User talk:Gerda Arendt/2018

Did you know ...

... that Rabbi Michael Robinson and 15 other Reform rabbis
were arrested and jailed after answering Martin Luther King's
call to stand with him for civil rights in St. Augustine, Florida?
(20 December)

... that the 1964 church (pictured) for the new parish
Zu den heiligen Engeln (To the Holy Angels)
in Hanover was designed by Josef Bieling
to symbolize the tent of God among men?
(18 December)

... that Camille Saint-Saëns composed the Messe de Requiem in memory of his friend and patron, Albert Libon,
and conducted the first performance in 1878 at Saint-Sulpice in Paris?
(18 November, the day we learned that Shock Brigade Harvester Boris died

Sara Hershkowitz
Gut Holzhausen

listen on YouTube

Rheingau Musik Festival 2018: Friendship
Eberbach Abbey

Rotterdam Philharmonic · Yannick Nézet-Séguin Filarmonica della Scala · Jan Lisiecki · Andrey Boreyko Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment · John Butt Annette Dasch · Daniel Behle · Wolfram Rieger Bernstein: Missa Brevis, Chichester Psalms Christian Gerhaher, NDR Elbphilharmonie Orchester Choir of The King's Consort, Robert King Boris Giltburg Walter Renneisen Claire Chase · Anders Hillborg · Olga Neuwirth Tabea Zimmermann · Uri Caine · Brett Dean Anna Prohaska · Giovanni Antonini The King's Singers Mona Asuka Albrecht Mayer François-Xavier Roth · Alice Sara Ott Andreas Scholl

Jauchzet, dienet
rejoice, serve, serve with joy, reflect, come together to dance and give thanks

in loving memory of my mother who was born on 9 January, and my father who died on 15 January listen, 2017

Happy New Year 2018!
mein hertze sol dir grünen my heart shall green for you (Paul Gerhardt, 1653)

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Thank you[edit]

Thank you for the positive comments at the AI thread. Hard spot for anyone to speak up when a gang of editors are attacking someone....thanks. All my fault I took the bait. I really don't see a point in commenting anymore as they don't seem to care about accessibility dispite studies and reader after reader saying something. I will still have fun watching these guys scrabble all the time this comes up. It's to bad and funny because most of them are great editors. I spoke up about every 3 months or so...but think things are personal between me and Cass now..thus think it's best to let others deal with his odd inflamitory attitude. --Moxy (talk) 18:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, - I just stopped commenting, it's a waste of time. I add infoboxes, and when they are reverted, I add a new one, - for the readers. 2017 is the year of reformation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 is the year of serving with joy, - the same still applies. I'd advise everybody to stay as far away from the infoboxes topic as they can. There are so many other good things you can do here with the limited time we are given in life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cantata query[edit]

Hi Gerda, are you up for a Cantata Query please? It has ****-all to do with Wikipedia really so I would email you if it's OK. Bribery terms highly negotiable! Cheers DBaK (talk) 15:53, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

go ahead --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Emailed you just now. Sorry in advance ... Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gottes Zeit ist die allerbeste Zeit, BWV 106? Can't be said too often. Happy 2018! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh good grief, how beautiful and how deliciously weird too! The boss is out walking doggies right now but I have downloaded the Suziki Vol. 2 (I love the Cantata article structures!) and I'm going to play it to her as soon as she is back. Just from her description, I think you have nailed it - you amazing knowledge repository you! Thank you so much and Happy New Year to you too. I'll get back to you when she's heard it (watch this space) but I think I know the outcome ... with all good wishes DBaK (talk) 13:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely nailed it, thanks: you star. We are now listening to Suziki and JEG. So great - many many thanks DBaK (talk) 14:27, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Magnificat and Nunc dimittis (Gloucester)[edit]

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:04, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier[edit]

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Music[edit]

Hello Gerda. I’ve just read today’s featured article, Der Psalm 100, and saw you had something to do with it. For that effort I thank you. I would also like to ask if you are a musician. My mother taught me to play piano when I was a child - she played piano for the small Southern Baptist chapel she grew up in in a small town in the Southern US.

I hadn’t touched a (musical) keyboard for nearly 25 years (except upon visits to my mother) until this Christmas when my wife surprised me with an electronic piano as a gift. I have greatly enjoyed relearning the true wonder of music these past few days. I was so incredibly surprised that I still remembered the notes to Minuet WoO 10, No. 2 (Beethoven)! Today I am thankful to be able to appreciate music and have a desire to learn more about it. Mr Ernie (talk) 03:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, Mr Ernie! I almost cried when you mentioned your mother because today is the birthday of my mother, and the day was chosen because this is so, DYK? In loving memory I recall that she had sung all the time I can remember, and I got a piano - something she would have loved to learn but her family couldn't afford it - when I was ten. Professionally, I did something else, but the love of music stayed (I have an infobox on my user page), and yes, this past Christmas was especially musical, - happy 2018! The psalm by Reger (celebrated in 2016) is a giant work, and carries what I stand for: rejoice, serve, serve with joy, reflect, come together to dance and give thanks. There's a YouTube link if you want to listen to us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for St. Nicolai, Lüneburg[edit]

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Heinz Wunderlich[edit]

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Singers[edit]

Well, to be fair, I've also known a few singers who weren't musicians, so... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Cristina Pasaroiu[edit]

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Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Diethard Zils[edit]

Servus Gerda, ich habe in der deutschen Wikipedia die Werkangaben bei Diethard Zils ergänzt, für den Fall, dass du sie hier auch ergänzen möchtest. LG und Gutes für 2018 --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 10:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Danke, später vielleicht, bin im Urlaub. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

...gute Recreation! LG--Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 16:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Propsteikirche, Dortmund[edit]

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda[edit]

Just a message that on 30 December–11 January I was in Addenbrookes Hospital with a stroke. I was lucky that I mostly recovered my vocabulary; and I was also fortunate that on 12 January I was able to play BWV 653, "By the waters of Babylon I sat and wept", on manuals and pedal (our 1708 baroque organ). Perhaps I might play one of the Reger 52 "easy" chorale preludes on that organ as a tribute. Regards, Mathsci (talk) 09:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shocked and relieved! Makes us remember what's important. I pay tribute to my parents, above, did you see? I wanted the image on 1 January, but today is even better. I grew up in Dortmund, Aplerbeck, to be precise. Article will grow, I'm on vacation. - All the best for your health. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mass, Op. 130[edit]

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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— Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 03:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125 scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125 has been scheduled as today's featured article for 2 February 2018. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 2, 2018. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, will check! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"In the third movement, Bach set the librettist's text differently than the interspersed hymn quotations, but unites both all with a continuous "motif of joy" in the accompaniment." Could you rephrase? I don't know what that means. - Dank (push to talk) 21:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that's your job ;) - Long version: Bach sets the elements recitative and chorale differently, rendering the librettist's text in "rhythmically free diction of recitative",[24] and the chorale as arioso. He unifies the movement by a continuous motif in the strings, called "Freudenmotiv" by Dürr, which "always indicates an underlying mood of happiness". - Explanation: the text combines the librettist's words and quotations from Luther's hymn, not one after the other, but switching several times. See here, librettist's normal, hymn bold. Bach set the librettist's words as recitative, but Luther's as arioso, with the accompaniment the same throughout for both: a motif that stands for joy (Freude). Please try, - this is an outstanding movement (both text and music are unusual), so should be mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I like your version, but ... the motif is repeated over and over, and Freudenmotiv is a symbol of joy rather than plain and obvious "joyful". But I guess it works for a casual reader. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"We are not amused"[edit]

Your comment turned out to be far more prescient than I think either of us could have imagined! I hope you're keeping up with events. I know you said you're on holiday but if you take a sideways look at all the drama it's hilarious in a Kafkaesque sort of way. (Sorry, I know that word is grossly overused but you get the idea.) nagualdesign 02:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For me, amusement is a kind of joy, see just above, call it a deliberate joy perhaps. I translate the title as "in peace and joy I let go" and try to live by it, could also say "without [the time waste of] discussion, but amused I go away". Sing a new song! Rejoice, serve! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I've woken up rather less amused than when I went to bed. Even when the bad guy ends up in the clink I can't help wondering if he's going to be alright in there. I feel responsible. That's a positive thing though, right? Better than not giving a f**k, that's for sure. Ah well. nagualdesign 13:18, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You came past my edit notice "Every editor is a human being." - no? I tell it myself, again, again, again, again ... - A friend died 2 years ago, - all the rest is of minor importance, kafkaesque at best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As the day went on I began feeling better. I remembered The Place of No Pity. nagualdesign 21:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good, no self-pity ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ilona Durigo[edit]

I have done a quick translation, but I was not sure of the meaning of Kopfregister and had to guess at repertoire, you may need to correct that. I have left the original in the footnote for reference. Moonraker (talk) 10:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not repertoire, but a vocal technique thing, resonance in the head (Kopfstimme = head voice), rather than chest/breast (Bruststimme = chest voice). Thanks for undertaking that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I thought it was something I didn't understand. I'll leave it for you to correct. Moonraker (talk) 10:52, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, let's look at it:

Frau Durigo sang these and all other songs (with those added there were nineteen) ... with the deepest perception.(?1) Her own experience of the songs(?2) expressed itself (?3) not only in the musical differences of enunciation (the tones of her repertoire, so wonderfully fine, so poetry-transfigured, were never heard before from any singer),(?4) but also in the sparkle of her eyes, the true mirror of the soul,(?5) as it came and went. And that her interpretation throughout captured the perceptions of the composer, showed the perfect harmony between her splendid singing and the exceptionally(?6) beautiful piano playing of Schoeck.(?7)

Frau Durigo sang diese und alle anderen Lieder (mit der Zugabe waren es 19) ... mit tiefster Empfindung. Ihr eigenes Erleben dieser Lieder äusserte sich nicht allein in den musikalischen Vortragsdifferenzierungen (so wunderzart, poesieverklärte Töne, wie die ihres Kopfregisters, hörte man vorher von keiner Sängerin), sondern auch im zu- und abnehmenden Glanz ihrer Augen, dieses wahren Seelenspiegels. Und dass ihre Interpretation durchwegs das vom Komponisten Empfundene zutreffend erfasste, bewies die vollkommene Harmonie ihres herrlichen Gesanges mit Schoecks eigenartig schönem Klavierspiel."

Is "perception" (Wahrnehmung) really "Empfindung"? as in Empfindsamkeit? I'd roughly think "feeling", "sensitivity", "open for the sentiment". In other words: you can perceive without a soul, but not "empfinden" without one.
"Erleben" should be experience of what is going on in the song, rather then repertoire. She lives what she sings.
"äusserte sich" means simply "showed", - now put that in idiomatic, - I don't think you can personalize "experience" (or whatever better word you find) as some "it" that has an expression.
the whole phrase in brackets needs rewording, after adding "head voice", - "so wunderzart" is explained/illustrated by all the details that follow, therefore should be at the beginning.
"... of her soul", no?
"eigenartig" means "one of a kind" or "unique", - today almost always used in a negative way, but not then.
The whole sentence should be the other way round: the harmony between her and the pianist/composer showed that she had the right sensitivity for his songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, I'd say most of these German words for abstract ideas don't have an exact equivalent in English, you can't nail them down precisely. It was only a quick translation, and some of your choices are better.

Yes, sensitivity is better here than perception and feeling.
You seem to be agreeing with the word experience. I did say repertoire was a complete guess, as I had never come across that word Kopfregister.
äussern is cognate with utter, the root meaning of it is something like giving voice to. If here the writer means showed or displayed, then we could bring in one of those, or perhaps an English writer would say shone through in.
I turned it around because it sounded a little awkward, but we can of course keep the German word order if you think there's a particular reason for it.
The German doesn't specify anyone's soul, and that term mirror of the soul is a standard English idiom. So if we said mirror of her soul, we should be adding an emphasis that isn't there.
On eigenartig, I'd say individual is nearer the meaning than unique? I don't sense that the writer is saying Schoecks Klavierspiel was uniquely beautiful, and I think exceptionally gets to about the right level of praise. If we said "individually beautiful" that sounds weird, believe me.
I left it as it was because I could make it sound okay in English, but the perfect harmony is the active noun in the sentence, so it does come out better if turned around, as you suggest. I once heard Giscard d'Estaing give a speech in French that was being simultaneously translated for an international conference in Sweden, and after a few small jokes he commented rather drily that the Germans mostly laughed last, because the verb finds its way to the end of the sentence.

So perhaps we get to this -

Frau Durigo sang these and all other songs (with those added there were nineteen) ... with the deepest sensitivity. Her own experience of the songs shone through, not only in the musical differences of enunciation (such wonderfully fine, such poetry-transfigured tones of the head−voice were never heard before from any singer), but also in the sparkle of her eyes, the true mirror of the soul, as it came and went. And the perfect harmony between her splendid singing and the exceptionally beautiful piano playing of Schoeck showed that her interpretation throughout captured the perceptions of the composer.

Moonraker (talk) 12:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Splendid. Please add that. Minor: how about "intentions" of the composer, rather than "perceptions", - concept? ideas? feelings? - every single one not good enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the page. Moonraker (talk) 04:43, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I enjoyed it. You can get ready for the translation of the title page of Schemellis Gesangbuch ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Moonraker, here it's transcribed: Musicalisches Gesang-Buch, Darinnen 954 geistreiche, sowohl alte als neue Lieder und Arien, mit wohlgesetzten Melodien, in Discant und Baß, befindlich sind; Vornehmlich denen Evangelischen Gemeinen im Stifte, Naumburg-Zeitz gewidmet --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Freundliche Vision[edit]

Moonraker, today it's Freundliche Vision from Der Neubestellte Irrgarten Der Liebe: Um Etliche Gaenge Und Lauben Vermehrt, Verliebte Launenhafte, Moralische Und Andere Lieder, Gedichte U. Sprueche. Bis 1905.. I'd translate "friendly vision", but the publisher says "welcome vision", another translator "A pleasant vision", and you? And that "launiger Titel", alluding to the features of a romantic maze for lovers? - Soon, please, will be DYK in less than an hour. I found the trouvaille only now, expanding towards GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flowery language[edit]

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		For your excellent suggestion to use flowers for arbitration case names [1] Thryduulf (talk) 01:00, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:16, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear...[edit]

In response to your comment: "Alex, do you really not see the irony? - See thread just above. Amused." -- Clearly, Gerda, you are suffering from a touch of selective reading. Gnome points out in his post that comments can be removed if they are "...harmful posts, including personal attacks, [and] trolling...". His comment on the Shelley talk page has nothing to do with the subject in hand and is a response to a now 8-day old comment. It is designed to belittle and patronise the people on the other side of the argument and that does not make for constructive editing. I would consider that to be "trolling" and "harmful" to the project as it is taking other editors away from improving the project to comment on this. No response required and your welcome to revert. Cassianto^Talk 10:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm simply warning the neophyte of the dangers inherent in the toxic environment created by the childish and amateurish anti-infobox fanaticism. (Sample case in point, here. Lots more around but I can't be bothered.) I happen to find your comments in almost every thread and your general behavior extremely antagonistic, the opposite of constructive, and uncivil. In all my years in Wikipedia (about ten, so far), yours amounts to the worst violation of the code of civility by established editors I've come across. If you perchance find this "insulting," I'm sorry but that is not the intention. And you know what's sad? I checked up on some of your contributions and, if I may say so, in all humility, you still can be an otherwise quite valuable contributor to the project. Alas, you seem to have a temper shorter than Lady Gaga's hotpants! Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How about the childish and amateurish infobox fanaticism? We see this on a daily basis - and yet nothing is said? Why do you assume that those who dare to have a differing opinion to you are "childish and amateurish"? With regards to my "civility"? Well, I'm not here to make friends; I'm here to write, and if people piss me off along the way, without good cause, then I'll tell them, as I would in a real life situation. I'm afraid I don't pander to the Snowflake generation. I have always maintained that I would never say something to someone on here that I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life. And I think I've been pretty consistent with that. I abhor ageism, sexism, racism, homophobia, and the mocking of people with mental health issues. So to say that I'm by far the worst offender, is entirely inaccurate, I assure you, as I've seen it and have been the recipient of it on more than one occasion. For someone whose supposedly been here ten years, I'd suggest that you've led a pretty sheltered life around here if you consider my comments to be the worst. Cassianto^Talk 17:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I concede that I do not see nor watch everything. :-) But this is the honest truth as far as I'm concerned: I both find your contributions to articles valuable and your behavior towards editors with whom your disagree extremely uncivil. Of course, you'd see this very differently. You state that you are "not here to make friends" but being civil is not the same as seeking friendships; the insinuation about physical confrontation does not help either (i.e. "I would never say something to someone on here that I wouldn't have the balls to say in real life"). That's great, neither have I ever. But this is not because I'd be scared or be afraid of getting my ass kicked, or something. Anyway, what can I say - ever since I fell upon it (some weeks of months ago), I found the whole "infobox brouhaha" something strictly for the funny pages. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 17:27, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cassianto (and this is in response to your first message, edit conflict, but it's probably good for the other as well): I have a clear and simple policy about infoboxes on top of this page, summary: stay away from the topic as far as you can. There are people writing about them who don't understand the basics of our article, and it's tiresome to repeat the same things, for example "not necessary" (yes, of course not, nothing we do here is necessary), "redundant" (yes, of course, designed to repeat), and so on. Happy editing! It will be happier for everybody if the phrases "toxic", "insane" and "obsessed" are avoided. Remember? (2014) - I'd know a few more terms I really hate (and then being amused is more positive than despair), but let's try just those for a start. Alex, that means you as well. I wish you well with your attempt to improve the atmosphere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The trouble is, Gerda, you don't stay away from infoboxes, do you? You add them more frequently than they are taken away. Like this, for instance. What possibly possessed you to add that? It is as ridiculous as the day is long. And when they are taken away, you make a note of them on your user page. You "thank" people who add them and snipe at those who disagree with you. You are as bad as Gnome, Jcc, and the rest of them, only you are passive aggressive about it. Cassianto^Talk 19:04, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I said "as far as you can", no? When I add to an article, I also add an infobox. Your edits to the article have been reverts only, right? Usually described as drive-by. I withdrew the DYK nomination. What I don't do because it's a waste of time is "discussing". I did it here only because you mentioned the example. - I don't believe Gnome and Jcc are bad, nor you, so I enjoy the company. Every editor is a human being. If I may ask for two more terms to please be avoided then "fanatic" and "passive-aggressive". - I thank people who correct my mistakes, who revert vandalism, and yes, those who support my view that an infobox is helpful for some readers, which is enough for me. Back in 2013, I pleaded "but is it possible if it's good for only ten people", like Abraham when he argued with God ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell me what's helpful about the one you added on the Palm 149 article? I would suggest "nothing" as it carried only one field, "Hebrew", which is mentioned in the caption directly above it. Take that away and all you're left with is a box outline. This then begs the question why did you add it? You seem reluctant, or perhaps unable, whichever suits, to say why this is; uniformity, consistency, or aesthetically? Because I can tell you, it seems it's been added using not a lot of common sense. Cassianto^Talk 21:10, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What did you not understand in "the repetitive discussions are a waste of time"? I will try to first understand more about these psalms, find more background and information, but need time for research. Some help finding out when that was written by whom would be appreciated. They are not all by David, nor all from the same time. I am new to the topic, and curious, and Yoninah has helped a lot already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So unable or reluctant to then; I thought as much. The more people like you keep sticking your heads in the sand and hiding behind "civility" tags "own" accusations, or such as in this case, focusing on the discussion process rather than the cause of it, the more these discussion will be repeated. Sadly, until the next time... good evening. Cassianto^Talk 21:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You must confuse me with somebody. Civility was never my topic, nor did I say "OWN", and I hate tags. I wrote Der 100. Psalm, and will improve Psalm 100, and some others. To my understanding we have an unwritten agreement that I don't try to change "your" articles (Michael Hordern), - how about the same the other way round? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1). More selective reading; I said people like you use OWN and CIVIL, not you specifically. 2). There's no such thing as an "unwritten agreement" on Wikipedia as the alternative is a verbal one, and I'm pretty sure we've never spoken. 3). I will change what I like, when I like, and you can do the same; whether each other's changes have any merit or not is a different story. Cassianto^Talk 22:15, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My logic seems to be different than yours, which perhaps explains some misunderstandings. 1) I would not say "people like you" if I didn't mean you also. How else can the "like" make sense? How about less "people", but be specific? 2) Not everything that's not written has to be spoken.

The only thing I revert is vandalism, otherwise I let writers pretty much do what they like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1) Your logic is different to mine, which perhaps explains this misunderstanding. 2) Aside from the power of positive thought and the sending of a carrier pigeon that pecks out a coded message on a piece of wet bark, I cannot think how this could happen. But who cares. I suspect this is was only said in order bolster up a rather weak attempt to make me feel guilty about removing a box from "your" article when you don't add them to "mine". It doesn't. Cassianto^Talk 23:05, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea why you bring "feel guilty" into play. You don't sound like you feel guilty much. - I remember Max Reger, and it was written ("I will never convince you by argument, and you will never convince me by argument, so why not stop arguing and let people add an infobox (as long as it's not incorrect) if they like it, and others leave an article without it, if they like it." written June 2016). - Now, I need sleep. Even a fanatic, obsessed and passive-aggressive monster needs sleep at times ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

People can add infoboxes, but they should expect to have them challenged at any time, if someone deems them to be not fit for purpose. That's the beauty of having different opinions, you see; it's just the pro-box side think that everyone should just conform to their way of thinking, and if they don't, then they're just troublemakers. Not on my watch. Good evening. Cassianto^Talk 23:31, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ps: kindly get rid of the meaningless image caption in Psalm 100, IF you think you have to revert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sing a new song[edit]

New day, and with a new idea, and encouraged by this, I try to explain once more: The first sentence of infobox reads "An infobox is a template used to collect and present a subset of information about its subject, such as a document. It is a structured document containing a set of attribute–value pairs." That tells me: it has to present no additional information (but a subset, so is always redundant), and it is not restrained to information from the lead (but the whole article). I am used to these attribute-value pairs, being an opera lover, because a traditional opera plot begins with giving place and time of what follows. For me, an infobox - minimum version - does that: give me place and time for an article in a structured form. See Götterdämmerung: premiered when and where. See Beethoven: baptized when and where, died when and where, List of his compositions. - Cary Grant: A man's face, first word "Publicity", which is sort of fine for people who recognize the face. I and most of my cabal didn't go to the RfC there (wrong question: no word about restoration of a long-time infobox, no definition of a future one), as you may have noticed, - trying to leave things peaceful. For the psalm, Sing a new song, I don't know time and location yet, but will research. We have stub articles, why not tolerate a stub infobox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because a stub article is readable in terms of its length. Why bother to write the sub at all if we can get away with filling out an infobox template? I’m not really concerned with the Infobox article you link to; I’m more interested in the MoS that advises that an “infobox is neither prohibited or required" which, although it’s sitting on the fence a little bit, is fair in its description. But I'm the first to recognise that such impartial writing from our "guide" is perhaps why so many disputes take place. Cassianto^Talk 12:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can probably recite the "neither prohibited nor required" from memory. How many times was that quoted in discussions? The arbs ruled in 2013: "All editors are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions about infoboxes, and to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general." Perhaps that should be repeated more. - I don't get from your answer if you understand that "infobox is redundant" is never a good argument because it's the concept of an infobox to be redundant, and that all arguments mentioning the lead are also no good, because neither does all infobox data have to be in the lead, nor is it restricted to information from the lead. - I come from articles like this: The lead describes the character, while the infobox has the numbers. I like Imogen Holst.---Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Decorum and civility" unfortunately, gets stretched to the limit when the same old discussions by the same old people, keep getting rehashed every couple of months on the same old pages; moreover, as with Shelley's article, on a page where an obvious consensus exists, but like the Brexit situation, certain sections of the community want a best of three situation in order to overturn a decision that doesn't sit with them very well. Alex Shih, and people like him, can virtue signal all they want about civility being more of a concern than the subject at hand, but why fix the sink when it's the tap at fault? Civility is a byproduct of the flawed infobox ruling, and this is exasperated by people edit warring, taking the moral high ground that "consistency is key" and "you don't speak for the readers, I do" kind of talk. This is aggravated by patronising behaviour, and people refusing to accept others views or any offers of compromise. Oh, and is Alex going to devise an "edit notice" for those of us who specifically opt to create articles without an Infobox? I shouldn't think not. Cassianto^Talk 16:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You manage beautifully to respond to the part of my comment that was less important (civility, - I said above it's not my topic), while my focus was "to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general". Example Cary Grant discussion: if you ignore the comments that speak about infoboxes in general, not much would be left. I am sure that Alex thinks of a "no infobox edit notice", because no other is needed. We pro-boxers (= fans of structured information) don't need a notice. Did you know that I have not edit warred once in my Wikipedia career? The closest I came to it was on Sparrow Mass, when I restored the preferred version - weeks later - after the edit war of others. I recommend strict 1RR to anybody who wants to listen. This old woman has not started an infobox discussion since Pierre Boulez (when he died, 2 years ago). Long live his memory. Stay away from any infobox stuff, is what I learned and try to pass on. Look at the pristine talk page of Imogen Holst, - that's the goal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I know, fancy me selectively reading another persons post. Cassianto^Talk 17:09, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cassianto, if flawed infobox ruling from 2013 is the key problem, what remedy would you suggest? I am not actually so concerned about incivility; I think it's necessary to get things in order first, which I assume is what you meant by fixing the tap. I'll revert myself if you think edit notice is a bad idea, I was experimenting with thoughts reflected from reading comments by Dr. Blofeld, to devise some sort of mechanism to reduce drive-by additions of infobox. Alex Shih (talk) 17:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add, having watchlisted pages like Stanley Kubrick and Cary Grant recently does already gives me an small insight on how ridiculously frustrating it can be seeing edits like this one come up persistently. I am leaning toward the opinion that once a status quo has been established from extensive discussions, the status quo should remain in place unless if specific arguments about the article are proposed. But I'd like to know better solutions so that I can propose them to other members of the committee. Alex Shih (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you two perhaps talk on one of your pages? - About that edit: I never heard that editor's name, and believe they meant well. A little bit more AGF might also help. Seriously. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Gerda, perhaps I went too far off, I'll go away. To be fair, you asked me to read the cordial exchange here, so I read them and responded with my thoughts. Anyway, I don't think it's a bad thing to be frustrated at ill-advised but perhaps well-meaning edits; I thought Ian Rose's edit summary in his revert was fair and quite AGF. Alex Shih (talk) 18:05, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to go away if you talk to me. Ian is also someone who seems to be respected by all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can talk to me, Alex, on my talk page. It appears that Gerda is losing interest, despite the fact she keeps starting new threads about the same discussion, on her talk page. Gerda, if you don't want people talking about this (and you do) then please don't keep starting new threads and baiting people into discussion. Cassianto^Talk 19:24, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can talk to me, Cassianto, but - forgive me - it looked to me like you two wanted to talk to each other, about things such as the 2013 ruling which was flawed but who cares, and the history of two articles that I know too well, and about me in the third person. Talk constructively about the future, and I am ready. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to, Gerda, but it appears to some, that I've been "hounding" you. It's a shame, as there's nothing like a good discussion to sort out differing opinions, and I was rather enjoying having a debate with you. Never mind. While I'm here, can you point me in the direction to Infobox architect? I want to see what one is like. Best regards Cassianto^Talk 09:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the case request, sigh. I corrected a name and try to stay out. Feel free to link to this, proving that normal talk is possible, and offer something for the future. Opabinia regalis had good advice for Joefromrandb whom I defended, quote "this pointless drama-escalation is a common community antipattern that really needs a fresh approach" (which goes for all sides, that's why I try to stay out). Anything good for you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We had an edit conflict, I saw the question about architect only after saving. No, I use {{infobox person}} for all people. It's aesthetically more pleasing than musician (example Philip Glass) and others, and best-maintained. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

William Burges, and the styling is as "person". Don't use image-size, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Precious to the one deserves it most[edit]

For the most precious of all for your kindness and unfailing efforts to find peaceful ways of dealing with all of Wikipedia no matter the provocation to do otherwise, for the poetry of your approach, and for your extensive contributions, dear Gerda.(Littleolive oil (talk) 17:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you, fits nicely with the monster needing sleep ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for In Exile (Sumsion)[edit]

On 23 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article In Exile (Sumsion), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the motet In Exile for double choir by Herbert Sumsion was premiered at Gloucester Cathedral? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/In Exile (Sumsion). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, In Exile (Sumsion)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Freu dich, Erd und Sternenzelt[edit]

On 23 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Freu dich, Erd und Sternenzelt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the German Christmas carol "Freu dich, Erd und Sternenzelt" is based on a Czech song derived around 1500 from a Latin model (manuscript pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Freu dich, Erd und Sternenzelt. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Freu dich, Erd und Sternenzelt), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Narodil se Kristus pán for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Narodil se Kristus pán is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Narodil se Kristus pán until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- Gokunks (Speak to me) 23:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thomasschule[edit]

Sure - I'll take a look in a little while and cobble something together. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Freundliche Vision[edit]

On 25 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Freundliche Vision, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Richard Strauss's art song "Freundliche Vision" describes a waking dream? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Freundliche Vision. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Freundliche Vision), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten, BWV 202[edit]

On 26 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten, BWV 202, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the secular Bach cantata Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten, BWV 202, scored for a soprano soloist, oboe, strings and continuo, pictures the transition from winter to spring? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten, BWV 202. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Weichet nur, betrübte Schatten, BWV 202), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Erde, singe[edit]

On 26 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Erde, singe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Erde, singe" ("Earth, sing") was a carol in ten stanzas derived in the 19th century from a pastoral lullaby, but appears in the current hymnal in four stanzas, alluding to Christmas only once? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Erde, singe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Erde, singe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Děkuju![edit]

Thanks for the message :) – filelakeshoe (t / c)  14:42, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Colette Lorand[edit]

On 27 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Colette Lorand, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Colette Lorand made her debut as Gounod's Marguerite in 1945, created Reimann's Regan in 1978, and retired as Janáček's Emilia Marty in 1983? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Colette Lorand. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Colette Lorand), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My five years[edit]

Why thank you (though it seems like fifty ;)) Coretheapple (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. I noticed you no sooner than we missed 28bytes. - Thank you for your thoughts about consensus, which is not as obvious a fact as sometimes claimed. - Some days are heavier than others, but look for a bright vision here or here, - which image do you prefer? This perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall talking about consensus. I imagine I must have been sleepwalking! Coretheapple (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My memory is strange, admitted. - I just wrote an article about a daydream, DYK? Read above, if you are interested in the translation of poetry, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Stern über Bethlehem[edit]

On 28 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stern über Bethlehem, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Stern über Bethlehem" is a German song created in 1964 and often sung by star singers (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stern über Bethlehem. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Stern über Bethlehem), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats for this new DYK! I've already forgotten how I did contribute to this one. What a drag it is getting old... But I still remember I owe you a translation of a text related to Stern über Bethlehem. I start right now! LouisAlain (talk) 09:55, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! You translated all this Elsass villages stuff ;) - Did you see that I found a video on the author's page (and added it) wich probably shows him conducting? - Today's Main page is lovely, colourful and playful, I think. Never had a DYK that expressed my obsessive fanatism with singing as well as this one, with its song sung sing ;) - + Lego + 28 January was the day when Pride and Prejudice was published. - remember - That's the name I gave to the last infoboxes arb case, DYK? pride and prejudice II, in 2013. - A friend celebrates her 85th birthday, and I can't decide which article to devote to her, just sang Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt, and a piece of music was dedicated by her son to the memory of her husband, played by a pianist, who also played music dedicated to her (imagine three more red links), - but as it's Sunday, I may settle for the psalm verse that was the theme at the son's wedding, Psalm 103:2, and I remember the minister (who had already baptized the bride) saying: It's easy to remember the bad that has been done to us, but we have to call ourselves again and again to remember the good we received. Today, you two can just look at each other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

hello[edit]

The Call of the Wild
Precious six years

Hello Gerda, I hope things are going well. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 12:42, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for coming over, and yes, they are, - today it's 6 years that I began Precious which I consider my best contribution to the site, - not my invention but I gave it the new name and keep it going ;) - Thank you for the references tool, although I haven't found the time to check it out. - I had inspiring conversations (see above), about a cantata and the finesse of poetic translation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still working on the reference tool; it's far from done. Glad you feel inspired. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 15:17, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Lingzhi. Many sad experiences (beginning in 2012 when a friend was blocked and seemed lost for the project, which made the first "Precious") inspired me to write and expand today's article, which I translate as "let go". Sadly matching this call to do things as long as we can. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Most people would not consider me especially old (I am more than a decade from retirement), but I have various very noticeable and regrettable symptoms of mortality creeping up on me. Time marches on relentlessly. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 15:41, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This young man was 36. Let's not talk about age ;) - He said something I'd include in my edit notice if I had more space: "This user is a person, and nothing else matters." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ilona Durigo II[edit]

Hey Gerda. I noticed a note at the above article has some considerable amount of text in German. That's not very helpful to English-language readers, especially when it comes to verification of claims in the article, so could you translate it please? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The German quote was translated by Moonraker and placed in a blockquote (where the German had been in a former version. Would you prefer it next to the blockquote? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Naomi Parker Fraley[edit]

Hi Gerda,

I have been following the emerging story of late Naomi Parker Fraley since 2014, when I became aware of it on Facebook, before the news media brought it out. She did prefer to be referred as Naomi Parker Fraley, as evidenced by her official websites: http://www.naomiparkerfraley.com/ which was set up on her behalf by her stepson John Fraley, and also you can see this same name usage on her gofundme page which was set up by her son and daughter-in-law, Joe and Marnie Blankenship: https://www.gofundme.com/MakingRosieCozy There has never been a hyphen, that's a media error. You can confirm this 3-name name usage yourself, if you are on Facebook, by joining the Group named Rosebuds, Rivets and Tribute Rosie's, and communicating directly with John Fraley: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1669457373337963/

Best, Jeannette — Preceding unsigned comment added by A2Ypsi (talk • contribs) 20:42, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Naomi Parker Fraley is the name of the article, and used in the article after she married Fraley, - I don't know what you expect. Or just support? Then thank you ;) - I have nothing to do with Facebook, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Because you deserve this (and much more)! Thanks for the thanks! Marrante (talk) 22:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely to see your name again! Alleluia! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For Season's greetings, click on the green heart-leaf further up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ilona Durigo[edit]

On 31 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ilona Durigo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ilona Durigo, one of the leading concert contraltos of her time, performed in the first recording of Bach's St Matthew Passion, conducted by Willem Mengelberg? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ilona Durigo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ilona Durigo), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

Hello Gerda, with regard to the image File:Durigó Ilona 01.jpg, the licence states Important: "the author is unknown" is NOT the same as "I don't know who the author is". You have to provide a reason why you think no one else can know it; otherwise the image shall be deleted. No reason is given by the uploader why he "thinks no one else can know it." Also, I took a look at the webpage where the file was uploaded from, and could see no information about the image there. Gatoclass (talk) 14:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I read that, but who do you expect is going to find out (and why would they?) who the photographer of this quite normal singer's portrait was, who must also be dead for a while when s/he took it around 1900. Looks like formality to me. The image is used in 7 Wikipedias, and not only in her bio, but we: we looked at another plant (as just two days ago) instead of the face of a woman. Compare. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an expert on image policy Gerda, strictly speaking I don't think the licence complies because we don't know who took the photo, but we also don't know whether somebody else knows or not. Just because an image is on the internet with no information, and the person who uploaded it to Wikipedia doesn't know who took it, doesn't necessarily mean that the author of the image is unknown. This may seem like a nitpick and perhaps it is, maybe the community doesn't worry about such niceties, but I was concerned that if I left the article in the lead that somebody would yank it from the main page and we would have a short set. Normally, I could have moved the image back to the main page for further discussion, but we were running late on the update and I didn't have time to search for a replacement hook. Gatoclass (talk) 15:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't blame you, especially in the condition you described. The image is in Wikipedias from 2014, that's quite a public forum, and I bet that somebody who had interest in the rights for that image would have spoken. But enough, I look at that old image with so much life, matching the review that was translated with loving attention to detail: "eyes, mirrors of the soul" (above, by Moonraker). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich[edit]

On 1 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nikolaus Herman based the melody of his Christmas carol "Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich" on the Gregorian hymn "Puer natus est nobis"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lobt Gott, ihr Christen alle gleich), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 05:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Valentine[edit]

I took the liberty of adding to the Lead after you signed off on the DYK because I also felt the Lead was too short. Also replaced the second You Tube clip in the box, as the one I removed was a dead link. The replacement is a video of MC singing the chorus and using the substitute 'piton' and nose pointing. David notMD (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I like it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great job on Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125[edit]

G'day Gerda, great job with this TFA. Over 20K views! Nice work. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:50, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Did you notice that peace is in its name, as in yours? And joy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yampa (ship 1887)[edit]

Gerda,

I recently created this article. I'm not sure on the correct way to say "German Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm II." Also is it correct to say "Kaiser Wilhelm" in the body of the article like in, Kaiser Wilhelm immediately started the steps to acquire her for himself.[9] The German Emperor bought the yacht from Palmer in December 1897. Am I writing this correctly. Thanks for help on this German terminology.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:17, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can tell you that "German Emperor Kaiser" is too much of a good thing. "German Emperor Wilhelm II", or "German emperor, Kaiser Wilhelm II.". The German numeral dot after II is a problem in English, perhaps give the German only once in brackets and say "the emperor" (lower case) for the rest of the article. - Not really my field of expertise, perhaps Parsecboy knows better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for help and advice.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:00, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say either of Gerda's solutions are good ones, though I would lean toward the second one. Parsecboy (talk) 12:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Award[edit]

Thank you very much for the award. I feel honored. Have a nice week. :) --Góngora (Talk) 18:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, back from the opera --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People educated at the St. Thomas School, Leipzig[edit]

That should do it. Sorry - slipped through the cracks. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:33, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you think so ;) - Most of the people would not have known the school under that name. You could populate with people from the school's entry, and create a teachers's cat, Amantio? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well...maybe it's not the most popular name. But it's the name of the article, so that's what I wanted to go with. I can run AWB to populate later tonight, if I have time. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Name of position is Thomaskantor, name of choir is Thomanerchor (see talk), name of school should be Thomasschule, but I learned (at least up to a certain point) when a fight is useless. How about a sentence in the cat clarifying that it is not any St. Thomas School, but THE Thomasschule, where Bach taught, and the others? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Could you do it, please? I've run into a vandal on the category page - Category:St. Thomas School, Leipzig - and I don't want to hit WP:3RR cleaning up after him. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:01, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Went ahead and blocked him - I can continue now. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. (But you can revert vandalism without counting. I just reverted the same on the church article.) Any admin watching? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked for a bit of help - should be taken care of now. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was blind ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well, it's quieted down, and I've made a start on things. Not sure when/if I'll be able to finish the lot. Not until tonight at the earliest. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:28, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Eltomas2003[edit]

Hi Gerda, your ping at this user's talk page didn't work for some reason. I just now saw your message so I do apologize. I appreciate your offer to mentor him, but I suggest your efforts may be better spent elsewhere. He was not blocked because he couldn't follow the rules at WP:FAC, although that may be a byproduct of his youth/immaturity or a language barrier. He was blocked because he was unwilling to listen to any kind of advice or instructions, and his reaction to attempts at guiding him were to vandalize the articles he was working on (see here and here to start, but there are others including image vandalism). I don't think he possesses the maturity (and possibly the English fluency) to contribute constructively here. --Laser brain (talk) 19:10, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point, Laser brain, which is shared by Iridescent who said "There comes a point when Assume Good Faith runs out and you have to accept that someone is never going to be willing to stop being disruptive.". Well, I came to see who the user was who translated a FA to Spanish, and - as I saw then - also the other one with the unspeakably long name. I saw that the user did strange, erratic, incomprehensible things, - I had reverted one of his page moves (I assume Tomas means male), but didn't remember the name when I returned, - can't remember all names of vandals I revert. I see that the person seems to speak Spanish better than English, signed on only recently, may have been born in 2003, and did some things with good intentions, - which is enough for me to not give him up yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As always, your positive attitude is a model for as all to aspire to. Have a great week! --Laser brain (talk) 12:36, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK review of Emil Fröschels[edit]

Thanks for your DYK review of Emil Fröschels. I've responded on the DYK page. I also just translated another article and nominated it for DYK: Sainte-Anne Hospital Center, a hospital in Paris with historical significance. Thank you very much for your kind attention and suggestions. Robert K S (talk) 07:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anniversary[edit]

Dear Gerda, Thankyou for my Precious Anniversary greeting, and a Happy New Year to you. I am not sure that I always display the virtue for which the blue gem was awarded, but then six years is a long time in which to be consistently wise (especially given some of this year's vicissitudes). I seem to have got some writing done this year, anyhow, all rather historico-biographical. One of these days I must get back to a few more missing musicians. Very best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 22:51, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I echo this. Thanks for not giving up on some of us old grumpy Wikipedians. Sometimes a simple thank you can really motivate someone in burn out. Dave (talk) 06:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You made my day! A good anyway, with another lovely Main page, - I reviewed and nominated the TFA, and I sang in the last concert of the conductor mentioned below, who chose the Brahms Requiem on a Good Friday, invited "my" then choir to sing along with the Opernchor, wanted to see us all in white but knew he would not get it. "Ihr habt nun Traurigkeit". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Karl Maria Zwißler[edit]

On 9 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Karl Maria Zwißler, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Nazi Germany, Karl Maria Zwißler conducted major works by composer Igor Stravinsky regarded as degenerate music, including the ballet The Firebird and the German premiere of Dumbarton Oaks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Karl Maria Zwißler. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Karl Maria Zwißler), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Smaug alert[edit]

Thanks so much for the kind words. The hot rods & customs are dear to my heart, & the coverage on WP is pretty awful... Any help you can offer on, frex, Hirohata Merc, hot rod, custom car, or any of the drag racing pages, would be more than welcome. (I ask everybody who shows the slightest interest. ;p ) Gollum ^{mine, all mine!} 23:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly my field of expertise, but on my watchlist now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Alessandro Solbiati[edit]

On 11 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alessandro Solbiati, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the third opera by Alessandro Solbiati, Il suono giallo, is based on Wassily Kandinsky's experimental play The Yellow Sound and premiered in Bologna in 2015? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alessandro Solbiati. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alessandro Solbiati), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Box problem[edit]

Hi Gerda! As I'm not too familiar with boxes, I though you might be able to help with the one on Alincia Williams-Grant. It links to "United States Senator" but I can find nothing in the box providing that link. Perhaps you can fix the problem?--Ipigott (talk) 14:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ipigott I am not at all familiar with politicians, but looked around. Usually, senators have infobox officeholder, which has a parameter |state_senate1 = insert state". Now she is president, and has infobox president. I don't know if she could also have the other, - president is also an office ;) - Looking further: it's the line "|jr/sr1 = Director, Board of Directors of the Antigua Commercial Bank (ACB)" which causes the entry, which I commented out for now. - Help, anybody looking? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Gerda. It now looks fine. Amazing what can turn up unexpectedly. The box sequence obviously needs attention to avoid similar problems in future but I have no idea who is reponsible for such things.--Ipigott (talk) 16:11, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First I'd look at the (not too good) documentation, for how that other function could show. Then you could look in the history of the template, and/or the talk, whom to ask. Simpler: ask on the template talk. - Now I laughed: officeholder and President are the same. - Another point: red links in a box should be avoided, - no problem in the article, but there I didn't see it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Castellania, Valletta[edit]

Gerda Arendt please note that the Castellania (Valletta) article is mainly my work, even though the article was not created by me. I received some assistance from Xwejnusgozo at some point, who is the administrator. Please feel free to improve the article and other articles about Malta. Thanks.Continentaleurope (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Siegfried Lorenz (baritone)[edit]

On 12 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Siegfried Lorenz (baritone), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Siegfried Lorenz, the first lyrical baritone of the Berlin State Opera, recorded 151 songs by Schubert and sang "with an enviable control of line and dynamics", according to Alan Blyth? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Siegfried Lorenz (baritone). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Siegfried Lorenz (baritone)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:38, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review of Faith in Buddhism[edit]

I would appreciate your input here before I submit this for FA. Thanks!--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:22, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the invitation. I'll do that but you'll need patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good Lord[edit]

Has it really been that long? How time flies. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Lo dicono a Signa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Aplerbeck[edit]

On 16 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aplerbeck, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Aplerbeck, now part of Dortmund, is associated with two legendary martyrs and a regional psychiatric clinic founded in 1890? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aplerbeck. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Aplerbeck), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RealSound[edit]

Gerda, do you know of RealSound (RS) is a generally known classical record label in Europe? I have a feeling it may be notable, but I've never heard of it. Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:59, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard of them, but that means nothing. Will look, but am on vacation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Enjoy your time off! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Phoenix Arising[edit]

On 18 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Phoenix Arising, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Phoenix Arising for bassoon and piano was composed by Graham Waterhouse (pictured) in memory of his father, the bassoonist William Waterhouse, who believed in his instrument's "broad expressive possibilities"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Phoenix Arising. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Phoenix Arising), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Cloisters[edit]

First of all, I appreciate your post on my talk and elsewhere this morning; I think you hit the nail on the head and I take your point. Anyhow, ts over now. Second of all (ahem), any interest in helping with the PR review for the Cloisters...after your vacation of course, but would be glad of your input and views. Ceoil (talk) 10:57, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Today's hike over, up to a mountain. - I will look at the Cloisters, my pleasure, it's a place I love. I remember a concert of early music there, when the same man sang both countertenor and bass. - There's a good thread on Eric's talk, where the frustrated meet for letting steam off ;) - Did you know that Eric coined the term "cabal of the outcasts", in 2013? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ps: In 2013, I got sanctioned because I defended a friend, Andy. Today, you got blocked because you defended a friend, Cassianto. ignore ignore ignore, - let's write articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well I certainly feel like an outcast, but "let's write articles" is the perfect solution, as always. Onwards Gerda. Ceoil (talk) 12:17, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A hook with a sic tag[edit]

For this hook there is an editor suggesting a hook with a sic tag in it. The hook does appear interesting. What's your take on this?--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, ich danke dir herzlich für deine Kommentar[edit]

This is the first time in long years that I receive such a nice, sweet and warm comment, namely the one you placed on my Talk Page. After several years of frustration and disappointment with Wikipedia, where I've had many edits and some articles vandalized, erased, distorted, challenged, or otherwise threatened, it is comforting to encounter a caring soul like you. Just...what is a sweet nice girl like you doing in a hostile place like this?

I can see your zeal and dedication to classical music, especially that from your compatriots. I myself am a devoted fan of Johann Sebastian since I was 11 and learned my first exercises authored by him. I cannot stop enjoying his music, and among the many performing artists that have made it available to us, I have a special regard for Wendy Carlos and her extraordinary renderings, particularly her Switched-On Brandenburgs albums.

Note: I had long forgotten that reference I had added to the Joseph Jongen article, I just was (and still am) proud of having added the word "monumental" to the opening paragraph about his Symphonie Concertante, which it well deserves.

Well, to make this short, it's been a pleasure to meet you, even if you are a nine-year-old girl (which I don't believe or understand, but accept nonetheless). :)

Thank you! --AVM (talk) 02:19, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! What a nice message to wake up to! - I make music here, normally related to what I sing in choirs, Look at my infobox: who is 9 years old? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you![edit]

You just made my day! --Maor X (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Love to hear that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No thanks[edit]

Greetings. Any idea if giving thanks to a contributor for their edit is no longer a function? I can't seem to find a way to do that. Thanks. -The Gnome (talk) 18:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't work, and some are working on it. I get that message first thing when I open my watchlist. I stopped giving clicks, at least for a certain topic, because I didn't like the analysis ;) - Did you know that a "low" was reached when I clicked thanks to a person for this edit? - I enjoy good old written thanks as just above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to know it isn't just me being thankless! Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 20:37, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Darkness Shines[edit]

Gerda, can you tell me what this is all about please before I revert it. The edit summary is insufficient, and as far as I know, Sitush is not an admin. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:24, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kudpung, there's no reason - as far as I know - not to tell our readers about a user whose edits they may encounter. Would you understand Sitush's edit summary? I will not fight, it's just sad. Ah how futile ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ps: Tony, you asked if all is well with me. No, it isn't. Vacation is great. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks as if someone else has already reverted you - and they have my support. Tchja - Admins auf eigene Gefahr zurücksetzen! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:24, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

... which was reverted by another admin who has my support. I am in no danger, just sad. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And, though Bish has re-reverted, I will note that, we generally leave user-page blanking to the discretion of enacting-sysop.~ Winged Blades^Godric 11:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think I am interested? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is inspiring! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} ‑ ‑ 11:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I am glad the vacation is treating you well, at least. I need to go on one myself. I was thinking a nice desert somewhere: those are always nice this time of year. Always good to run into you, Gerda, whatever the circumstances . TonyBallioni (talk) 11:31, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I love the deserts of the southwest. Good for introspection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If I may, I also support Bishonen's action. This is an area for nuance, not for some rigid "But The Rulez Sez So" knee-jerk response...there are community bans and then there are community bans; we do not—should not—treat editors with many positive contributions and 132 articles to their name like some salted LTA...it was a sad story, and now it's over. >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 11:56, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In archiving, I read again "It's easy to remember the bad that has been done to us, but we have to call ourselves again and again to remember the good we received." (Psalm 103:2) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cyberpower, better late than never, I invite you to read the above, and perhaps next time leave a user page in place which is informative for our readers who may want to know about the person whose edits they encounter. - DYK that back in 2012, we had a community ban which made me feel that I wasn't part of the community? - That's when I added the cat to my user page "... who took the liberty to stay" which is there to stay, and called the process "pride and prejudice". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

no title[edit]

please stop deleting my posts I am only doing it for a class if you want to delete it by all means go for it but leave it up for 1 week then delete away I don't care about the submission at all in any way I have never used wiki in my life and I wont after this stop being a jerk and let me get my grade in class — Preceding unsigned comment added by Athsquare (talk • contribs) 23:46, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"replied" your talk before you came here. - Adding: if adding speculations to a biography under the header "After life" (after Ian Rose told you to at least use the standard "Legacy") gets you a grade something is wrong with your teachers, sorry. Also, for your next round of edit-warring: you don't have to tell me to stop because I believe that friends will help me, - that is called 1RR - only one revert, unless it's severe vandalism. Your speculations were only borderline. - Have a good day, and think about it. There's an image on top mentioning introspection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is hilarious.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Christopher White (pianist)[edit]

On 25 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christopher White (pianist), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that pianist Christopher White arranged four movements of Mahler's unfinished Tenth Symphony for his instrument and made a recording at Rosslyn Hill Unitarian Chapel, Hampstead? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christopher White (pianist). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Christopher White (pianist)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Images Faith in Buddhism checked[edit]

I have checked the images in the article Faith in Buddhism, and I have added tags where necessary. I think it is okay now, though I am not an expert on copyright.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Our expert is Nikkimaria. This is for peer review, going for FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever you're showing something three-dimensional, you need to know whether the country of origin has freedom of panorama, and if no you must include a tag for the original work as well as the photo. Also, when you're showing something two-dimensional, under US copyright law the photographer gets no copyright – it is all the original author. So for example the photographer has no right to release File:Manjusri_Painted.jpg, it depends on the wishes of the artist. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Nikkimaria. I'll recheck and try to fix.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 15:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not directly related to Faith in Buddhism, but related to the freedom of panorama: Nikkimaria, would you say a relief like File:Sariputra_and_Maudgalyayana_become_disciples_of_Buddha_Roundel_31_buddha_ivory_tusk.jpg falls under freedom of panorama in India? I am uncertain whether it is considered 2d or 3d.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 19:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pending an answer to my question above, I'd also like to state that I checked the article Faith in Buddhism and found one image with no copyright of the original author, as you already mentioned, and three images from countries with limited freedom of panorama. One of these was uploaded by a user that has retired, and can therefore not be asked about it. I have therefore removed it. Two other images involve statues that might have been recently built, and I am checking with the uploaders when they were built now. This concerns the images File:Maitreya_Buddha.jpg and File:Seiryô-ji Buddhist Temple - Statue of Hônen.jpg. So... to be continued.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 21:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of copying this conversation to the article talk? - I'll archive soon, trying to keep no more than 50 messages. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done, and continued there.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 22:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for St. Lubentius, Dietkirchen[edit]

On 26 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Lubentius, Dietkirchen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the youngest bell of St. Lubentius, Dietkirchen, a Romanesque church on a rock, was consecrated by Pope John Paul II? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Lubentius, Dietkirchen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, St. Lubentius, Dietkirchen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229[edit]

On 26 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bach's motet Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229 (Come, Jesus, come) sets lyrics by Paul Thymich, scored for a double choir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Francis does it again[edit]

Hi Gerda,

Francis Schonken has removed one of my edit because "it doesn't seem like a prominent example". See Talk:Responsories for Holy Week Removed because not a prominent example?. Please let me know what you think about it.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to pursue it, find a solid reference. What do you think of the neat tags on An Wasserflüssen Babylon? Someone seems to have too much time, while I have too little. - Funny, I wrote the Poulenc articles mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pieter-Jan Belder[edit]

On 27 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pieter-Jan Belder, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that harpsichordist Pieter-Jan Belder recorded the complete Fitzwilliam Virginal Book, and Telemann's complete Tafelmusik with his ensemble Musica Amphion? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pieter-Jan Belder. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pieter-Jan Belder), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dmitry Belosselskiy[edit]

On 28 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dmitry Belosselskiy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the bass Dmitry Belosselskiy appeared internationally in title roles, as Boris Godunov, Macbeth, Simon Boccanegra, and Ivan Susanin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dmitry Belosselskiy. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dmitry Belosselskiy), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Gerda[edit]

Thanks for your supportive words and best wishes from snowy London. Mick gold (talk) 08:27, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for coming over. Sunny but icy where I am. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Happy St. David's Day[edit]

The leek is one of the national emblems of Wales, worn along with the daffodil (in Welsh, the daffodil is known as "Peter's leek", Cenhinen Bedr) on St. David's Day. According to one legend, King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd ordered his soldiers to identify themselves by wearing the vegetable on their helmets in an ancient battle against the Saxons that took place in a leek field.^[1] Cheers!‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones ^{The Welsh Buzzard} ‑ ‑ 15:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ The Mirror of Literature, Amusement, and Instruction. Vol. 5. London: J Limbard. 1825.

Thank you! and I didn't even know all that when I began an article on a David today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I enjoyed and was touched[edit]

getting up this morning and discovering your precious memory. Or more precisely, my precious memory. In keeping with a few other precious memories and traditions, here is My View at the Phoenix AZ, USA annual Icelinders Bash (my name, not theirs). It (your post) is a reminder that I have left a large sculpture project only half full and should return to it. Carptrash (talk) 16:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - I have a psalm project only begun, and should continue. How lovely is your dwelling place, was on my mind in the desert (my view, pictured on top), but I lift up my eyes to the mountains might fit even better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A premiere recording of Bruckner's Entsagen[edit]

A premiere recording of Bruckner's cantata Entsagen, WAB 14 (16 February 2018) by the Coro "De Musica Antiqua" de Salamanca with Maria Espada (soprano) can be heard on Youtube: Bruckner - Entsagen --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for telling me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Anny Felbermayer[edit]

On 1 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anny Felbermayer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the lyric soprano Anny Felbermayer, who performed 54 roles at the Vienna State Opera, created the role of Xanthe in Die Liebe der Danae by Richard Strauss at the 1952 Salzburg Festival? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anny Felbermayer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Anny Felbermayer), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Danka[edit]

I keep finding your signature in various places, following a sane comment in the midst of strife. Just wanted to reach out and say thanks, and also for Brahms' birthday, as well as all of the musical information and shared joy. Much needed. Under-appreciated. rags (talk) 00:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Music in my ears, very welcome, especially "shared joy". How lovely ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How do you do it[edit]

I've never been foolish enough to take my scaly WikiDragon hide above the clouds into the WikiHeavens - I only ever see burning planes falling from those clouds to crash in the WikiFields. Sometimes I ~~see~~ hear the gunfire of the editors above, but then Dr. Blofeld's plane crashed in the sward before my mountain, and I didn't even see Jaguar's end. I'd seen on your talk page and a couple of others people thanking you for your levelheadedness, and I have to wonder - how to manage the insanity that apparently lives beneath the floorboards of Wikipedia? What happens if you can't any longer? –Vami _IV✠ 08:50, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


spirale of justice

What you call insanity is just our human condition, described well on this 1510 image. What I do? I was made immune when I survived the first pride and prejudice when a friend who gave up was banned by the community afterwards. I felt that I didn't belong to such a community, and felt the urge to leave, but then thought that some would just love that, and decided to stay. From then on (we talk October 2012), it was easier to ignore ignore ignore minor things. Dr. Blofeld has called me a princess and a monster, so I have mixed emotions. Also, he always returned after a while, so far. Same for Jaguar. I miss GFHandel who left us in 2013, and never returned. We just had the birthday of Handel, who wrote He was despised (see above, and follow the links) in 1741, on a text by Isaiah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Well, I won't ever leave if you don't. ;) –Vami _IV✠ 09:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Johannes Hill for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Johannes Hill is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johannes Hill until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. PabloMartinez (talk) 18:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Der Gemischte Chor Zürich[edit]

On 4 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Der Gemischte Chor Zürich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Der Gemischte Chor Zürich sang the premiere of Nänie in 1881, conducted by its composer Johannes Brahms, and the premiere of a commission by Edward Rushton in 2013 for the choir's 150th anniversary? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Der Gemischte Chor Zürich. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Der Gemischte Chor Zürich), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you have a quick look at the two cite errors? Agathoclea (talk) 09:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Possible DYK for nice image[edit]

The last page of the autograph manuscript, BWV 769a, the closing bars of the *canon per augumentationem*. It ends manuscript collection P 271 with the surviving fragment of the so-called "deathbed chorale", *Vor deinen Thron tret' ich*, BWV 668 (not in Bach's handwriting).

This very recently downloaded image and a carefully written of the caption might be something that you might quite like, possibly as a DYK. Peter Williams describes these as "one of the best bars in the whole of P 271".

Best wishes, Mathsci (talk) 12:17, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Hopefully no rush, March is reserved to mostly women (look today at Miriam Makeba, pictured above) and Lent and Easter. - Any expansion (as long as sourced) to An Wasserflüssen Babylon welcome, nominated with another such image (not as clear though). That's an article that could eventually go to GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

During my recovery from stroke, the first thing I tried to read (with huge difficulty) was Psalm 137 on News Year's Day. I am not quite sure why you wrote Psalm 84. An Wasserflüssen Babylon was the first piece I played on the chapel organ on BWV 653 the day after being discharged. Mathsci (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing the wrong number out, - the other was on my mind in the desert (pictured above) - no rivers. - Touching, your personal memories, thank you for sharing. Would you know where to find a translation of 137? When I search for the translator, I get only other hymns, and the remark that his poetry was not so great. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article Psalm 137 and the wikisource are fine. The King James Bible forms part of the Protestant heritage. Perhaps the lines could be broken up into shorter fragments to match Luther's version. Mathsci (talk) 14:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dachstein's version? - Yes, could be broken up, - I added the psalm verses only yesterday, and think today more of women and singing in defiance - Ich steh hier und singe was and is my only defense. (See above a short summary of how I manage to still be here. It's one of these days that I wonder why.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are actually six verses (the 6th is just the standard blessing, Ehr sie dem Vater und dem Sohn, und auch dem Heilgen Geiste, ...). For a literal version see Anne Leahey's translation (Chapter 2 in J. S. Bach's "Leipzig" Chorale Preludes: Music, Text, Theology) which is mostly based on Mark Bighley's 1986 book, The Lutheran Chorales in the Works of J.S. Bach. You could also make an English variant of the literal version which doesn't sound too slilted in addition to the King James version. There is also the Latin version, Super flumina Babylonis. There is furthermore an online OUP version of Stinson's "J.S. Bach's Great Eighteen Organ Chorales", which could be useful. (By this stage there might well be online options such as a singing "google button" or even perhaps a "surgically implanted microchip".) Mathsci (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum[edit]

On 5 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum was founded in 1979 by Max Pommer and members of the Gewandhausorchester after Bach's model? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you[edit]

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For spreading good will, good wishes, and good thoughts for so many years. You have such a good influence here. And also, thank you for Der Gemischte Chor Zürich. You are wonderful! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:15, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Miriam Makeba

Thank you, good timing! I try, and try (failed), and try (we'll see). - Now tell me how to get kind to myself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kind to yourself? Have a chocolate milk, obviously. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And not some store-bought Quick. Pure Dutch-processed coco and white sugar 50%-50% in a bottle, shaken, left in the fridge, and shaken again. Lovely! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:08, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) Would you tell the singer? - Kind in the sense of forgiving, I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ps: reading Nänie (the poem) helped somewhat, - promised myself to expand that article on my mom's anniversary of death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I think I see what you mean now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Playing Bach's Sinfonia in F minor also helped somewhat, corresponding to what Mathsci wrote above about recovery, and writing the article when all say no. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anna is right about the chocolate, though I prefer it warmed. I wish I had some good music to post. Still looking for something just for you that is okay to post. Kafka Liz (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]