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ANI about User:Tortle[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Disruptive editing by User:Tortle. Thank you. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 12:17, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Five minutes to help make WikiProjects better[edit]

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Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, Harej (talk) 17:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 2 September[edit]

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Repost of Shyla Stylez[edit]

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The Signpost: 02 September 2015[edit]

Dag nabit listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dag nabit. Since you had some involvement with the Dag nabit redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 05:21, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interested in your thoughts[edit]

@Rich Farmbrough: further to the debate at Talk:Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine, do you think it would be a good idea to investigate creating or amending Wikipedia policy so editors are prevented from giving a religion to young children, especially if the children are or were forced to perform religious beliefs and actions out of fear or terror of consequences or punishment (such as in Princess Marie's era)? Paul Austin (talk) 14:56, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Thanks[edit]

Glad to be of help :) 82.11.165.242 (talk) 18:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit filter noticeboard[edit]

Hi! I am asking this here so I don't risk derailing the conversation `on the noticeboard. You mentioned "They have "abusefilter" on testwiki so they do not need it here". I have been considering getting more involved in abuse filters (right now I do mostly microcontroller programming in assembly and C) and could use a sandbox of some sort to use while learning. Would it be a good idea to ask for abusefilter on testwiki? This leads to a more general question; how does a person with programming skills but no Wikipedia filter experience learn the ropes without screwing something up while learning? --Guy Macon (talk) 01:37, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Testwiki is a good idea, provided they are happy giving you the right over there. (It's really for testing the software. But it does get used for trying stuff out that, for example, requires junk in article space.)
We have been discussing that: there are really only two things one can do wrong:
  1. Block/tag a lot of innocent edits - solution, only create "log" filters, and test changes on a test filter as "log only" for sufficiently long.
  2. Create a filter that costs too much,and causes other filters not to run. Sub problems:
    1. by overrunning the condition count. This is an arbitrary , buggy, but at least predictable metric, special to edit filters. By dint of keeping the condition count down on all our filters we rarely overrun them, despite a significant number of new EFs being added.
    2. by overrunning the execution time limit. This is caused by well formed regex, usually greedy ones, that take exponential time to run.
The only defence against the second pair of errors (apart form not making them) is to put the new EF at the end of the list, which is where new EFs naturally go. However our test filters are 1 and 2.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:52, 6 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

Reference errors on 6 September[edit]

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Please join, if you are interested, thanks![edit]

[[1]] --huggi - never stop exploring (talk) 03:54, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore is a little far for me, unless you are sending plane tickets! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 04:05, 7 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

Userboxes[edit]

Do you know how I can sort out my userboxes? They told me to use a template at the Teahouse that I'm already using. Also, is there a userbox for the total number of edits a user has made on all wiki projects? Thanks in advance, Rubbish computer 01:10, 7 September 2015 (UTC) Rubbish computer 01:10, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I love being naughty, I hate being nice, so just to be naughty, I'll sign my name twice!
I have a count of edits on my user page - but the data is on a sub-page, and manually updated (about once a year). I have contemplated something like "adminstats" for regular users, but I would not be able to support it myself, as I once said "tosh" to an arbitrator.
I'll have a look at your userboxes presently. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]
Here's my thoughts.
  • The {{Userbox top}} is floating the whole thing right, but centring it within the div
  • The {{Thank You IP/User box}} provides a float right which, without the Userbox top it will misalign. You can maybe overcome this with {{Thank You IP/User box|center}}
  • The userboxes are all the same width, but they are not all the same height.
Here is another way of doing it, simpler but has a wide right margin for me. You could set the overall width of the table and of each cell.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 02:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

@Rich Farmbrough: Thanks. Rubbish computer 06:49, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #174[edit]

Invitation to subscribe to the edit filter mailing list[edit]

Hi, as a user in the edit filter manager user group we wanted to let you know about the new wikipedia-en-editfilters mailing list. As part of our recent efforts to improve the use of edit filters on the English Wikipedia it has been established as a venue for internal discussion by edit filter managers regarding private filters (those only viewable by administrators and edit filter managers) and also as a means by which non-admins can ask questions about hidden filters that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss on-wiki. As an edit filter manager we encourage you to subscribe; the more users we have in the mailing list the more useful it will be to the community. If you subscribe we will send a short email to you through Wikipedia to confirm your subscription, but let us know if you'd prefer another method of verification. I'd also like to take the opportunity to invite you to contribute to the proposed guideline for edit filter use at WP:Edit filter/Draft and the associated talk page. Thank you! Sam Walton (talk) and MusikAnimal talk 18:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Template:Facts/doc requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Unused template doc

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Mahdy Saffar (talk) 16:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

wayback param for cite_web (and friends)[edit]

You thread-jacked insightfully commented that it would be helpful to have a |wayback= param.  :-)

I kinda-sorta agree, but I think that it would be better just to have auto-detection of the use of archive.org in the |archiveurl= param. The point of adding the |wayback= param, is that you can paste in the YYYYMMDDHHMMSS portion of the archive.org URL, and then elide the |archive-date= param.

However, if the template can simply detect and parse the contents of the |archiveurl= field, it would be possible to elide the |archive-date= param *and* the |url= param, too, since both are encoded in the full |archiveurl= contents. I also think it is simpler to cut-n-paste the entire URL of the archive.org snapshot (which is alt+d ctrl+c ctrl+tab ctrl+v for my tabbed browsing), than it is to cut-n-paste just the YYYYMMDDHHMMSS portion (which needs the mouse).

Anyways, figured I would leave a note here on your usertalk, with my suggested parse-the-existing-param-more-intelligently suggestion, in case you decide to further pursue an upgrade to the way that archiveurl is handled. 75.108.94.227 (talk) 21:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]
I've also proposed a maybe-not-too-process-heavy thing over at the Edit-Filter-draft-page. If you have time to look, that would be appreciated. But mostly what I came back to say was, this made me chuckle.[2] "Since theoretically you might have had your password compromised, we're blocking you just in case, until the off-chance has been 100% ruled out." 75.108.94.227 (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 09 September 2015[edit]

You're Invited![edit]

{{WPW Referral}}

Answered All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:06, 11 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

FYI... you created a redirect to itself. Bgwhite (talk) 07:18, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The ultimate walled garden! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #175[edit]

Email[edit]

Ping! Thou hast email :) ϢereSpielChequers 18:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?[edit]

Thanks for your thanks but I have not edited the Sweet Briar page in at least a week (just checked--it's been nearly two weeks). Must've been somebody else.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 18:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks were for the talk page encouragement to a new user - and 5 weeks ago! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

Hi,

I see that from User talk:Magicsan that you are Magicsan's mentor. I don't really want to engage with him myself, so I'm hoping you can. Could you please talk to him about his deletion nominations? He has nominated several articles for speedy deletion, but has given reasons that clearly don't apply, and also has started a couple AFDs while giving almost no explanation of why he thinks the articles should be deleted (e.g., just saying "totally useless" or "its a stub"). He doesn't seem to have a good understanding of when the deletion policies apply or which articles should be deleted. Calathan (talk) 18:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

shoe size[edit]

I wear size 11 steel toecaps. What do you wear?

My Totectors are a mere size 10 but I have two pairs (one is anti-static, the other fire-resistant with a steel mid-sole). I suppose they add to make size 20.
Rich Farmbrough, 22:57, 18 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

The Signpost: 16 September 2015[edit]

Help us improve wikimeets by filling in the UK Wikimeet survey![edit]

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Thanks! Mike Peel (talk) 17:34, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #176[edit]

ARCA appeal[edit]

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Imposition of an Arbitration Enforced Sanction against me by Bishonen and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, Soham321 (talk) 20:10, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanking script?[edit]

Rich, someone told me you have a script to run that thanks everyone who !voted in your RfA... I'd like to do that for everyone on all sides who !voted in mine, the participation rate was very high, and I'm actually glad for all the feedback, even the stuff that was, well, meh. How does one do a mass send but not piss off people by spamming? Montanabw(talk) 23:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They are mistaken. I did it manually, and made one or two errors, dishing out excess cookies to one or two !voters who commented in a different section.
I think RfA acknowledgements/thanks are sufficiently part of the culture not to be considered spam. I monitored mine a little bit, and I think the worst response I got was a summary deletion.
It's very easy to copy the list of !voters (I hadn't seen that tool!) fix the errors, and make it into a talk page list. You can then open them in a new browser window, say 50 at a time, and add your message to each and save. Closing the window saves closing the individual tabs.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:52, 25 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]
Oh if you have AWB you could do it using that. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:54, 25 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

The Signpost: 23 September 2015[edit]

The article Margaret Hannan has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 23:32, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on Margaret Hannan requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:34, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GeoffreyT2000@ please do not speedy pages that have a prod notice on them. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:26, 26 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]
  • Hi, I have restored Margaret Hannan. But it does need a claim of importance very soon, and references in the near future. Otherwise this could be a draft instead if you don't have time to do anything now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:45, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

India-Pakistan arbitration amendment request archived[edit]

The India-Pakistan arbitration amendment request, which you were listed as a party to, has been archived to Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan. Thank you. For the Arbitration Committee, Jim Carter 05:33, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #177[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Nicholas Bowen requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, a group of people, an individual animal, an organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content, or an organized event, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. isfutile:P (talk) 16:55, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tonyinman@ Replied on talk page. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:13, 30 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]