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I also have a medium app for the game[edit]

https://medium.com/@zanegardner/relay-ball-a-new-ball-and-game-sport-idea-developed-by-zane-gardner-you-kick-the-ball-and-try-to-5d76371dd5d1 Relayball47 (talk) 00:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How can I help with the cite clean-up[edit]

I'm probably to blame for a number of the citation problems. On the articles on my watchlist, they were introduced by a citation cleaning tool I used. It has been fixed, but I don't know how you're cleaning them and which list you're working from or how you're finding the articles with cite errors. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is that the "dead-url" issue? Monkbot is clearing those as they come. I'm working though Category:CS1 errors: markup at the moment, 75% there in terms of numbers but the last few thousand are going to need more work (almost everything before "N") so that would be useful. Category:CS1 errors: script parameters is down to about 500 more tricky items, if you fancy giving that a go? All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
It is a shame though that you are simply stripping wiki markup without apparently looking carefully at what you're doing. This edit, for example, leaves newspaper names in |publisher= when in both cases the parameter name should have changed to |newspaper= and you left the extraneous word via when that should have become |via= (and, The Hollywood Reporter is a magazine so {{cite magazine}} and |magazine= ...). I do wish you were doing better work because clearly you are motivated to do the work.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fixing up references is a huge task, splitting and renaming parameters, is in my view, a separate issue. I am concerned that we have red errors on pages where, for the reader at least, there is no problem. This is not the only case where the COINS tail is wagging the encyclopedic dog. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 09:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
No kidding? I know that fixing citations is a big task. Getting parameter values and template names right has been made more difficult because you are simply stripping-off the inappropriate wiki markup and not addressing the underlying problem. The inappropriate markup errors help to identify those templates that need work because cs1|2 could put them all in a category to work from. Parameter values with markup have been invaluable in the work that Monkbot/task 14 has been doing. Without those indicators, there isn't much of a simple way to find and properly fix cs1 templates that use |publisher= where they should be using one of the work parameters. Yeah there are various searches but they can be problematic. Those templates that you have 'fixed' are still broken because periodicals are not rendered correctly when they are named using |publisher=. And you will notice, that in all of this conversation, I have said nothing about COinS though, since you have raised, and obviously recognize that there is the metadata issue, failure on your part to replace |publisher= in a periodical template with an appropriate periodical parameter, omits that data from the metadata so that remains broken after you 'fixes'. So you have treated the symptom and not the disease.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tail wagging the dog, indeed. It seems to me to be a case of inconsequential changes. -- Ohc ¡digame! 20:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2019[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Guideline and policy news

  • A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration

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My actual goal[edit]

Add new and unique sports list to Wikipedia https://www.topendsports.com/sport/new/list.htm Relayball47 (talk) 00:18, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #389[edit]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • SPARQL RC is showing the recent changes on items that are listed from a specific query. It is very useful to monitor the changes on a specific subset of data, for example data that you recently imported in Wikidata.
  • Development
    • Made the Lua functions mw.wikibase.getBestStatements and mw.wikibase.getAllStatements faster if called more than once for the same statement on a single page
    • Fix a bug on the mobile termbox (phab:T236677)
    • Update Wikibase Lua documentation (phab:T225497)
    • Highlight individual statements when selecting them in the URL (phab:T234079)
    • Add monolingual language code "sa-Sidd", "pi-Sidd", tnq (Taíno), car (Kalinago) and bdr (phab:T230881, phab:T220284, phab:T234330)
    • Make it possible to collapse the "All entered languages" section when at the end of the section (phab:T232595)
    • Cache php.getEntityStatements in mw.wikibase (phab:T236491)
    • Tracking Wikidata Bridge openings by Datatype in Grafana (phab:T231204)
    • Not showing Bridge edit pens when the editor cannot edit the article (phab:T235152)
    • A bugfix to only show scrollbars where they are supposed to be shown (phab:T235622)
    • Enabling/Disabling the Save button depending on the bridge state (phab:T230342)
    • More work on tainted references

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 16:35, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout[edit]

Please don't move short descriptions below hatnotes, as you did here. According to MOS:ORDER, the original order of first the short description, then the hatnote, was the correct one. Fram (talk) 13:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This was pretty much written WP:BOLDly without talk page consensus. While I am inclined to agree, there are good arguments for other orders too. I think this is really not something we need to worry about too much. Particularly I would recommend it is not something you should worry about in other editors. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
Oh, I don't worry when others put it in a different place initially. However, changing the order already in the article when this has no benefit at all and goes against what is in the MOS seems something to be avoided. Bot-like edits which imposed your preferred layout (even if combined with useful parts in the same edit) is one of the issues you have got into trouble with in the past. Dropping a neutral note about one such thing which now popped up on my watchlist may be something you would recommend against, but I guess it would be smarter to invite such notes and follow the advice. Fram (talk) 14:03, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Redirects from Ilokano-language terms[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Redirects from Ilokano-language terms requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 15:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"This will give you the opportunity.... " not really. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
The new category is at Category:Redirects from Ilocano-language terms, apparently. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Date formats inquiry[edit]

Hi - May I ask what method/tool are you using for your date format edits? This is mainly for my own interest as I like to learn, plus the changes are clearly useful maintenence and not contentious. That also leads to my follow up question – Is there a way to filter watchlists so automated tasks like these aren't viewed? I can filter out auto tasks performed by bots but since you are human that won't work in this case. :) Many thanks -- Ham105 (talk) 11:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #390[edit]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
    • Speedpatrolling is a tool to easily patrol Wikidata recent changes, typically on mobile devices.
  • Development
    • In order to decrease the size of what we store in caches we stopped storing the actual EntityUsage objects in ParserOutput and now just store minimal identifier strings (phabricator:T236749)
    • Investigated why Termbox broke on an update (phabricator:T235261)
    • Removed auto jump of focus from Property field to value field (phabricator:T234322 - thanks to Envlh for the patch)
    • Removed non-functional site link groups for other Wikibase installations that don't need them (phabricator:T232248)
    • Continued working on the migration of the wb_terms table to address scalability issues
    • Continued working on the shortened version of edit summaries for edits made through the mobile termbox (phabricator:T224013)
    • For the Wikidata Bridge we are not showing edit pens when the user can not edit the article anymore (phabricator:T235152)
    • Working on viewing existing references in the Wikidata Bridge (phabricator:T233397)
    • Worked on showing an information popup when clicking the tainted reference icon to tell you what went wrong and how to solve it.
    • Worked on defining first version of Federation for wikis outside Wikimedia
    • Commons search have stopped indexing statements (structured data) since 30 October 2019 (phabricator:T237849)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 14:54, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Radio-tellurium" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Radio-tellurium. Since you had some involvement with the Radio-tellurium redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ComplexRational (talk) 15:00, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Redirects from Ilokano-language terms[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Redirects from Ilokano-language terms requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here some drafts of actors.[edit]

Here are drafts of pakistani actors. Take your time to check them no need hurry.

Hi Rich. It's been a while can you check my drafts of actors and actresses that i submitted. I have some more drafts, but i will do it next time. I recheck all the drafts i submitted and added sources and other stuff can you check it, take your time no need to hurry. Thank You. (39.43.86.142 (talk) 15:58, 27 November 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Your interesting edits: changing the order in which reference footnotes are listed[edit]

Hello Rich, I notice you have swapped the order in which a couple of footnotes appear in the articles Nurragi railway station and Milang railway line.

It's of no great import, but I'm curious as to the reason. When entering more than one reference at the end of a paragraph I usually put the more substantive reference first. So I'm curious whether there are other policies or factors I'm not familiar with.

While I'm here: one change somewhere consisted only of removing a space between the end of "</ref>" and the end of a paragraph. I had thought that such spaces were of no account. Do you have some info on this? Cheers, SCHolar44 (talk) 00:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Rich, for the comments you left on my Talk page. SCHolar44 (talk) 10:36, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #391[edit]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Recap of WikidataCon and WikiConference North America, 19 November. Agenda
  • Tool of the week
    • The Mix'n'Match gadget displays on an item all unconfirmed matches on Mix'n'match, allowing to quickly add them.
  • Development
    • Tainted references: Show warning icon if statement value is changed but reference is not changed in the same edit (phab:T231728)
    • Make WikibaseQualityConstraints link using SpecialMyLanguage (phab:T233003)
    • Work on the issue of property labels not showing up on some pages (phab:T237984)
    • Track Bridge openings by property datatype (phab:T231204)
    • Viewing existing references in the Bridge (phab:T233397)
    • Attaching the link listener sooner, so the user gets a bit less often wrongly forwarded to wikidata (phab:T235765)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 18:37, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Weather compensation has been nominated for speedy deletion. Hand-written note.[edit]

Hi Rich Farmbrough,
That article has been nominated for speedy deletion under the WP:A1 criterion here.
As far as I can see, it may be a topic related to air conditioning and/or boilermaking. I would edit the article myself, but I simply don't have the knowledge required to improve it.
Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weather compensation moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Weather compensation, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. ——SN54129 10:59, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks![edit]

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Monthly clean-up category/Type/User-created public domain images (no Commons)[edit]

Template:Monthly clean-up category/Type/User-created public domain images (no Commons) has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:16, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikidata weekly summary #392[edit]

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
  • Cradle enables editors to create a new item by completing a form. You can create a new form on the Cradle help page. Cradle forms can be used as templates to ensure that similar new items are structured the same way. This can be especially helpful for specific WikiProjects or datathons, and is a great timesaver if you are creating many similar items by hand.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • 570k VIAF identifiers have been added to Wikidata items in an effort of synchronisation between the two databases, thanks to Bargioni. In order to report errors in VIAF an apposite page has been created. More information here.
    • Query Service lag now affects maxlag. You may need to retry/reset error multiple times when you run QuickStatement or OpenRefine in busy hours.
    • Wikidata now documented more than six million people, more than the number of articles in English Wikipedia
    • New documentation page: Wikidata:Map data
  • Development
    • Add Wikidata query service lag to Wikidata maxlag (phab:T221774)
    • More work on tainted references and getting the feature ready to be tested
    • Fix a bug with Wikibase test builds (phab:T238575)
    • More work on improving the edit summaries (phab:T224013)
    • Bridge: Viewing existing references (phab:T233397)
    • Preserving native behavior on key+click (phab:T234060)
    • Speeding up initialization, by attaching link listeners sooner (phab:T235765) and reducing the size of the init module (phab:T235771)
    • Recording metrics for bridge opening performance (phab:T237368)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 11:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rename[edit]

Hi Rich. Can you rename these drafts Draft:Danial Afzal (actor) to Danial Afzal Khan and Draft:Sukaynah Khan to Sukynah Khan, Draft:Isha Noor (pakistani actress) the p is small can you make it capital.

Thank you. (39.43.86.142 (talk) 05:26, 28 November 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Date formats[edit]

Are you using a script to make edits like this or is it manual? Either way it is not complete, as evidenced by this (which is using a script). GiantSnowman 11:48, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Richard: This is a question about the article about David Gelbaum. I notice that you have edited it, and I believe that at some point you inserted the date of his death. David was a dear friend of my childhood and youth, but I had lost contact except for an exchange of letters in 2008. Although David was a noted and somewhat controversial philanthropist, I can find no record via Google searches of his death. No obituary. No newspaper citations. If you were the contributor who inserted his date of death (Sept. 30, 2018), can you tell me the source of that information. Do you have any other information about the circumstances of his death? -- Bill Horns. Hornsw (talk) 22:25, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Date of death was added by an IP here. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:28, 28 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
This page seems to support the death date. But I am not convinced. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Same Name actresses[edit]

Hi Rich. I made a draft of ayesha khan who is a senior actress but there was another actress with the same name so i add (Sr.) with so that no one could get confused. can you check it Draft:Ayesha Khan (Sr.). (39.43.119.231 (talk) 15:35, 28 November 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Hi, I think the title needs to be changed. Jr. and Sr. have specific meanings. Also can you look at the changes I have made to some of your existing drafts, for example using the full term "show business" instead of "showbiz".
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:17, 29 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]

The Signpost: 29 November 2019[edit]

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Witton[edit]

Pls make witton nickname in cursive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.249.18 (talk) 01:14, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What? Link to the article you want changed. Also read WP:MOS and see if italics is appropriate. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:03, 30 November 2019 (UTC).[reply]
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