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Thanks for helping me with various things since I joined wikipedia, the help I've seen you provide to other editors and your contributions in maintaining the site. Verapar (talk) 02:01, 3 January 2011 (UTC) |
- Thank you! JohnCD (talk) 11:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
User continues to remove wikilink on my article
Hi JohnCD,
The diffs:
I thought I gave a sufficient explanation the first time Hmains did it in my comment when I undid the edit.
Someone else has already complained on Hmains's talk page (although s/he has removed it, you can only see it in their revision history below) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hmains&diff=next&oldid=401724669
I've also written about this on the talk page for the article: Talk:Tricia_Rose
What would you do? - Verapar (talk) 06:16, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, I would find it hard to get worked up about this. There was a violent feud some time ago about whether dates should be linked, with one party doing mass linking and the other doing mass de-linking; in the end heads were banged together, a poll was organised, and the decision was that dates should not normally be linked. If it is important to you that this one should be, and Hmains delinks it again, ask him/her directly not to; if that doesn't work, use WP:Third opinion or other WP:Dispute resolution process. JohnCD (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Wow. Thanks for the info. I am averse to hostility. But mainly I ask the question on principle that someone shouldn't repeatedly remove a link provides important information for the article (I would think a whole century is more significant than the typical "date", and when explicitly someone's research interest) and do it repeatedly when I've already explained why they shouldn't. I think there should be a feature in AWB such that a user can exclude some pages. I think this case can be a good example of the "mob" being wrong. But doesn't "not normally be linked" imply that there are exceptions i.e. that using AWB to automatically remove such links would remove some valid cases? Was that the exact wording? -Verapar (talk) 01:33, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know the exact wording of the decision and it would certainly not prohibit linking in a particular case if it was useful. I think the original issue was that one party wanted to link every date so that 3 January 2011 would always appear as 3 January 2011, and others felt that was WP:OVERLINKing. It takes all sorts to make an encyclopedia; some people can get obsessive about details of style, but on the whole the AWB people and the Manual of style do a useful job of making things look less amateur than they otherwise would, and if wholesale changes are wrong in particular cases, they can always be changed back, as you have here. JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks again. I appreciate the detailed explanation. That's good it would not prevent linking in a useful case as that was not clear from the discussion I linked to. Maybe I'll notify the AWB people of this case and see what can be done. It just seems odd to unlink the 20th century, the developments there had global impacts in many areas. -Verapar (talk) 14:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know the exact wording of the decision and it would certainly not prohibit linking in a particular case if it was useful. I think the original issue was that one party wanted to link every date so that 3 January 2011 would always appear as 3 January 2011, and others felt that was WP:OVERLINKing. It takes all sorts to make an encyclopedia; some people can get obsessive about details of style, but on the whole the AWB people and the Manual of style do a useful job of making things look less amateur than they otherwise would, and if wholesale changes are wrong in particular cases, they can always be changed back, as you have here. JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Wow. Thanks for the info. I am averse to hostility. But mainly I ask the question on principle that someone shouldn't repeatedly remove a link provides important information for the article (I would think a whole century is more significant than the typical "date", and when explicitly someone's research interest) and do it repeatedly when I've already explained why they shouldn't. I think there should be a feature in AWB such that a user can exclude some pages. I think this case can be a good example of the "mob" being wrong. But doesn't "not normally be linked" imply that there are exceptions i.e. that using AWB to automatically remove such links would remove some valid cases? Was that the exact wording? -Verapar (talk) 01:33, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Re: Pivit
No problem, someone has already edited it into a fine article. Victão Lopes I hear you... 22:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Excellent - and I see you have helped, thanks! JohnCD (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Page Deletion
Hi there! Hope everything's ok. You just deleted my page Nikos Antoniou but I made all the changes that were required after the nomination. I don't wanna mess it again. Please just let me know if you checked the last article (that you deleted) and if was ok. It was a very short article with just basic information with a lot of references. It was not the first one. It's the same article with the one on the greek wiki.
Thank you in advance! NAMUSICTV (talk) 00:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- I deleted the article as a result of the deletion debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nikos Antoniou, and the article considered there was the December one, not the version speedily-deleted in August. The issue was notability and the contributors to the debate considered that the references provided, and the results of their searches, did not show the "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" required - see also WP:CREATIVE. The nominator remarked that there was no article in Greek Wikipedia, and I see that since the debate started you have added one there, but that does not count as evidence of notability. If you wish to challenge the decision you can go to WP:Deletion review, but read the instructions at the head of that page. Thank you for approaching me more courteously than the contributor immediately below! JohnCD (talk) 10:38, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ok John! Thank you so much. One day I will try to make a new, better article. NAMUSICTV (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Jim Riffel Page
What is wrong with you? People like you are why Wikipedia is a drag. You deleted the "Jim Riffel" page as a hoax. You write about how you "patrol" for "hoaxes." One word missing from your self-written bio is "fact." Why don't you spend 10 seconds researching facts before you just casually decide to trash somebody's real reseach. Check out these three links (two from newspapers, one from a "gannet news service" newspaper) and get on IMDB and a bunch of other sites to see that this page is not a "hoax." After you do your fact checking put the page back up. You need to become a better person. If it isn't back up in two days I will be reporting you to Wikipedia.
http://www.nj.com/independentpress/index.ssf/2010/12/chatham_filmmaker_hooked_on_ho.html
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0556826/
ChloeLoveday (talk) 01:51, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- I did not delete this article as a hoax. Another editor mistakenly tagged it as a hoax when it was first input, but that tag was removed after one minute. I deleted it as a result of the deletion discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Jim Riffel, of which you were notified on your talk page. The discussion concluded that the article did not demonstrate notability - see WP:CREATIVE for Wikipedia's notability standard for film-makers. During the debate another user added two sources (nj.com and reelingreviews) and your note above adds another (dailyrecord.com) but they are not enough to establish notability to the standard of WP:CREATIVE. If you want to challenge the decision, the place to do that is WP:Deletion review, but read the instructions at the top first. JohnCD (talk) 22:36, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Attack page
I dont respect the deletion of a page I made that you noted as an 'attack' page. I made the page with the person that it was made about and it was not an attack on anyone and had nothing harmful to it. It was all detailed facts about the person and the links provided supplied information about the fact. I will be asking to repost this page and its links. Thrice6socca (talk) 19:03, 5 January 2011 (UTC)thrice6socca
- If you think that "He is most known for his pantsings, slobbering, slurring and most importantly, dick-tugging" is not an attack, you have some curious ideas. Wikipedia's policy on Biographies of living persons is that "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." In any case, Wikipedia is a serious project to build an encyclopedia, not a place for you to make jokey articles with your friends. For that, you want somewhere like Myspace. If you are interested in contributing seriously, start by reading WP:Your first article. JohnCD (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- Article just re-created and I've tagged it as an attack. Peridon (talk) 19:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the clean-up. --Kleopatra (talk) 06:04, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- My pleasure. JohnCD (talk) 18:14, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Global Collect
Dear John, I've written a (new) page for GlobalCollect.
Can you approve this page of send me some feedback, if required?
Thanks a lot!
Best regards,
Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marky555 (talk • contribs) 08:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am short of time at the moment but a first, major comment is: I don't see the "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" needed to establish notability. All you have by way of references is an entry in Slideshare.net which seem to be the company's own brochure, and a note that in 2007 " Ashurst advised NIBC Bank N.V. on the financing of the purchase of internet payments services provider Global Collect by private equity investor General Atlantic". That's not nearly enough - see WP:42. JohnCD (talk) 18:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Edits to company article
Hello JohnCD-- You rejected a speedy deletion request of my Wikipedia account several months ago, and you were able to provide some pointers for how to edit or propose edits for my company's article page. As I explained on my user page, I work in the corporate communications department at Diebold, and I am hoping to correct or update inaccurate or outdated information on Diebold's article page. I submitted my proposed changes to the talk page for Diebold's article, and I'm now waiting for feedback from others. All of my proposed changes are factual in nature, yet I understand I should wait for feedback on most of these changes. There are a few changes, however, that I am wondering if I can go in and make these changes myself without waiting for feedback. The first change would be to update the "key people" section in the call out box on the article page. The CIO listed is no longer at Diebold-- is it OK that I remove his name? Or should I wait for someone else to do this? Also, the founding date of our company, which is also listed in the call out box, is slightly incorrect. As Diebold celebrated its 150th anniversary in 2009, through research we found that there is no exact month on record for when our company was founded. We just know that our company was founded in 1859. Can I correct this piece of information without awaiting feedback? Please advise. I appreciate any help you can provide. Rebekah Boyd (talk) 14:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, for changes that you are satisfied are factual, uncontroversial and could not be considered promotional, go ahead and make them. For anything else, if you have made a proposal on the talk page and nobody comments, you can always add {{helpme}} (two curly brackets each side) at the bottom of your proposal with a note that you would like consensus to make the changes. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:08, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Jim Riffel/Night Of The Day Of the Dawn Of The Son Of The Bride
John cd - Oh, so you did not delete the page as a "hoax" even though it was flagged by an editor as a "hoax." Odd that it could be randomly flagged, eh? Perhaps a better name for this site would be wikipinions and not wikipedia. You see, after it was established that the "Jim Riffel" page was not a hoax you then, in your opinion, decided it did not "demonstrate notability." I will take it up with "WP:Delition review" but for your own good, and to become better at your job which it appears you would like to be good at, you should consider the following: RESEARCH. On the notability guideline page under "biographies" one criteria is "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field." The field in question would be film or more specifically the genre of "cult film." If you are unfamiliar with "cult film" look it up on its very own wikipedia page. In 1991 Jim Riffel directed a film which over the last 20 years has become one of the most popular cult films ever made, "Night Of The Day Of The Dawn Of The Son Of The Bride Of The Return Of The Revenge Of The Terror Of The Attack Of The Evil, Mutant, Hellbound, Zombified, Subhumanoid, Flesh-Eating Living Dead - Part 2." This is not my opinion. Google is the most used and respected search engine on the internet. When searching, if you type in, in quotes "I want to wake up on the moon" you'll come back with 1 result. That sentence appears on one site, a poetry site called, "helium." That's because google will only pick up results that have that exact sentence in that exact order. It will not pick up "I want to wake up" or "on the moon." Again, only that exact sentence in that order. When you google search the cult film "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," one of the most popular cult films of all time you get 1,140,000 results. Another popular cult film, "The Big Lebowski," gives 6,000,000 results. No one types in the full "Night Of The Day Of The..." movie. But there has never been another movie with the first seven words, "Night Of The Day Of The Dawn." When those seven words, which are basically the title of the film, are typed into a google search there are 9,530,000 results. I don't know how, in your opinion, you could believe that's not notable. Please research next time. It's for your own good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.15.199 (talk) 14:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- It was not my opinion: another editor nominated it for a deletion discussion. You were notified of the discussion, and it was listed on the list of Film-related deletion discussions so that anyone interested could contribute. It was open for seven days; both of those who contributed agreed with the nominator that the subject was not notable, and I closed the discussion accordingly. JohnCD (talk) 18:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
please
please my biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rihannaonline (talk • contribs) 14:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- It needs to be (a) in English, (b) not copied from another website and (c) show that she is notable to the standard of WP:MUSICBIO. JohnCD (talk) 18:31, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
nice one John
Hi, many thanks for deleting that redirect I requested, housekeeping was my best idea as to a reason to get delete it, I am going to investigate those speedy guidelines a bit as it seems that there individual usage is not easy to understand well, I usually find myself looking for the closest available from a bunch of vague reasons - housekeeping - to me that also covers everything, best. Off2riorob (talk) 21:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's worth reading WP:CSD as the speedy criteria are purposely tightly drawn and if you can't find one that matches it usually means the page shouldn't be speedied. I get uneasy with G6 unless (as in this case) I can see what the justification is - your link to the BLP/N discussion was the key. Actually I clicked on it thinking it looked like a G10 (attack page). There is good advice for speedy taggers by SoWhy at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for those links, I will have a read of them. Off2riorob (talk) 02:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Jim Riffel Page
Wow. You really don't get it, do you? You write back that the Jim Riffel page "was nominated for deletion discussion. It was open for 7 days. Both of those who contributed agreed with the nominator that the subject was not notable and I closed the discussion accordingly." So basically you're dismissing and refusing to take any responsibilty for someone else's mistake or your mistake. Since I showed you the "notability" with a "9,000,000 result" google search your answer isn't of course that the three or four people involved in deleting the article should have done more research, it's that the "deletion discussion was open for seven days." Take my sincere advice and never ever become a lawyer. You'll starve. The trouble with Wikipedia is that the blame and responsibility can be shifted around and hidden behind, basically, nameless "administrators." Do you think my view of Wikipedia is untrue or maybe a bit absurd. Well, then don't take it from me. Take it from Marcel Berlins. Are you familiar with him? He's an attorney and hosted BBC's legal program "Law In Action" for 15 years. He's also a professor of Media Law at City University in London. Yes, he's very notable. He even has his own Wikipedia page. He writes a column for the British Newspaper, The Guardian. On January 28, 2009, he wrote an article entitled, "Wikipedia Is Unreliable In Its Current Form." You should read it. There are two points he makes that you should pay attention to and these are quotes from the article. "Allowing anyone to contribute to Wikipedai without checking his or her credentials was always a flawed concept, encouraging inaccuracy, unreliability and irresponsibility." So yes, you as an "administrator" are there to check the people that upload articles and information. But, unfortunately, the second point he makes is just as true: "The brutal fact is that a work of reference which depends mainly on volunteer amateurs, whose good faith, ability and expertise are unknown, and whose contributions are largely unchecked, cannot be other than unreliable." You and those like you on Wikedpedia should take your job serious and not only check but re-check and then check again. The reason Marcel Berlins ends up writing an article like that is because the fact checkers on Wikepedia are either too lazy or too uninterested in doing there job. And then when mistakes are made nobody cares enough to take responsibilty and fix them. Here's the link to Marcel Berlins article. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/28/marcel-berlins-wikipedia-comment — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChloeLoveday (talk • contribs) 00:51, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- Berlins is not alone: you can find a long list of people who say the same at Criticism of Wikipedia, and I don't think many people would disagree. No anyone-can-edit encyclopedia is reliable; the surprising thing is that, judging by the number of readers and the number of contributors, Wikipedia actually works adequately well. There are others like Citizendium and Scholarpedia which have taken a different approach, but somehow Wikipedia is where everyone wants to be.
- Given that anyone can put anything in, one way we try to keep things straight is to let anyone challenge an article, and then have a debate for a week, with systems like the List of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions to bring it to the notice of people with a special interest in the field. You should assume good faith that those who took part in the debate did their research; mere number of Ghits is not necessarily an indication of notability, they were looking for significant coverage in reliable sources, not just comment on the title.
- In any case, you have taken the first step to challenge the deletion by asking me to change my decision. No, I will not do that, because the result of the deletion debate is quite clear. If you want to go further, your next step is WP:Deletion review. Read the instructions at the top of that page, and ask me below here if you need any help. If you would like me to post the DRV for you, say so below here and write out the "reason" section, and I will do the rest. JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Your eyes...
Perhaps an SPI might be in order? You blocked User:Filmwalker for username violation on 15:15, 27 December 2010.[1] We now have two new SPA accounts User:Batoneyes[2] and User:Artlines478[3] who began editing the same articles at the same time... and subsequent to the Filmwalker block. Would checkuser still have access to the IP addresses removed from the history of Dreams and Shadows at Filmwalker's request, for comparisons the the two new SPA twins? I am smelling roast duck. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up, but it's probably not worth it. I don't think CU needs the old IP, they can connect accounts without that, and as you say it quacks fairly loudly; but, though I greatly dislike seeing WP used for self-promotion, it looks as though his articles are going to scrape through, and it seems inconsistent to allow them and block him. I will put uw-coi templates on their talk pages, and suggest leaving it at that unless we have more trouble. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Appreciate your getting back to me. I myself am willng to also give the benefit of the doubt to the two... but will also have that article set on watch. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Dealing with vandalism
Hi JohnCD,
I wary of getting into a confrontation with someone but at the same time, I see numerous, repeated vandalism on an article (I've just emailed you the situation).
I don't feel I'm very familiar with template messages or the options available with this. I'm wary of confrontation, especially being a new user. So my question was what would be some options e.g. could I ask an admin to give the warning instead?
- Verapar (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- Vandalism and what to do about it is described at WP:VANDAL, but what you describe is not vandalism (see WP:NOTVAND), it is a content dispute, in which admins have no more say than any other editor, and should be resolved by discussion on the talk page. That is a high-traffic page which a lot of people watch, so if you describe the disagreement you have with Justicejayant there will be plenty of people ready to chip in and it should be possible to establish a WP:Consensus. Content changes would only become vandalism if they were repeatedly made against an established consensus. Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle describes how Wikipedia operates - this issue has evidently passed through the Bold and Revert stages and should enter Discuss. JohnCD (talk) 22:49, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I think this may already have been discussed, i.e. it is vandalism by deletions "repeatedly made against an established consensus". I saw briefly by the diffs of their talkpage that the user was already warned about removing this info. This is the first time I restored the deleted info personally i.e. all other 10 times the deleted info was restored by other users. Also their criteria for deletion is against the WP consensus for what is considered sourced material i.e. they state a need for video evidence. So would this be a Uw-delete3 for deleting properly sourced content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verapar (talk • contribs) 18:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- So I've added my clarifications to the talk page. Looking through the archives of the article, I didn't see a record of argument with this user. There were a few users asking about the instruments and others confirming. So I noted what was the consistent practice on WP, as well as the additional other published sources supporting the information. Their last edit also didn't have a comment, so that seems to be removing information arbitrarily as well. -Verapar (talk) 16:46, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I think this may already have been discussed, i.e. it is vandalism by deletions "repeatedly made against an established consensus". I saw briefly by the diffs of their talkpage that the user was already warned about removing this info. This is the first time I restored the deleted info personally i.e. all other 10 times the deleted info was restored by other users. Also their criteria for deletion is against the WP consensus for what is considered sourced material i.e. they state a need for video evidence. So would this be a Uw-delete3 for deleting properly sourced content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verapar (talk • contribs) 18:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
...should be at Prince Frederick of Great Britain (per the request), not Prince Frederick William of Great Britain DBD 14:50, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I'll fix it when my marmalade has finished simmering... JohnCD (talk) 16:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Done. JohnCD (talk) 18:26, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
V1RUS
you deleted my article about the music producer V1RUS, i would like to know why? what was wrong with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshhodge11 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- User NawlinWiki (talk) left a message on your talk page to explain the reason: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and is selective about subjects for articles. We only cover things that are already established, specifically not things that are just up-and-coming. The requirement for entry is called notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." For musical performers, more detailed criteria are explained at WP:MUSICBIO. There is good advice in WP:Your first article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Why did you delete Dang, HE FARTED!?
Just tell me why you deleted Dang, HE FARTED! I just don't understand! Leave me a message on my talk page. —Preceding undated comment added 16:20, 14 January 2011 (UTC).
Page deletion
You just deleted |http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disney_water_molecule_scandal&action=edit&redlink=1. Thanks! It was the first time I flagged a page for a speedy deletion :) DNL (talk) 16:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- My pleasure. JohnCD (talk) 16:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for deleting those archive pages - that'll teach me to cut and paste from another user's talk page, a little knowledge is indeed a dangerous thing. Mikenorton (talk) 18:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Role account
I had no reason to confirm or deny who the user was or if they were acting in any official capacity. I made my block based on the account's claim of multiple people using it. I didn't get much further involved since that itself was blockable. Keegan (talk) 19:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks - it looks as if what he added about second wife and third and fourth children was just fiction - everything on the web seems to be mirrors except one site where the entry was signed by him. It's alarming how rapidly disinformation spreads from here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for help
with the talk page query for Mimi Dietrich. Will do, Manytexts (talk) 23:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Bruce Roberts (News Reader)
Hi John
I'm putting together a page on Bruce Roberts the news anchor. I tried this last year and you apparently deleted it, as I copied the text from the WIN website.
Can you please take a fresh look? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Roberts_(News_Reader)
Cheers
Bern — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernie M Smith (talk • contribs) 23:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, the previous version was deleted on sight as a copyright violation - see Wikipedia:Copy-paste for why that's not allowed. I see this one has been moved to Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Bruce Roberts (News Reader) and you will get comments from there. At a quick look, it might well be challenged on WP:Notability grounds - you need to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." and only the first reference seems to be independent. See also WP:Notability (people) - the standard for newsreaders would be WP:ENTERTAINER. JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Out of my depth
re: Mimi Dietrich - I'm confused about all this stuff about prod (and that it can just be taken down, end of story); and article deletion processes. The Mimi person is a generic quilting designer and teacher with many self-referential ghits and doesn't appear notable otherwise. The originator of the article seems to have been a one-source type too and the personal website is a source. Saying help, yet again, Manytexts (talk) 00:26, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- (replied on your talk page). JohnCD (talk) 12:14, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Belgium
Hi JohnCD, IP 80.33.101.161 is persisting with vandalising Belgium along with other places; perhaps it needs perma-blocking as clearly not heeded your earlier intervention? Thanks for any help. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 12:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Already been blocked by another admin. You'll normally get a faster response at WP:AIV because a lot of admins watch that. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh yes, OK, thank you. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 12:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
ELOUNDA SOLFEZ VILLAS
Dear JohnCD,
You 've just deleted a page on Elounda Solfez Villas I have created. Elounda Solfez Villas is indeed the company I work for, but I did not mean to literally "promote" it. Just thought that it would be magnificent to have a place in Wikipedia. That's why I did not place any contact data, or special offers or any other kind of directions for people. I did place our website though.
Anyway I understand the core values of Wikipedia now, so I kindly ask you to propose any other proper way to re write the article. I ve seen that you do have articles for big companies (or even smaller. Is there a way to add the company in Wikipedia? I also saw that there is the opportunity to place it as an ad under a main article.
Sorry for buzzing you with all the questions but I am new at this.
Thank you very much for your time.
Best regards, Nikolas Lygeros
Nicklyg01 (talk) 14:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Royston Sta Maria
Can I know what is the original article page "Royston Sta Maria". The reason for page removal is "(A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)". I am interested in knowing more about him. His heritage is interesting and he is an old Malaysian artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by My pdm87 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- That was a curious page - it was headed "List of notable Kristang people" and contained a list of nine names, about half of whom already have a Wikipedia article, with a few words about each. All it said about Royston Sta Maria was: "(Australian) Well known Singer and Songwriter from Malaysia." Not much help, I'm afraid; if you find out more about him, you could perhaps consider writing an article? I'll put some links with advice on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 18:24, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- More information might be available looking under "Royston Santa Maria" or "Roy and Fran" (RSM and Francissca Peter) Opbeith (talk) 16:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have passed the suggestion on to the enquirer. JohnCD (talk) 20:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
your post on my page - thanks and...
Thanks for explaining - I didn't want to make more work for deletion sifters. Reason is when I came across quite notable ppl in e.g. ballet, a more exclusive field, yet not in wiki, I wondered why these design-house hacks were getting in for no-great shakes work in a very common field. I guess it wouldn't count for much, but why let them (and others) think it's okay to use wiki as a personal website/ pr adjunct? So, I will read your guide and follow up. Thanks for your help, Manytexts (talk) 00:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
elounda solfez: Many thanks John
Thank you for taking the time to explain in detail the core of Wikipedia. Sorry for the trouble. All the best, Nikolas Nicklyg01 (talk) 09:45, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
This is about "Gokul_Chandola" article- Unlock request.
This is about "Gokul_Chandola" locked article, requested you please unlock to create this topic. This is a live person and I want to write about that which is impressive.
Regards, Dhruv Chandola — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhruvchandola (talk • contribs) 14:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey!
Hello! I've taken a good look at this website. It's awesome! I'm hoping to do one thing and one thing only: To help the bad people that vandalise this website! Problem is, I don't know where to start. Can you help me? RomeEonBmbo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC).
- Also, why do you have to date your posts? RomeEonBmbo (talk) 22:08, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Read your first post above, carefully. Do you really mean it? If so, I will block you straight away. If not, what do you mean? You have to date your posts so that people know who said what, when, and can keep track of conversations. Probably you used only three tildes on your first post - that leaves out the time and date. JohnCD (talk) 22:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- GAH! Speech error there. I meant to say "help stop the bad people that vandalise this website! Like you! Terribly sorry about that! RomeEonBmbo (talk) 21:29, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's better! Advice on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 22:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- GAH! Speech error there. I meant to say "help stop the bad people that vandalise this website! Like you! Terribly sorry about that! RomeEonBmbo (talk) 21:29, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Read your first post above, carefully. Do you really mean it? If so, I will block you straight away. If not, what do you mean? You have to date your posts so that people know who said what, when, and can keep track of conversations. Probably you used only three tildes on your first post - that leaves out the time and date. JohnCD (talk) 22:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Commented text vs Talk page notice
Good afternoon, JohnCD. I was researching some controversial edits recently made by User:Mhiji and ran across some examples of your own edits which confused me. In, for example, Race 2 (2011 film), you closed an AfD discussion by turning the page into a redirect - an entirely reasonable decision given the discussion. But you then added a reference to the AfD in commented text on the redirect's page itself. The usual place to document a related AfD is the Talk page.
May I ask your reasoning for putting the reference in hidden text instead? My thought has always been that the Talk page allows active linking and easier cross-referencing by future readers.
Curiously, Rossami (talk) 22:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- The talk page is good normally, but the point here was to prevent anyone starting a new article at that title (which would cause horrible history-merge problems with the incubator version), so I placed that notice where it would certainly be seen by someone trying to do that, who might not look at the talk page - redirects don't usually have talk pages. The disadvantage is that there are not one-click links to the AfDs or the incubator version, but it's not hard to copy the address into the search box. JohnCD (talk) 22:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- I thought that might be it but in my experience, similar experiments with hidden instructions have been remarkably unsuccessful. When we've used them to, for example, tell users not to spam the example lists at Management consulting or not endlessly recreating dictionary definitions, new users who are determined enough to hit the edit button are either overlooking the hidden text or, more likely, unwilling to change their mind by then and recreate the content anyway. The Talk page approach is not much better, of course. It seems to deflect the better editors who take time to research before they write but does nothing for the rest. The only answer to re-creation that I've found is endless watchlisting.
But perhaps I'm being too cynical today. How effective has this approach been in your experience? How long have you been following this pattern and how many times has it been ignored? Is the practice a personal experiment or a trend that is taking off more widely? Thanks again for your thoughts. Rossami (talk) 22:52, 18 January 2011 (UTC)- This is the only time I have used the technique, on Race 2 and again on Race 2 (2011 film), and it seems to have worked in that neither of them has been over-written (except by Mhiji) and I have not had to protect them as I thought might be necessary. It may help that they offer a constructive alternative for the people who come there to write an article, rather than just saying "don't" as with anti-spam notices. JohnCD (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Keep me informed on the results? Thx. Rossami (talk)
- Yes, sure, though the only news would be if someone ignored one of them and overwrote the redirect. You mentioned "some examples" of my edits - were there others? JohnCD (talk) 22:20, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Keep me informed on the results? Thx. Rossami (talk)
- This is the only time I have used the technique, on Race 2 and again on Race 2 (2011 film), and it seems to have worked in that neither of them has been over-written (except by Mhiji) and I have not had to protect them as I thought might be necessary. It may help that they offer a constructive alternative for the people who come there to write an article, rather than just saying "don't" as with anti-spam notices. JohnCD (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- I thought that might be it but in my experience, similar experiments with hidden instructions have been remarkably unsuccessful. When we've used them to, for example, tell users not to spam the example lists at Management consulting or not endlessly recreating dictionary definitions, new users who are determined enough to hit the edit button are either overlooking the hidden text or, more likely, unwilling to change their mind by then and recreate the content anyway. The Talk page approach is not much better, of course. It seems to deflect the better editors who take time to research before they write but does nothing for the rest. The only answer to re-creation that I've found is endless watchlisting.
Privacy of BLP noticeboard
Hi John, thanks for such a quick reply and for the links. I had already looked at the BLP noticeboard, but my concern is that in using it I'm going to make public the issue. Is there a way of addressing things like this more privately? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by The original kiden (talk • contribs) 13:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes - see additional suggestions on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 13:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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Re: the speedy you just correctly declined, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fabio Barzagli if you're interested. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Sage Advice
Thank you for helping out a complete newbie. It was much appreciated. Pootles. Still forgetting the tildes... Aakheperure (talk) 11:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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- My pleasure! JohnCD (talk) 11:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion decline
Thanks for the tip. I'm afraid that when it comes to songs I don't know...well, anything, really. I've prodded the article. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know why songs and albums are excluded from A7 (no indication of importance or significance), but they are. A9 is a useful, fairly recent addition, but it only applies where the artist has no article. JohnCD (talk) 15:18, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Nomads Golf Club
John,
I have not yet received the text for the Nomads Golf Club that you were emailing me. Are you able to send it directly to js@webwarmer.net please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highlanderdownunder (talk • contribs) 01:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sent again, direct. That's funny - I sent it on the evening of the 19th, as soon as I saw that you had enabled email, and the copy the system sent me arrived OK. Better check the address you filled in under Preferences (I can't see that). If this one doesn't arrive, there may be some size limit in your email (it's 35 kb) - let me know and I will send it in instalments. JohnCD (talk) 10:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Message rejected by a spam filter at your end (!) I have tried sending it as an attachment; if that fails, will try encryption. JohnCD (talk) 22:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank John, I received the attachment. Once I make the amendments what is the process for resubmission? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.72.21 (talk) 23:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
arsenal fc squad numbers
greetings this is my second request to undelete the aforementioned page.my first request was not granted and the reason stated was that the page did not have any encyclopedic value.i would like to point out that the page was greatly helpful in knowing the various players who played for arsenal fc in the last decade or so and all in one page.i was asked to redirect my query to the Mr.T.Canen,upon doing so i have not received any response as on today.i kindly request you to reconsider the deletion of the page.
cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.245.162.73 (talk) 06:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- If Timotheus Canens (talk · contribs) doesn't change his mind, and though I cannot speak for him I think it is unlikely, because the deletion debate was quite clear, you will have to go to WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 13:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Racist editing from IPs
There seem to be a batch of racist edits at the moment. I've seen them from User talk:157.246.224.93, User talk:Trb2121, User talk:98.216.196.206 and User talk:157.246.224.105. Do you reckon it's a 4chan type thing going on? Quantpole (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't really see a pattern, apart from several 157.246.224.xxx at Great Zimbabwe, and Dougweller has protected that. I think Trb2121 is just a silly boy; I nearly blocked him as a VOA, but he hasn't edited since the #3 warning. JohnCD (talk) 22:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
w s brennan
why did you delete the content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.99.19.190 (talk) 03:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I deleted William s brennan because it was a copyright violation of http://www.summitglobal.com/wbrennan.html. Wikipedia cannot accept text copied from other websites unless a formal copyright release has been made - see Wikipedia:Copy-paste. This was explained on the page author's talk page at User talk:Wsbrennan. The page had other problems: it cited no independent references to show notability, and writing about oneself is strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at WP:Autobiography. JohnCD (talk) 10:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello John, Please let me know why did you reverted the information I deleted from K1 and why did you refused the speedy deletion?. I am a lawyer involved in the case and I can tell you that the information provided is not accurated, the information has not been verified and the editor of this article doesn't maintain a neutral point of view about Mr. Frerichs, who died without a trial. Furthermore, by adding the last paragraph to this article you are involving someone who has nothing to do with the subject discussed here, and furthermore, is not true that is the stepdaughter of Mr. Frerichs. Hope you understand my point of view. Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by AFLawyer (talk • contribs) 20:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please see WP:BLP/N#K1 fund and User talk:AFLawyer. This needs to be thrashed out on the article talk page. JohnCD (talk) 22:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you - comment left on talkpage, think we can solve this one quickly! Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Help on Survivor: Redemption Island
I don't know if Survivor is your cup of tea, but I need on a certain user Gbold1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) end his edits on the article I mentioned. He was already warned about adding unsourced info into said article, but he seems to reinstate his edits. His latest now has a source (TVGrapvine), but I don't think it's reliable (and it's in the External Links section as well). Can you help on this guy. BTW, I gave him a level 3 warning, but afterwards, he "reverted" my revert after that. But I don't want to 3RR on the guy. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 11:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- He seems to have stopped. I have pointed him to WP:BRD and WP:3RR and given some advice. JohnCD (talk) 12:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Just a reminder: When declining a G12 (or restoring it) when there's an assertion of permission (such as an OTRS pending tag), please blank it with {{subst:copyvio}} as often the email we receive is unusable. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 21:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up - sorry about that. Has there in fact been any OTRS permission for this? I blocked the author GreenbeltFilms (talk) as an obvious role account, took advice (second part of this conversation) which suggested that the guy is not notable, and was meditating an AfD. JohnCD (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- We have an email, but no usable permission yet. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I'll wait a few days and see what happens. JohnCD (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- We have an email, but no usable permission yet. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Deletion ?
Hello,
you recently put my page up for deletion, (The stride)
Can you help me how to make it more relivant?
Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisfletcher92 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, there is nothing you can do by rewriting to make it more relevant, a band that is "currently writing songs and recording their first EP" is simply not notable enough to have an article in an encyclopedia. See WP:BAND for the requirements - we're talking about a charted song on a national chart, or two albums released on a major label. JohnCD (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Audio Slam Deletion
Why was my article on audio slams deleted? I provided links to the organization that did them and to a news report about it. Is it possible that I could get it back? Rmurphy94 (talk) 12:54, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Crocodillin
Hi John, I see you recently deleted the page on Crocodillin. I'm not the author of that page so I'm not sure what it said, but I'm the scientist who helped to discover the antimicrobial agent that we named "crocodillin". I'm writing to clarify the situation, as the note you've provided as reason for deletion is inaccurate. I've never created a Wiki page before, but I'd be happy to figure it out to establish a credible source of information for this subject as I'm still being asked about it years later (an email today prompted this search). Here's a summary of the situation. I'd be happy to bring this up to Wikipedia standards in terms of citations, including published papers on recent work and news articles referencing the original discovery.
A potent antimicrobial agent was positively identified in crocodile blood (originally Crocodylus porosus and subsequently Crocodylus johnstoni) by Dr Gill Diamond (New Jersey Medical School) in 1998 and 2001, following funding provided by the British Broadcasting Authority (in 1998) and National Geographic (in 2001) to investigate my hypothesis on why crocodiles appeared to show such effective immunological response to bacterial infection. I collected blood samples from wild crocodiles, and Dr Diamond isolated and tested components in the blood using a technique that he had developed. The component that showed strong antimicrobial activity was tested against a variety of bacteria including resistant Staphylococcus aureus ("Golden Staph") where it successfully killed bacteria during each test. The same test was repeated on various samples collected in both 1998 and 2001. Dr Diamond coined this unknown agent "crocodillin" and the entire sequence of events above was documented in the 1999 BBC documentary "Secret Life of Crocodiles" (aka "Crocodile Secrets"). A paper was presented in October 2002 in Florida (Britton 2002) presenting the facts as we knew them at the time, including speculation on the nature of "crocodillin" (an antimicrobial peptide of some description). No further work was done on this peptide after 2001 by Dr Diamond.
Approximately two years after the airing of the 1999 BBC documentary, I began receiving "spam" emails both directly and indirectly through colleagues of a company selling a miracle "Antidote" modeled after our "crocodillin" discovery. The email and a subsequent website clearly cited news articles associated with the 1999 BBC documentary, together with unverified recommendations by unnamed scientists involved in the research (the implication being Dr Diamond and myself) endorsing this product. While it wasn't possible to prove that the "Antidote" was a hoax, the claims being made that associated it with our discovery and our endorsement were false, and the BBC legal team shut down the site. It reappeared numerous times over the following years at a variety of different websites but its associations with "crocodillin" remain untrue. As far as I was informed, the US FDA has on at least one occasion blocked its importation on the grounds that it was not clinically trialled.
Current research on the antimicrobial (and other) properties of crocodile and alligator blood is being conducted primarily by Dr Mark Merchant (McNeese State University, Louisiana). Mark coined the term "alligacin" to refer to his discovery of a similar agent in the blood of the American alligator (Alligator mississippiensis). Mark and I re-examined the antimicrobial peptide found in Crocodylus porosus in 2005 (Merchant and Britton 2006) and published more on its efficacy and function. We referred to the term "crocodillin" in that paper.
In summary, "crocodillin" is not a hoax. It is a name coined in 1998 by Dr Gill Diamond that refers to an antimicrobial peptide discovered in the blood of the saltwater crocodile (Crocodylus porosus), although it has been since been linked to commercial products that are not associated with nor endorsed by the original research.
Britton, A.R.C., Diamond, G., Laube, D. and Kaiser, V., 2002. Antimicrobial activity in the blood of the saltwater crocodile (Crocodylus porosus). [abstract presented by G. Diamond at the 16th Working Meeting of the IUCN/SSC Crocodile Specialist Group, Florida, USA, October 2002]
Merchant, M. and Britton, A.R.C., 2006. Characterization of serum complement activity of saltwater (Crocodylus porosus) and freshwater (Crocodylus johnstoni) crocodiles. Comp. Biochem. Physiol. A Mol. Integr. Physiol. A. 143(4): 488-493
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Dr Adam Britton (abritton@crocodilian.com)
Big Gecko Crocodilian Research, Darwin, Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.26.159 (talk) 02:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'm not JohnCD but I can answer. This was deleted under our proposed deletion system for uncontroversial deletions and such articles can be restored upon request so I have restored it. Future requests for the restoration of PRODed articles can done at requests for undeletion. However, this article still may be deleted at articles for deletion if someone wishes to nominate it. Further note, if you intend to edit this article then please review our conflict of interest guideline first. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
The fact that there are antimicrobial agents in crocodile blood is not in dispute. However an article under the name "crodillin" suggests, that it is a (common) term used by the scientific community to describe those agents and that is the claim in question here. According to the deletion discussionin the German wikipedia, it was pointed out that none of the cited papers actually use the term and and an email by one of the involved researchers basically suggested that the term "crocodillin" as such is just a press hype. Note that a name that one individual researcher might have used in his original paper or in an interview with the press is usually not good enough, but other (secondary) publication and at least parts of the community need to use/adopt the term as well otherwise it is simply not notable (see WP:Notability, WP:OR) and possibly even fringe. The term "hoax" in the deletion proposal might have been a bit ambivalent or msileading. It was not meant as a hoax in the sense of there are no antimicrobial agents or nobody ever used the term "crocodillin" but rather in the sense of implicating that "crocodillin" is a (notable) established term in the scientific community.--Kmhkmh (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- While I was pondering what to do about this, Ron Ritzman (talk) restored it as a contested PROD, and then DragonflySixtyseven (talk) deleted it again saying "Although there do appear to be antimicrobial polypeptides in crocodile blood, there isn't really any serious research that uses this name. Sorry.." I don't really disagree with either of those decisions, but after pondering further I have restored the article and moved it into the Article Incubator at WP:Article Incubator/Crocodillin. I think with Dr. Britton's help there probably is an article here, but it will not in the end be called "Crocodillin" (a) because that term is not a well enough established neologism to satisfy WP:NEO and (b) in order not to give aid and comfort to persons who are apparently peddling quack medicines using the term. I have protected the title "Crocodillin" as an interim precaution. Dr. Britton, I will email you some links and suggestions of how you can help. JohnCD (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Writing a few words about antimicrobial agents or peptides in crocodile blood is certainly ok, but at least for now it should be not under the article name crocodillin until that one has become an established term. Also as long as the amount of the content is as small as the original deleted article it might be worthwhile to consider integrating the information in other already existing articles for crocodiles, (general) antimicrobial agents or antibiotica/antibacterial agents.--Kmhkmh (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, that may be best in the end - let's see what Dr Britton can supply from WP:RS. JohnCD (talk) 23:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Writing a few words about antimicrobial agents or peptides in crocodile blood is certainly ok, but at least for now it should be not under the article name crocodillin until that one has become an established term. Also as long as the amount of the content is as small as the original deleted article it might be worthwhile to consider integrating the information in other already existing articles for crocodiles, (general) antimicrobial agents or antibiotica/antibacterial agents.--Kmhkmh (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for taking the time explaining me how to proceed. Very Best Regards Teresa.jose (talk) 12:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC) Teresa.jose
My userspace!
It says you can work on articles in your userspace till theyre ready. Why do you keep deleting mine? Also, you didntbeven give me enough time to contest deletion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IwantCLEANwater (talk • contribs) 18:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Personal attacks are deleted at sight even in user space. Wikipedia is not for political polemic. More advice on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- dude. It's not a personal attack, I'm going to have sources for all of it and include more. YOu guys dont even give me time to work on it. IwantCLEANwater (talk) 19:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I blocked the above editor as being a sockpuppet of Kenboydhate (talk · contribs). -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your fast response.TucsonDavidU.S.A. 22:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Olivia Grosser
Many thanks for your response to the Olivia Grosser article. I was a little timid in recommending a deletion even though I noted an obvious copyright issue - maybe this was because she looks a tad notable and thought a clean-up and copy-vio material removal might help. I removed all the copy-vio stuff I could find, which left next to nothing, but the article creator, who appeared to me to be the subject herself, reversed my edits. If I may, I might ask for your advice whenever I come across such an article again. Best wishes, Acabashi (talk) 19:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- There is an admin who meets cut-and-pasted articles with this. For cases where a bit more explanation is required I have recently written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard - comments welcome. If the article has potential and you have time to do a rewrite, that is a kind thing to do (but be aware that a substantial rewrite is required, not just tweaking - see Wikipedia:Copy-paste). If the author then re-enters the spammy copy-vio, WP:AGF has gone far enough. When tagging for copyvio, it is certainly good to indicate other problems, as I did at the foot of User talk:Oliviayard: it is unnecessarily BITEy to let them go through the palaver of getting a copyright clearance and then delete it as spam or non-notable. You will find you soon learn, but by all means ask advice if you like, though I don't guarantee a rapid response. JohnCD (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Las Islas Donde Nace La Luna
Hi JohnCD. Thank you for your message. Las Islas Donde Nace La Luna was a tough one. I reluctantly placed CSD:A7 as I couldn't see any context from the article although it has redirects to the author and publisher. But it helps with a second opinion from an expert. A PROD tag will be just as fine with me as I was helping out with new article patrol.--Visik (talk) 01:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Books, software, music don't come under A7, and unless the articles are blatantly promotional should not be tagged G11 either, so for those you often have to go to PROD. If the PROD explains itself clearly, eg with a link to WP:Notability (books), very often the author understands and accepts it and the article quietly goes after a week with no need for AfD. There is good advice for speedy taggers at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hi JohnCD, thanks for your very helpful advice and the internal page WP:A7M, this will finetune my CSD tags whenever I am helping out at NPP in regards to books. This clears up any confusion I had with regards to books, software and other types of articles. --Visik (talk) 01:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Ken Boyd
Hello,
I was working on a non-wikipedia blog post and in the process of searching [4] came across the page you deleted on one of the supervisors (I assume) in my county, Ken Boyd. I just wanted to give you a heads up that I will probably commence work on an article for that supervisor next as I have been working on local political articles (as a resident who is interested in politics, thus my search for a blog post). Out of curiosity, do you mind clarifying why you deleted the article, and also, would you mind looking over Ann Mallek and let me know if you think that it needs to be improved in some way? Just want to make sure everything is kosher when I move into that area.. now back to my blog post. :) WikiManOne 09:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- The entry just above this one, and this talk page, will explain why I deleted the article. Mr Boyd evidently has enemies, or at least an enemy, and I fear an article on him will attract vandalism, but that is not a reason not to write one, carefully following WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. When you popped up the day after all that, I though you must be "Kenboydhate" back again, particularly when I looked at your user page - putting a "banned" notice on your own page seems to me seriously unwise, my first reaction was "no need to answer that, then!" However, I see you are an established editor. Ann Mallek looks fine; I don't know what a "supervisor" is, and I have some doubts myself about whether local politicians are really notable, but as long as you can find enough references which are actually substantial comment rather than just passing mentions you should be OK. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- He is certainly a very polarizing figure in the county. I'm surprised that someone went so far as to create an account with that name, seems rather self-defeating and I agree with your delete (not that it matters). I just wanted to make sure it wasn't for notability or something like that before I started working on a new version. Being in the locale, there are very significant coverage in local news outlets so it shouldn't be a problem establishing notability. Boyd also ran for congress in the previous round unsuccessfully so there should be sources from there. I plan to continue working on the Mallek article for now and hopefully get some collaboration on it and then I will move towards other local figures, possibly Boyd. Whatever I do I will work on it in my userspace first. WikiManOne 10:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- PS: The "banned" notice is a joke, quite probably a misguided one, but I find humor in it when I see it. I think it also cuts down on the number of messages I get.
- One warning: Wikipedia is very resistant to being used for any kind of promotion or campaigning, including election campaigning. For that reason, per WP:POLITICIAN, press references etc arising out of being a candidate are not normally counted towards notability, and you should be very careful not to include in any bios of local politicians anything that looks like campaign statements or propaganda. "Mr X's aim if elected will be to ensure for the good citizens of Blankville an ever-rising standard of..." etc. or even "Mr X is strongly pro-gun/anti-gun/pro-life/pro-death... " unless backed up by reliable sources independent of him and his campaign. JohnCD (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I understand, which is why I am taking extra time to write the supervisor section at Ann Mallek, I want to make sure it maintains NPOV and verifiability. WikiManOne 20:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- One warning: Wikipedia is very resistant to being used for any kind of promotion or campaigning, including election campaigning. For that reason, per WP:POLITICIAN, press references etc arising out of being a candidate are not normally counted towards notability, and you should be very careful not to include in any bios of local politicians anything that looks like campaign statements or propaganda. "Mr X's aim if elected will be to ensure for the good citizens of Blankville an ever-rising standard of..." etc. or even "Mr X is strongly pro-gun/anti-gun/pro-life/pro-death... " unless backed up by reliable sources independent of him and his campaign. JohnCD (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
DNCH
Hey John, man I hope you (or somebody!) can help me.
My name is Daniel Poirier, and I'm being literally shut out from this community (or is it a 'click'?). I've been trying to publish articles about my company (DNCH) and while I understand, to some degree, the validity and the reasons they are being deleted, decent protocol should stand to reason that some discussion should be initiated in regards to those deletions. Yet, here I wait feeling totally ignored by seemingly good folk there at Wikipedia.
If you or anyone you know is able to shed some light on this matter for me I would be indeed grateful.
What am i doing wrong? And how can I rectify it?
Thanks you for your time.
Daniel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzp111 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- (replied on your talk page) JohnCD (talk) 18:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Apparently, I was not supposed to go to sleep last night. </sarcasm> LadyofShalott 22:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- You have seen me on his talk page goaded into being, shall we say, less courteous than I would hope normally to be to a newbie. A really serious case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. JohnCD (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Apparently, I was not supposed to go to sleep last night. </sarcasm> LadyofShalott 22:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Despair_souls
Despair souls shouldn't be deleted and should not because it is a insppiration for all musician and music lover.Despair souls help other musician to know which way we work and fans also love to see our information.So this page also important for our fans and music lovers and musicians.
I request to the administration don't delete this page i had created known as despair souls.And i'm still updating that page...need some time.
my yahoo mail is: pritomkaysar@yahoo.com
- No, sorry, I've explained on our talk page about WP:BAND, and anyway you shouldn't be writing about yourself and your own band. Make them a page on Myspace. JohnCD (talk) 14:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Re
whoops i didnt know sorry! Saturn star (talk) 20:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I was going to prod this, but then thought it should be merged with the University article. No idea how to do this (especially with a pic...), or even if I'm allowed to. Help? I posted this first to JamesBWatson, but he seems to have gone off now. Peridon (talk) 20:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I should PROD it for notability, it doesn't look as though it would be a particularly exciting addition to the University article. Explain gently to the newbie author. JohnCD (talk) 20:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done. I tried to be nice. Peridon (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again
Thanks for responding to help tag on real estate talk page - another lesson for me, cheers Manytexts (talk) 21:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Page deletion - Monash University Faculty of Information Technology Faculty
Dear John,
My name is Jared and work for Monash University. I noticed that you have deleted the page 'Monash University Faculty of Information Technology'. I was curious to know if I could see the page (before it was deleted) somehow? I realise it was a about a year ago (Feb 2010) but I would like to see it and revise the page.
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards, Jmanster9 (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- It was a copy of their website and full of PR-speak. More on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 14:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Dear John,
Many thanks for your detailed reply.
Kind regards, Jmanster9 (talk) 02:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Recent bad page move and bad speedy deletion of graph canonization
See Talk:Graph canonization for a discussion concerning your recent actions. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Replied there. JohnCD (talk) 10:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Isabel ferch Gruffudd
Dear John,
Thanks for your message. Having read the guidelines I see that it's a fair enough deletion. It was Isabel's husband who was involved with Owain Glyndwr, rather than Isabel herself, which leaves her primary notability as being genealogical - it is from her that the Mostyn family of Mostyn, Flintshire trace their descent from Glyndwr's lineage. I suspect that may not go far enough to justify inclusion in Wikipedia. Do let me know if you think otherwise. Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 18:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the ultimate test is the WP:GNG: can you show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" about her, as distinct from her husband? From what you say, probably not. If you think that people might search on her name, maybe a redirect from that to her husband's article would be the way to go. JohnCD (talk) 19:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Egbok mission
Why did you delete EGBOk Mission? Is there a reason why a charitable organization cannot be listed? Also, do you work for wikipedia? I thought this site was user generated. What gives you the power to delete certain articles? Any insight would be appreceiatd. I have seen other charities and companies listed just curious why ours cannot be.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.238.192.8 (talk) 21:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- The reasons were explained on the talk page of user Bryanjustus1 (talk) who submitted the article - it was too promotional, it read like the mission's brochure, all in the first person: "we engage students and motivate them... We constantly encourage service... Our tourism trips bring curious students..." That is an advertisement, not an encyclopedia article, which requires a neutral point of view, and Wikipedia is specifically not for promotion of any kind. In fact, now that I check, I see it was actually copied from the organization's website, which would also have been cause for immediate deletion - we cannot accept copyright text unless a formal legal release is made, which is seldom worth doing because material written for other purposes is not often suitable.
- Also, it gave no indication that the organization meets Wikipedia's requirement of notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."
- These links may help to explain things:
- No, I am not an employee of Wikipedia: it doesn't have any, everyone is a volunteer. Wikipedia is run by the community of its users and editors (those two terms mean the same) according to standards they have agreed. A few hundred of us are "administrators" who the community has trusted with some extra tools, including the ability to delete unsuitable articles, not on our own whim but according to defined criteria.
- If, having read those links, you think you can write an acceptable article about the mission, you are very welcome to. You will need to register an account, you can use the WP:Article wizard to help you, and advice is available at the WP:Help desk. JohnCD (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Set It Off (Strafe)
Hello John, I'm just trying to update some information about Strafe. I'm confuse as to why I can't post his bio. This is his office that is posting informtion about him. Maybe you can explain how I need to post his bio. I know I originally had our website at the bottom and I also had the date we revised the bio, I did remove it. I'm thinking I should have removed those items before posting. Please advise me what I should do to repost his information. Also can you please explain what facebook have to with posting Strafe bio. on wikiepida. (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Strafe/283309375347?v=info)
Thank you, Sharon T — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ms.Sharon T (talk • contribs) 01:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you have not understood what Wikipedia is. It is not another site like Facebook or Myspace for people to post their own promotional bios; it is a project to build an encyclopedia, which is something quite different. See User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard.
- As you represent Strafe, you have from our point of view a conflict of interest in writing about him - see WP:Autobiography for why that is strongly discouraged and WP:BESTCOI for the restrictions you would need to observe if you want to proceed. More advice on your talk page later; meanwhile look at WP:Your first article.
- The Facebook reference is because the same information appears on that Facebook page labelled "Facebook © 2011". Copyright can give Wikipedia serious legal problems; we cannot accept copyright text on the basis that someone on the end of a wire says it's OK. It is necessary for the copyright holder to make a formal release as described at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. But that is not usually worth doing because material written for other purposes is usually too promotional and doesn't show the necessary significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. JohnCD (talk) 18:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi JohnCD
Please undelete the above-captioned encyclopedia entry. The group was the subject of a full-length article in The New Yorker, an article that was cited in the entry. I believe I created the article, and wasn't notified of its nomination for deletion. If (despite its obviously meeting GNG) you find the topic is not clearly suited to inclusion in article space, please userify it for me.
Regards, Bongomatic 14:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.
Done - userfied to User:Bongomatic/Van Dykes. As it stood, the one-sentence article didn't make the "credible assertion of importance or significance" required to pass A7, particularly as the only reference was behind a paywall. I have found and substituted a non-paywall link to the New Yorker article, and it looks as though there is an article there, though it needs at least a sentence or to to say why they were significant, and preferably more references. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- WP:ORG and WP:GNG don't require "assertion" of notability, and in any case, a reference is a (perhaps backhanded) assertion of meeting the guidelines. Thanks for taking the time to find the non-paywall version of the article (which, as I noted on the talk page, exceeds 6,000 words—200x some editors' idea of the appropriate threshold for "significant coverage"). Regards, Bongomatic 15:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Speedy tag
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Thanks for the action at User:Shashankmani!! Didn't know what deletion criteria that fell under, so now I know. Thanks for the effort and keep up the good work! LTC b2412 Troops Talk 05:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
- Thank you, but I am a little embarrassed by this barnstar because, actually, that G2 deletion was just slightly dodgy, and you shouldn't take it as a precedent. Generally, a good deal of latitude is allowed for user pages, and unsuitable ones normally have to be dealt with by WP:MfD (apart from G10 attack, G11 advertisement or G12 copyright pages). WP:FAKEARTICLE is a valid objection, but not a speedy reason. It was just that in this case the page was (a) a straight copy of an article, (b) untouched for six months, and (c) the user's only-ever edits; so I decided that I could use G2 test page ((with a sprinkling of WP:IAR) to speedy it. There is good advice about speedy tagging at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. JohnCD (talk) 11:22, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well I looked everywhere, and it was sort of the same way to me. I couldn't delete under this that or the other, so I called in a more experienced administrator. I don't deal with deletions, I just happened to find that page thru a link from an image that was formerly on that page. I guess in this case the barnstar is more being bold and giving guidance rather than just guidance. I plan to help deal with conflict resolution, and work on articles i'm interested in or other contributions. Anyways, the barnstar is for your guidance, boldness, and experience. :) LTC b2412 Troops Talk 20:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you anyway! JohnCD (talk) 20:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well I looked everywhere, and it was sort of the same way to me. I couldn't delete under this that or the other, so I called in a more experienced administrator. I don't deal with deletions, I just happened to find that page thru a link from an image that was formerly on that page. I guess in this case the barnstar is more being bold and giving guidance rather than just guidance. I plan to help deal with conflict resolution, and work on articles i'm interested in or other contributions. Anyways, the barnstar is for your guidance, boldness, and experience. :) LTC b2412 Troops Talk 20:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Waste Management
I no longer need the recent sandbox i created at User:Buster7/Sandbox/Palin skerfuffle. can you get rid of it???? Was this the correct manner in which to create a rather lenghthy edit off article site and the cut and paste to the article??? In this case it was Talk:Sarah Palin. thanks for the help.Buster Seven Talk 20:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be anything at that title, but you can always get rid of any of your own user pages by putting {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} at the top - the next passing admin will delete it. Yes it's fine to use a sandbox to prepare stuff and check it out before copying and pasting it to where you want it, I do it all the time. JohnCD (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Zach Torp page
It was a page about a rising athlete and a friend of mine. I made this site for a wikipedia project in college. I see no reason for its deletion and i expect a response if not the reopening of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mturner5 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but being a rising athlete is not enough for a Wikipedia article - see WP:NSOCCER for the notability standard for soccer players; and before writing about your friend, you should read WP:COI. JohnCD (talk) 10:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Burkett Restaurant Equipment & Supplies
Hello. The entry was not meant to be a form of advertisement by any means. I just took the information off of our About Us section of our website. Please let me know what can be done to rectify this issue. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwitchTup (talk • contribs) 20:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you have completely misunderstood what Wikipedia is: it is a collaborative project to build an encyclopedia, it is not a place for companies to post copies of their websites; and if you think that "friendly and knowledgeable staff... dedicated Customer Service team... unique refurbishing process... Benefits of Shopping with Burkett... Earn Burkett Bucks with every purchase..." is not "a form of advertisement", I'm not sure we are on the same planet. I will post some more information on your talk page soon, but start with User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard and WP:Conflict of interest. JohnCD (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Y are you deleting those black scientist pages that not right
thats messed up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.14.115 (talk) 22:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- What pages do you mean? JohnCD (talk) 22:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Global Collect page content
Dear John, I've written a (new) page for GlobalCollect.
[[5]]
Can you approve this page of send me some feedback, if required?
Thanks a lot!
Best regards,
Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marky555 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Tomorrow! JohnCD (talk) 22:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Antoni Robinson
I am not sure why you deleted this page? I was still updating this (fairly new to creating pages on Wikipedia) - you have said that it isn't important but it is the first instance of two daughters being convicted of murdering their father in the UK for decades.
Was it my dodgy editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northwales4u (talk • contribs) 15:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing wrong with your editing, it's the subject. Sensational is not the same as encyclopedically notable. This crossed with explanation on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 15:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Speedy
Hi John,
I don't want to take the matter up again. The problem I had was with the incorrect regeneration of the page when it became notable, which was also encouraged by a fellow admin. As far as I'm aware the best pratice is to ask who ever deleted it to restore it. It has not happened thus far and one of you fellow admins is partly responsable for the mess and should be aware of the protocles and didn't follow it. Happy editing KnowIG (talk) 18:32, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Humanzee (band)
Why did you delete my band page Humanzee (band), when I requested time to update the article and add pics and hyperlinks? I requested time to do this and it was deleted within minutes. Have I fell foul of some kind of ludicrously tight censorship procedure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesarpc (talk • contribs) 13:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, what you have fallen foul of is the fact that, as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is selective about its subjects (unlike, say, Myspace); it only covers things that are already established. The standard is called notability and what that means for bands is explained at WP:BAND. From what you wrote, it's clear that Humanzee, who were only formed this year and "are currently working on new material", are nowhere near that standard (yet), so there is no point letting you waste time on adding to the article. See WP:Your first article for more advice. JohnCD (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Ishq Bector page deleted
Hi John
This is Rukmini from India.
I was trying to make a wiki page for this person but it got deleted immediately. Apparently it falls in the A7 category. The artist is well known in India and Canada and has a big fan following who constantly look him up on the internet. There are almost 9900 people searching for this name on the internet. His famous song "Aye Hip Hopper" has 5,400 searches. Ishq bector songs have 2,400 searches.
He has also acted in some Indian movies and made television appearances.
Please help out with the current issue of deletion.
Regards, Rukminikunjithai (talk) 14:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Rukmini Kunjithai
Wiki page for an artist- Ishq Bector
This is in reference with the Wikipage for Musician and Artist IshQ Bector. We are his representation and this is our first attempt to make a wikipage for him. We understand that earlier attempts have been flagged as blatant advertising, those attempts in our opinion were made by the artist's fans.
We are new to wikipedia and are failing to understand why our page is being deleted in spite of having reference material to support the facts.
The artist is well known in India and Canada and has a fan following who regularly look him up on the internet for more information on him.
He has produced and released multiple videos like Aye Hip Hopper, Jhagde and others.[1] and has already given music to a couple of Bollywood Movies like Allah Ke Bandey, Ugli Aur Pagli, Mission Istanbul, hello and others [1]
We request you to guide us in this process, we do not want to misuse the availability of this platform and realize the importance of the strict monitoring.
Some reference material on him
Last.fm Desihits.com Bollywoodhumgama.com
--Rukminikunjithai (talk) 15:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- I will give advice on your talk page within a day. JohnCD (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello JohnCD! - Page Andrew Alexander Price
I read your "Whydeleted" page and I think that you may can help me. I am new to Wikipedia so of course I am still learning (and I'm sure we're your worst!). I believe my page "Andrew Alexander Price" was flagged for (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject). I believe with proper time I will be able to provide plenty of sources that should be acceptable (I am assuming proper sources are the majority of the problem to this rule). I do not mind working on it in sandbox mode at all if it can somehow be restored through there. Do you have any suggestions for me? If I do get the page to Wikipedia standards can someone else flag me down later when it's fixed? Thank you very much!
SavvieChick (talk) 01:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have userfied the page for you to User:SavvieChick/Andrew Alexander Price, though it seems unlikely to me that he is notable in Wikipedia's sense. More advice on your talk page soon. JohnCD (talk) 14:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
My salary.com article was deleted
Dear Sir:
My article for Salary.com was deleted, even though the company is a major and leading provider of compensation information for companies around the United States of America. Can we please have the article submitted to Articles for Deletion where a broad discussion of the article's importance can be conducted among a broader variety of users?
Thank you very much.
JAX_0677 --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have userfied the article for you to User:Jax 0677/Salary.com where you can develop it. As it stands, it gives no indication of notability in Wikipedia's sense: you need to show ""significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." JohnCD (talk) 15:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Jorts Day
I see that you have recently deleted the page "Jorts Day". Jorts Day is a day that an Organization is looking to start up so it would be appreciated if you would let the page remain intact. Have a nice day!! :) Tannerb41465 (talk) 23:33, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but Wikipedia isn't for helping to promote new things - an encyclopedia only reports on things that are already established. See Wikipedia is not for things made up one day, especially the section on Scrabble. JohnCD (talk) 10:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
i might not have been clear in my recent message, jorts day IS an already established tradition at the local colleges in the area, the organization was looking to start up a wikipedia page for it.
Tannerb41465 (talk) 08:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- What we mean by "established" is WP:Notability, shown by "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." More on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Kunal Majumder
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png)
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
- By that time, he might already have changed his job citing his dedicated page on Wikipedia as a proof of his "importance" in the world. The decision is yours now. :) Boolyme बूलीमी Chat बोलो!! 15:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- I am going to put a level 3 warning for using Wikipedia for promotions and advertising on all the contributors' talkpage. Boolyme बूलीमी Chat बोलो!! 15:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Additionally, the creator of this article, Anshuman Chaurasia tried to create his own page 2 years back but it was deleted. See the warning on his talk page. I would again request you to immediately delete this page as all of us here don't want Wikipedia to be a tool for building notability for resume. I hope you would understand my point. Boolyme बूलीमी Chat बोलो!! 15:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Scéno Plus (Business/Organizations Categorie)
Dear John,
I wrote a very concise description of the company called Scéno Plus. I'm in conflict of interest so I decided to be very brief before going any further. I guess you would remember that you already post comments on my talk page and you gave me some tips to make my article more encyclopedic.
Founded in 1985, Scéno Plus is a Montreal-based entertainment design firm. It specializes in the design of cultural and recreational venues such as multidisciplinary spaces, small creative studios, circus theatres, concert halls, large-capacity theatres, cinemas, convention centres, event centres and multipurpose halls. The firm provides five integrated services: architecture, theatre design, interior design, technology and specialized equipment as well as multimedia immersion and interactivity.
http://livedesignonline.com/mag/show_business_fit_queen/
http://fohonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2503&Itemid=1
Let me know what you think. Thank you John. Charles TD (talk) 19:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm out of time - comment tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Looks OK to me - since you have independent sources for them, you could maybe add mention of some of their projects. Given your COI, the thing to do now is propose the article at WP:Articles for creation, mentioning your interest; either it will be accepted or you will be given more feedback. JohnCD (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you John. I appreciate your feedback. As requested, I'll submit the article at WP:Articles for creation and will see how it goes. Thanks again for your time.Charles TD (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Smoke DZA
Smoke DZA is a very popular hip hop artists on the east coast. I notice this happens a lot to hip hop artists. It happened to several friends of mine in Texas as well. Since you obviously do not care to do your research I will do you this one time favor.
Here is my 30 secs of googling....I applaud you on your thoroughness John!
from his artist page:
Smoke DZA's own spiel from his Myspace page
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Hip-hop is just a hobby for some. For Smoke DZA, it is a way of life Born and raised in Harlem, NY, Smoke DZA (born Sean Pompey) was raised surrounded by music, though it wasn’t necessarily hip-hop, "My first exposure to music was through my Dad," he reflects, "He played his oldies every weekend and still does up to this day." DZA was introduced to, and fell in love with, hip hop at a young age and began a journey that would lead him from dropping out of high school to becoming one of the hottest, most sought after unsigned rappers in the game today. "I was way too popular in high school," DZA states. "I used to battle everyone whether it be in the lunchroom or in front of the school. I was way more interested in that than attending classes." This desire to express himself lead to many performances at his neighborhood’s Police Athletic League where he quickly established himself as a talent to be recognized. The positive response from his friends and family was the catalyst for pursuit of a career in music. His early creative processes started where many rappers do, with the lyrical genius of Notorious B.I.G. "I remember learning all of Biggie’s verses, writing them down and making my own renditions of the songs. After I got out [of] that phase I started crafting my own songs, like 'History,' where I spoke about destroying any rapper lyrically, and I wrote a song called 'Music On My Side' which was an ode to any artist that influenced me to do music, Jay-Z, Biggie, Big L, etc," says DZA. As DZA’s focus and talent grew, he began to release mixtapes, like the early Respeconize and even formed a group with a childhood friend call Smoke & Numbers before setting out for solo success by signing with Cinematic Music Group in 2005 and partnering with GFCnewyork in 2009. Over the course of his burgeoning musical career, DZA has already recorded with a wide array of artists such as Asher Roth, Big K.R.I.T., Devin The Dude, and Curren$y. In the past two years, DZA has released a steady stream of mixtapes to critical acclaim, including Substance Abuse (2009), Substance Abuse 1.5: The Headstash (2010), and his most recent project, George Kush Da Button which is quickly making it’s way around the internet. DZA credits his longevity to creating laidback, honest music that people can vibe to and always staying true to the art of hip-hop. With all of the disposable music threatening the culture of an art form he is trying to help preserve, Smoke DZA is a welcome breath of fresh air that will make you grateful for the contact high. |
And from last.fm
Hip Hop artist based in Harlem, New York. Smoke Dza often references movies and marijuana with his slow laid back style of rap. His mixtape entitled “Substance Abuse” was released on December 1st 2009, Featuring: Devin the Dude, June Summers, Nipsey Hussle and many more. In the summer of 2010 he released another mixtape ‘George Kush Da Button’ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.133.142 (talk) 18:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article contained no text at all, just an infobox which said "Smoke DZA Genres: Hip hop Occupations: Rapper". If a contributor doesn't think their subject is worth writing even one sentence about, the article is likely to be speedily deleted. In any case, what you have provided here - his own Myspace page plus Last.fm saying he has released two mixtapes - does not nearly show that he reaches Wikipedia's notability requirement for a performer to have an article, which is explained at WP:MUSICBIO. If you think you can show that he meets that, you're welcome to write an article, but read WP:Your first article first and don't think you can do it just by copying the Myspace page - that's too promotional, and you will need to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." JohnCD (talk) 19:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thank you .. i believe that the article is relevant.. maybe i think i did not write it so well!! could you please give me some advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gioesposito (talk • contribs) 08:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- The problem is not with your writing (though of course it would need translating into English), but with the subject: I am afraid that Ms Speranza has not (yet) achieved enough to meet Wikipedia's notability requirement. It seems that she has done modelling, has appeared in Italian Playboy, and is working on a record. The references provided were nearly all about the Playboy appearance or were her model-agency listings. Compare with WP:MUSICBIO, WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:PORNBIO which are relevant notability standards here.
- I see that the article was deleted from Italian Wikipedia as "Contenuto palesemente non enciclopedico o promozionale" so their view is the same. JohnCD (talk) 23:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
in reference to the delecting of the Kill the Idol Page.
I am a Fan of Kill The Idol. They pose no threatto society, I am just publising the band through this article in order to hype up the release of there mew EP which is soon to be released in order to inform new fans of the history of the Band how they got were they are and were they plan to go. yours faithfully Joseph Brennan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephb01 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, you want to hype up their EP, but Wikipedia is not for promotion of any kind; and as an encyclopedia we only report on bands (or people, or things) that are already established - see WP:BAND for what a band need to have achieved before they can have an article. "Still working on their first EP" is far too soon. Their fans can read about them on Myspace. JohnCD (talk) 18:18, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Nemerle
Thanks for the cleanup. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- No worries. One of the interesting things about being an admin is never knowing which apparently routine piece of mop-wielding will blow up in your face and consume a week of your life; but in this case you surely knew you were walking into a minefield. I admire your courage in taking it on.
- It has reminded me of an idea I had before, as a possible procedure for dealing with a situation like this: if an AfD is going off the rails, any admin should be able to declare "Abort." The AfD is closed, the article is not deleted, all SPA contributors to the debate (or maybe better, all contributors) are sent a short guide to how Wikipedia works, how AfDs work, arguments to use and not to use; there is a pause of, say two weeks (to allow passions to cool); then the AfD is restarted from scratch. Do you think that is worth proposing? JohnCD (talk) 22:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- You can give it a shot -- I'm not optimistic, but it would be very useful on occasion... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Brian J. Tessier Esq
John, I can see that the point to the HRC deletion, but the We Hear The Children is My foundation, Please let me know how I can make this go through. This is not promotional it is factual......any assistance would be helpful! Thanks! I own all the right to We Hear The Children as well as all my books. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntentionalFather (talk • contribs) 19:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
- I will give more advice tomorrow, but to start read User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard. JohnCD (talk) 22:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
The Admin's Barnstar
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For making hoaxes a specialty. DThomsen8 (talk) 14:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC) |
- Thank you. If undetected they do a lot of harm, but it is fun winkling them out. It's surprising how much trouble people go to - have a look at my last two hoax AfDs, Jonathan L. Langer and Curtis James. JohnCD (talk) 22:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Early in my Wikipedia editing, I encountered a fake Spanish football player article. At first, I thought it was poorly done, but someone else proved that it was entirely a hoax. Spring Grover did not sound right to me. It wasn't right. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Topic: Grimmeh
Why was my page deleted? S: It wasn't an attack page, it was about myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exculpate (talk • contribs) 14:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, you said your subject was "entirely full of himself", and enjoys "putting the part of being racist with his mile long ego". That sounded like an attack to me. Anyway, this is a serious project to build an encyclopedia, not a social-networking site for people to write about themselves and their friends. There are links on your talk page to tell you more. JohnCD (talk) 17:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Reasoning With Rage
OI BELLEND STOP DELETING MY PAGES..... REASONING IN WITH RAGE ARE A BAND.... WHY CAN'T WE MAKE A PAGE EH? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShamwowLovesMuse (talk • contribs) 16:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- Because this is a serious encyclopedia, not a place for people to write about themselves and their bands. See WP:BAND for what a band need to have achieved before they can have an article here. Why not make yourselves a Myspace page? JohnCD (talk) 17:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm wondering why you deleted this redirect. This discussion seems to suggest that, at best, there is no consensus for such a move. I'm intrigued as to how the user involved is now meant to find their submission - especially as they may not even be aware yet that it was made a AFC (in lieu of an RM which they started in error). Dpmuk (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I had no idea there was a problem here - I see these quite often, tagged G6 (as this one was) or R3, and thought they were an artifact of the way the AfC system worked. Surely it is up to whoever moves the article into the AfC system to tell its author where it now is and why? JohnCD (talk) 21:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- I realise it's pretty common and that discussion was hardly conclusive and that's why I only asked for your reasoning rather than asking you to revert. I only noticed this one as I was the one to place the AFC tag in lieu of a requested move and aren't really that involved in AFC so I'm not sure what the best solution is . Oh well, no real harm done. Dpmuk (talk) 21:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Stalking
Thanks for the revert! --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- My pleasure. My finger was on the block button, but Favonian was quicker on the draw. JohnCD (talk) 21:17, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
kk thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semajnamyts (talk • contribs) 23:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this person seems to have contested your PROD, so I've AfDed the article. I have a strong feeling that this is a copyvio of something, but I haven't found anything yet; I'll keep looking. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 06:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have !voted. I doubt it has been published anywhere else - it's a research proposal, not the result of the research. JohnCD (talk) 09:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Premotion of Affairs and mariage break down
Hi John,
This article is advertising and premoting a derogatory site trying to premote affairs. It is not of any interest and should not be an entry in an encloypedia. The fact that some guy started it and has they're name there doesnt mean it should have entry in to the encylopedia or does it warrant this. It is just site promotion!!!
If its not removed I will taking it furthehr and contacting the main editors and organisations who do not promote marriage break downs like relate to lobby this
Steve - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.71.36 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 17 February 2011
- The article you mean, Illicitencounters.com, is neutrally-worded, not promotional, and adequately sourced. I have again declined your G11 speedy deletion nomination. It is not speediable: if you want to get it deleted, you will have to nominate it at WP:Articles for deletion, but first read Wikipedia is not censored. JohnCD (talk) 17:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you so much!
Thanks for your help about cats! I hope we meet soon again. Thanks, --Sainsf<^> (talk) 17:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Site promotion of Marital Affair Site
Hi John,
Please can you say why this is not promotion the fact it is on there with link to articles they have published say on PRpublishing is not self promotional etc ?.
So basically what your saying is that I had some Peado site and I put it on here to links to published data you would allow it in the encylopedia ?
I think not so why do the same to some self promoting discusting site thats just out for some free self promotion ?
If you do agree with it your as sick as them and will be taking this a lot further. I suggest you delete the page and ban it before this escalates and Wikipedia gets a bad image for promoting Marriage breakdowns.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.71.36 (talk • contribs) February 2011
- (Presumably re. Illicitencounters.com Chzz ► 17:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC))
- Wikipedia is neutral; we make no judgement over whether something is good, bad, insane, evil, morally repugnant, or anything else. All that concerns us is, if there is substantial coverage in reliable sources.
- You tagged that article for "speedy deletion", under criterion G11 - "Pages that are exclusively promotional, and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic". Please note - exclusively promotional. Speedy deletion is only for pages which are absolutely without any merit - mostly, vandalism.
- You also blanked the page, which is not appropriate. If you mark a page for some speedy deletion, then you should leave it in-place, whilst an administrator checks it and sees if it meets the requirement. (The exception to that is, for 'attack pages', which should be blanked immediately)
- After the speedy deletion was declined, you should not have reinstated it; instead, if you felt the article did not meet the correct standards, you could have submitted it to the articles for deletion process. Please, never enter an 'edit war'. Instead, if others object to your edits, stop, and discuss them.
- Please take the time to read WP:NOTCENSORED, and WP:PILLAR. Thanks, Chzz ► 17:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, this is about Illicitencounters.com, and started two items above. Chzz has explained things well. I have nothing to add except to say that describing the site is not the same as promoting it, and to repeat that if you want to try to get the article deleted, your only route is WP:Articles for deletion, where you would need to present arguments in terms of Wikipedia's policies, not simply WP:IDONTLIKEIT. JohnCD (talk) 18:02, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Just dropped by to say thanks for deleting all subpages I requested. And for all the work you do to keep this place tidy and clean, cheers! Yazan (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- No worries. U1 deletions are quite restful - no need to think, just check the tag really was placed by the owner! JohnCD (talk) 21:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
On the Deletion Review of the page about Lorenzo Iorio
Ok, John. I've rewrote it as suggested by the other admins. Please, take a look and send me your comments. Thank you Michoball (talk) 21:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- It will be tomorrow before I have time. I hope you will forgive me for editing your message at the DRV to add a link to the draft page, so that other readers can find it easily. DGG (talk) is the best person for articles like this - I see you have asked him too, good. JohnCD (talk) 21:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Switchover Media
Hi, why did you cancel switchover media page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rokbaba (talk • contribs) 11:58, 17 February 2011
Michel Nischan
John,
I'm new to Wikipedia but wanted to post information on Michel Nischan as he is a leader in the sustainable food movement. I understand the reason for the deletion of the page was due to copyright infringement and I believe that was due to including website information. Can I start a new page with factual and background information only?
Melissa Mphoffman55 (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, certainly, but first read carefully the links in the paragraph of advice at the bottom of your talk page, especially the need for independent references to establish notability; and avoid promotional language and what we call "peacock terms". JohnCD (talk) 20:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I went with my gut.
"A game that combines 2 of my greatest loves Drinking & Gambling" and "Try it out and let me know of any alterations." seemed like "chat-like" comments to me, so... HalfShadow 18:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think A3's "chat-like comments" is more for "Hi, Tyler, this is fun isn't it?" or "You ****s why did you delete my page?" This guy didn't understand NOR or NFT or encyclopedic tone, but he was trying to make an article. JohnCD (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Please, JohnCD, help me with the other admin in the deletion review for Lorenzo Iorio!
JohnCD, please come and read what that admin Jay writes!! It is totally absurd! He refures to read what I wrote!! He ask me to..demonstrate that Iorio was born in 1971 and that he lives in Bari!!!! He did not read anything about what I wrote about NASA ADS, bibliometry, and so on! He still asks me to prove those information with reliable secondary sources!!!! Michoball (talk) 19:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have commented at the DRV; but, yes, reliable secondary sources are important. It will save you time and trouble to read WP:Verifiability and WP:No original research carefully, they are vital to understanding how Wikipedia works. JohnCD (talk) 22:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Userpage deletion
I wanted to let you know that I have just closed an MfD by speedying User:Lilbit411, a page that you had previously declined to speedy. To a certain extent, the issue had become moot because the page content was already replaced by an indefblocked-user tag, but I still found that the contents of the userpage was so offensive, disruptive, and trollish that deletion was required as a matter of principle. (See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Billy Ego-Sandstein for discussion of relevant principles.) Because this reversed an action (or inaction) of yours, I thought I should give you a heads-up. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:12, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- No problem; thank you for letting me know. I read the ArbCom case with interest: this one was slightly different, because Billy Ego included long political text as well as symbols on his user page. My decision that this one should go to a deletion discussion was due to extreme reluctance to start down the slippery slope of censorship. JohnCD (talk) 16:01, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Strikeland Brotherhood Sisterhood
Sir,
I am CajJ amigo one of the founders of Strikeland Brotherhood Sisterhood Inc. I want to add my article to wikipedia. Strikeland Brotherhood Sisterhood Inc. is a fraternal organization in the Philippines. Thank you sir. Strikelandbsi (talk) 12:32, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
About a speedy delete
You just completed a speedy deletion for a move on Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. and I was just a moment too slow to stop it. (I was trying to read up on what the procedure would be.) The move had been made previously and the editor replaced the redirect with the text. I'm afraid that significant edit history was removed in the deletion. I hope it is still possible to reverse.Novangelis (talk) 14:59, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. This was a classic case where action on my part should have taken precedence over protocol. Rather than read up on the appropriate use, I should have just placed the {{hang on}} tag and apologized if I was out of order, later.Novangelis (talk) 15:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- There's a problem: I have restored it with its history, but we now have a messy situation because user 83d40m (talk · contribs) apparently objected to the move, and has done a cut-and-paste to Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr., M.D. which s/he is now developing. I can put them back together, but can we agree on which title to use? JohnCD (talk) 15:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think that protocol would be either Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. or Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. (physician). I would suggest that the short form be used and if another article is to be written about a person with the same name, at that point the move should be made to the longer version, freeing up the name for the disambiguation page.Novangelis (talk) 15:25, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry about the cut and paste, could find no better solution -- and no path to ask such a question in the midst of my attempt to resolve the problem I saw created by the title change. Tried several changes to correct, but they did not work. (I also noticed that the change of title had even obliterated any record of the creator of the article and deleted it from my editing records. That seems a glitch that warrants mending. I left a note at one location.) Please merge all of the records. If it is unconventional to use the degree, as I created it, I would prefer the second title suggested, Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. (physician), since, unfortunately, there are other members of the family using a Jr. (in different branches, all using the same traditional name -- such as the racecar driver, who is identified as a Jr. also). So, since all records become obliterated in a title change -- I would prefer to see the parenthetical identifier now as I do intend to create more articles about the members of this family with deep historical roots to Manhattan and its Dutch settlers. There will be three Fredericks and two bearing Jr. it seems (his father is another son of the subject of this article and is a F.T. also). Please advise if I may be of any further assistance on this. I will refrain from editing further until you notify me that all has been resolved. _ _ _ _83d40m (talk) 19:57, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, all fixed, the history-merged article is at Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. (physician) and the others redirect to it. When you make any more, you will have to do some disambiguating. I suggest you put a note on the talk page to say why you want "physician" in the title, to discourage anyone from trying to take it out again in line with normal practice. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks -- will take a look at what you have fixed and follow your suggestion regarding a comment on the talk page regarding the title. I also will look for the "move" button and make note of the process. _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 21:15, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- There's a problem: I have restored it with its history, but we now have a messy situation because user 83d40m (talk · contribs) apparently objected to the move, and has done a cut-and-paste to Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr., M.D. which s/he is now developing. I can put them back together, but can we agree on which title to use? JohnCD (talk) 15:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
On the h-index and g-index of Lorenzo Iorio
...Now Jay says that computing the h-index and the g-index is not elementary....Michoball (talk) 17:17, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Tip
Thanks for the tip, I was using Twinkle, that's why. Crystal Linux Talk to Crystal Linux... 20:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
The Skimmity Hitchers Page
Ummm ... why did you delete the page. It took me ages to do that page and you just delete with a click of button?? Bit harsh i think. Can i have an explaination or a copy of the text i created?? If i knew you would delete without thinking i would have backed it up!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlyjayne (talk • contribs) 20:30, 20 February 2011
- Text emailed. JohnCD (talk) 22:14, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Why did you Move Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. to Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr. (physician)? Article titles are not supposed to contain disambiguations unless there's more than one person known as Frederick T. van Beuren, Jr.. Since ther isn't, it was perfectly fine where it was. Corvus cornixtalk 21:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- See User talk:JohnCD#About a speedy delete (five items above here). A confused situation arose with two versions, one having a non-standard "M.D." on the end: since user 83d40m (talk) plans another article about a different F T van B Jr, it seems reasonable to let the disambiguating "(physician)" be in place now, to avoid more moving and link-rearranging later. JohnCD (talk) 22:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Ah. OK, thanks. Corvus cornixtalk 07:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
What can I do, now
Hi, JohnCD. You see the situation...What should I do with this guy? Is there some form of higher level of appeal? How is it possible that a purely personal and highly questionable interpretation by an admin abusing his power can have an impact? Please, help, advice or act. Michoball (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- The DRV is a debate: you do not have to win every argument about every point with every contributor to the debate. The outcome will be decided after seven days by an uninvolved administrator (when one can be found with the patience to read through all those walls of text). Make your point, and then leave it; concentrate on making the article (which the closing administrator will look at) as good as you can. JohnCD (talk) 22:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Romanko
Good call, and you read my mind about my (weak) concern accurately. Have a great weekend! --j⚛e deckertalk to me 23:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
deleted "Becoming (album)" actually by artist selling 600,000 units
JohnCD,
"Becoming (album)" is a solo project by Christine Denté. She seems to meet the requirements of "notable":
- Sold more than 600,000 units for the first five albums See the press release from their then label: http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=16116 . - Have 10 #1 radio singles: http://www.ccmmagazine.com/news/stories/11535098/out%20of%20the%20grey/ - Is on CCM Magazine's list of 25 albums to have from the 90s: http://www.ccmmagazine.com/news/stories/11534265/out%20of%20the%20grey/ - Named on of the "100 Greatest Albums in Christian Music" in book of the same name (2001) - Made it on "hits" compilations of Christian music, eg "WOW 1996:The year's 30 top Christian artists and songs" - Get reviewed by the real press, eg Dallas Morning News, Feb 03, 1999, Item # 4N67702446894994; Billboard, 9/8/2001, Vol. 113 Issue 36, p34
This seems to make her "notable". While having albums in Wikipedia is probably stupid, both of the arguments for deleting it are untrue. Her later albums (of which this is one) may be not notable because of declining sales, but artists with hit records probably make the cut. That is a very different and more nuanced argument.
Also, the argument that someone is not notable because they do not have a Wikipedia entry is circular and seems to prove the complaint that Wikipedia is not a reasonable source of truth. Saying that the album entry requires first an artist entry makes more sense.
Regards,
manasclerk (talk) 20:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)Manasclerk
- It's not so much "She's not notable because she doesn't have a WP article" as "If she were notable, she probably would have one." As an artist becomes known, it makes more sense to start with an article about the artist rather than one about an album; if they make it big, articles about individual albums may become worth it.
- In this case, the duo of which she forms part has an article, so I guess that qualifies, and the album article shouldn't have been speedy-deleted for the reason given. I have restored it.
- However, as you say, articles on individual albums may not make much sense, especially if there's little to say about them except a track listing; I see no evidence that this one meets the notability standard for albums, WP:NALBUMS, which says: "In general, if the musician or ensemble is notable, and if the album in question has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources, then their officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." (My emphasis). This may very well get nominated for deletion by a more deliberate process. If you are interested in it, see whether you can find sources. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The Karachi City Rockers listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect The Karachi City Rockers. Since you had some involvement with the The Karachi City Rockers redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Cordless Larry (talk) 01:29, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Greater Saxonia
Its a micronation and we are real the article was under construction thats why it looked empty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfie9000 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's not enough to be real, to have a Wikipedia article your micronation would have to be notable, which would need to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Read Wikipedia is not for things made up one day, which explains it well. JohnCD (talk) 15:02, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Rocco Borghese
Hi, i have been working on building up the Rocco Borghese profile to wikipedia and has been deleted by yourself , i read that you specify in wikipedia hoaxes? , im stating the facts about Mr Borghese why have i been deleted ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocco Borghese (talk • contribs) 14:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- This is nothing to do with hoaxes: I deleted your page as a blatant advertisement. I have explained on your talk page that Wikipedia is not for any kind of promotion, and that editing with a conflict of interest and writing about oneself are strongly discouraged. JohnCD (talk) 14:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Rocco Borghese !
Hi John i have just checked and understood the reason for deletion ,i am well are that we should not advertise in any form shape or manner , if i have done so it was not intentional . as there many interesting stories on individual artists around the world, Rocco Borghese is also very invdividual and has a very intresting background ,and i would guess he falls under the heading that is acceptable to wikipedia omitting any kind of publicity or advertising would you therefore alow me to resubmit another version of his story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocco Borghese (talk • contribs) 15:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is possible, but it would have to be quite different from the articles you have been submitting. Wait until I provide some advice on your talk page, probably not until tomorrow. Start by reading WP:YFA and WP:BESTCOI. JohnCD (talk) 15:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Rocco Borghese
Hi John , Thank you very much for your prompt email and I will study carefully the guidelines you have set out for me , is it possible before I submit the article I send it to you for approval as I do not want to cause any more counter-productive editorials , thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocco Borghese (talk • contribs) 15:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a way you can make a draft in your WP:user space, I will explain it tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 15:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Elainem2/Timothy Corrigan (interior designer)
Hi JohnCD: I have made changes to my article. Please check and let me know if it is ready to upload. Thanks for your help. Elainem2 (talk) 00:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have tweaked the refs a bit and made some comments on the talk page. More refs would help, but IMO it's good enough to submit to WP:Articles for creation and see what they say. JohnCD (talk) 22:36, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
I want to make Docments on my Account???
I cant Create any file??? please help me thanx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdirrashid (talk • contribs) 09:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- See the WP:Tutorial and WP:My first article. JohnCD (talk) 20:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
blarming
my article was deleted can you show me the original post as the one i did had no advertsisng in it my assistant made some changes and i want to know what knocked it out - I do apologise for this but before i discipline my assistant i wish to compare my post with the post that you deleted i cant figure out the move log as I wish to repost using the correct rules.
Thanks so much Mtctbt (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- *looks askance* You're trying to tell us that "This technique is used and taught exclusively by [<web address redacted> '''Mark Taylor'''] a loan originator in Scottsdale Arizona" is not advertising? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- ...or "Blarming information can be found at [<web address redacted>] or via contact with Mark Taylor <phone number redacted>"? I have emailed the text to you, but I have to say that it is very unlikely that any article on this subject will be acceptable - reasons on your talk page later but start with WP:NEO and WP:Notability. JohnCD (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Thom Russo speedy delete
My name is Rob Whalen, and I work for Nettwerk Producer Management, which represents Producer/Mixer/Engineer Thom Russo.
I think I was the last person to attempt to edit Thom's page, and I tried to do everything possible to make the page viable and appropriate for Wikipedia. I linked to our company's website and Thom's bio there. I also copied the previous version, 'cause that's about the most appropriate and correct thing we have.
I understand Wikipedia's policies are strict regarding copyright and reliability. If you could help me figure this out I would greatly appreciate it. As you know Wikipedia is a very important resource on the web, and we definitely need Thom Russo's entry up as soon as possible.
Thanks for your time.
Rob Whalen Nettwerk Producer Management 323-698-1845 rob@producermgmt.com www.nettwerk.com/producer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nettwerkrob (talk • contribs) 18:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Our policies are also strict regarding conflict of interest and using Wikipedia for promotion of clients. Advice on your talk page, maybe not till tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
LSU Department of Finance
JohnCD,
I would like to request my created page be released from the speedy delete function. I am unsure as to how my Article would constitute as not relevant enough to be in an encyclopaedia. Should I include more information on current research being done? I see that the Stevenson Disaster Management Institute is still an article; what is the defence between these two?
Thanks, FurgaleFurgale (talk) 20:01, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- What we look for is notability shown by "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." You showed none - all your references are local. SDMI has some, but pretty thin; E. J. Ourso College even thinner, as press releases do not count. I doubt if either of those articles would withstand a challenge on notability grounds. As the quote I left on your talk page says, we find that departments and sub-departments within a university are seldom notable enough for their own articles, and are usually best covered by a section in the university's article. JohnCD (talk) 22:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind terribly....
....if I "borrowed" User:JohnCD/Whydeleted? I would of course give attribution to those you have mentioned at the bottom of the page, as well as yourself. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 20:15, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, you're welcome, you don't need to credit me because I haven't really done anything but copy it. JohnCD (talk) 20:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a fantastic doc, nearly brought a tear to my eye as I read it and pictured how many future keystrokes it will save me. Cheers for that! --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 21:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Have a read of User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard, which I did write myself because I have that conversation so often - it's still a draft and I would be glad of comments. JohnCD (talk) 22:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Will do! --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 23:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay in replying, I did actually read through your "Not a noticeboard" subpage and it contains a great deal of information that would be useful for editors who are uncertain as to why their articles are not compliant. I was struck by the sentence "It is very likely a copy of a website or Facebook page." I keep coming across articles that new page patrollers have tagged as A7, that are actually blatant copyvios deletable as a G11/G12 combo. Until I started working through the back-log at C:SD I was completely unaware of the vast amount of copyright-violating material that is posted to Wikipedia everyday by individuals looking to promote their company or product. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 16:20, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Will do! --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 23:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Have a read of User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard, which I did write myself because I have that conversation so often - it's still a draft and I would be glad of comments. JohnCD (talk) 22:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a fantastic doc, nearly brought a tear to my eye as I read it and pictured how many future keystrokes it will save me. Cheers for that! --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 21:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
On reporting vandalism
Hi there! First of all I'd like to thank you for your quick response. I understand that vandalism is a common topic within Wikipedia articles; I indeed have a particular one on which vandalism has occurred, one I watch actually: Ethiopian Airlines destinations. In this particular case, sections of the article were deliberatedly deleted. This is not the first time the user did so, as I noticed on his/her talk page. Thanks again for your help.
Kind regards --Jetstreamer (talk) 17:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- That IP had already had a Level 3 warning on their talk page, so the thing to do is add a Level 4 (final) warning. As what they were doing was deletion, the right one was {{subst:uw-delete4|Ethiopian Airlines destinations}}. I have done that; you can see on the IP's talk page what it looks like. Any further vandalism from that IP in the near future can now be reported to WP:AIV for a block. JohnCD (talk) 18:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Software writing help
Hi John,
I am a user of a software product that I would like to publish a page about on wikipedia. My page keeps getting deleting due to its promotional sounding undertone. I looked at Microsoft's CRM software page as a future guide. Do you think if I construct my page with information on the software product it'll will be posted? Thanks PMATX (talk) 22:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)PMATX
- You must (a) avoid promotional terms like "most advanced & comprehensive", see WP:PEACOCK, and (b) establish notability as explained on your talk page - not every piece of software deserves an encyclopedia article. JohnCD (talk) 12:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Vivicca A. Whitsett
Hi John,
Please restore my page. I'm not certain that I connected all of the references correctly - but I do believe I did. I also added content, links to my most recent press, etc.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Best regards,
Vivicca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2tall4u2 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reply tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2011 (UTC)