trying to whitewash the article, which happens every single time one of these articles is made. To eliminate clearly valid encyclopedic information, because you fear it might make people think negatively about the person, is ridiculously bias and should not be tolerated. DreamFocus 20:20, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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Sorry about the Punisher thing. That was pretty immature of me, I've been really frustrated recently by all the fans who don't read recent comics coming in being "not my Punisher" about the fact that the mainstream 616 version of him is now a Iraq veteran. Sorry.★Trekker (talk) 16:09, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I have read your article that you left for me. As the Shinma on the Manga Wiki are considered MOTD, they would go well in the same category as the monsters from Sailor Moon, Tokyo Mew Mew, and any other anime that uses MOTD. --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
I looked it up, but all I see for MOTD is message of the day. Does it have another meaning? Anyway, once you get administrative rights you can easily do full history imports of any other article threaten for deletion, or just being replaced by a redirect. DreamFocus 19:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
In some projects, it means "Monster of the Day." --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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You said you doubted that any of the stuff 2A02:C7D:4500:2200:2550:8859:C74:8A7F added is true, so I thought I'd let you know that I know the stuff about Pocket Raceris true. Not that the section was needed though, as it was already mentioned. Adam9007 (talk) 00:06, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Your edits of over 3 years ago need to reverted. First of all, Tv.com is a legitimate external link for television episodes. They shouldn't have been removed. Some of the other links to scifi.com and a Outer limits page were fine.
But your links to Hulu.com aren't per both WP:ELNO and WP:ELREG.
ELNO says- "Sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content, unless the site itself is the subject of the article, or the link is a convenience link to a citation.[5] See § Sites requiring registration." Hulu isn't the site itself.
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So the Hulu links are all wrong and the tv.com links need to be restored....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
The Hulu links at the time were the only place you could legally watch it, and no payment was necessary to watch them back then. The links to the scifi page were all dead links. I see here [23] you removed my hulu link to add a link to a TV.com page that just shows links to Hulu. [24] Unnecessary middleman. DreamFocus 17:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
It's not the same. We're not linking to Hulu. It is just that tv.com has a hulu link....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I don't see how the TV.com links give any additional information not in the article. So what's the point of having them there? DreamFocus 18:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Tv.com is like Imdb. They both contain a list of cast and crew, a brief synopsis of the episode, and information like it first aired. In the case of Star Trek episodes with an article, the article links to both tv.com and imdb pages for that episode....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:28, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello. I have undone your changes on the “Army Men: RTS” page. Tan units is not tank units. It is a fictional Tan Republic's army units. Type “Army Men Tan Republic” into Google for more info. Thanks. Disket01 (talk) 18:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Whoops. I reverted an IP address who changed it from tank to tan, while over there erasing spam. DreamFocus 19:02, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
I've seen him in AFDS before where everyone else said keep and tried to explain things to him, and he would not stop arguing with every single person, refusing to listen. DreamFocus 05:41, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
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Sorry, I've done so many revdels recently relating to hiding revisions with copyright violations in them that I hit the button to hide the edit contents rather than the edit summary on those two. They're gone now. Hut 8.5 20:09, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, that one's gone too now. Hut 8.5 20:28, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I know you and Hijiri88 also seem to be having content issues in addition to the copyright issues, so I want to leave a note personally without the clutter of questions or the back and forth with another editor. You are clearly trying to paraphrase, that is good. The issue is that you are engaging in what we call close paraphrasing, which constitutes a violation of our copyright policy, even in very short amounts. You must right everything in your own words, full stop. If paraphrasing is too difficult, try to summarize. Any content that is a copyright violation must be hidden from the archives via revision deletion. Please also be very careful going forward with this.
I know you are trying, but repeated copyright violations lead to blocks, and most copyright blocks are indefinite (not infinite) until we can work out a plan with the user on how they can avoid the issues in the future (and I'm not saying I'm going to block you now, I just want you to be aware of the situation going forward). I'll take a closer look, but I think that at this point, there is enough to open a WP:CCI to try to see if there are anything in older articles that has been missed over the years. Please be very careful going forward not to lift text from online sources and only superficially change it. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:23, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
News sources paraphrase what politicians say all the time, but whatever. Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing#When_is_close_paraphrasing_permitted? I was told instead of just quoting someone it best to paraphrase, but apparently its not always possible, so some prefer just to have a lot of quotes in article instead. Do you agree with his edits to my work at [25]? As for the Mottainai Grandma article, the hidden edits have the same information as the current form, there not much difference. So I have no idea why you just hid those edits away. I don't see any way to rewrite such brief simple information. DreamFocus 16:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Paraphrasing is allowed, the question is if it is close paraphrasing and whether or not there are legitimate other ways to say something. The problem occurs when entire clauses of sentences match both in wording, order, and grammar. The issue on Mottainai Grandma was a very simple fix, we just changed a word and eliminated a few on the end: it had the same meaning, but it didn't copy from the text where it didn't need to. I do agree that at least some of his changes to Immigration Street were needed in terms of copyright, and as a whole, I think they pulled the article in line with our copyright policy.In terms of quotes, yes, they should be limited, but if you can't say what you are going to say without directly quoting, it is better to have a quote than to present the information as your own thoughts. I hope this has been helpful. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:43, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I did not copy one line of text word for word for Mottainai Grandma. I reworded all of it. I hope you checked instead of just listening to him. The current version is the same as the old, other than the first sentence slightly changed. I see no reason to block the history. DreamFocus 16:46, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
The source text says The picture book is being published as part of the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA)'s efforts in India. You said [...] it was released in Hindi and English translation in New Delhi, India, as part of the Japan International Cooperation Agency efforts in India. That last clause is a pretty unique grammatical construction, as the only difference is that you removed the acronym. This is an issue because you copied 58% of the source text's sentence and it accounted for 40% of the sentence in question. There are some things that you cannot restate in your own words (I gave you an example from my own content work the other day), but this was something where it was very easy to fix so as not to be a close paraphrase. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:02, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I tried thinking of a way to word it, and that's the best I could come up with. Dropping off the last three words make all the difference I suppose. I still see no reason to block the history of the article for something so minor. DreamFocus 17:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Its a precautionary principle: we certify to our readers that all text can be freely used here, even for commercial purposes, under the CC BY-SA 3.0 licnese. I've seen text revdel'd by admins other than myself for less on much larger pages. The big thing is to remember to change the wording and if possible change the structure and grammar of a sentence. Also, thank you for being so open about this. I really appreciate it . TonyBallioni (talk) 17:15, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm renaming the categories to bring them in line with the film score categories ("Films scored by John Williams," etc.), and for clarity—video games aren't composed, the music and scores for the games are composed. Trivialist (talk) 17:10, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
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Nonsense. I had a legitimate reason given both times I reverted the same person. He posted on your talk page asking you to edit war on his behalf. [26]DreamFocus 19:36, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I noticed you reverted by addition of a disambiguation note for Crown on Super Mario Bros, commenting that it is in the reference. I have looked at the ref but I'm no clearer if this should be Crown (headgear), Crown (heraldry) or what.— Rodtalk 21:12, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
I thought that was a reference needed tag. Should've read better. Anyway, crown headgear because he isn't a king. DreamFocus 21:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
To put this in a more sensible way, please look at what you're reverting back in (e.g., at Chris Núñez), even if you're dealing with a sock. --NeilNtalk to me 17:24, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
If you're not able to do that, don't make the edit. --John (talk) 17:32, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Ah, someone erased the two references for that information in a previous edit. The Hollywood Reporter has 862 Wikipedia articles referencing it and seems like a reliable source for this information about the lawsuit. Not sure about TMZ. I see Googling their names gives more results in news media than the Google news search does. [27] Plenty of mention of the lawsuit, but hasn't gone to court yet so I guess doesn't need to be in there. DreamFocus 17:36, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Did you disagree with this close as no consensus? Valoemtalkcontrib 20:29, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I thought KEEP was fine. Those who wanted it merged could've just discussed the merge discussion I started. No valid reason given to delete. I didn't read through the rules to see who can undo an administrator or if administrators can reopen a discussion like that. I think he should've just left it be. Since KEEP and NO CONSCIOUS are basically the same, there was no reason for anyone to even argue about that. DreamFocus 20:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
In normal cases yes, but this editor is not acting in good faith when it comes to me see here. Valoemtalkcontrib 20:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
You're an experienced editor. I'm disappointed that you appear not to be familiar with WP:TPO, which states:
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Your heading of that section goes beyond any useful description of its topic to present a POV and disparaging slant on the section topic. Please put a more neutral, descriptive, and succinct header on the section -- I don't care whether it's the one I used or an even better one of your own choosing. Your revert was disruptive. Thanks SPECIFICOtalk 14:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Nonsense. My heading was proper, since that is what is going on. When people insist on talking about someone's children and saying nice things about them, its done to play with your emotions. DreamFocus 17:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello — I've pulled the comments from the talk page after attempting to bring them in line. The issue here is that the user's addition contains a big mishmash of markup that isn't easily corrected. I'll give it another try, but veteran users should be well aware that talk page text needs to be easy to follow and approach. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:32, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
After some light formatting to clarify who said what and where on the talk page, I've restored the comments. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
You did not have a valid reason to erase their post. This is unacceptable [28] as is [29]. DreamFocus 20:44, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
That doesn't excuse attempting to erase everything to begin with. I don't think anyone had trouble following the conversation, not that that would be a valid reason for removing someone's posts. DreamFocus 20:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Formatting is a gray area on the platform. It wasn't clear where the post began and ended. Poor formatting isn't acceptable. We're all expected to format our responses in a legible and appropriate manner. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:52, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
"Fixing format errors" is in the list of examples. Now that the text is clearly delineated as a response with an indent. :bloodofox: (talk) 21:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
You didn't fix it, you erased it entirely until I reverted you, then you did it again, then went back and fixed it afterwards, I assume because you realized you aren't allowed to erase someone's post like that. You screwed up, stop arguing about it. DreamFocus 21:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I intended to simply remove the text and request the user to delineate that it was a response, but figured I'd be courteous. :bloodofox: (talk) 21:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Remove as in deleted? DreamFocus 21:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Best never delete because of format.....correction yes. If your note able to fix the foramte issue leave it to others please. Our rule is ...."material difficult to read. In this case, restrict the edits to formatting changes only and preserve the content as much as possible. "
The List of YouTubers is being nominated for deletion again. I don't know why. It's been nominated so many damn times. Take a look here. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 00:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Its a ridiculously bad nomination. They really should have something people have to click on before nominating something, a checklist to eliminate the most pointless nominations. DreamFocus 03:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Don't really care. My only edit there was when I was undoing a vandal that was erasing large chunks of information from various articles. No sense arguing with fan boys nonstop. If the media covers a famous person being arrested for something its usually in their article though. DreamFocus 18:21, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Re [30]: FYI, "YouTube" can be cited "as a reliable source" just fine. It depends on the context. Oftentimes, as appeared to be the case here, the "YouTube video" being linked is a bootleg copy of some copyrighted material, in which case we are not allowed link per WP:ELNEVER, but that has nothing to do with the reliability of the source: citing, say, a National Geographic documentary as a source that you only know from a bootleg YouTube upload is still, normally, fine, as long as you don't link it. (Assuming the documentary is legally available somewhere.) The lead of our Saint Peter article has cited a YouTube video for years. Note that I'm not saying you were wrong to remove that particular piece of text (you weren't) or that that particular YouTube video was a reliable source (it wasn't), just that your edit summary appeared to indicate you do not understand the policy. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:18, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Still stalking me? Have no life at all do you, just obsessed with someone who dared disagree with you, and got to follow them around bothering them nonstop. Pathetic really. I know YouTube can be used at times, I have told people examples at times, but I didn't feel like explaining everything in detail in that edit summary since it doesn't matter in this case. And your edit summary for your deletion prod is total bullshit [31], you just determined to repeat the same bullshit lies every chance you get. I don't want you posting on my talk page trying to pick a fight every chance you get. Go find someone else to pester. DreamFocus 23:29, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Why did you remove the Facebook links to Rick' s pages? He wants them added. Who are you? Retrokimmer (talk) 09:27, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
If the real person has a Facebook account it'll have a check by his name to confirm its really him. The links you added were to someone just trying to get money, claiming it was to help someone, but probably just a scam. These sorts of things are quite common. DreamFocus 14:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
An article you recently created, Puzzle Puppers, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the confirms on the Articles for Creation template atop the page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:48, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
It has three reliable sources giving significant coverage in their reviews for it so passes WP:GNG just fine. Articles start off small and grow over time as more contribute to them. How Wikipedia works. DreamFocus 11:44, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Since you didn't give a valid reason to move it to draft space, I have reverted you. DreamFocus 12:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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To all those who actually click a link offered and read through the entire thing, instead of just glancing at some random things taken out of context and a distorted description of them, thank you. The system only works if people do that. DreamFocus 22:27, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
I read it and you're still wrong. In order for the system to work you need to be sanctioned. --Tarage (talk) 22:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
I honestly didn't think anyone would be offended by that. Anyway, what about him admitting he ignored an administrator who told him not to follow my contribution? [33] I really would like a no-interaction thing passed to just not have to deal with him ever again. DreamFocus 23:07, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
You could just do it yourself. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you to interact with him. You could just... not. --Tarage (talk) 06:30, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
He keeps showing up at the Article Rescue Squadron to argue with me about everything. Nonsense about how me using capital letters when I said an article ended in a KEEP was somehow - ack. [34] There is where you can read that example, he then drafting a proposal on the talk page to stop me from using capital letters. If he'd just avoid the Wikiproject and stop following me to AFDs and arguing nonsense, such as the most recent example at [35], then we'd not see each other at all. DreamFocus 06:38, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
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Stay away from Hijiri88, and abandon your combative behavior. The next block for this type of disruptive behavior will be much longer. Cullen328Let's discuss it 05:34, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
So after the ANI he starts talking about me at various talk pages, refusing to stop, and I respond, so I get blocked? [36] I never said anything to him except when he mentioned me first. DreamFocus 05:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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He has admitted in the past he is looking through my contributions, and isn't going to stop. An administrator told him to stop that, he did it anyway, so I did mention that there, then this starts up again. Why can't this other user leave me alone? He can say whatever he wants about me, but I can't respond? DreamFocus 06:24, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Only you and you alone are responsible for your own behavior. Leave Hijiri88 alone. It is that simple. Cullen328Let's discuss it 06:33, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Can you just give me one diff to show what I actually said that is worthy of a block? Not what he claims I said, but what I actually said? DreamFocus 06:41, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
You came to my fucking talk page for no god damn reason. You weren't pinged. You had no reason to be following my talk page. The ONLY reason you even knew about it was because you were VERY CLEARLY following his edits. Stop being stupid. --Tarage (talk) 07:06, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
I mean literally, one section up, I said, and I quote: "You could just do it yourself. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you to interact with him. You could just... not." You seem absolutely incapable of not commenting every place he does, which is why you are blocked. Next time he says something about you, ignore it. Go about your business. If he keeps doing it, talk to an admin PRIVATELY. And for god's sake stop watching his edits. Period. --Tarage (talk) 07:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
He follows my edits constantly, as in the examples I provided at User_talk:TonyBallioni#Hijiri88_violated_your_instructions(archived) clearly prove. Why is he allowed to follow me around and comment and criticize everything I do, but I'm not suppose to keep watch of him talking about me all over the place? If someone wouldn't stop talking about you everywhere, wouldn't you check their contributions and respond? DreamFocus 07:41, 23 June 2018 (UTC
No. You have used up the community's good will in this matter. Leave Hijiri88 alone!Cullen328Let's discuss it 08:14, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
(Please pardon me if I am butting in but) Dream Focus has not used up my goodwill. I don't know if my opinion counts for anything here, but for what it is worth, I think an unblock is in order. I do not think that Dream Focus has done anything to merit a block. James500 (talk) 21:47, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Dream, maybe I can help make sense of this. As usual, you're right about most of this. Considering the nature of the contention between yourself and H, it's only natural you've been checking his edits to see if he's talking about you. Most others would do the same. An admin advised H he should disengage, but he's still been talking about you, and some of his recent edits could be seen as misrepresentation. It's not as harmful as it might first appear - a little unchallenged criticism is not going to harm the high regard many hold you in. But still, on the face of it, there was nothing wrong with you objecting to it.
Here's the thing though - some of the earlier interaction that H reported on the ANI does show he was treated in a very un-collegial way. In the past, critics of the ARS has said things 100x more unreasonable or harmful to the project, but they didn't receive anywhere near the same level of unfriendly treatment. It's some of the older WP:NPA violations that have really done the damage, not any of your edits in the last two or three days. This I think is why Cullen is calling it more or less right on community goodwill. It may seem ridiculous that H can talk about you all over the shop, and you're not supposed to respond, but that's just the way it is. It won't last for ever of course - if anyone keeps talking about you for too long, they'll be the one's who exhaust the community's good will. I can explain all this with specific diffs if it would help - but it would have to be by email as it wouldn't help you for me to post it here. Only posting this publicly as you didn't reply to my email from a few days back, not even sure if you saw it.
I hope that makes sense Dream. If not, it's much better to email me, and probably not post again until after the block, when it would be fine for you to delete all this. FeydHuxtable (talk) 09:50, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
And of course, the moment I come back, he follows me to the first article I edited to edit it also. [37] So anywhere I go on Wikipedia I'll have him following me around. DreamFocus 22:30, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
The next time one of your countless obsessive disputes with Hijiri88 erupts on to the noticeboards, I will block you for a very lengthy period of time. The community is completely fed up with your disruptive behavior. Consider this a formal warning, and adjust your behavior accordingly. I have given the other editor a very similar warning. Please take my warning seriously. Cullen328Let's discuss it 04:07, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I think it would be best to simply do the interaction ban thing where we can't interact with each other at all. If you just say noticeboards, that means he can start up again elsewhere. DreamFocus 05:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Let me expand my warning, then, since my first iteration was not adequate to deter you. This warning applies to any controversy you involve yourself with regarding that other editor anywhere on Wikipedia. Ignore them as if they did not exist. If they misbehave in any way, let others deal with it. There will be no further warnings from me. Only lengthy blocks for you. Cullen328Let's discuss it 07:33, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Dream was already obviously seeking to avoid interaction with Hijiri88. If however H does something like further edit Dream's user or talk page, or indeed articles that previously only Dream has edited, then Dream is still entitled to respond. There was no need for your rediculous warnings here Cullen. FeydHuxtable (talk) 07:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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Your battleground mentality regarding Hijiri88 has become disruptive behavior. Please abandon that combative behavior before you return to editing. Cullen328Let's discuss it 03:53, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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@Cullen328: I'm happy to unblock, as long as Dream Focus takes the following advice - Do not talk to or about Hijiri 88 anywhere on Wikipedia. Don't bring him up in conversation, don't post about him on any noticeboard or talk page. If Hijiri 88 comes to your talk causing hassle, there are plenty of admins looking at this issue who can deal with it. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 16:02, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Ritchie333, I have no objection as long as Dream Focus accepts your advice without wikilawyering. Cullen328Let's discuss it 17:07, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
I've unblocked - I think that will be the easiest option. It's not like the conditions are up for discussion or argument. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 17:12, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
That is fine with me as long as the disruption stops. Cullen328Let's discuss it 17:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) - DF, You are digging yourself a very deep hole right now, The diffs all happened yesterday - Today is another day, I would genuinely suggest you DROPTHESTICK here and now otherwise carrying this on will seriously see you blocked for a lot longer than 48 hours, If H says something about you an admin will obviously notice and act accordingly. –Davey2010Talk 19:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
After the first ANI ended he went about talking about me on various talk pages and following my contributions about. Two weeks ago he tried to erase part of my user page, I reverted him, it went to ANI, and he was told not to do that. He mentions me yesterday on a talk page and follows me to an article talk page to argue with me, I report this, and then I get blocked. So apparently when he says or does something, he can get away with no punishment, no specific restrictions for him not to do it again, and if I report it then I get punished. Why not just tell him to leave me alone? I did not respond to him this time around, I just reported it to an administrator as I thought I was suppose to do in this situation. DreamFocus 19:46, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Knock off the wikilawyering and adjust your own behavior. Blocks are not punishment. The other editor backed off and you doubled down. I blocked you to stop the ongoing disruption. Do not resume the disruption, or the result should be obvious to you. Cullen328Let's discuss it 19:54, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
The reply at ANI was completely the wrong thing to say, in my view. I would have apologised for causing disruption, expressed empathy for the other side, and agreed to drop it. Consequently, you are blocked for a month, based on the emerging consensus at ANI. I think there is also consensus that after your block, if you mention H88 anywhere in any shape or form, the next block will be indefinite. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 15:36, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
You ask me to comment there, then block me for doing so. He can continue to follow me around and harass me, saying and doing whatever he wants, but if I complain at all I get punished. DreamFocus 15:38, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Note that the "emerging consensus at ANI" is ridiculous, since you didn't leave it open long enough for anyone to respond to what I had to say, and not everyone agreed to block me. Kind of rigging the results aren't you? Why let others have time to respond? DreamFocus 15:47, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to see this Dream. It's up to you old friend - but I would strongly advise you don't post any more for a short while. If you do there is a risk it will backfire on you. I'm concerned that Richie may not have handled this in the best way, and we'll see where we are after this has been discussed. FeydHuxtable (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
He closed the discussion, so nowhere else to discuss it. Administrators apparently have the power to stop anyone from posting a simple question on their own talk page, or mentioning something relevant in an ANI they started even. Makes all discussions about it rather difficult. DreamFocus 16:15, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi DF, If he follows you and or harasses you in any way, shape or form he will be blocked and he knows that, Personally I felt my !vote alone was more or less a pile on and imho that's how I believe that thread went which was probably why it was closed,
Anyway take a month away, Enjoy your favourite hobbies and then come back with a fresh mind - Sometimes taking a month away does you the world of good :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:09, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
He won't be punished since he wasn't any of the previous times. Look at the sections above this one to see about that. DreamFocus 16:15, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
He will, Now that it's gone to ANI twice and now there's a few more admins watching any issues would be dealt with, As I said take a months break and enjoy your favourite hobbies, Take care, –Davey2010Talk 16:19, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I just got blocked for reporting him. I previously reported him User_talk:TonyBallioni#Hijiri88_violated_your_instructions(archived) and was blocked for 36 hours. And I'm not allowed to mention him anywhere at all so reporting him again is a bit of a problem. He can do whatever he wants, then pretend he is sorry and play innocent no matter how many times he gets caught, and I can't even complain without being blocked. DreamFocus 16:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
User:Dream Focus, sorry to see this. We've done good work together in the past. I think the issue here is basically no one has the time or energy to deal with two adults arguing all the time so it's easier to just block it out and move on to other problems. Trust that if H behaves badly enough, long enough, he will get his due. It's out of your hands now, every post you make causes boomerang. I guess if you can't handle H's behavior (ie. ignore him) then you can't handle being on Wikipedia; I hope that is not true. We all have run-ins with difficult people. I had one notorious follow me around for over 3 years, voting contrary to my every consensus vote, hyper-tagging articles I wrote with inline and top hat complaints, reverts, nasty snide remarks etc.. it was hellish but kept in check by ignoring the baits. IMO an old-shool unblockable playing the long-game is unwinnable, but in the mean time we need your continued support for ARS. -- GreenC 16:38, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
User:Dream Focus, as you are still talking about Hijiri 88, even after your latest block for refusing to stop talking about him, I have revoked your ability to edit this talk page for the duration of this block. When you finally accept what you need to do, please see WP:UTRS to seek its restoration. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
User:Dream Focus, you need to SHUT UP about Hijiri88, totally and completely, and not utter another word about them while this sanction is in force. NOT ONE WORD! NOT ANYWHERE! I know you are a constructive contributor to Wikipedia, and I'd love to see this block end as quickly as possible with you back to doing what you do best. But right now, you need to simply shut up, and I suggest the best way to do that is to switch off your computer and spend at least a few days away from Wikipedia. If you can come to a decision to accept your sanction and genuinely stop commenting on Hijiri88 (anywhere and everywhere), you are welcome to email me - and if I am convinced by your sincerity, I will restore your ability to edit this page. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Per your ANI statement of: ""Ignore them as if they did not exist. If they misbehave in any way, let others deal with it.". So I did report him to that administrator." Right there is your problem. When someone says "ignore them as if they don't exist", that means don't ever EVER mention them again. Period. "If they miss behave in any way, let others deal with it" does NOT mean that YOU report their behavior. It means SOMEONE ELSE WILL. It's really not that hard to understand. --Tarage (talk) 18:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
You say "It means SOMEONE ELSE WILL" but nobody did. Peter James (talk) 22:48, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Well, just just the rub isn't it. You see; in DF's position, by now, it has ceased to be about what other people do (or do not do). It's about them and what they do—and more to the point, don't do. No-one has a right to reply, a right to vengeance or a right to justice. And if DF repeats and acknowledges that in an unblock request: they'll probably might be unblocked. But it will mean literally letting someone get eventually "caught", and not being in at the "kill" when they are. Or aren't, of course. That's the point here. DF knows this, and he can do this. It just needs consideratio. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 23:05, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
So no one has a right to not be harassed? Peter James (talk) 23:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
So you didn't read a single word Serial Number 54129 wrote?
You say "It means SOMEONE ELSE WILL" but nobody did
That should have been a clue. Also, if it was so egregious, why didn't you? --Calton | Talk 00:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Then report it instead of bitching about fairness. At this point it should be abundantly clear that DF should not say ANYTHING related to the issue, and since you're carrying a sad little flame for them, you can be their guardian angel instead. How's that sound? You know, doing something instead of whining. --Tarage (talk) 01:30, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps it would be a good idea if this matter was laid to rest so things can simmer down for a while. Just a thought. AryaTargaryen (talk) 03:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)AryaTargaryen
In response to your email request that you be permitted to remove material from this talk page, along with your promise not to repeat the actions that got your talk page access removed, I have restored your ability to edit here. Remember, you know what not to do! Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:45, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
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The AFD will close before my block ends. Otherwise I'd be there to point out it clearly passes the general notability guidelines. DreamFocus 23:48, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I am still retired so please don't post on my talk page unless it actually has something to do with me. Also don't ping me if you know there is an interaction ban that keeps me from responding, and kindly don't accuse me or others of something ridiculous and insulting without any evidence to back it up. DreamFocus 22:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Note that I have no idea who the IP that posted on my talk page was, and it certainly wasn't me since if I was trying to hide behind an IP I wouldn't post on my own talk page. When I got an email saying someone had posted on my talk page, I came here and reverted them and asked them not to do that. [40] Their sentence structure seems to be of someone who is not a native English speaker, and they don't use Firefox browser like I do or all their typos and spelling errors would be highlighted and they could've fixed it before posting.
After I had reverted it, I end up with a ping from someone who watches my talk page for whatever reason, who read it in the history of the page, and decides to accuse me and many others he has argued with in the past of being possible trolls. I find that rather offensive and posted so here. I check and see his response, and its still there, along with some statement I feel the need to clarify.
I retired from Wikipedia to get away from having to deal with this person. Once he was blocked, I went to the Article Rescue Squadron as I have been active with that for many years now, and edited other things on Wikipedia for awhile as well. Once he talked his way out of his ban, I retired from Wikipedia again, since I'm under IBAN restriction where I can not participate in the ARS wikiproject if he is able to post there. That was back in August. Three months later I end up editing again, on my talk page only, to revert the IP posting here and assumed that'd be the end of it, but alas, dragged into his nonsense yet again somehow.
I had assumed with me gone he'd stop talking about me. I would not have noticed if he hadn't pinged me. I checked now to see if he started his previous patterns, and I see this: [41] I find it ridiculous that someone can accuse me of being a troll, despite there no possible reason that could be me, and complain someone is hounding him despite him admitting in the past to following me around for months commenting on every little thing, that irritating me to no end. And of course here [42] he makes the accusation again. So once more he can say any nonsense he wants about me, and I am not allowed to respond where he is saying it because of the one sided IBAN in effect. Ridiculous. DreamFocus 03:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
And its still going I see. [43] And also at [44]. So I must once again defend myself from these slanderous attacks against my person. In my long time period on Wikipedia, I have never done this no matter who I was arguing with and how irritating they were. Look at the post made by this person. [45] Broken English, no spellchecker, not the type of thing I'd write.
He claims he thinks its me because the person called him a "self-proclaimed japanese expert" and links to where I once said "Odd that the Prime Minister of that nation, various news sources in that country, and a bestselling writer from there all say the word is a real thing, but a couple of Wikipedia editors who claim to experts on Japanese insist it isn't". [46]. I believe he argued recently with someone else who said that, but can't find it. Hijiri88 previously argued with someone about Japanese articles, claiming it was his "area of interest/expertise", [47] and that person is now banned, and apparently sent him an unwanted email recently. [48] I searched for Hijiri's name and the word "expert" and found that. So maybe its him. I also see at [49] Necrothesp did tell him Ah, the arrogance of the self-proclaimed "expert", mocking anyone he thinks is less knowledgeable than himself.. Probably more instances out there, and it could just be someone who read something, or just used the same words others had.
The post also accuses him of "Anti-semitism". I haven't seen any post of his mentioning Jews, but apparently he got in an argument somewhere with someone about something. If anyone got blocked for that, and is in Malaysia, which is where the IP address used is from, I Googled it and saw that, then maybe that'll help you find out who it is.
The last person to post something like this on my talk page was blocked for being a sockpuppet of User:Jenulot [50], he posting a rant against Hijiri88 also here, and I reverted it. Not sure if a trace would show they came from the same nation or not. It could be either of them or a lot of other people. I don't know how many banned users he has been in conflict with in the past have resulted so sockpuppetry in the past, but it is probably one of those people, and if anyone actually cares to do a IP trace on them and their known socks, they'll be able to determine who is doing this. It certainly isn't me, and I find it revolting someone can accuse me of something in places and I can't respond to them do to a one sided interaction ban. I got an email about the post and immediately reverted it, this happening 14 minutes after it was made on my talk page. Whoever it is, please take your conflict elsewhere, I don't want to be bothered with this. I have other things to do in my life other than Wikipedia these days. DreamFocus 14:40, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I just noticed the person posting here pinged a number of people, including me. Why were those names chosen? Did he argue with all of them? I honestly don't see the point in this. Since as soon as I got the email someone posted on my talk page, and instantly reverted it, no one had time to see it, nor would anyone even hear about it unless some obsessed editor kept following my talk page and every action I do and decided to look at the history and then comment on it. Seriously, stop mentioning my name, and just leave me be. This is ridiculous. DreamFocus 19:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I retired to get away from a certain person following my contributions constantly to find something to criticize, talking negatively about me every chance they got all over the place, and arguing nonstop with me. Since they aren't around for awhile I can edit again peacefully. DreamFocus 11:12, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Please also note that your signature does not currently contain a link to your talk page, only your user page. In case you want to correct that. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I have a question about the two way interaction ban. You said "staking a claim" in the closing statement. I have been an active member of the Article Rescue Squadron for years now. I do read and try to participate in every article tagged for rescue on the the rescue list. Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron_–_Rescue_list If he goes to one of these deletion discussions and posts before I do, does that mean I can't post there even if we don't mention each other or respond to what the other says? DreamFocus 14:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't have a link to my talk page since there wasn't any room left in my signature, all the code used for the colors in my name. Also I'm going to post your name Ivanvector so you get a ping to know I asked a question. DreamFocus 14:30, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I responded on my talk page where you asked the same question. If you want to ping an editor you need to use one of the notification templates, such as {{ul}} or {{yo}} or {{ping}}, and you must sign the edit where you post the template. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:57, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for reporting the problems with Jade Love Kids Foundation. In the future, it's best to handle situations like that by making a request following the instructions at Wikipedia:Oversight.
Also, I'm not sure how involved you've been with this and related articles, but there appears to be some larger problems. I don't know when I'll have time to look closely, but wanted to let you know in case you're already looking. --Ronz (talk) 18:17, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
It's not worth getting into an edit war over something this basic, but the cite for the definition is to the 2008 printed edition of the Oxford dictionary, and it is quite possible and not surprising that the 2019 online edition may vary from an older print edition. I don't have ready access to the 2008 edition, but unless you do and can verify that an editor "made up the definition, you should assume in good faith that they correctly stated what the Oxford 2008 edition said. wbm1058 (talk) 11:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm thinking the online version is more updated than the 11 year old print version. And I honestly doubt anyone has ever used multiplayer game for anything other than a video game, so redirecting it to where they talk about games with multiple players, which are most of those listed, is ridiculous. Board games aren't called "multiplayer" anywhere on their box descriptions, nor any of the rest listed. Multiple players is never turned into multiplayer except when referring to video games, so the redirect should go there. DreamFocus 16:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
While I sympathize with Dreamfocus on wanting to change Multiplayer game, it was only recently merged and an RFD just last month was to keep it's current target and keep it merged. The RFD that Wbm1058 recently opened did not change this nor was that link re-discussed by any of the participants. Note that multiplayer game is not linked to by any video game articles at this time (I fixed most of them some time ago). -- ferret (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
BGG (the IMDB of board games) lists 5,000 board games with rules for solo or are solo-only [51] but I suspect the search is maxed as it stops at an even number of 5,000. It is true video games are way more popular than board games (like movies are to novels) but at least in the world of board games solo is popular. There are also board gamers who play multi-player games solo but that is a finer distinction (though more common than one might suspect). There are also solo card games, etc.. -- GreenC 17:03, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
I wasn't clear. I said: Multiple players is never turned into multiplayer except when referring to video games. Do the boxes on board games or elsewhere say multiplayer or multiple players? Just checked though, and these days some do in fact use multiplayer when talking about other things. Times have changed. But still overwhelmingly anyone searching Wikipedia for multiplayer game would be looking for multiplayer video game. DreamFocus 17:10, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Difficult case! Merits either way. Pragmatically, the {{Redirect}} top hat to the video game page addresses popularity while primary redirect to a general page addresses disambiguation. -- GreenC 17:26, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
I saw that earlier and was wondering the same thing. Makes no sense at all. You'd have to ask the administrator who did it. DreamFocus 02:42, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
grrrr: it appears we will keep voting until the desired result is achieved. This is clearly not Wikipedia's policy. Lubbad85 (talk) 03:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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The last time I edited that article [52] was 21 February 2019. My edit summary for removing the pointless poll was (A poll of only 788 people in a nation of over 300 million people done by a newspaper that hates Trump is not really relevant here. Why 788? Did they keep polling until they got the percentage they were looking for then stop?). It is not vandalism to remove nonsense. You can find a poll anywhere to support what you personally want to believe is true, and just as easily find another news source with a poll that says the opposite. No reason to have that in the article. DreamFocus 13:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
With so many other edits to that article since I made mine, why did you suddenly come here and post a ridiculously inappropriate template? Your block log says you were blocked before for sockpuppets [53]. The last edit I made was asking Special:Contributions/Lotusbloom if they had other accounts. Are you socking again? DreamFocus 13:50, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Your edit here: [54] broke two refs (the Bellingcat and Heavy refs) as you can see in the References section for that revision. I've copied the relevant ref info from that older revision and added them back.
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Hello, I have had to suppress part of your message at User talk:Alex Shih, as the link you posted was a violation of WP:OUTING and WP:HARASS. Further, your post to ANI is clearly a violation of WP:NPA. Do not restore the material that has been suppressed, and comment on content, not contributors. ST47 (talk) 22:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
I did not link to anything at the ANI and only mentioned the Twitter bit of his as a possible reason he is going after the voice actor articles. I think that is relevant to the discussion there. And while he is allowed to make vicious personal attacks against people on Twitter, I know no one is allowed to insult anyone here on Wikipedia. I did not think me repeating a link others had posted about the reddit discussion on the page of an administrator who warned him in the past was outing, but whatever. That post did show a clear history of what was going on. DreamFocus 22:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Your belief that an off-site account is related to a given Wikipedia user is not relevant to ANI nor to any business on Wikipedia at all, unless and until that user links from their Wikipedia account to that external site, as WP:OUTING explains. As far as I know, every other link to the attack post on Reddit which you mention has already been suppressed. If we have missed one, by all means email it to Special:EmailUser/Oversight. ST47 (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Update on this for anyone coming by later on. 14:33, 6 November 2019 Mkdw blocked Sk8erPrince with an expiration time of indefinite by the decision of the Arbitration Committee. He did also out himself on 23:07, 3 November 2019 [56]. DreamFocus 03:16, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
I got to say. I am neutral on the whole articles to be deleted or not. Sometimes they don’t pass and sometimes they IMO. But I miss the times like editors like you took a stance on keeping the articles and the times you were active. I myself feel like like I am the inclusionist on AFD's like this one. I appreciate your hard work even though some didn’t. Also if you are still active can I maybe place the article on the rescue page? Jhenderson777 14:26, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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Wikipedia needs more people like you. Too many editors are delete happy it seems. You help keep that in check. Bluedude588 (talk) 23:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
When I said WP:HEYMAN this bad boy, I meant add as much sources as possible, you know, WP:BEFORE? It's not enough to just say spinoff to keep them. You need to find sources, don't care if they're primary. That you find sources at all will allow it to pass WP:V and allow the articles to be kept. ミラP 03:09, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
I visit all list articles, whether anyone tags them for Rescue or not. And without any references at all, spinoff articles are kept at times. DreamFocus 03:26, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
That I understand, but perhaps the chances of the articles being kept are increased if you do WP:BEFORE and add as much sources as possible. ミラP 04:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
As far as Wikipedia role models go, you are definitely mine. I aspire to be like you. I will strive to do my best to stop pages from getting deleted on Wikipeida. TwinTurbo (talk) 00:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
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I don't see the Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery on any of the list of pages the arbitration committee has on their list of pages, so I assume you are just posting that to discourage someone who dared disagree with you on the talk page of that article. DreamFocus 18:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
As you can see at the top of the article talk page, it is under DS. Please WP:AGF. O3000 (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I saw your edit here but I don't understand the question. Or the placement? Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Error in Template:Reply to: Username not given. It says: Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Coronation of the Thai monarch and then links to it when you click on it. DreamFocus 02:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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Dreamfocus, regarding this: that COI tag wasn’t added by someone else. It was part of the initial post by Ekpyros,[57] for what reason I can’t imagine unless it was a mistake. This was not an accusation made by anybody, and there is nothing to suggest Ekpyros has a COI of some kind. That’s why I removed it. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:13, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
They made a request for an edit they wanted in the article, it protected against new users obviously. Don't remove it. The tag should say edit request without the COI bit. DreamFocus 16:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Obviously. They didn't mean to accuse themselves of a conflict of interest. My hunch is that they mistakenly thought that template, which is called [[Template:Request edit]], was the way to tag their post as an edit request. Easy mistake to make, it's a very misleading title for the template, which actually says "The user below has a request that an edit be made to this article for which that user has an actual or apparent conflict of interest." They probably meant to use this one - [[Template:Edit semi-protected]] - and we should probably put that one at the top of the section, instead of the COI one. If it's OK with you I will do that. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:25, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
I already did that before you posted here. [58]DreamFocus 16:30, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Good, OK, that fixes the problem. That "edit request" template should be renamed, I think I will suggest it. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:32, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
I agree that a template rename would be helpful. BD2412T 16:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Hey, if you are interested in actually working on that article, I can point you to better source material. But sources, especially old ones, have to be read in context and proper nuance applied. There’s a lot of dubious source material out there and the bias in both directions (Colonialism or too flowery) can just make you cringe. I still am dubious if it belongs in mainspace, but a WP:HEY is possible. Montanabw(talk) 17:47, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Fixed. Rather pointless really. Saying its the cover of a video game should be enough. Adding in useless information no one will ever likely see, unless looking for something to complain about, is a pointless waste of time. If there is no possible doubt the image is acceptable, then you shouldn't waste time tagging it for deletion because of some mindless form. DreamFocus 04:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your teamwork help working together with the research to successfully save the article Mango (Saturday Night Live) from deletion! Right cite (talk) 19:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Can I use help on comic book related subjects regarding rescue improvement if possible?[edit]
Canvasing rules say if you post a request like this I can't vote in those AFDs. DreamFocus 15:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I don’t need you to vote. Just improve if you can. You are not always a voter of keep anyway if I remember correctly.Jhenderson777 15:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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Learning by teaching
Could you please look at this? Somebody wants to merge "peer-Learning" and "learning by teaching". I don't understand why "Learning by teaching" ever is menaced! Thank you very much! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Learning_by_teaching Jeanpol (talk) 09:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC) Jeanpol (talk) 09:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
I know I haven't edited for nearly a year, but this article is probably notable [59] and has been nominated into Afd and resulted in keep[60]. do you think it would be restored even created by a blocked user?. 49.151.167.255 (talk) 23:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Phediuk and Videogameplayer99 both voted to keep it and are still active, so talk to them. Everyone else who said keep is blocked from Wikipedia. I'm not certain anything could be written about her that isn't in the main article for the game. I see a review of a comic book she's in, but not much about her. https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=003516479746865699832:leawcwkqifq You can sort through all the reviews there and see. DreamFocus 02:56, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Regarding this reversion, I agree that notability is not temporary. My change - which added "sustained" as a requirement (and linked to text further down on the page), was designed to say just that. Did I somehow end up saying just the opposite? Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:15, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
You should know by now that "a wikilink is not a reliable source." verbatim WP:UGC. You are far from correct when you saidIf there is a blue link that's all you ever need. Did you just make that up? Toddst1 (talk) 15:36, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
From many years of participating in AFDs for list articles, that's always the case. Navigational list are always kept. You can't change something that has been listed on a guideline page for years, without a discussion and consensus. DreamFocus 15:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
And you should know that guidelines cannot conflict with policy. Toddst1 (talk) 15:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Kindly keep all discussion at [61]. DreamFocus 15:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi Dream Focus I saw your draft on the lab leak [62]. Please be aware that there already was such an unpublished draft that was deleted [63], and a published article that was blanked and forwarded [64]. There is a small band of activists who will seek to have it deleted and will also try to get you topic banned or even site banned. [65][66][67]. Please be careful. CutePeach (talk) 14:21, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
CutePeach, your WP:ASPERSIONS (and your links to reddit and known lab-leak proponents like Deigin) are not helpful, and suggest again that you're not here... As to the draft, DF, feel free to make one (so long it scrupulously follow policies about neutral point of view and non-mainstream theories), but you should maybe try contributing to the relevant articles (COVID-19 misinformation and Investigations into the origin of COVID-19) to see if there would be sufficient reason to split off from there. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:38, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
President Biden called for an investigation in this, and there is ample news in reliable sources about it. I'm not sure what the previous draft someone did was, but I have reliable sources for every statement made in my draft. DreamFocus 14:50, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
I can't tell if you are joking or not. Person sounds more human. I guess when robots take over one day they'll insist we say editors. DreamFocus 02:43, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
i suggested editor to de-personalize the comment, no to de-humanize.—¿philoserf? (talk) 13:45, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Page was nominated for deletion by @Ohnoitsjamie and the page was deleted after discussion. Apparently the page creator @Dream_Focus wasn't notified at the time so the page has been restored. Little has changed and I don't see enough depth-of-coverage to meet WP:WEB or WP:GNG.
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We're going to disagree here, which is precisely why I value you as a trusted wikipedian. I'll confess a personal attachment to a gaming hobby, and when I look at the webpages of these struggling but still active rail-related clubs it reminds me of my experience with my hobby. So tough to get media coverage for a non-profit hobby club. When one does garner coverage it's for an event, not the org. I certainly wasn't threatening to AFD any of the remaining list entries but do bemoan the dearth of sources applied. BusterD (talk) 19:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Re this comment: no I hadn't really thought of that, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Still, I'm not sure I understand this:
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Maybe you can help me here. Can you give an example of a list that fulfills "recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes" but does not meet notability requirements? I can't think of any such examples. Thanks again.VRtalk 05:39, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_sport_utility_vehicles ended in Keep. If its a good category then its fine for a list article as list show more information and are more useful than categories. Notice the article itself has no references at all.
There are a very large number of list articles for characters of a popular television show, for awards won by someone famous if the list is too big to fit in their main article about them, and list of their books or songs.
But all of those would also meet WP:GNG. For example, for minor planets we have this RS[68]. Are there lists that do not meet GNG but are still very useful? VRtalk 06:10, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Category:Lists of animal fatalities shows a bunch of lists. The AFD arguments for them at times have resulted in people pointing out it was valid encyclopedic information, even if no source covered all of them together.
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_works_by_Edward_Robert_Hughes was about an article showing a picture and listing information about all the paintings a famous artist had made, and it was kept. No evidence anyone ever published any reviews or any notable books listing all of his work.
Category:Lists of distilleries shows list that are kept, even for entries that don't have many blue links, or coverage. I'm not sure why, but some find that to be notable information worthy of Wikipedia lists.
Category:Lists of fictional species is an interesting example. We have sources that discuss "mythical creatures" ([72][73] but they don't seem to cover science fiction, nor do they seem to cover non-animal species (fictional plants, fictional bacteria etc). But having Category:Lists of fictional species is useful for organizational purposes. So I think that might finally be the example I was looking for. Thanks for putting up with me.VRtalk 22:53, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Hey! Would just like to thank you for your edits on List of Squid Game characters! I have also noticed that you've been editing Wikipedia since 2009, which is an incredible accomplishment. Keep up the good work here!
I would also like to take the time to apologise. I am the same person that was blocked on the Taylor Swift Wiki. I have not come here to ask to be unblocked, I have come here to apologise once and for all, as I have absolutely nothing against you. I also want to make it clear that I do not own any Fandom Wiki sockpupppets, the only account I have is my main one, I just changed my username with it back in August. Since the block, I have reflected on the decisions I made on the Taylor Swift Wiki and fully admit that I was in the wrong, and apologise again for what happened. On Wikipedia I use original research and do not copy from elsewhere, and I will only use original research when editing Fandom Wikis as well.
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Thank you for arguing to keep the article, "List of games with ray tracing support". I've consulted on occasion and also fixed/added to a time or two, so I was a bit surprised and annoyed when I discovered that it was deleted. I wonder if those who favored deleting it would also want to delete "List of games with support for high-fidelity image upscaling", another growing list I sometimes consult.
I'm new to Wikipedia's editing process. Is it rare for a deleted article to be undeleted? Bobobob2 (talk) 23:55, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
I did a full history export to https://list.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_games_with_ray_tracing_support to save it. Some people delete articles because they believe they are somehow helping the encyclopedia by eliminating things some might want to read, and others destroy things because they don't like them. Unfortunately no way to stop them in most cases. DreamFocus 04:03, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for disagreeing with me in the deletions. I mean it. From one another's perspective, we may be both be "pests", but as long our disagreements are in a collegial, polite fashion, that's good for the project. I don't always (to say the least) agree with you, but I find your arguments and stance valuable, and I am glad you are able to participate in this topic area. Merry XMAS,
Is there a reason you're following my XFD actions so closely? Sometimes you're there literally seconds after I nominate or redirect something, and it's really starting to feel like you're trying to prove a point and/or outright wiki-stalking me. I don't think you are, but it's really getting uncanny just how closely you're managing to tail me. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
I was there when you nominated an article I renamed for deletion. You have mass nominated a lot of similar articles at once for prod, AFD, or redirect. I have gone through them at times since you are ignoring WP:GNG, despite the notability guidelines being the rule, and instead keep quoting a pointless essay as an excuse to try to redirect articles that clearly meet the requirements for an article, such as [74][75][76][77][78][79], etc. Stop wasting everyone's time with this nonsense and follow the rules of Wikipedia. DreamFocus 02:33, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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There is no precedent whatsoever for including a singles table in album articles. MOS:ALBUM makes no mention of doing so whatsoever, and I have yet to see a GA- or FA-class album article that does include a singles table. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
I note the singles are listed in the infobox. So they don't need to be elsewhere. DreamFocus 20:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
User_talk:Northamerica1000#This Is It (Jack Ingram album) is where this discussion continued. As I just pointed out there: Chart performance section shows the album's "Peak position" so no reason not to show the singles beneath that. The information in the infobox doesn't have that information. Articles that have the chart section quite long, like the mentioned 1989_(Taylor_Swift_album)#Charts, don't seem to list the singles information there, but probably because not enough room to list that much information, they instead put that information in a separate article Taylor Swift singles discography. DreamFocus 21:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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I've noticed that you are one of the participants on the Wikiprojects page for Popular culture. I've made a nomination for the popular culture music group BTS for featured article. Any interest in participating and maybe making some comments? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
@Bruxton:[80] shows a bot fixed one of those errors automatically. Since the errors are all from links to the same website, it should be able to fix the rest somehow. Any ideas on how to make that happen? DreamFocus 17:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Never mind, I went in and fixed it. DreamFocus 17:15, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
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Yeah, thanks for that fix.i was working on that,but you got there first and that's fine, it's solved. However, I was concerned that the "Actually, no" section would look like another vote. Does your fix take care of that? If so great, and sorry for the hassle. I try not to break things but in keeping with my theme in this RfA I like to own it, when clearly I have. Elinruby (talk) 18:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
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You only need two reliable sources giving significant coverage to meet the general notability guidelines. I have already included that. Also, as I said on your talk page, when you moved it to draft, it still remains at the original mainspace article as well. I'm not sure what happened. Maybe I edited it at the same time you tried to move it. If you don't believe it meets notability requirements, then you can nominate it for deletion. I have made plenty of articles over the many years I have been here, I know the requirements for them. DreamFocus 12:19, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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T G & Y was soon ran out of business after an off-duty sheriff shot and killed a young mother for stealing baby formula! But as the infamous erasing of history goes, the ONLY place you'll find it is in the newspaper archives of the Oklahoma City library, September 1985. But yeah you keep thinking you can just google or wikipedia info like that! Your whole existence can be called into question and you just accept it because...whoa democracy and all. There's no words for the disgust I feel for the totally ignorant and oblivious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.183.69.95 (talk) 12:34, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
I don't think every single store location went out of business instantly after one incident. If you can find a reliable source that proves that actually happened, then you can add it to the article. DreamFocus 20:29, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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Hey Dream Focus, I'm checking in here because I recently noticed the discussion at the Cisgenderism AfD and your comments about the article creator seem unusual, particularly given my general impression of your thoughtful and civil participation at AfD. I am wondering if you are maybe having an off day, and perhaps took your view on the state of the article a bit too far when commenting on the personal characteristics of the article creator as part of this analysis. So I am writing to encourage you to reconsider your comments, consider striking them and apologizing, to help promote a more collaborative environment at AfD. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 14:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Please tell me exactly what I said that you find inappropriate. [81] I did not mention them by name, I simply pointed out "This article was made entirely by one user, who identifies as queer, non-binary, and trans. It reads like a personal essay." Their user page User:Maddy_from_Celeste has at the top three banners reading: "This user identifies as queer." "This user is non-binary." "This user is trans." Now how exactly is this not appropriate? Someone believes in something, so they made an article that reads like a personal essay. I also pointed out part of the article disagreed with the definition of "sex" that the dictionary and the Wikipedia article for "sex" had. Can someone disagree with dictionaries and encyclopedias and write what they want to believe is true, and not have anyone be allowed to disagree with them on that? DreamFocus 15:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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What you quote has a follow up sentence clarifying "Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic". Someone believes something is true, even if the dictionaries and encyclopedias say otherwise, then I have the right to point out their possible conflict of interest for this specific article or topic. DreamFocus 15:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Like I said, I am trying to step lightly with regard to discussing the no personal attacks policy, because it sounds as if your comments could be read as suggesting the article creator or any editor who identifies as queer, non-binary and/or trans, may be biased, which may be considered the type of derogatory phrase based on gender identity and/or sexual orientation directed against another editor or a group of editors described in the section above the one I quoted as an example.From my view, your disagreement about some article content does not support using an editor's disclosed personal characteristics to suggest the disputed edits occurred due to a conflict of interest, particularly when this editor may happen to be familiar with the vast amount of secondary sources on this contentious topic, and Wikipedia is a work in progress. I think the last thing we would want to happen is for AfD to devolve into routine gender checks, with discussion about which editors should be excluded from discussion and article editing because of who they are.From my view, you have tread onto a very sensitive area, so I wanted to express my concern about how your comments may be coming across, regardless of your intent. And ultimately, we know AfD turns on the sources, guidelines, and policies, so for what appears to be a draftify or WP:TNT-style argument based on the state of the article, I still do not see how the personal characteristics and inferred beliefs of the article creator is relevant to the AfD discussion. You can express your view without commenting on the personal characteristics of the article creator; the dispute resolution and NPA policies encourage this, as does the etiquette guideline. If you have a concern about conduct issues, there are other forums available. Beccaynr (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
And after I posted this, I noticed you had already removed your second comment and struck the part of your comment that another participant had responded to [83]. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 18:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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WP:NAUTHOR is for an author, not their bestselling book. DreamFocus 01:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
please substantiate that it's "best-selling." Elinruby (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Excuse me. When someone gives a writer a million dollar advancement, I assume the book is good enough to be a bestseller. His next book did well enough for them to buy the film rights to it. Anyway, irrelevant here. DreamFocus 19:02, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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Why are you bothering me today? Are you going to post pointless templates on everyone who did any editing on the article for Gonzalo Lira? [84] The only edits I made was to add links to articles about his books, nothing more. So nothing contentious. DreamFocus 19:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
The notices say the topics are contentious, not your edits. If you read them you'll find that they tell you how you can mark yourself as aware of contentious topic restrictions. And yes, considering what's going onat the AfD I am giving them to everyone who has not done so. Regardless of the position they have taken. This is a routine template that is required before any enforcement takes place. Your incivility above in response to a routine template is an example of something that is a bigger problem because of the topic area, and and really? Lack of notability is a ridiculous reason for a prod? AGF says I should assume that's a bad joke, but imho you should strike that too as it raises CIR concerns in my mind. Your call though. You may delete this section if you choose but at this point you have been notified that you are in a contentious topic twice over, and should take care to follow policy, and deleting the section will not change that. I am not really available for Wikipedia purposes right now but I am considering an AfD for the articles about the books, and since you apparently hadn't read the notice yet I am going to let the incivility slide as well as
the OR about it being a best seller Elinruby (talk) 22:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
You posted the pointless template to me and one other person only. Is there a list of everyone who edited the article for the guy or the AFD for it, which puts everyone in two groups so you knew who to tag? I've been on Wikipedia 17 and a half years, and never got that template before. It serves absolutely no purpose unless you believe someone did something they shouldn't. You then prodded an article I created for a book, despite the reliable sources give ample coverage to. You have now tagged that article with "better source needed" tags for three of the four reviews with the edit summary "(Better source needed for citations to review mills)" https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Acrobat_%28novel%29&diff=1197539304&oldid=1197503587] The reviews listed are referenced to the official websites that the review was on! So that's not a proper tag to put on them. Anyway, most articles about books on Wikipedia reference review sites considered to be reliable sources. DreamFocus 03:29, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
This is blatant canvassing. Don't try pulling any more of that or we'll be taking a trip to ANI. Thanks. Sergecross73msg me 12:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Canvassing#Votestacking is clear enough. Read the third paragraph. I contacted everyone from the previous discussion who hadn't found their way there yet, regardless of what they said. As long as everyone knows about it, its fair and reasonable. I've done this many times over the years, and seen others do it, it perfectly acceptable. DreamFocus 17:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Its extremely difficult to believe that explanation when you make comments like this before it. Your comments at the AFD make it pretty clear that you were (baselessly?) accusing the nominator of canvassing, and in turn, was doing canvassing of your own. And everyone you tagged previously !vote keep or neutral. And I'm also the third person now to interpret this as canvassing, including one of the people you canvassed who agreed with your stance in the prior AFD. This was...pretty blatant. Sergecross73msg me 18:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
What other person? I don't see anyone agreeing with you but Kung Fu Man. SnowFire is the only one commenting so far, and they agree with me that it wasn't canvasing. DreamFocus 18:51, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Apologies, I thought Oinkers said it too, but technically they only requested that you assume good faith in those comments. Sergecross73msg me 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
FWIW, I'd also agree that Dream's notification was exempt from canvassing, per the guideline. I've always found Dream to be one of our most exemplary AfD participants, I often try to model my AfD votes after Dream's effective and collegial style. Anyway, good on you for apologising, all too rare folk are decent enough to do that these days. FeydHuxtable (talk) 19:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, all five of the references you removed mentioned DVD Talk. They date from when the article was created by a respected editor who is now an admin, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
I realize my mistake. Some references call it DVDTalk and others DVD Talk. So searching for just DVDtalk got no results. DreamFocus 22:26, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
ok thanks for the explanation, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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The references are of course in the articles linked to. I just copied two of them over, the third one has the information in the infobox without a reference. Kindly move it back now, nothing more can be done with it. DreamFocus 20:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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