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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
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  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
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January 3

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January 3, 2025 (2025-01-03) (Friday)

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Business and economy

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: Britt Allcroft

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Article: Britt Allcroft (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Evening Standard
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Date death announced. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 16:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Devastating eruption located

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SNOW closing (volcanic winter snow?), since there is a clear consensus that this will not get posted. If expanded enough, DYK is a good alternative. --Tone 14:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Zavaritski Caldera (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The site of the volcanic eruption (pictured) which caused blue suns and global famine has been identified. (Post)
News source(s): AAAS, Jerusalem Post
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: A long-standing mystery has been solved. There's still work to do on expanding the article and updating related topics such as Graham Island and Little Ice Age volcanism. Those who measure significance by deaths should note that the resulting famines such as the Tenpō famine caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the blurb: Average reader would not understand what is this even about, at least in first few glances. Blue suns? Should be wikilinked, googling it gives weird things. Which global famine(s)? Too vague. If it is about some 1831 global climate catastrophe, does Wikipedia have an article about or related to it? Googling 'Zavaritski Caldera' on news tab currently only serves one news item by daily mail. It should first be reported by few major general news media outlets so that we may 'it is in news'. I don't say it is not interesting, but very confusing. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 11:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The meteorological use of Blue sun doesn't have an article, but it probably could, there's enough material out there i.e. [1]. Meanwhile, the article is a stub and I don't see it significantly in the news at the moment. Black Kite (talk) 12:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was working on getting this started but got an edit conflict. Will leave it for now but my impression is that there's lots of work to be done around this. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: the article is still a stub, and the blurb is not clear for non-initiated readers. Cambalachero (talk) 13:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Using the Little Ice Age article as a reference, there's multiple volcanic events that contributed to the changing climate from 1600-1900, and while discovering one of the sources is of scientific interest, this is not as key a breakthrough as the blurb seems to want to suggest. --Masem (t) 13:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to target article length/overall quality and a far too vague blurb for the average reader. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 13:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This is a proposed (unconfirmed) interpretation of an event that happened in 1831. It's a mildly interesting result but has no major impact. I don't think this reaches the level of significance or broad interest that would merit an ITN blurb. In addition, the article is a stub with a single reference. We don't seem to have any article about the 1831 atmospheric phenomena, just a single bullet point in Little_Ice_Age_volcanism#1809–1831 - an indication that the event wasn't particularly influential or historically significant. Modest Genius talk 14:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Tariana Turia

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Article: Tariana Turia (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RNZ, The NZ Herald
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Co-founder of Te Pāti Māori MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 2

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January 2, 2025 (2025-01-02) (Thursday)

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Business and economy

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Science and technology

RD: Rosita Missoni

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Article: Rosita Missoni (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, NY Times
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian knitwear designer. With her husband Ottavio Missoni, she co-founded Italian luxury fashion house Missoni. Death reported 2 January. Thriley (talk) 19:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ján Zachara

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Article: Ján Zachara (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Vo veku 96 rokov zomrel bývalý slovenský boxer a olympijský víťaz Ján Zachara". Denník N (in Slovak). 2 January 2025. "Legendary boxer Ján Zachara passed away". rtvs.sk. Retrieved 2025-01-02.
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 1952 Olympic gold medalist, died on the same day as another 1952 gold medalist (Ágnes Keleti) Di (they-them) (talk) 16:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ágnes Keleti

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Article: Ágnes Keleti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1] blikk portfolio hvg
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The oldest living Olympian in history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.44.118.57 (talk) 07:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Second and and third citation above from Spworld2 (talk · contribs)'s duplicate nomination. His comment was
Ágnes Keleti has died, at the age of 104 , Hungarian Olympic champion, gymnast and Sportswoman. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 09:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Actually, she wasn't the oldest at the time of her death. Both Yvonne Chabot-Curtet and Iris Cummings were older then Ágnes Keleti. She was the oldest living champion, however. But its almost there, the article. TheCorriynial (talk) 10:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, she's a notable Hungarian athlete who not only won 10 Olympic medals, but was also inducted into the International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame, the Hungarian Sports Hall of Fame, the International Women's Sports Hall of Fame, and the International Gymnastics Hall of Fame. Di (they-them) (talk) 16:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Yoav Gallant resigns from Israel parliament

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This won't gain consensus. Schwede66 19:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Yoav Gallant (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yoav Gallant, member of the Israel Parliament (pictured), resigns at the age of 66, after being fired in November. (Post)
News source(s): NDTV The Times Of Israel
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet. ArPerfectlyEdits (talk) 14:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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January 1

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January 1, 2025 (2025-01-01) (Wednesday)

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RD : Wayne Osmond

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Article: Wayne Osmond (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS, YourErie, ABC
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 The AP (talk) 08:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2025 Trump International Hotel explosion

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Consensus to post will not develop. (non-admin closure) 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 08:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Trump International Hotel Las Vegas Tesla Cybertruck explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ One person is killed and seven others are injured when a Tesla Cybertruck explodes (pictured) outside of the Trump International Hotel Las Vegas in Paradise, Nevada, United States. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times BBC ABC News
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 Spworld2 (talk) 09:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Djprasadian (talk) 11:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Vice President Elect Musk has "broken silence" to reassure us that Tesla Cybertrucks are perfectly safe. But he is still alive. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The police are saying this is likely a Suicide. I'm horrified that people keep recreating the article and reopening the discussion, when this was pretty obviously a good likelihood at the time this discussion was reopened! Close this abortion now. Nfitz (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Schengen Area expansion

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Article: Schengen Area (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Romania and Bulgaria join the Schengen Area, the European passport-free zone. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Romania and Bulgaria join the Schengen Area and lift land border checks.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Romania and Bulgaria both become full members of the Schengen Area.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Romania and Bulgaria both become full members of the Schengen Area by removing land border checks, seven months after their initial admission.
News source(s): CNN, Reuters
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Support, I would argue that any changes to the composition of the Schengen Area are inherently relevant as the largest area with free movement in the world, and for years it has been a major topic of discussion here in the European Union that Romania and Bulgaria were the last EU members to not have been admitted (excl. Ireland who have an opt-out) because of a veto from Austria in the Council of the European Union. So it was very significant when the vote finally passed last month in the Justice and Home Affairs Council.
However, that wording is probably not ideal—in a legal sense, Romania and Bulgaria joined the Schengen Area on 31 March 2024 when border controls were lifted for air and sea travel. The news are that land border checks have also just been lifted, granting the countries full participation on the same level as all other 27 member states.
So I would propose re-phrasing the blurb to something like Romania and Bulgaria become full members of the Schengen Area, with land border checks lifted on 1 January 2025.
BochiBochiGalaxy (talk) 05:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but agree with BochiBochiGalaxy, so also added altblurb 1. Yo.dazo (talk) 10:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability This is a major change in international policy. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT1 as a major change in policy that is in the news, so meets WP:ITNSIGNIF. And target article has enough information about this event to pass WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - 2 nations joining the Schengen isn't that exciting. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 20:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NB: Since I made the above post, the blurbs have been edited by another user to be more verbose than they were previously. I liked the conciseness of alt2, which is why I voted for it. The current alt2 is not what I voted for; I would support the original blurb in preference to it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 00:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GenevieveDEon: I've restored altblurb2 and moved the appended altblurb2 to a new altblurb since it was significantly appended by another editor without my knowledge. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 02:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John B. O'Reilly Jr.

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Article: John B. O'Reilly Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 6th mayor of Dearborn, Michigan. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • In its current form, the article isn't ready. Date and place of birth are unreferenced. There is absolutely nothing about his early life, education, or work history. Schwede66 19:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Chad Morgan

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Article: Chad Morgan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-02/chad-morgan-australian-country-music-singer-dies/104778248
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian comedy country music performer known as "The Sheik of Scrubby Creek". HiLo48 (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Cetinje shootings

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Article: 2025 Cetinje shootings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thirteen people including the perpetrator are killed and four others are injured in spree shootings in Cetinje, Montenegro. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Thirteen are killed in spree shootings in Cetinje, Montenegro. The shootings are the deadliest in Montenegro since 1944 during Nazi occupation.
News source(s): [10]
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@Departure– Changed it once more to deadliest shooting in Montenegro since 1944. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's almost certainly not relevant. "Deadliest since X" isn't needed in a blurb. Departure– (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Departure– Please clarify if I am wrong but doesn't blurb mean short description? SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Blurbs are almost always a single sentence and typically don't contain context in the blurb. For instance, we wouldn't have the second sentence read "Shootings in Montenegro are rare due to strict gun laws" either - that can be implied from the source or the article. Departure– (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I turned SSCG's changes into an altblurb. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no indication this this is the deadliest shooting since "Workd War II (sic)". And this isn't stated in the article. Nfitz (talk) 19:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The government of Montenegro declared three days of mourning, which is a sign that this is a serious incident on national level. Furthermore, there's no reason why lives of Americans should be valued more than lives of Montenegrins as we already have a similar incident in New Orleans posted on the main page. After careful examination, there's indication that the opposition to this nomination on significance comes from editors who regularly support shootings in the US and complain about anti-American bias when they don’t succeed.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please answer the question. I'm not sure what the USA has to do with this. The nomination is seriously flawed - that's the issue I have. Nfitz (talk) 21:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Nfitz: You state that something isn’t the case without providing any evidence that proves the contrary. The 2022 Cetinje shooting you’re referring to had 11 deaths, which is clearly less than 13 deaths in this one. Moreover, there were no murders of Albanians in Montenegro during the 1990s. Montenegro was part of Yugoslavia whose authorities committed murders in Kosovo. You’re welcome to provide additional evidence if you don’t agree with it. There are reliable sources reporting this as ‘the greatest massacre’ in the history of Montenegro (see this as an example), so you need to better elaborate your view that it’s not the case. After all, we typically don’t include such lines in the blurbs we post, so this is a relatively minor issue considering how the story is unfolding (there are three days of mourning, and a country-wide gun ban was proposed).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you are say that there were no murders of Albanians (contrary to our own Encyclopaedia), I have concerns. My point here is that the article nowhere mentions that this is the deadliest shooting since Work War II, itsslf (sic). Surely, User:Kiril Simeonovski, looking at the article makes that clear (at least at the time that posted). The deaths are indeed now higher than the other recent shooting in this town; I don't see the relevance to my comment. Nfitz (talk) 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Nfitz: I think you should learn some geography and history before participating in such discussions with claims that what you don’t like is flawed (note first that Montenegro and Albania are different countries that haven’t been part of the same political entity over the past 100 years).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, of Albanians. There's no reason to be rude, and for you to violate one of Wikipedia's most basic principles, just because I've correctly pointed out that the article didn't mention that it was the biggest shooting since World War II. Nfitz (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not rude, just honest, and I wasn't bothered by your repeated sarcasm ("Workd War II (sic)"). Fair enough. Let's leave some room for others in this discussion.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the situation in New Orleans is significantly different than the situation in Montenegro. Namely, the one in New Orleans is a terrorist attack, while this is a domestic violence incident that became a spree shooting. Would you support posting a similar shooting that happened in the US? Personally, I would not. Also, please don't cast aspersions, I do not appreciate your insinuations. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 22:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Rockstone35: Is there a specific Wikipedia policy that terrorist attacks should be assigned higher significance in ITN nominations? Innocent people died in both incidents, so the motives shouldn’t matter.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kiril Simeonovski: there isn't a specific policy that we shouldn't include mass shootings in countries where they're common, and yet that's consistently what happens, so I don't know what your point is. If the motive doesn't matter, then neither should how often it happens or where. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 00:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My point is that you cannot dismiss a shooting if it’s not a terrorist attack as we don’t have such policy. There are other indicators of notability, such as public response and policies. If there are days of mourning and proposals for country-wide gun ban, then it’s clear that this is a serious incident that affects the whole society.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The main reason I opposed posting was because these types of shootings are routinely not posted if they happen in the US, despite the fact that they had the same number of deaths. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 15:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on Quality. Significance seems to be there, but as many of noted, the article is fairly short. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - While the article would still benefit from expansion, it's just about sufficient. Despite the fact that Cetinje has had two of them in four years, shootings of this kind are generally very rare in Europe, and this is clearly more than noteworthy. I am not impressed by arguments attempting to differentiate the New Orleans killings from these by applying the politicised label of 'terrorism'; in a murder on this scale, the puported reason for the killings should not generally be a deciding factor in whether to post. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - As noted above, the article is short and could benefit from more people writing to expand it, but it is more than enough to understand the event. Regardless of whether Cetinje was unlucky enough to have two modern shootings, these shootings are still extraordinarily rare in Europe. I will also note that I do not understand why so many people have tried to argue on the semantics of the word terrorism when twelve people have died, and that to most of the world this and the New Orleans terrorist attack have equal relevance – I think there is very clear U.S.-centrism at display in this discussion. BochiBochiGalaxy (talk) 05:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It isn't Americentricism, please don't cast aspersions. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 15:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability; weak support on quality per GenevieveDEon and BochiBochiGalaxy. The article could and should be further expanded, but I think it conveys the basics of what happened sufficiently with some recent additions by editors. It is a landmark mass casualty event for a country that has caused a day of national mourning. The ripple effects of the shooting are also spurring a nationwide conversation about banning firearms. The call for gun reform are in turn attracting global news coverage, e.g. from the Washington Post to the Toronto Star. Opposing votes have mentioned the attack being motivated by mental health or family issues, but I point out these were also motivations of the Sandy Hook or Aurora shooters in the USA, attacks which had a lasting impact and which we did post without question. A non-terror motive does not negate that it is an impactful event, with casualties, that is leading to global media coverage. FlipandFlopped ツ 18:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 New Orleans truck attack

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Article: 2025 New Orleans truck attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 11 people are killed and 36 others are injured in a vehicle-ramming and shooting attack in New Orleans, Louisiana (street pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Eleven people are killed and thirty-six others are injured in a vehicle-ramming and shooting attack in New Orleans, Louisiana (intersection pictured).
News source(s): [11][12][13]
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(Closed) 2025 Trump Tower fire

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Withdrawn by nom. (non-admin closure) 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 21:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 Trump tower explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A cybertruck catches on fire near the Trump Tower with casulaties still unknown. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-trump-tower-explosion-horror-34403879]
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@Nfitz I assumed it was a terrorist attack given that another one happened in New Orleans just a few hours ago. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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December 31

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RD: Fraser Stoddart

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Article: Fraser Stoddart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Twente University
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Nobel Prize laureate in chemistry in the fields supramolecular chemistry and nanotechnology. Grimes2 (talk) 13:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jocelyn Wildenstein

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Article: Jocelyn Wildenstein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Swiss socialite best known for her extensive cosmetic surgery. 240F:7A:6253:1:58D9:DCBF:4F69:EC26 (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Arnold Rüütel

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Article: Arnold Rüütel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [14]
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: 3rd President of Estonia from 2001–2006. 2A00:807:C7:C82A:2859:B355:BAAD:86AD (talk) 04:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not Ready Multiple CN tags --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Angelo Amato

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Article: Angelo Amato (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [15]
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Italian cardinal who died yesterday. History6042😊 (Contact me) 04:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added ISBNs Grimes2 (talk) 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Johnnie Walker

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Article: Johnnie Walker (DJ) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: English disc jockey. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 16:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support He seems to be quite popular as a DJ, including winning many awards. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Curbon7 (talk) 12:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: currently 18 {cn} tags. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2024 United States Treasury Hack

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Good faith nom. However, consensus to post will not develop. – robertsky (talk) 02:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2024 United States Department of the Treasury hack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Chinese Communist Party hacks into the United States Treasury, stealing valuable data (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United States Department of the Treasury states that it was hacked by a Chinese intelligence agency.
News source(s): (Reuters)
Credits:
  • Oppose First, that blurb is extremely misleading on two angles: Chinese hackers are suspected, but there's not yet any connection to the CCP. Second, the data took was "unclassified documents", which means it is unlikely to be "valuable" data from the Treasure department. As such, this is nowhere close to a major scandle, they just had to report it after reporting it to Congress. At this point, its not a significant incident. --Masem (t) 01:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Masem To your first point, yes that is true, a "suspicion" but 99% likely CCP hackers. Secondly, unclassified does not mean publicly available data, there are unclassified documents in the military, but that does not mean you can go around looking at it. Also the extent of the hack is still unreported. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 01:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nonetheless I will still leave it up to garner a community census. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 01:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which is why at this point, how significant this is is unknown, particularly compared to the phone network hacks earlier this previous month. As this happened earlier this month and only being reported on now, we should wait until we see if there's a serious diplomatic issue that develops. Masem (t) 01:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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December 30

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RD: Jorge Lanata

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Article: Jorge Lanata (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Journalist from Argentina. It too me a pair of days to post this, as the article was mostly unreferenced and had to basically use WP:TNT. I hope that it is ready for RD status. Cambalachero (talk) 02:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Michael Newberry

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Article: Michael Newberry (footballer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTE, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: English-born Northern Irish footballer  The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 10:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jamshid bin Abdullah

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Article: Jamshid bin Abdullah of Zanzibar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Atheer.om
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Last sultan of Zanzibar, claimant to the defunct throne since the monarchy was overthrown in 1964. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 10:23, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article looks good, though it's also pretty short. Yo.dazo (talk) 14:04, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose He is insignificant. Although he may be the heir, that is about the peak of his fame. Zanzibar is apart of Tanzania now and even then was a state that nobody cared about, both strategically and relevance. This would not be good for In the news but rather Did you know and even then, its very hard if that should appear on that page. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 01:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, for RD we normally only oppose due to the quality of the article. If it has an article, the subject is notable enough to appear in RD. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 01:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Linda Lavin

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Article: Linda Lavin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (ABC)
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: great loss actress and she deserves --QalasQalas 23:38, 2024 December 30 (UTC)

Ethiopian Truck Crash

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Article: 2024 Sidama truck crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ethiopian truck crash kills 71 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 71 people die in an Ethiopian truck crash
Alternative blurb II: ​ A truck falls off a bridge over the Ganale Doria River in Bona Zuria, Sidama Region, Ethiopia, killing 71 people and injuring 4 others.
News source(s): [16]
Credits:
We can make an exception here. It's so tragical. ArionStar (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 29

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(REVIEWERS NEEDED) RD: Dada Masilo

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Article: Dada Masilo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Internationally acclaimed South African dancer and choreographer, who transformed classical ballets into stories about today's characters, in a fusion with contemporary dance and African dancing. The article was stubbish, with lost references. There's still room for more detail, but I'm looking at the next two already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note that I've moved the item to 29 Dec, the date of the ship's transfer to Porvoo (see ALT2), as otherwise, this would be stale by now. Schwede66 18:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Striking the stale original (25 Dec) blurb.—Bagumba (talk) 10:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Article: 2024 Estlink 2 incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The submarine power cable Estlink 2 is damaged by an oil tanker suspected of belonging to Russia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Finnish police take over oil tanker Eagle S, suspected of damaging submarine power cable Estlink 2.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Eagle S, suspected of damaging submarine power cable Estlink 2, is transferred to Porvoo for investigation.
News source(s): https://yle.fi/a/74-20133526
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I'll try to combine https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eagle_S_on_the_map_of_MarineTraffic,_in_relation_to_the_Estlink_2_incident.png with the cropped version of the Estlink map if I get a chance to do so. A significant event mentioned in multiple international news sources. NotAGenious (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - There was a covering of the Baltic Sea Disruptions in current events a few weeks ago. This is also notable due to rising geopolitical tensions. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 19:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Chadian parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Chadian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Chad holds its legislative elections that have been delayed several times since 2011. (Post)
News source(s): [19]
Credits:

(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb Jimmy Carter

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Article: Jimmy Carter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former American president and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100 (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former United States president and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former president of the United States and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Nobel Peace laureate and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, behind the campaign to eradicate dracunculiasis, dies at 100.
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

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Strong support blurb - A bit more of an update is needed, and a few floating "is" etc are still about, but obviously this should be a blurb. Departure– (talk) 21:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These seem to have been fixed. Mooonswimmer 21:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support - Death of a former president. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 21:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support blurb Oldest former U.S. president ever and it's a GA. - Sebbog13 (talk) 21:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support blurb Oldest former U.S. president ever and it's a GA. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support blurb This should be an uncontroversial one. No quality concerns. May he rest in peace.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Ongoing: 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon

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Article: 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: The Ongoing section would benefit from some shortening, and this item seems like the best candidate for removal. The Israeli incursion in Lebanon is not in the news anymore (and the last event mentioned in the article dates back to 17 Dec). This is in contrast to the war in Gaza, or Israel's actions in Yemen, which are much more prominently covered in global news. Khuft (talk) 19:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support removing—looks like the most sensible thing to trim. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 23:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was a recent suggestion to include the entire listing of conflicts in the Middle East, but the problem is that they are not all directly related. While we can point to the Israel-Lebonon conflict as directly related to the Israel-Hamas one, events in Yemen or Syria are absolutely not part of that. That makes it all synthesis to combine them all. --Masem (t) 21:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose not only has Israel violated the ceasefire almost every single day its been in force, but there is no signs that they are going to continue the ceasefire after its 60 days. Scuba 15:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ongoing is not about if the event is still going on, but if the target article or an appropriate subarticle has been receiving updates, which has not been happening here. — Masem (t) 15:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Houston Tornado Outbreak

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Good faith nom, but clear consensus against. charlotte 👸🎄 23:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Tornado outbreak of December 28–29, 2024 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tornado outbreak in the Houston Area killing 2 people and injuring many others (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 2 people dead after tornado outbreak in the Houston area
Meh. oppose per below. EF5 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Seems pretty minor, hard to find coverage outside the US media. Nfitz (talk) 20:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose - not important overall. @EF5: we hardly post tornado outbreaks on ITN, and the smallest one I think that got posted was Rolling Fork's outbreak. The most recent was March 31, 2023, and almost every outbreak since then (with the possible exceptions of May 25 and April 26) have been well below the bar of importance for ITN. I'll add conditional weak support if the record-breaking claim of the Port Arthur tornado's duration is confirmed, but I highly doubt that. Departure– (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not significant, at least not yet. Very minor. Setarip (talk) 20:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The oddness here is how late in the year this came, likely a result of global warming, but even with that, the relatively small death toll makes this a minor outbreak in the larger scheme of things. --Masem (t) 21:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Late-season outbreaks have always happened. We posted the last big December outbreak (the one in Kentucky, USA) on merit as an outbreak, not based on climate change. I couldn't tell you why actual climate-change related blurbs (such as the yearly "hottest day in history" blurbs) never get posted. Departure– (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Because as long as there's little progress to stall climate change by major nations, these records are always going to get broken year after year. And the 2021 outbreak was likely posted due to the high death toll (70+). — Masem (t) 22:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose Tragic, but it’s a typical tornado outbreak. Two deaths is very small compared to very notable tornado outbreaks like the 2011 Super Outbreak. INeedSupport 🎄 21:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Ready) 2024–2025 Georgian constitutional crisis

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Article: 2024–2025 Georgian constitutional crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 2024–2025 Georgian constitutional crisis continues with Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated and Salome Zourabichvili claiming to remain President. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 2024–2025 Georgian constitutional crisis continues with Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated while Salome Zourabichvili says she remains President.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Amidst opposition protests, Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated President of Georgia.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A governmental crisis occurs in Georgia, as Mikheil Kavelashvili is inaugurated as president while incumbent Salome Zourabichvili intends to remain in office.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Mikheil Kavelashvili is inaugurated as President of Georgia while incumbent Salome Zourabichvili intends to remain in office amidst a constitutional crisis.
News source(s): Al Jazeera; The Guardian; Associated Press; BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The 2024–2025 Georgian post-election protests that have accompanied this crisis have been ongoing daily for two months with the biggest participation estimated at around 100,000 people - several percent of the total Georgian population. Boud (talk) 11:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The expression "claiming that" is a bit WP:WEASELly; and Salome Zourabichvili stating that she retains her legitimacy as President would be more neutral, avoiding the connotation that Wikipedia is sceptical about her POV. I've added altblurb which seems less weaselly to me. Boud (talk) 11:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing? The nomination is not clear whether it's proposing this as an ongoing entry. Many other places have ongoing political tensions and rivalries so I reckon we need some big incident or civil war for this to stand out. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The event itself - the overall crisis - is ongoing, but the Western mainstream media news coverage is not intense enough to justify ongoing in the ITN sense. This is not a proposal for ITN "Ongoing". In terms of the wording, it would be inaccurate to suggest that today's inauguration was a sudden crisis - it's a key symbolic event within the overall crisis - so "continuing" in the blurb is accurate. Boud (talk) 12:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Definitely has more encyclopedic value than the electoral college vote a few weeks earlier. Depending on how the world reacts, it could be a repeat of the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. Scaramouche33 (talk) 13:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oppose altblurb3 she has left the presidential palace. She cannot conduct an enforeceable actions such as signing bills.Sportsnut24 (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
everybody knows who the new prez is after being sworn in with his predecessor leaving the presidential palace.Sportsnut24 (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaving Orbeliani Palace has some but not much significance; it's not the presidential palace, it's a presidential palace; Zourabichvili was the first president to reside there: "Salome Zurabishvili to relocate Presidential Residence from Avlabari to Orbeliani Palace", 29 Nov 2018. Boud (talk) 01:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Jeju Air Flight 2216

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Article: Jeju Air Flight 2216 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Jeju Air Boeing 737-800 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, after hitting a fence while attempting to land with 47 casualties reported out of 181 passengers on board. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 47 people are killed when a Jeju Air plane carrying 181 passengers crashed at Muan International Airport in South Korea.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Jeju Air Flight 2216 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, killing at least 47.
News source(s): (Bloomberg)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I think it needs a bit of work.

Absolutely three deadly crashes within a month. QalasQalas (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 28

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  • The Afghanistan's Taliban government bans windows overlooking to places "used by women", and says that existing ones should be blocked. (RFI)

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RD: Mary Anne Krupsak

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Article: Mary Anne Krupsak (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [22]
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Lieutenant governor of New York --Engineerchange (talk) 15:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(REVIEWERS NEEDED) RD: Martin Karplus

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Article: Martin Karplus (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [23]
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Theoretical chemist, Nobel Prize laureate Grimes2 (talk) 15:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(REVIEWERS NEEDED) RD: Shigeko Sasamori

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Article: Shigeko Sasamori (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Survivor of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and an advocate for peace and nuclear disarmament. Died on December 15. Death reported on December 28. TJMSmith (talk) 02:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support The article is mainly based on the NYT obit, but this is ok. Every paragraph is sourced. 2989 characters (465 words) "readable prose size". Article was created on December 31, 2024. Grimes2 (talk) 16:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kari Dziedzic

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Article: Kari Dziedzic (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ‘’Minnesota Public Radio’’
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Sitting Minnesota state senator and former majority leader, hoping to expand the article a little/add electoral history and more details about political work, but also want to make sure we can clean up any issues with citations etc. that I didn’t catch. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 14:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced the bad source with a reliable recent one that details the case. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 15:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Charles Dolan

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Article: Charles Dolan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American billionaire businessman, founder of Cablevision and HBO. 240F:7A:6253:1:9DCE:E014:DC2:B389 (talk) 07:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 27

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(REVIEWERS NEEDED) RD: Ruth Butler

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Article: Ruth Butler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American art historian and academic. Died November 28. Death reported on December 27. TJMSmith (talk) 03:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(REVIEWERS NEEDED) RD: Charles Shyer

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Article: Charles Shyer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American film director, screenwriter, and producer. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Charlie Maxwell

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Article: Charlie Maxwell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American baseball outfielder (1947-1964), an All-Star in 1956 and 1957, known as "Sunday Charlie" and "The Sabbath Slugger" for his propensity to hit home runs on Sundays Cbl62 (talk) 23:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Olivia Hussey

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Article: Olivia Hussey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: British-Argentine actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:C85F:CD98:861D:B7DF (talk) 03:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Greg Gumbel

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Article: Greg Gumbel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American sportscaster who called N.F.L. and N.C.A.A. games for CBS. Thriley (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support First African-American sportscaster to call the Super Bowl. SigKauffman54 (talk) 16:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not relevant here, only article quality is. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:39, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Kamal Adwan hospital burning

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Good faith nom, however consensus to post will not develop. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israeli troops attack the Kamal Adwan hospital, the last one remaining in the northern Gaza Strip, forcing its staff and patients to leave (Post)
News source(s): Al-Jazeera, Associated Press
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: I know there's a daily tragedy in the Israel-Hamas war, but this is significant development given that its the last functioning one in northern Gaza Strip and hospitals have been a critical lifeline for Gazans. Further, burning down much of the hospital[24] is fairly unprecedented even in this brutal war. Feel free to suggest alternative blurbs. VR (Please ping on reply) 20:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Covered by ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Impeachment of Han Duck-soo

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Articles: Impeachment of Han Duck-soo (talk · history · tag) and Han Duck-soo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Acting President of South Korea and Prime minister, Han Duck-soo (pictured) is impeached by the National Assembly. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Acting President of South Korea and Prime minister, Han Duck-soo (pictured) is impeached by the National Assembly and is succeeded by Choi Sang-mok.
News source(s): BBC News, Reuters, South Korea National Assembly E-law Library KWNews (in Korean)
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One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Impeachement of Acting President of South Korea is unprecedented, and deputy prime minister will be both acting President and acting Prime Minister will also unprecedented. I also feel that we may need an ongoing article title like "2024-2025 South Korea Political Crisis" Haers6120 (talk) 06:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: Han seems accept National Assembly's decision [25]. Haers6120 (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's ITNR, because Han was explicitly only the acting president, and is in his turn only suspended and not deposed. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well the nom is listed as such and I don't think our ITNR rules for heads of state/government (state leaders) have ever been that granular to exclude such changes [of acting versus normally elected/appointed].
Also, I think we need to appreciate the difference between those countries where single state leaders hold effective power (South Korea) versus where where power distribution maybe more shared (France, Germany that have been cited here). Gotitbro (talk) 15:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Clearly the first impeachment following the attempt to declare martial law was major. Following that impeachment and resignation, the role of acting president fell to the PM, which was not meant to be a long-term determination. This impeaching is a result of more political infighting, and nothing specifically that Duck-soo did, and far less impactful than the original impeachment. Its basically a game of partisan musical chairs, since now the finance minister becomes next in line as acting president. --Masem (t) 13:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb Notable event. Han is the first acting president is the country's history to be impeached. This is a significant update from the fallout of the martial law crisis. Also, the altblurb is best as it illustrates the change in power so to speak. Article is in good shape too. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - While this is significant, it's part of the continuing crisis. As Andrew notes correctly, France and Germany are also both experiencing unstable government at the moment, and we're not posting blow-by-blow accounts of those to ITN, but only the substantive changes at the top. South Korea's situation, while a bit more volatile, is broadly similar. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • France and Germany are bad analogies in this case, not least because South Korea's case already involves an attempted self-coup and two impeachments. Though I ultimately agree that a third blurb about largely the same crisis might be too much, there may be merit in instead adding this to Ongoing (if it can be maintained). Yo.dazo (talk) 16:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is another major and unprecedented development in a situation that has already proven itself to be blurb-worthy on at least 2 occasions Rahcmander (talk) 16:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support For this is unprecedented situation and technically change of head of state. Would oppose another impeachment (which is probable in less than a week) as per Andrew. Didgogns (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. The Kip (contribs) 18:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nobody saw this coming This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk)
  • Comment This is an extension of the initial coup. The root cause for both, is that for some reason I can't fathom, having a solid majority in the Parliament, doesn't give you any control of the government. Similar to the issues in the USA, but without the ability of the Parliament to pass legislation, or change the speaker. For some reason the party controlling the presidency and PM believe that letting the other party into power is some existential crisis - hence the extremes they'll go to (first illegally, and now legally). This will continue until a presidential election is triggered. I have no doubt the new acting President will be impeached quickly if he doesn't approve the nominations to the constitutional court. Perhaps South Korean Constitutional Crisis or something should be an ongoing? Nfitz (talk) 03:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there news coverage of the events of this happening near daily? Not really. Just because two events have happened within a month apart doesn't make it an ongoing story, and the ongoing line is far too busy as it is right now to add anything else, particularly something that isn't having near-daily stories. Masem (t) 04:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've seen news reports several times a week since the coup, between the coup, and three impeachment votes. Nfitz (talk) 20:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support: This is just a greater part of the coup attempt by Yoon, but something I didn't see coming. TansoShoshen (talk) 10:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Admins willing to post ITN: I see consensus to post here. (I am of course far too involved to do it myself.) charlotte 👸🎄 20:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there's consensus. May I suggest that we wait half a day or so? I've just posted the Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira Bridge collapse and it sits in the bottom slot. If we were to post this item now, it'll nuke the bridge article after only a few minutes. Schwede66 20:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with me. charlotte 👸🎄 20:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I didn't see this conversation before posting the Jeju crash up. The bridge collapse wasn't removed as today's Featured Article slot is just a tad longer. I am uncertain if we want to post up Han's image as it will be adjacent to the plane crash blurb. – robertsky (talk) 04:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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