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Thunderbirds is a British science fiction television series created by Gerry and Sylvia Anderson. It was their fifth series to be made using Supermarionation (a form of electronic marionette puppetry) combined with scale model effects sequences. Two series were made, totalling 32 episodes. Thunderbirds follows the exploits of International Rescue, a lifesaving organisation led by ex-astronaut Jeff Tracy. Its missions are carried out using the Thunderbird machines (one pictured), a fleet of five vehicles piloted by Jeff's sons. Thunderbirds premiered on the ITV network on 30 September 1965 and has aired in at least 66 countries. Widely considered the Andersons' most popular and commercially successful series, it has been praised for its effects, music and title sequence. A real-life search and rescue service, the International Rescue Corps, took its name from the series. Thunderbirds was followed by two feature films in the 1960s, a live-action film in 2004 and a remake, Thunderbirds Are Go, in 2015. (Full article...)

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Sir Benjamin Thompson, Count Rumford

The Rumford Medal is an award bestowed by the Royal Society for "outstanding contributions in the field of physics". The award is named in honour of British scientist Sir Benjamin Thompson, Count Rumford (pictured), who is noted for his works on thermodynamics and for establishing the Royal Institution. Thompson received the inaugural award in 1800. Since its inception, the Rumford Medal has been granted to 108 scientists as of 2024. It has been awarded sixty-seven times to a citizen of the United Kingdom, seven times to a Dutch citizen, and four times to a Swedish citizen. The medal has been jointly awarded to multiple individuals on two occasions: to Philipp Lenard and Wilhelm Röntgen in 1896, and to Charles Fabry and Alfred Perot in 1918. From 1800 to 2018, the Rumford Medal was awarded biennially; since then it has been awarded annually. The most recent recipient is British physicist Tony Bell, who received it in 2024. (Full list...)

Iolanthe

Iolanthe is a comic opera with music by Arthur Sullivan and a libretto by W. S. Gilbert. First performed in 1882 as the seventh Gilbert and Sullivan operatic collaboration, it tells the story of Iolanthe, a fairy banished from fairyland because she married a mortal. Her son Strephon, half a fairy, loves Phyllis, whom all the members of the House of Peers wish to marry. Phyllis sees Strephon embracing Iolanthe (as fairies never age, she appears to be seventeen) and assumes that he is unfaithful, not realizing that Iolanthe is his mother, setting off a climactic confrontation between the peers and the fairies. The opera satirises many aspects of British government, law and society. Iolanthe was the first new theatre production in the world to be illuminated entirely by electric lights. It premiered at the Savoy Theatre and ran there for 398 performances, with a simultaneous production in New York. It is still played throughout the English-speaking world and beyond. This poster by H. M. Brock was produced for an early-20th-century tour production of Iolanthe by the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company.

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Tony Hawk's Underground is a skateboarding-adventure video game published by Activision in 2003 and 2004 as part of the Tony Hawk's series. Neversoft developed the GameCube, PlayStation 2, and Xbox versions, while the Game Boy Advance adaptation was developed by Vicarious Visions and the mobile phone version by Jamdat. Players explore levels and complete goals while performing skateboarding tricks; players can also create a custom character instead of selecting a professional skater. The plot follows the player and their friend Eric Sparrow as the two become professionals and grow apart. The game was developed with a theme of individuality, and real-world skateboarders contributed their experiences during development. Reviewers praised its wide appeal, soundtrack, customization, multiplayer features, and plot. The graphics and the controls for driving vehicles and walking were less well received. Underground's PlayStation 2 version had sold 2.11 million copies in the United States by December 2007. A sequel, Tony Hawk's Underground 2, was released in 2004. (Full article...)

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Common blackbird

The common blackbird (Turdus merula) is a species of true thrush. It breeds in Europe, Asia, and North Africa, and has been introduced to Canada, the United States, Mexico, Peru, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, the Falkland Islands, Chile, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. It has several subspecies across its large range; a few of the Asian subspecies are sometimes considered to be full species. Depending on latitude, the common blackbird may be resident, partially migratory, or fully migratory. The male of the nominate subspecies, which is found throughout most of Europe, is all black except for a yellow eye-ring and bill and has a rich, melodious song; the adult female and juvenile have mainly dark brown plumage. The species breeds in woods and gardens, building a neat, mud-lined, cup-shaped nest. It is omnivorous, eating a wide range of insects, earthworms, berries, and fruits. This common and conspicuous bird has given rise to many literary and cultural references, frequently related to its song. This female common blackbird, of the subspecies T. m. mauritanicus, was photographed in the Souss-Massa National Park, Morocco.

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Jacket from The Birds

The Birds is the fifth collection by Alexander McQueen for his fashion house. It was inspired by ornithology and the Alfred Hitchcock film The Birds. The collection centred around sharply tailored garments and emphasised female sexuality. The runway show was staged on 9 October 1994 and the venue was a warehouse in the London district of King's Cross. The Birds was styled with imagery of violence and death; some models were covered in tyre tracks and others wore white contact lenses. Reception was generally positive, although the styling drew accusations of misogyny. The show's success allowed McQueen to secure the financial backing to stage his next show, Highland Rape. Garments from The Birds appeared in both stagings of the retrospective exhibition Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty. Seán McGirr heavily referenced The Birds for Autumn/Winter 2024, his debut collection as creative director for the Alexander McQueen brand. (Full article...)

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Li Fu Lee (1904–1985) was a Chinese engineer and teacher who in 1925 became the first Chinese woman to attend the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). She majored in electrical engineering, a course of which undergraduates at the time said was the most difficult major, according to The Boston Globe. She was one of the 25 women who graduated from MIT in 1929 and one of the first women to earn a Bachelor of Science degree in electrical engineering at MIT. After graduating, Lee returned to China, where she became an engineer and taught at university. She fled with her family to Taiwan during the Chinese Civil War and later returned to the United States, residing in Chicago. This 1925 photograph shows Lee at MIT's radio experiment station.

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Harper Lee in 2007

To Kill a Mockingbird is a novel by Harper Lee (pictured) published in 1960 and considered a classic of modern American fiction. The novel is loosely based on the author's observations of her family and neighbors, as well as an event that occurred near her hometown in 1936, when she was 10 years old. The narrator's father, Atticus Finch, has served as a moral hero for many readers, and a model of integrity for lawyers. As a Southern Gothic novel and a bildungsroman, the primary themes of To Kill a Mockingbird involve racial injustice and the destruction of innocence, but scholars have also noted that Lee addresses the issues of class tensions, courage and compassion, and gender roles in the American Deep South. The book, which won a Pulitzer Prize, is widely taught in schools in English-speaking countries with lessons that emphasize tolerance and decry prejudice. Despite its themes, To Kill a Mockingbird has been the target of various campaigns to have it removed from public classrooms. (Full article...)

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Europa Clipper is a space probe developed by NASA and scheduled for launch on 10 October 2024. The largest spacecraft NASA has built for a planetary mission, Europa Clipper is designed to study Jupiter's moon Europa through a series of flybys while in orbit around Jupiter, with the goals of exploring Europa, investigating its habitability, and aiding in the selection of a landing site for the future Europa Lander. It is expected to reach its destination in 2030. This photograph shows a commemorative plate, 7 by 11 inches (18 by 28 centimeters) in size and made of tantalum, that is attached to the outside of the space probe to seal an entrance to a vault designed to protect the electronics from Jupiter's radiation. The outer face of the plate, pictured here, is etched with waveforms of audio recordings of the word water translated into 103 languages, radiating outwards from the American Sign Language symbol for the same word. The inner face of the plate features a work by the American poet Ada Limón.

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Algis Budrys, the editor of Tomorrow Speculative Fiction, in 1985

Tomorrow Speculative Fiction was a science fiction magazine edited by Algis Budrys (pictured), published in print and online in the US from 1992 to 1999. It was launched by Pulphouse Publishing, but cash flow problems led Budrys to buy the magazine after the first issue and publish it himself. There were 24 issues as a print magazine from 1993 to 1997, mostly on a bimonthly schedule. The magazine lost money, and in 1997 Budrys moved to online publishing, rebranding the magazine as tomorrowsf. Readership grew while the magazine was free on the web, but fell when Budrys began charging for subscriptions. In 1998 Budrys stopped acquiring new fiction, only publishing reprints of his own stories, and in 1999 he shut the magazine down. Tomorrow published many new writers, though few of them went on to successful careers. Well-known authors who appeared in the magazine included Gene Wolfe, Ursula K. Le Guin, and Harlan Ellison. Tomorrow was a finalist for the Hugo Award for Best Semiprozine in 1994 and 1995. (Full article...)

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The Linda Lindas performing live in 2022, at First Avenue; L–R: Lucia de la Garza, Mila de la Garza, Eloise Wong, and Bela Salazar

The discography of the Linda Lindas, an American rock band, consists of two studio albums, two extended plays, thirteen singles, and ten music videos. The Linda Lindas was formed in Los Angeles in 2018 by Bela Salazar (guitar, vocals), Eloise Wong (bass guitar, vocals), Lucia de la Garza (guitar, vocals), and Mila de la Garza (drums, vocals). The Linda Lindas released their self-titled debut EP independently in 2020. In 2021, the band went viral with a performance of "Racist, Sexist Boy" and subsequently signed with the Los Angeles-based label Epitaph Records. They released another EP which contains music that appeared in the Netflix film Moxie. The Linda Lindas released their debut album, entitled Growing Up, in 2022. Their second album, No Obligation, was released on October 11, 2024. (Full list...)

Europa Clipper commemorative vault plate, etched with waveforms of the word "water"

Europa Clipper is a space probe developed by NASA and scheduled for launch on 10 October 2024. The largest spacecraft NASA has built for a planetary mission, Europa Clipper is designed to study Jupiter's moon Europa through a series of flybys while in orbit around Jupiter, with the goals of exploring Europa, investigating its habitability, and aiding in the selection of a landing site for the future Europa Lander. It is expected to reach its destination in 2030. This photograph shows a commemorative plate, 7 by 11 inches (18 by 28 centimeters) in size and made of tantalum, that is attached to the outside of the space probe to seal an entrance to a vault designed to protect the electronics from Jupiter's radiation. The outer face of the plate, pictured here, is etched with waveforms of audio recordings of the word water translated into 103 languages, radiating outwards from the American Sign Language symbol for the same word. The inner face of the plate features a work by the American poet Ada Limón.

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Harper Lee in 2007
Harper Lee in 2007

To Kill a Mockingbird is a novel by Harper Lee (pictured) published in 1960 and considered a classic of modern American fiction. The novel is loosely based on the author's observations of her family and neighbors, as well as an event that occurred near her hometown in 1936, when she was 10 years old. The narrator's father, Atticus Finch, has served as a moral hero for many readers, and a model of integrity for lawyers. As a Southern Gothic novel and a bildungsroman, the primary themes of To Kill a Mockingbird involve racial injustice and the destruction of innocence, but scholars have also noted that Lee addresses the issues of class tensions, courage and compassion, and gender roles in the American Deep South. The book, which won a Pulitzer Prize, is widely taught in schools in English-speaking countries with lessons that emphasize tolerance and decry prejudice. Despite its themes, To Kill a Mockingbird has been the target of various campaigns to have it removed from public classrooms. (Full article...)

Algis Budrys, the editor of Tomorrow Speculative Fiction, in 1985
Algis Budrys, the editor of Tomorrow Speculative Fiction, in 1985

Tomorrow Speculative Fiction was a science fiction magazine edited by Algis Budrys (pictured), published in print and online in the US from 1992 to 1999. It was launched by Pulphouse Publishing, but cash flow problems led Budrys to buy the magazine after the first issue and publish it himself. There were 24 issues as a print magazine from 1993 to 1997, mostly on a bimonthly schedule. The magazine lost money, and in 1997 Budrys moved to online publishing, rebranding the magazine as tomorrowsf. Readership grew while the magazine was free on the web, but fell when Budrys began charging for subscriptions. In 1998 Budrys stopped acquiring new fiction, only publishing reprints of his own stories, and in 1999 he shut the magazine down. Tomorrow published many new writers, though few of them went on to successful careers. Well-known authors who appeared in the magazine included Gene Wolfe, Ursula K. Le Guin, and Harlan Ellison. Tomorrow was a finalist for the Hugo Award for Best Semiprozine in 1994 and 1995. (Full article...)

The Grand Hotel on the morning after the bombing
The Grand Hotel on the morning after the bombing

On 12 October 1984, an assassination attempt was made by the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) on members of the British government, including the prime minister, Margaret Thatcher. Five people were killed and over thirty injured; Thatcher was unharmed. The bombing was a key moment in the Troubles, the conflict in Northern Ireland between unionists and republicans, which took place in the late 20th century. The IRA decided to assassinate Thatcher during the 1981 hunger strike. Three weeks before the conference, the IRA member Patrick Magee planted a long-delay time bomb in the hotel the IRA knew would be occupied by Thatcher. The explosion dislodged a hotel chimney stack. This crashed through several floors. Thatcher decided to continue the conference as normal, which reopened six and a half hours after the explosion. A partial palm print was found on Magee's room registration card and after an eight-month investigation he was sent to prison for eight life sentences. (Full article...)

"The Riddle of the Sphinx" is the third episode of the third series of the British dark comedy anthology television programme Inside No. 9. Written by the programme's creators, Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith, and directed by Guillem Morales, it first aired on 28 February 2017 on BBC Two. It stars Alexandra Roach as Nina, a young woman seeking answers to the Varsity cryptic crossword, Pemberton as Professor Squires, who sets the crossword using the pseudonym Sphinx, and Shearsmith as Dr Tyler. The same crossword was published in The Guardian on the day the episode aired, and the episode is filled with references to the puzzle. Influences for the episode include Anthony Shaffer's 1970 play Sleuth, the works of Anton Chekhov, and the 1989 film The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover. Critics lauded the writing and the precise attention to detail in the production. Roach's performance was praised, as was the direction of Morales. (Full article...)

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Stephen Waldorf and David Martin

Stephen Waldorf was a 26-year-old man who was shot and injured in 1983 by police in London after they mistook him for David Martin, an escaped criminal. Martin, who was known to carry firearms, had previously shot a police officer. He escaped from custody in December 1982 and the police placed his girlfriend under surveillance. On the day of the shooting, they followed her as she travelled in a car with Waldorf, who resembled Martin. When the car stopped, an armed officer went forward to confirm his identity. The officer believed that Waldorf was Martin and fired six rounds, first at the car's tyres and then at the passenger. Another officer fired through the rear windscreen. As the passenger slumped across the seats and out of the driver's door, a third officer opened fire. Two officers were charged with attempted murder but were acquitted. Waldorf subsequently recovered. Martin was captured two weeks after the shooting. The event led to reforms in the training of armed police in the UK. (Full article...)

The Battle of Glasgow was fought on October 15, 1864, at Glasgow, Missouri, as part of Price's Missouri Expedition during the American Civil War. In late 1864, the Confederate leadership in the Trans-Mississippi theater planned a campaign into the state of Missouri. Major General Sterling Price led the expedition, and hoped to capture St. Louis. The early defeat at Pilot Knob led him to abandon this plan. Price sent Brigadier General John B. Clark Jr. with two brigades on a side raid to capture a weapons cache at Glasgow. The Union garrison of Glasgow was commanded by Colonel Chester Harding Jr., and was mostly composed of militia and men of the 43rd Missouri Infantry Regiment. After Confederate artillery fire on the Union position, the Union commander rejected a surrender offer; the main attack drove Harding's men back into the town and they burned 50,000 rations to prevent them from falling to the Confederates. They surrendered at 13:30. Clark paroled the Union soldiers and captured needed weapons. The Confederate column rejoined Price's army the next day. (Full article...)

New York Dolls performing on TopPop in 1973
New York Dolls performing on TopPop in 1973

New York Dolls is the debut album by the American hard rock band New York Dolls. It was released in 1973 by Mercury Records. In the years leading up to the album, the Dolls had developed a local fanbase by playing regularly in lower Manhattan after forming in 1971. Most music producers and record companies were reluctant to work with them because of their onstage cross-dressing and blatant vulgarity. The album – a mix of carefree rock and roll, influences from Brill Building pop, and campy sensibilities – explores themes of urban youth, teen alienation, adolescent romance, and authenticity, as rendered in lead singer David Johansen's colloquial and ambiguous lyrics. New York Dolls was met with widespread critical acclaim but sold poorly and polarized listeners. Despite its commercial failure, New York Dolls was an influential precursor to the 1970s punk rock movement. It has been named in various publications as one of the best debut records in rock music. (Full article...)

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Europa Clipper commemorative vault plate, etched with waveforms of the word "water"

Europa Clipper is a space probe developed by NASA and scheduled for launch on 10 October 2024. The largest spacecraft NASA has built for a planetary mission, Europa Clipper is designed to study Jupiter's moon Europa through a series of flybys while in orbit around Jupiter, with the goals of exploring Europa, investigating its habitability, and aiding in the selection of a landing site for the future Europa Lander. It is expected to reach its destination in 2030. This photograph shows a commemorative plate, 7 by 11 inches (18 by 28 centimeters) in size and made of tantalum, that is attached to the outside of the space probe to seal an entrance to a vault designed to protect the electronics from Jupiter's radiation. The outer face of the plate, pictured here, is etched with waveforms of audio recordings of the word water translated into 103 languages, radiating outwards from the American Sign Language symbol for the same word. The inner face of the plate features a work by the American poet Ada Limón.

Photograph credit: NASA / JPL-Caltech; photographed by Ryan Lannom

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Silver certificates are a type of representative money issued between 1878 and 1964 in the United States as part of its circulation of paper currency. They were produced in response to silver agitation by citizens who were angered by the Coinage Act of 1873, which had effectively placed the United States on a gold standard. Since 1968 they have been redeemable only in Federal Reserve Notes and are thus obsolete, but they remain legal tender at their face value and hence are still an accepted form of currency. These are six banknotes from the 1880 series of large-size silver certificates, designed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing and comprising eight denominations from $1 to $1000. Each banknote bears a portrait of a different individual, identified above.

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Queues

Downtown Serekunda
Downtown Serekunda


Maximiliano Hernández Martínez
Maximiliano Hernández Martínez


Actinote zikani
Actinote zikani


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Santa singing at the 2024 Paralympics closing ceremony
Santa singing at the 2024 Paralympics closing ceremony
Niederdollendorf stone
Niederdollendorf stone
Chesmac running on a Telmac-1800 computer
Chesmac running on a Telmac-1800 computer
  • ... that as the 1979 computer chess game Chesmac (pictured) could not show the chessboard on screen, players had to replicate the game on a physical chessboard?
  • ... that Samuel Barber, himself a conservatory-trained pianist, said he could not adequately play his own Piano Sonata?
  • ... that a 1593 work by an Italian-Jewish engineer and polymath might have inspired James Joyce's Ulysses?
  • ... that Anne Morrow Lindbergh tried to warn her husband Charles Lindbergh of the backlash that his antisemitic Des Moines speech would receive?
  • ... that Rose Betts wrote the song "Driving Myself Home" as a joke after a blind date, only for it to go viral on TikTok?
  • ... that an art critic felt that Rooms by the Sea was one of Edward Hopper's "strangest" works?
  • ... that when Swedish soccer player Beata Olsson transferred from Florida to Florida State, she said she did not really know about the schools' rivalry?
  • ... that in Pell v The Queen the High Court of Australia unanimously overturned Cardinal George Pell's conviction for child sex offences?
  • ... that researchers want Hymenophyllum axsmithii rhizomes so they can tell if the filmy fern was up a tree?
Najmuddin of Gotzo and Uzun-Hajji
Najmuddin of Gotzo and Uzun-Hajji
1914 Memento Dollar
1914 Memento Dollar
Ferrari FF
Ferrari FF
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Caption goes here


TFA/TFL requests


Summary chart

Currently accepting requests from November 2 to December 2.

Date Article Notes Supports Opposes
Nonspecific 1 BAE Systems 2 0
Nonspecific 2 Shapinsay TFA re-run 2 0
Nonspecific 3 Album covers of Blue Note Records 5 0
Nonspecific 4 Yugoslav destroyer Ljubljana Non-specific date in November (85th anniversary of her commissioning) 2 0
Nonspecific 5 Walden–Wallkill Rail Trail 3 0
Nonspecific 6 Benjamin Jackson (sailor) 1 0
Nonspecific 7 George Floyd (American football) 1 0
Nonspecific 8 Costello's 1 0
Nonspecific 9 Kwinana Freeway 1 0
Nonspecific 10 Suicidal Tour 2 0
November 1 William de Ros, 6th Baron Ros 610th deathday 2 0
November 2 Daniel Boone 290th birthday. TFA rerun from 2008 1 0
November 3 Marina Bay MRT station 35th anniversary of opening 1 0
November 4 1964 Illinois House of Representatives election 60th anniversary 1 0
November 5 Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot) Guy Fawkes Night. TFA rerun from 2012 1 0
November 8 Mario Party DS Anniversary of release 4 2
November 10 Justus Deathday and feast day. TFA re-run from 2012 1 0
November 18 Donkey Kong Country 30th anniversary of release 4 0
November 23 Sydney Newman 61st anniversary of release of a TV series he co-created 1 0
December 2 Windswept Adan 4th anniversary of release 2 0

Tally may not be up to date. The nominator is included in the number of supporters.

Nonspecific date nominations

Nonspecific date 1

BAE Systems

BAE Systems has offices in the Farnborough Aerospace Centre business park.
BAE Systems has offices in the Farnborough Aerospace Centre business park.

BAE Systems is a British multinational aerospace, defence and information security company, based in London, England. It is the largest defence contractor in Europe and the seventh-largest in the world. Its largest operations are in the United Kingdom and in the United States, where it is one of the six largest suppliers to the US Department of Defense. Other major markets include Saudi Arabia, Australia, Canada, Japan, India and Turkey. The company was formed in 1999 by the merger of Marconi Electronic Systems with the defence arm of the General Electric Company and British Aerospace. BAE has made a number of acquisitions, most notably of United Defense and Armor Holdings and has sold its shares in Airbus. It is involved in several major defence projects, including the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, the Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s):
  • Main editors: Fnlayson
  • Promoted: 14 October 2007
  • Reasons for nomination: Last featured 29 April 2008. Accuracy may be compromised as a result of having to be pared down.
  • Coordinator comment: Paring may have been slightly excessive. Blurbs need to be between 925 and 1,025 characters, including spaces. This is 907. Perhaps you could add a little content back? Gog the Mild (talk) 15:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
@Gog the Mild: I was really worried about accuracy while paring this down, and that persists with what you're asking me. Sorry for the long wait, I've only just seen this. Great Mercian (talk) 18:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Support as nominator. Great Mercian (talk) 12:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support looks ok 750h+ 07:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 2

Shapinsay

Balfour castle on Shapinsay
Balfour castle on Shapinsay

Shapinsay is one of the Orkney Islands off the north coast of mainland Scotland. At 29.5 square kilometres (11.4 sq mi), it is the eighth largest island in the Orkney archipelago. The land is low-lying and fertile, with a bedrock formed from Old Red Sandstone overlain by boulder clay. Shapinsay has two nature reserves and is notable for its bird life. Balfour Castle (pictured) is one of the island's prominent features and a reminder of the Balfour family's domination of Shapinsay during the 18th and 19th centuries. Other landmarks include a standing stone, an Iron Age broch, a souterrain and a salt-water shower. There is one village on the island, Balfour, from which car ferries sail to the Orkney Mainland. At the 2011 census, Shapinsay had a population of 307. The island's economy is based on agriculture, with a few small businesses that are tourism-related. A community-owned wind turbine was constructed in 2011. Shapinsay's long history has given rise to various folk tales. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): George Town, Penang was TFA May 24, and the last time a population centre was TFA.
  • Main editors: Lurker was the original nominator, Ben MacDui has done a lot of work to fix up the article, including at the FAR.
  • Promoted: December 17, 2007, FAR kept August 3, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: It has been a while since a population centre was TFA. This would be a TFA re-run. Does not have to run on a specific day/month.
  • Support as nominator. Z1720 (talk) 01:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. 750h+ 07:03, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 3

Album covers of Blue Note Records

The album covers of Blue Note Records, an American jazz record label, have been recognized for their distinctive designs, which often feature bold colors, experimental typography, and candid photographs of the album's musicians, and are described as belonging to the Bauhaus and Swiss Style movements. In the early 1950s, artists like Gil Mellé, Paul Bacon, and John Hermansader designed Blue Note's earliest album covers. In 1956, Reid Miles was hired as Blue Note's art director, creating 400 to 500 covers with a unique style incorporating diverse typefaces and design principles such as asymmetry and tinting. After Miles left in 1967, artists like Mati Klarwein and Bob Venosa took over. Designers such as Norman Seeff and Bob Cato contributed in the 1970s, while Japanese artists created new covers for reissues in the late 1970s and 1980s. From the mid-1980s onward, artists like Paula Scher and Adam Pendleton have designed covers, with Miles' work in particular remaining highly influential. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): I don't think anything like this has been at TFA before. This is apparently the first and only FA-class graphic design article.
  • Main editors: Joeyquism
  • Promoted: August 7, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: Recently promoted article; highly underrepresented topic at FA (see above). Also, the first FA that I've authored that I've been able to take to TFA so far.
  • Support as nominator. joeyquism (talk) 00:13, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support 750h+ 12:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support -- ZooBlazer 16:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Aoba47 (talk) 02:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Very unique topic, and the FA was promoted very recently so there shouldn't be any quality issues. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 4

Yugoslav destroyer Ljubljana

Ljubljana's sister ship Beograd (right)
Ljubljana's sister ship Beograd (right)

Ljubljana was the third and last Beograd-class destroyer built for the Royal Yugoslav Navy in the late 1930s. She was designed to operate as part of a division led by the flotilla leader Dubrovnik. Ljubljana entered service in November 1939, was armed with a main battery of four Škoda 120 mm (4.7 in) guns in single mounts, and had a top speed of 35 knots (65 km/h; 40 mph). In 1940, Ljubljana ran aground on a reef off the Yugoslav port of Šibenik, where, badly damaged, she was taken for repairs. Yugoslavia entered World War II when the German-led Axis powers invaded in April 1941, and Ljubljana—still under repair—was captured by the Royal Italian Navy. After repairs were completed, she saw active service in the Royal Italian Navy under the name Lubiana, mainly as a convoy escort on routes between Italy and North Africa. She was lost on 1 April 1943, when she ran aground and was abandoned off the Tunisian coast after a navigational error. (This article is part of a featured topic: Ships of the Royal Yugoslav Navy.)

Nonspecific date 5

Walden–Wallkill Rail Trail

A section of the trail in Shawangunk, New York.
A section of the trail in Shawangunk, New York.

The Walden–Wallkill Rail Trail, also known as the Jesse McHugh Rail Trail, is a 3.22-mile (5.18 km) rail trail between the village of Walden, New York and the hamlet of Wallkill. The two communities are located in Orange and Ulster counties, respectively, in upstate New York. The trail is part of the former Wallkill Valley Railroad's rail corridor. The railway was the first to operate in Ulster County. Passenger service ended in 1937; the opening of the New York State Thruway and decreased freight traffic caused the line to close in 1957. The land was purchased by the towns of Montgomery and Shawangunk in 1985 and converted to a public trail. The portion of the trail in Shawangunk was formally opened in 1993 and named after former town supervisor Jesse McHugh. After seven years of discussion, the route was paved between 2008 and 2009. The trail includes an unofficial, unimproved section to the north of Wallkill, and is bounded by NY 52 and NY 208. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): The last "National and state parks, nature reserves, conservation areas, and countryside routes" article at TFA was Black Moshannon State Park June 26, 2020
  • Main editors: Gyrobo
  • Promoted: January 31, 2011, FAR May 25, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: Uncommon topic at TFA. TFA re-run from 2015.
  • Support as nominator. Z1720 (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support joeyquism (talk) 16:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support; I live in the area. Daniel Case (talk) 05:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 6

Benjamin Jackson (sailor)

Jackson c. 1903
Jackson c. 1903

Benjamin Jackson (January 2, 1835 – August 20, 1915) was a Canadian sailor and farmer. Raised in a small community of Black Nova Scotians, Jackson served for one year in the Union Navy during the American Civil War. Deployed in the Union blockade of the Confederate coastline, he also participated in the Battle of Mobile Bay as a gun captain. He disarmed multiple naval mines and once picked up a live grenade and threw it from the deck of his ship, an act that earned him a medal. After the war, Jackson lived the rest of his life in Lockhartville, Nova Scotia, sailing commercially until 1875 and farming for many years longer. His funeral in 1915 was described as "the largest seen in Lockhartville for many years", though his grave remained unmarked until 2010. One of the eight history markers on the Mathieu Da Costa African Heritage Trail is dedicated to his story and Ben Jackson Road in Hantsport, Nova Scotia, is named in his honour. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): The most recent biography of a Black figure was a contemporary American journalist on July 5; the most recent Canadian topic was the Canadian flag on July 1; and the most recent Civil War topic was a battle on April 29.
  • Main editors: Dugan Murphy
  • Promoted: August 13, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: Brand new FA; Canadians and pre-20th-century Black figures not often featured in TFA.
  • Support as nominator. Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:25, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: This could be held until January 2, when it could be scheduled for Jackson's 190th birthday. WP:TFAP does not list an article for Jan 2. Z1720 (talk) 15:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
I think that's a fine idea. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 7

George Floyd (American football)

George Floyd Jr. (born December 21, 1960) is an American former professional football player who was a defensive back for two seasons with the New York Jets in the National Football League. Floyd played college football for the Eastern Kentucky University Colonels, where he won the 1979 National Collegiate Athletic Association Division I-AA football championship and set several school records, including for most career interceptions (22), and most career interception return yards (328). Floyd appeared in ten games during the 1982 New York Jets season, including three playoff games. He missed the entire 1983 season and appeared in eight games during the 1984 season before retiring after his third knee injury. He was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1999. After the murder of a man with the same name in June 2020, his photograph was erroneously included in a montage at the other Floyd's funeral. As of 2023, he is a defensive backs coach for Conner High School in Kentucky. (Full article...)

Nonspecific date 8

Costello's

Costello's on the corner of Third Avenue and East 44th Street, under the shadow of the Third Avenue El, c. 1939–1941
Costello's on the corner of Third Avenue and East 44th Street, under the shadow of the Third Avenue El, c. 1939–1941

Costello's (also known as Tim's) was a bar and restaurant in Midtown Manhattan, New York City, from 1929 to 1992. The bar operated at several locations near the intersection of East 44th Street and Third Avenue. Costello's was known as a drinking spot for journalists with the New York Daily News, writers with The New Yorker, novelists, and cartoonists, including the author Ernest Hemingway, the cartoonist James Thurber, the journalist John McNulty, the poet Brendan Behan, the short-story writer John O'Hara, and the writers Maeve Brennan and A. J. Liebling. The bar is also known for having been home to a wall where Thurber drew a cartoon depiction of the "Battle of the Sexes" at some point between 1934 and 1935; the cartoon was destroyed, illustrated again, and then lost in the 1990s. A wall illustrated in 1976 by several cartoonists, including Bill Gallo, Stan Lee, Mort Walker, Al Jaffee, Sergio Aragonés, and Dik Browne, is still on display at the bar's final location. (Full article...)

Nonspecific date 9

Nonspecific date 10

Suicidal Tour

Santa Cruz entering the field before a game in Belém
Santa Cruz entering the field before a game in Belém

The Suicidal Tour took place when Brazilian professional football club Santa Cruz Futebol Clube toured the North Region of Brazil from 2 January 1943 to 29 April 1943. Over almost four months, they played either 26 or 28 friendly matches in six cities. The tour gained its name due to the misfortunes endured by the club. Looking to recover from a financial crisis, Santa Cruz arranged five matches in Belém, Pará. Traveling up the Amazon River for another round of matches, they first started experiencing problems in Manaus, where two players left to play for other clubs and seven members of the team's delegation caught dysentery. Two players went on to catch typhoid fever and died. Unable to return home through the sea, and needing to cover growing costs, Santa Cruz had to return to Recife by land, playing matches along the way to earn money. The return had further problems, including a fake arrest warrant for a player, a trip alongside thieves, and two train derailments. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): UEFA Euro 2004 final, which ran on July 14th, though I'm not sure if there's really any similar articles at all.
  • Main editors: Hilst
  • Promoted: September 6, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: Recent featured article. It's my first FA and, as such, my first one to appear at TFA.
  • Support as nominator. – Hilst (talk | contribs) 14:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Very interesting topic, and the article is a new FA so it shouldn't have any issues. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 11

Gedling Town F.C.

The Ferry Boat Inn, behind which the club was based
The Ferry Boat Inn, behind which the club was based

Gedling Town Football Club was a semi-professional football club based in Stoke Bardolph, Nottinghamshire, England. Founded in 1985 as R & R Scaffolding, the works team of a construction firm from Netherfield, the club played its first four seasons in amateur football. Between 1990 and 2008, Gedling competed in three Central Midlands Football League divisions and Division One of the Northern Counties East Football League, winning three league titles in the process. Gedling then joined the Premier Division of the East Midlands Counties Football League at the tenth tier of the English football pyramid, in which the club remained until its dissolution in 2011 due to insolvency. Its home ground from the early 1990s was the Riverside Stadium behind The Ferry Boat Inn pub (pictured). Tournament records included reaching the third qualifying round of the FA Cup in in 2003–04 and the fourth round of the FA Vase in 2003–04, 2004–05 and 2005–06. The team were nicknamed "The Ferrymen", and their colours were primarily yellow and blue. (Full article...)

Specific date nominations

November 1

William de Ros, 6th Baron Ros

de Ros's coat of arms
de Ros's coat of arms

William de Ros, 6th Baron Ros (c. 1370 – 1 November 1414) was an English nobleman, politician and soldier. He inherited his father's barony and estates (with extensive lands centred on Lincolnshire) in 1394 and married Margaret, daughter of Baron Fitzalan, shortly afterwards. Her family, like that of de Ros, was well-connected, and they were implacably opposed to King Richard II. In 1399 Richard confiscated the estates of his cousin, Henry Bolingbroke, Duke of Lancaster, and exiled him. When Henry invaded England several months later, de Ros took his side almost immediately. After Henry declared himself King Henry IV, de Ros voted in the House of Lords for the former king's imprisonment. He became an important aide and counsellor to King Henry, and regularly spoke for him in parliament. He also supported Henry in his military campaigns, participating in the invasion of Scotland in 1400 and assisting in the suppression of Richard le Scrope's rebellion five years later. (Full article...)

November 2

Daniel Boone

Daniel Boone

Daniel Boone (November 2, 1734 – September 26, 1820) was an American pioneer and frontiersman. In 1775, Boone blazed the Wilderness Road through the Cumberland Gap into Kentucky, despite resistance from Native Americans; by the end of the 18th century, more than 200,000 people entered Kentucky by following the route marked by Boone. He was adopted into the Shawnee tribe in 1778 but resigned after they killed his son. In April 1781 Boone was elected to the Virginia General Assembly. An account of his adventures was published in 1784, making him famous in America and Europe. After the Revolutionary War, he worked as a surveyor and merchant but went into debt as a Kentucky land speculator. He resettled in Missouri in 1799, where he spent most of his remaining life. After his death, he was the subject of works of fiction; his adventures helped create the archetypal frontier hero of American folklore. (Full article...)

November 3

Marina Bay MRT station

Exit 2 of Marina Bay station
Exit 2 of Marina Bay station

Marina Bay MRT station is a Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) interchange station on the North South (NSL), Circle (CCL) and Thomson–East Coast (TEL) lines in Singapore. Located in the Downtown Core district near Marina Bay, it serves the Marina One Residences, Marina Bay Suites and the Marina Bay Financial Centre. It was one of the last stations to be completed in the early phases of the MRT network, opening on 4 November 1989. The station was the terminus of the NSL until the line's extension in 2014. It became an interchange station with the CCL when the two-station branch extension from Promenade station was completed in January 2012. The TEL station platforms were completed in November 2022, becoming a triple-line interchange on the MRT network. The station features art as part of the MRT network's Art-in-Transit programme. The sculpture Flowers in Blossom II is over the CCL mezzanine. The CCL platforms feature photographs by Nah Yong En and the TEL station features murals by Tang Ling Nah. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Changi Airport MRT station will be TFA Oct 17
  • Main editors: ZKang123
  • Promoted: January 5, 2023
  • Reasons for nomination: 35th anniversary of opening. I'm not thrilled with the image and am open to suggestions on other images.
  • Support as nominator. Z1720 (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
  • I might recommend using the Reflecting pool image. Btw, truthfully I'm not thrilled at all with this article, despite it being one of my best recent works. It is a triple interchange but isn't a major station and didn't saw much use presently, but I decided to work on this ever since TEL 3 opening (it was previously a GA). I'm usually more proud of articles I work on that have more prominent content.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
  • I saw that the date request moved to Nov 3, probably because of time zones. WP:TFAP does list another article nomination for that date, so this might have to be bumped back to Nov. 4. While maybe not the most prominent, TFA does have a shortage of transit articles, which makes stations such as these more likely to get scheduled, and I'd rather that this ran on a date of significance to the article. I don't mind switching the image to the reflecting pool. Z1720 (talk) 19:31, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
    • Oops, definitely should've been checking this page sooner (as the requester for that other FA). I'd be fine with running on the 4th, though. Will request shortly. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
      • I think what Z1720 was suggesting was: Marina Bay was supposed to be put for TFA on the 4th, but on WP:TFAR it is listed as 3rd for some reason. However, because the 1964 election article (Elli's article) was already placed on WP:TFAP for the 3rd, Marina Bay would still be pushed back to being TFA on the 4th, and the election article will go on the 3rd. (Z1720 do correct me if I'm wrong).
        On another note, I took an updated image of the reflecting pool from a similar angle (at File:(SGP-Singapore) Marina Bay MRT Station Exit 2 2024-08-23.jpg). I asked ZKang on his opinion and he said "Looks ok I guess". Didn't put this on the article though so as not to interfere with the request (since the other reflecting pool image is already linked here), but now that I'm here I thought I'd ask about your opinions on whether to swap to the one I linked. S5A-0043Talk 13:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
        • Oh, I see. Yeah, that would definitely be preferable. I've put my request in for the 4th below, but would be happy with swapping the dates. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

November 4

1964 Illinois House of Representatives election

Sample ballot from Lake County
Sample ballot from Lake County
(Full article...)
  • Most recent similar article(s): Jeremy Thorpe and Ole Miss riot of 1962 are the most recent 20th-century politics articles (September 16 and 30, respectively), but I don't think either is really too related. We haven't had an election article in many months (best I can tell, none since March, at least, didn't check further back).
  • Main editors: User:Elli
  • Promoted: 27 January 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: This is the day after the 60th anniversary of the election (as the 3rd is already requested). Also the day before another general election in the U.S., which might increase reader interest. This is my first FA and first request here. (Also, still drafting the blurb, but wanted to put in a request for the date ASAP.)
  • Support as nominator. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

November 5

Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot)

Thomas Percy
Thomas Percy

Thomas Percy was a member of the failed Gunpowder Plot. Following King James's accession to the English throne in 1603, Percy became disenchanted with the new king, who he supposed had reneged on his promises of toleration for English Catholics. He joined Robert Catesby's conspiracy to kill the king and his ministers by blowing up the House of Lords with gunpowder. Percy helped fund the group and secured the leases to properties in London, including the undercroft beneath the House of Lords where the gunpowder was placed. When the plot was exposed on 5 November 1605, Percy fled to the Midlands, catching up with other conspirators travelling to Dunchurch. At the border of Staffordshire they were besieged by the Sheriff of Worcester and his men. Percy was reportedly killed by the same musketball as Catesby and was buried nearby. His body was later exhumed, and his head exhibited outside Parliament. (This article is part of a featured topic: Gunpowder Plot.)

November 8

Mario Party DS

Mario Party DS is a 2007 party video game developed by Hudson Soft and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo DS. It is the second handheld game in the Mario Party series, as well as the last game in the series to be developed by Hudson Soft, as all subsequent titles have been developed by NDcube. Like most installments in the Mario Party series, Mario Party DS features characters of the Mario franchise competing in a board game with a variety of minigames, many of which utilize the console's unique features, including its built-in microphone, dual screen and touch screen mechanics, and motion sensitivity. Up to four human players can compete at a time, though characters can also be computer-controlled. Although Mario Party DS received mixed reviews, with general praise for its minigame variety and criticism for its absence of an online multiplayer mode, the game has sold more than nine million units worldwide, making it the 11th best-selling game for the Nintendo DS. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): From February to June 2024, there were multiple featured articles for video games displayed on the main page, including OneShot on June 30. However, none of them appear to be a party video game or a game in the Mario franchise like Mario Party DS. Additionally, to my knowledge, this is the first Mario Party game to have a featured article on Wikipedia, meaning that it would also be the first to appear on the main page.
  • Main editors: The Green Star Collector
  • Promoted: July 31, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: 17th anniversary of the game's release in Japan
  • Support as nominator. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 17:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Comment: The Green Star Collector, the rationale for the run date seems rather unusual to me, and considering the fact goes unmentioned in the article I don't think it would be obvious to any readers either. What do you think about moving it back to November 8, the anniversary of the game's release in Japan? TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
That would be understandable to me, and I would support moving it to November 8. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 20:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Cool, you may then want to un-translculde this nomination from the requests page and save a spot for the new date at the pending sidebar. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Now happy to support. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Comment - You're going to have to change the main image. Fair use images are not allowed on the main page. joeyquism (talk) 15:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
I've replaced the main image with a logo for the game, which I uploaded on the grounds that it was a simple logo made up of a few words and simple geometric shapes, and therefore ineligible for copyright. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Good call. Throwing in my support! joeyquism (talk) 06:38, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
  • This would be running very close to the Donkey Kong game round number anniveraries this month. I suggest running in 2027 on its 20th anniversary instead. czar 16:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, the 20th anniversary sounds like a better idea. Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support but in one condition. Maybe an earlier TFA date sounds better, would suggest having it on the day of the release of Super Mario Party Jamboree (Oct. 17, 2024). ScarletViolet tc 13:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't realize Oct. 17 is already taken. ScarletViolet tc 14:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I agree with czar. This would run too close to the Donkey Kong TFA, which has a stronger rationale for appearing on the main page. It would not be a great idea to have two Nintendo articles run so close together. I agree that the 20th anniversary would be a better fit for this one. Aoba47 (talk) 01:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Unfortunately, running this article at this time would conflict with Donkey Kong Country, which I think takes precedence for its anniversary being a round number. This article can run on another year, like on its twentieth anniversary. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

November 10

Justus

Gravestone of Justus
Gravestone of Justus

Justus, sometimes referred to as Iustus, was the fourth Archbishop of Canterbury. Pope Gregory the Great sent Justus to England on a mission to Christianize the Anglo-Saxons, probably arriving with the second group of missionaries despatched in 601. Justus became the first Bishop of Rochester in 604 and signed a letter to the Irish bishops urging them to adopt the Roman method of calculating the date of Easter. He also attended a church council in Paris in 614. Following King Æthelberht of Kent's death in 616, Justus was forced to flee to Gaul but was reinstated in his diocese the following year. In 624, Justus became Archbishop of Canterbury, overseeing the despatch of missionaries to Northumbria. He died on 10 November, probably sometime between 627 and 631. After his death, he was revered as a saint and had a shrine in St Augustine's Abbey, Canterbury, where his remains were translated to in the 1090s (gravestone pictured). (This article is part of a featured topic: Members of the Gregorian mission.)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Last biography on a religious figure was John D. Whitney, although he is in the education realm.
  • Main editors: Ealdgyth
  • Promoted: January 10, 2010
  • Reasons for nomination: Nov 10 is Justus's deathday and feast day. TFA re-run from 2012. Image can probably be zoomed in.
  • Support as nominator. Z1720 (talk) 19:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

November 18

Donkey Kong Country

Donkey Kong Country is a 1994 platform game developed by Rare and published by Nintendo for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. It follows the gorilla Donkey Kong and his nephew Diddy Kong as they set out to recover their stolen banana hoard from the crocodile King K. Rool and his army, the Kremlings. Nintendo commissioned Rare to revive the dormant Donkey Kong franchise as it sought a game to compete with Sega's Aladdin (1993). Donkey Kong Country was one of the first home console games to feature pre-rendered graphics, achieved through a compression technique that converted 3D models into sprites with little loss of detail. It was released on 18 November 1994 to acclaim. Critics hailed its visuals as groundbreaking and praised its gameplay and music; it is frequently listed as one of the greatest games of all time. Donkey Kong Country re-established Donkey Kong as a popular Nintendo franchise and was followed by sequels and ports for subsequent Nintendo consoles. (Full article...)

  • That's strange. Must just be a thing on my end 😅 joeyquism (talk) 22:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Nice round anniversary number. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Support There's three nintendo games with anniversaries this month, and this seems to be the most worthy to run since it's the 30th. Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

November 23

Sydney Newman

Newman as part of a Canadian media delegation to China.
Newman as part of a Canadian media delegation to China.

Sydney Cecil Newman OC (April 1, 1917 – October 30, 1997) was a Canadian film and television producer, who played a pioneering role in British television and Canadian cinema. During the 1950s and 60s, he was granted the role of Head of Drama within both ABC Weekend TV and the BBC. During this time, he created the spy-fi series The Avengers and co-created the science-fiction series Doctor Who.

After his return to Canada in 1970, Newman was appointed acting director of the Broadcast Programs Branch for the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission and then head of the National Film Board of Canada. He also occupied senior positions at the Canadian Film Development Corporation and Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as well as acting as an advisor to the Secretary of State. (Full article...)

December 2

Windswept Adan

Ichiko Aoba
Ichiko Aoba

Windswept Adan is the seventh studio album by Japanese singer-songwriter Ichiko Aoba, released on 2 December 2020 by her label, Hermine. The concept album follows the story of a young girl who is sent away by her family to the fictional island of Adan. Aoba and composer Taro Umebayashi wrote, composed, arranged, and produced the music for the album, which was preceded by one single, "Porcelain". Windswept Adan is a chamber folk and psychedelic folk album with elements of jazz, classical, and ambient music. Marking a departure from Aoba's earlier minimalist instrumentation, it includes a celesta, wind chimes, string arrangements, and vocal performances. The album received widespread critical acclaim for its arrangements, instrumentation, and worldbuilding. Upon its release, the album debuted at number 82 on the Billboard Japan Hot Albums chart and number 88 on the Oricon Albums Chart. Aoba supported the album with her first international tour between August and October 2022. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): Takin' It Back is scheduled for October 21.
  • Main editors: Joeyquism, credit to Dank for the blurb
  • Promoted: July 11, 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: Recently promoted FA; 4th anniversary of release. As far as I know, the first Japanese-language album to be a FA.
  • Support as nominator. joeyquism (talk) 05:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:39, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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Date Article Reason Primary author(s) Added by (if different)
November 8 Mario Party DS Why The Green Star Collector
November 8 Ghost in the Machine (song) Why Dylan620 and PSA 750h+
November 11 Mells War Memorial Why HJ Mitchell Ham II
November 17 SMS Friedrich Carl Why Parsecboy Peacemaker67
November 18 Donkey Kong Country Why TheJoebro64, Jaguar TheJoebro64
November 19 My Little Love Why MaranoFan
November 21 MLS Cup 1999 Why SounderBruce
November 22 Donkey Kong 64 Why czar
November 27 Interstate 182 Why SounderBruce
November 28 Battle of Cane Hill Why Hog Farm
December 3 PlayStation (console) Why Jaguar Dank
December 8 You Belong with Me Why Ippantekina Sheila1988
December 10 Shovel Knight Showdown Why The Night Watch Gerda Arendt
December 19 SMS Niobe Why Peacemaker67
December 20 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Why TheJoebro64 Sheila1988
2025:
January 1 York Park Why Harizotoh9
January 4 Liza Soberano Why Pseud 14
January 6 Maria Trubnikova Why Ganesha811 Dank
January 8 Elvis Presley Why PL290, DocKino, Rikstar Dank
January 9 Title (album) Why MaranoFan
January 20 Andrew Jackson Why Wtfiv Sheila1988
January 22 Caitlin Clark Why Sportzeditz Dank
January 27 The Holocaust in Bohemia and Moravia Why Harizotoh9
January 28 Lewis W. Green Why PCN02WPS
January 29 Dominik Hašek Why Harizotoh9
February 9 Japanese battleship Tosa Why The ed17
February 10 Siege of Baghdad Why AirshipJungleman29
March 10 Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number Why NegativeMP1
March 12 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season Why SounderBruce
March 18 Edward the Martyr Why Amitchell125 Sheila1988
March 26 Pierre Boulez Why Dmass Sheila1988
April 1 Pig-faced women Why Harizotoh9
April 12 Dolly de Leon Why Pseud 14
April 15 Lady Blue (TV series) Why Aoba47 Harizotoh9
April 18 Battle of Poison Spring Why HF
April 24 "I'm God" Why Skyshifter
April 25 1925 FA Cup Final Why Kosack Dank
May 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian) (re-run, first TFA was May 14, 2015) Why Peacemaker67
May 6 Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories Why Harizotoh9
May 10 Ben&Ben Why Pseud 14
May 11 Mother (Meghan Trainor song) Why MaranoFan
June The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished Why iridescent Harizotoh9
June 3 David Evans (RAAF officer) Why Harizotoh9
June 6 American logistics in the Northern France campaign Why Hawkeye7 Sheila1988
June 8 Barbara Bush Why Harizotoh9
July 1 Maple syrup Why Nikkimaria Dank
July 7 Gustav Mahler Why Brianboulton Dank
July 14 William Hanna Why Rlevse Dank
July 26 Liz Truss Why Tim O'Doherty Tim O'Doherty and Dank
July 29 Tiger Why LittleJerry
July 31 Battle of Warsaw (1705) Why Imonoz Harizotoh9
August 4 Death of Ms Dhu Why Freikorp AirshipJungleman29
August 23 Yugoslav torpedo boat T3 Why Peacemaker67
August 30 Late Registration Why Harizotoh9
September 2 1905–06 New Brompton F.C. season Why Harizotoh9
September 6 Hurricane Ophelia (2005) Why Harizotoh9
September 20 Myst V: End of Ages Why Harizotoh9
September 30 or October 1 Hoover Dam Why NortyNort, Wehwalt Dank
October 1 Yugoslav torpedo boat T4 Why Peacemaker67
October 3 Spaghetti House siege Why SchroCat Dank
October 10 Tragic Kingdom Why EA Swyer Harizotoh9
October 16 Angela Lansbury Why Midnightblueowl MisawaSakura
October 18 Royal Artillery Memorial Why HJ Mitchell Ham II
November 1 Matanikau Offensive Why Harizotoh9
November 19 Water Under the Bridge Why MaranoFan
November 20 Nuremberg trials Why buidhe harizotoh9
November 21 Canoe River train crash Why Wehwalt
December 22 or 25 A Very Trainor Christmas Why MaranoFan MaranoFan
December 25 Marcus Trescothick Why Harizotoh9
2026:
January 27 History of the Jews in Dęblin and Irena during World War II Why Harizotoh9
February 27 Raichu Why Kung Fu Man
May 5 Me Too (Meghan Trainor song) Why MaranoFan
June 1 Rhine campaign of 1796 Why harizotoh9
June 8 Types Riot Why Z1720
July 23 Veronica Clare Why Harizotoh9
September 20 Persona (series) Why Harizotoh9
November The Story of Miss Moppet Why Harizotoh9
November 11 U.S. Route 101 Why SounderBruce
October 15 Easy on Me Why MaranoFan
December 21 Fredonian Rebellion Why Harizotoh9
December 22 Title (song) Why MaranoFan
2027:
June 1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?) Why
August 25 Genghis Khan Why AirshipJungleman29


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Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance

Living Colour in 1993

The Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance was an award presented at the Grammy Awards to recording artists for works (songs or albums) containing quality vocal performances in the hard rock genre. The honor was first presented to Living Colour (pictured) at the 32nd Annual Grammy Awards (1990) for the song "Cult of Personality". The bands Foo Fighters, Living Colour, and the Smashing Pumpkins share the record for the most wins, with two each. Alice in Chains holds the record for the most nominations without a win, with eight. (Full list...)

Thanks for your consideration! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

List of accolades received by Interstellar

Interstellar, a 2014 epic and science fiction film directed by Christopher Nolan (pictured), garnered accolades in a variety of categories, with particular recognition for Nolan's direction as well as its musical score, cinematography, production design, and visual effects. It received five nominations at the 87th Academy Awards, winning Best Visual Effects. At the 68th British Academy Film Awards, it was nominated for Best Original Music, Best Cinematography and Best Production Design, and won Best Special Visual Effects. The film received eleven nominations at the 41st Saturn Awards, winning six, and seven nominations at the 20th Critics' Choice Awards, winning Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie. Interstellar was named one of the Top 11 Films of 2014 by the American Film Institute. (Full list...)

I'd like to suggest September 27, 2024 to coincide with its 10-year anniversary re-release. Sgubaldo (talk) 03:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

The re-release of Interstellar is now scheduled for December 6, 2024, according to Variety. I don't know if you want to move the date you want this posted to the new re-release date. Birdienest81talk 08:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
@Sgubaldo: Courtesy ping for ya. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Ah yes, good point. December 6, 2024 then, please. Sgubaldo (talk) 06:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Just a thought – the awards list for The Force Awakens was suggested for December 13, and since we generally aim for variety on the main page, it might not be ideal to have two sci-fi movie awards lists so close to each other. Maybe one of them could wait? Personally, I think it makes more sense to have Interstellar this year and TFA next year so each is listed at its ten-year anniversary. Alternatively, this list could run in early November to align with its original release date. Pinging Sgubaldo and Chompy Ace for input. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
If Chompy is alright with it, I'd like the Interstellar one to run in December this year because it's specifically the 10th anniversary, which is a significant milestone. If Chompy still wants to run TFA, then I suppose I can move Interstellar to something like November 8. Sgubaldo (talk) 19:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Sgubaldo, I will keep my The Force Awakens nom. As a result, the Interstellar one would be suggested for November 8, 2024, closest to the film's tenth anniversary of its United States release (as outlined in the references). Chompy Ace 01:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Fine with me. Sgubaldo (talk) 14:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Anjelica Huston

Anjelica Huston is an American actress and filmmaker who has received numerous accolades throughout her career. She had her breakthrough role in the black comedy film Prizzi's Honor (1985), which won her the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, making her the third generation of her family to win an Oscar, following her father John and grandfather Walter Huston. She received two additional Academy Award nominations for Enemies, A Love Story (1989) and The Grifters (1990). She received two BAFTA Award nominations for the Woody Allen–directed films Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) and Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993), and two Golden Globe Award nominations for her interpretation of Morticia Addams in The Addams Family (1991) and its sequel Addams Family Values (1993). (Full list...)

--Leo Mercury (talk) 18:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


List of accolades received by Star Wars: The Force Awakens

John Williams
John Williams

Star Wars: The Force Awakens, a 2015 American epic space opera film directed by J. J. Abrams, won 40 awards from 104 nominations, with particular recognition for its visual effects, musical score, and sound effects. It garnered two nominations at the 88th Academy Awards, including Best Visual Effects. At the 69th British Academy Film Awards, the film was nominated for Best Original Music, Best Sound, and Best Production Design; and won Best Special Visual Effects. The film received a nomination for Best Picture at the 21st Critics' Choice Awards. In 2016, composer John Williams (pictured) won Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media at the Grammy Awards' 59th ceremony. It won eight of fifteen nominations at the 42nd Saturn Awards. In addition, the American Film Institute selected The Force Awakens as one of the top ten films of the year. (Full list...)

Would suggest for December 13, 2024, as it is the closest to the anniversary of the Hollywood, Los Angeles, premiere of Star Wars: The Force Awakens on December 14, 2015. Chompy Ace 23:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Outline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared universe created by Marvel Studios. Beginning in 2008 with the release of the film Iron Man, the franchise has since expanded to include various feature films and television series produced by Marvel Studios, television series from Marvel Television, and other media based on Marvel Comics characters. The franchise's most recent release is the film Thunderbolts*. Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige (pictured) oversees the main MCU productions. The MCU, similar to the original Marvel Universe, was established by crossing over common plot elements, settings, cast, and characters. It has been commercially successful, becoming one of the highest-grossing media franchises and the highest-grossing film franchise. This includes Avengers: Endgame, which concluded its theatrical run in 2019 as the highest-grossing film of all time. The franchise's success has influenced other studios to attempt similar shared universes. (Full list...)

I would like to suggest this for May 2, 2025, as it is the 17 year anniversary of the release of the first MCU film, Iron Man, to a tee. I know 2025 is a ways away, though I felt it was best to get this submitted sooner rather than later. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I have made a few modifications to this blurb since I originally submitted it, including swapping the image and mentioning what the most recent release of this franchise will be by the time of the date I have requested, because that film's release coincides with the intended date. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

77th Academy Awards

Clint Eastwood
Clint Eastwood

The 77th Academy Awards ceremony, presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), honored films released in 2004 and took place on February 27, 2005, at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood, Los Angeles. During the ceremony, AMPAS presented Academy Awards in 24 categories. The ceremony, televised in the United States by ABC, was produced by Gilbert Cates and directed by Louis J. Horvitz. Actor Chris Rock hosted the show for the first time. Million Dollar Baby won four awards including Best Picture and Best Director for Clint Eastwood (pictured). Other winners included The Aviator with five awards and The Incredibles and Ray with two. The telecast garnered over 42 viewers in the United States. (Full list...)

I would like this list to be posted on March 3 since the 97th Academy Awards are scheduled for March 2 (or March 3 00:00 UTC), and it will have been 20 years since this particular ceremony occurred. Birdienest81talk 06:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

List of presidents of the United States

Since the presidency of the United States was established in 1789, 45 men have served in 46 presidencies. The president is the head of state and government, elected indirectly for a four-year term via the Electoral College. The officeholder leads the executive branch of the federal government and is the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces. The first president, George Washington, won a unanimous vote of the Electoral College, and was the only one never affiliated with a political party. William Henry Harrison's presidency was the shortest at 31 days. Franklin D. Roosevelt served the longest, over twelve years, and is the only president to serve more than two terms. Since the Twenty-second Amendment in 1951, no person may be elected president more than twice, and no one who has served more than two years of another's term may be elected more than once. Four presidents died of natural causes in office (William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin D. Roosevelt), four were assassinated (Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy), and one resigned (Richard Nixon). The incumbent president is _____, who assumed office on January 20, 20__ (Full list...)

Feel free to copy-edit the blurb or make any other appropriate changes. As for the image, I decided to go with this group pic rather that simply the presidential flag or the White House. The portraits of Joe Biden/Donald Trump might be a bit controversial. I, alongside many other editors, helped promote this list to FL status a few years ago, and what would be a better date to run it than January 20, 2025 (Monday)! The only hurdle would be that we'll require assistance from an admin to update it real-time to change it from Biden to whoever would be. Let me know what your thoughts are. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 19:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

What if it was worded as "The most recently elected president is ___, who takes office on January 20, 2025."? I don't think that would have to be updated during the day. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
"45 men have served in 46 presidencies" will also be needed to update; as the things stand, Biden is not seeking another term, so this figure, for sure, would have to be changed at 12 noon Washington DC time, or whenever the next president takes the oath. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Good point. If we end up having an admin update this, I don't think that would be too challenging as long as the exact change is specified in advance. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

United States congressional delegations from Arizona

Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022
Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022

Since Arizona became a U.S. state in 1912, it has sent congressional delegations to the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives, beginning with the 63rd United States Congress in 1913. Before becoming a state, the Arizona Territory elected a non-voting delegate at-large to Congress from 1864 to 1912. Each state elects two senators to serve for six years, and varying numbers of members of the House, depending on state population, to two-year terms. Arizona has sent nine members to the House in each delegation since the 2010 United States Census. A total of 57 people have served Arizona in the House and 14 have served Arizona in the Senate. The first woman to serve Arizona in the House was Isabella Greenway. Seven women have served Arizona in the House, including Kyrsten Sinema and Martha McSally, who also served Arizona in the Senate, the only women to do so. (Full list...)

Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:58, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

List of cities in Donetsk Oblast

View of Donetsk, capital and most populous city in the oblast
View of Donetsk, capital and most populous city in the oblast

In Ukraine's eastern Donetsk Oblast, there are 52 populated places officially granted city status by the Verkhovna Rada, the country's parliament. Settlements with more than 10,000 people are eligible to become cities although the status is also typically given by parliament to settlements of historical or regional importance. According to the country's last official census in 2001, the most populous city in the oblast was the regional capital Donetsk, with a population of 1,016,194 people, while the least populous city was Sviatohirsk, with 5,136 people. Following fighting during the Donbas war, 21 of the oblast's cities were occupied by pro-Russian separatists. After the enactment of decommunization laws across the country, ten cities in both Ukrainian-controlled and separatist-occupied territory were given new names in 2016 which were unrecognized by de facto pro-Russian officials in the occupied cities. During the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops have occupied an additional eleven cities, of which two (Lyman and Sviatohirsk) were recovered by Ukraine. (Full list...)

List of Johnson solids

The Johnson solid is a convex polyhedron in which all of the faces are regular polygons. Here, polyhedron means a three-dimensions object containing flat faces that are bounded by the edges, and a polyhedron is said to be convex if the faces are not in the same plane and the edges are not in the same line. There are 92 Johnson solids, and some of the authors exclude uniform polyhedrons from the definition: Archimedean solids, Platonic solids, prisms, and antiprisms. The set of solids was published by American mathematician Norman Johnson in 1966. The list was completed and no other examples existed was proved by Russian-Israeli mathematician Victor Zalgaller in 1969. (Full list...)

I would like to suggest two dates based on the international day: either the date of December 5, 2024 as part of the International Dodecahedron Day or the date of March 14, 2025, which coincide the International Day of Mathematics. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 04:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I think March 14, 2025 works better, as it falls on a Friday (December 5 is a Thursday this year so the date would have to be shifted). RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

List of Zambian parliamentary constituencies

Location of Zambia within Africa
Location of Zambia within Africa

The National Assembly is the unicameral legislature of Zambia, a landlocked country in southern Africa, east of Angola. The seat of the assembly is at the capital of the country, Lusaka, and it is presided over by a Speaker and two deputy Speakers. The National Assembly has existed since 1964, before which it was known as the Legislative Council. Since 2016, the assembly has had 167 members. Of those, 156 are elected by the first-past-the-post system in single-member constituencies, a further eight are appointed by the President, and three others are ex officio members. The constitution mandates that the constituencies are delimited after every census by the Electoral Commission of Zambia. (Full list...)

Doctor Who Christmas and New Year's Specials

The TARDIS on the set of "The Church on Ruby Road"
The TARDIS on the set of "The Church on Ruby Road"

Since 2005, Doctor Who has aired 19 special episodes on Christmas or New Year's Day. During its original run, from 1963–1989, episodes were occasionally broadcast over holiday periods, but they rarely made mention of the holidays. Once the programme was revived in 2005, special Christmas episodes were produced yearly until 2017. From 2018–2022, the show transitioned to New Year's Day specials instead. The series then returned to Christmas specials once more in 2023. The holiday episodes have proven to be a success with viewers, by bringing in larger viewing figures than regular episodes of the programme. Doctor Who is a British science-fiction television series that airs on BBC One and releases on Disney+. It revolves around an alien called the Doctor who travels with a companion in a time and space machine called the TARDIS. A twentieth special, "Joy to the World", is set to release on December 25, 2024. (Full list...)

I'd like to suggest this for December 23, 2024, for obvious reasons. Thanks! TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

List of Liechtenstein general elections

General elections in Liechtenstein have been held since the ratification of the 1862 constitution in which the Landtag of Liechtenstein was established. Political parties did not exist in Liechtenstein until they were formed in 1918. Before the ratification of the 1921 constitution, the head of government was not elected, but rather appointed by the prince of Liechtenstein, thus elections were only held to elect members of the Landtag. Under the constitution general elections are held for the members of the Landtag of Liechtenstein, who then elect the prime minister. As of 2021, there have been 48 general elections held in Liechtenstein. (Full list...)

TheBritinator (talk) 21:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

List of Seattle Kraken draft picks

Matty Beniers was the first ever draft selection for the Kraken, taken second overall in 2021.
Matty Beniers was the first ever draft selection for the Kraken, taken second overall in 2021.

The Seattle Kraken have selected 36 players through four NHL entry drafts as of 2024. The Kraken compete in the National Hockey League as a member of the Pacific Division of the Western Conference and began play during the league's 2021–22 season. The NHL entry draft is held each off-season, allowing teams to select players who have turned 18 years old by September 15 in the year the draft is held. The Kraken's first-ever draft pick was Matty Beniers, taken second overall in the 2021 NHL entry draft. After the 2022–23 season, Beniers won the Calder Memorial Trophy as the league's best rookie after accumulating 24 goals and 33 assists in 80 games. The Kraken's second overall pick in 2021 was the highest they have ever drafted. Only four of the Kraken's draft picks have gone on to play with the Kraken: Beniers, Ryker Evans, Ryan Winterton, and Shane Wright. (Full list...)

XR228 (talk) 18:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Seattle Kraken broadcasters

John Forslund has been the Kraken's play-by-play announcer for all three of their seasons.
John Forslund has been the Kraken's play-by-play announcer for all three of their seasons.

The Seattle Kraken throughout their history have been primarily televised on Root Sports Northwest and radio broadcast primarily on KJR-FM. The Kraken compete in the National Hockey League as a member of the Pacific Division of the Western Conference and began play during the league's 2021–22 season. John Forslund serves as the team's television play-by-play announcer. J. T. Brown is the Kraken's primary television color analyst. In August 2022, the team hired Eddie Olczyk to be a television analyst alongside Forslund and Brown. Everett Fitzhugh serves as the team's primary radio play-by-play announcer. He is the first Black full-time play-by-play announcer in NHL history. Dave Tomlinson served as Fitzhugh's color analyst for the Kraken's first two seasons, before resigning in August 2023. The Kraken hired commentator Al Kinisky to replace him. Kraken games were televised regionally on Root Sports Northwest for the team's first three seasons. On April 25, 2024, the Kraken signed a deal with Tegna, owners of television stations KING-TV and KONG, to air their games throughout their territory, with streaming handled by Amazon Prime Video. For radio, Kraken games are broadcast on KJR-FM 93.3 and KJR AM 950, the flagship stations of the Kraken Audio Network. (Full list...)

XR228 (talk) 20:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by the Linda Lindas

List of songs recorded by the Linda Lindas
List of songs recorded by the Linda Lindas

American rock band the Linda Lindas have recorded songs for one studio album, two extended plays (EPs), multiple singles, and other album appearances. The band consists of guitarist Lucia de la Garza, drummer Mila de la Garza, guitarist Bela Salazar and bassist Eloise Wong. Along with their main catalog, the Linda Lindas have appeared on one cover, one remix, and one tribute album, as well as soundtracks. Among the songs, eight are covers, and most were produced by Carlos de la Garza, the father of band members Lucia and Mila. (Full list...)

{{The Sharpest Lives|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 20:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

List of World Chess Championships

Garry Kasparov (left) and Viswanathan Anand (right) in the observation deck of 2 World Trade Center during the 1995 Classical World Chess Championship
Garry Kasparov (left) and Viswanathan Anand (right) in the observation deck of 2 World Trade Center during the 1995 Classical World Chess Championship

The World Chess Championship has taken several distinct forms since Wilhelm Steinitz defeated Johannes Zukertort in an 1886 match to become the first undisputed World Chess Champion. Following a period of private organization and sponsorship, the International Chess Federation (FIDE) began organizing Championship events under its auspices following the end of World War II, instituting a regular cycle of tournaments held to determine the challenger for each Championship match. In the 1990s, FIDE faced competition with the Classical Chess Championship inaugurated by former FIDE Champion Garry Kasparov, and began experimenting with the format by organizing several Championships as tournaments instead of as matches. The title was ultimately reunited under FIDE via the World Chess Championship 2006, where the Classical Champion Vladimir Kramnik defeated the FIDE Champion Veselin Topalov in match play. (Full list...)

I would like to suggest an appearance date of 23 November 2024, corresponding to the scheduled start of the World Chess Championship 2024. Remsense ‥  14:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Seattle Kraken players

Kraken alternate captain Adam Larsson has played 245 games with the team, meaning he has played all games in the Kraken's three 82-game seasons but one.
Kraken alternate captain Adam Larsson has played 245 games with the team, meaning he has played all games in the Kraken's three 82-game seasons but one.

The Seattle Kraken have had 59 players play for the team in at least one regular season game as of 2024. The Kraken are a professional ice hockey team that is a member of the Pacific Division of the National Hockey League. Adam Larsson has the most games played out of any Kraken, with 245. Jared McCann leads the Kraken in both goals and points, with 96 and 182, respectively. Vince Dunn leads the Kraken in assists, with 113. Each NHL team may also select a captain, who has the "privilege of discussing with the Referee any questions relating to interpretation of rules which may arise during the progress of a game." The only player to have served as captain of the Kraken is Mark Giordano, his captaincy starting in October 2021 and ending five months later. As the Kraken currently do not have a captain, they are allowed to name four alternate captains—Adam Larsson, Jordan Eberle, Yanni Gourde, and Jaden Schwartz. (Full list...)

XR228 (talk) 00:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Vegas Golden Knights players

Five Golden Knights players warming up before a game in February 2018
Five Golden Knights players warming up before a game in February 2018

The Vegas Golden Knights have had 96 players appear for the team in at least one regular-season game as of 2024, including 84 skaters (forwards and defencemen) and 12 goaltenders. An American professional ice hockey franchise located in Las Vegas, Nevada, the Golden Knights were founded ahead of the 2017–18 season as an expansion team, and play in the Pacific Division of the Western Conference in the National Hockey League (NHL). Jonathan Marchessault leads the franchise in games played, goals, assists, and points, as well as several playoff records, while Marc-Andre Fleury holds most goaltender records. Mark Stone has served as the franchise's first and only captain since 2021. 27 players, including 23 skaters and an NHL-record 4 goaltenders, were inscribed on the Stanley Cup following Vegas' victory in the 2023 Stanley Cup Finals. (Full list...)

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John Hopfield in 2016 and Geoffrey Hinton in 2023
John Hopfield (left) and Geoffrey Hinton

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October 9


RD: Lee Wei Ling

Article: Lee Wei Ling (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/lee-wei-ling-daughter-lee-kuan-yew-dies-aged-69-4667096
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Daughter of Lee Kuan Yew, sister of Lee Hsien Loong (both Prime Ministers of Singapore). There are portions that may still require citations. – robertsky (talk) 00:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

October 8

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RD: Luis Tiant

Article: Luis Tiant (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Admittedly, needs a lot of work. Hopefully can be improved by the end of the week, to get listed at RD. Natg 19 (talk) 17:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Arie L. Kopelman

Article: Arie L. Kopelman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WWD
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Thriley (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Taye Atske Selassie elected President of Ethiopia

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Article: Taye Atske Selassie (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Taye Atske Selassie is elected President of Ethiopia, succeeding Sahle-Work Zewde. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Taye Atske Selassie is appointed President of Ethiopia, succeeding Sahle-Work Zewde.
News source(s): Bloomberg Barron's (AFP)
Credits:

There probably should be an article for the 2024 Ethiopian presidential election. Varavour (talk) 14:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Soft support with new blurb there was no election, Selassie was appointed to the office. But still, this is a new head of state and ITN/R Scuba 14:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Ethiopia is a parliamentary republic and the role of the President is largely ceremonial. Does that still qualify it for ITN/R? Scaramouche33 (talk) 16:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    no, not automatically. It can be discussed under the criteria of newsworthiness and relevance. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Support - Change of head of state, ITN/R applies. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Support. New head of state, and a recurring item. 64.114 etc 19:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Nobel Prize in Physics

Proposed image
Hopfield (left) and Hinton (right)
Articles: John Hopfield (talk · history · tag) and Geoffrey Hinton (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton receive the Nobel Prize in Physics for their inventions that enable machine learning with artificial neural networks. (Post)
Alternative blurb: John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton receive the Nobel Prize in Physics for their research in machine learning with artificial neural networks.
News source(s): The Guardian The New York Times Nobel Prize press release
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Hopfield's article needs some work, but Hinton's article is in good shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 10:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Support (for Hopfield) I just removed all nonsense from Hopfield article and cited what can be cited.--ReyHahn (talk) 11:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
We even have images now if you want to make it an image blurb.--ReyHahn (talk) 17:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support For once, quality of both awardees are good and updated, no need for major hair pulling rush to get ready for posting. --Masem (t) 11:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Could somebody with photo editing software please produce a combined mugshot for those Nobel recipients? Schwede66 19:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    • @Schwede66: added image of both laureates using images from their respective infoboxes. Licensing info might need tweaking but I tried my best. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
      Yeah, not sure what the correct way is when we've got a mix of two different licenses. But the individual images have suitable licenses and that's what's important. Thanks for your help! Schwede66 21:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on quality. 64.114 etc 21:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on quality per 64 etc. 2605:8D80:400:BBDB:BC17:A461:397B:9102 (talk) 21:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 22:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

October 7

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RD: Lore Segal

Article: Lore Segal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, ABC News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Austrian-American novelist, teacher and short story writer. 240F:7A:6253:1:4C5F:E789:5E5F:4B18 (talk) 06:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Hurricane Milton

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Article: Hurricane Milton (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Hurricane Milton (pictured) is upgraded to a Category 5 hurricane. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Hurricane Milton (pictured) is upgraded to a Category 5 hurricane by the National Hurricane Center.
Alternative blurb II: Hurricane Milton (pictured), one of the fastest-intensifying and most intense Atlantic hurricanes on record, approaches Florida.
News source(s): [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
Credits:

This Hurricane has had incredible effects on the southern United States already, it's already a category 5 hurricane and has caused mass evacuations so far. It is as strong as Hurricane Dean, and is currently the dominating the reporting in the US. It is an important historical event that is occurring. Des Vallee (talk) 23:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Wait as per usual we wait to see what the impact is, not before it makes landfall. It has a good chance to be posted after that. Masem (t) 23:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait Unlike Helene, we have a conceivable chance of seeing an objective record being broken, with Milton already having the fastest intensification from TD to Category 5. Otherwise, wait until landfall and actual impacts. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 23:22, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait until the impacts are known, although I would support blurbing this if more intensity records are broken by this storm. (I mean, it's already the 5th most intense Atlantic hurricane as of this writing, I would not be surprised if it would try to break Wilma's record low pressure.) Vida0007 (talk) 00:09, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    I believe it is now the most intense in the Gulf of Mexico, and the strongest since Wilma overall. I don't think it's going to reach Wilma's intensity though. It's probably going to be blurbed at landfall anyway. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:11, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • SMH. Can we PLEASE wait for impacts in the future? Not gonna request a closure like last time because Milton is already impacting portions of the Gulf Coast and probably will be worthy of posting within 48 hours, but really, we should wait in the future. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    I think that Milton in particular is different than Helene and the other one I can't remember immediately: Milton is setting records well over 24 hours out from landfall, and I think that warrants having an ITN discussion open. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:15, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    ITN is not great for posting of records that routinely get broken (like strongest storms). Its the impact of the storm that matters, because not only that is what gets larger attention, but also a better judge for quality of the article to make sure it covers the bulk of such impacts. — Masem (t) 00:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    Seconding what Masem said. And I'm gonna say the forbidden words again: as things stand currently, Milton is a much better DYK candidate than a ITN candidate. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:40, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    No, it's quite unsuitable for DYK because it's breaking news and so the article will be getting lots of development. The DYK process might take weeks as it has a long pipeline which is overloaded and so is not appropriate for such a topical topic. ITN is obviously the best place to handle this as it routinely covers weather stories and is currently blurbing two others. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait Can't we just wait for the tropical cyclone's impacts instead of nominating it as soon as it reaches a certain intensity? Patience is a virtue. --ZZZ'S 00:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It already seems clear that this is a big one and the preparations are in the news. The article seems reasonably substantial with 65 citations and counting. It's silly to hold back on this so we can continue to blurb a stale sports story from over a week ago. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    I'm unconvinced that there's a reason to bash a sports nomination, especially given that 1 week isn't particularly long ago. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:28, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    That blurb has been run for 8 straight days now, which is much more than the typical featured article gets, never mind DYK. But you know the saying "there's nothing as stale as yesterday's news"? Just think how much more that applies when it's last week's news or last month's news, as it is in that case. And then there's diminishing returns too. After our readers have seen the item a few times, then they will starting tuning it out. And so the consequence is that just about no-one is reading that article now. It's done.
    The fix for this is easy; just run new items that are actually in the news. Like this hurricane that is so terrifying that it moved a veteran meteorologist to tears.
    Andrew🐉(talk) 14:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support I agree with Andrew Davidson, The article is in a good shape, is making headlines and I think it is good enough time now to post this. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose until we can give Milton a blurb that puts it above all the other category 5 hurricanes that didn't make ITN. So far, all we have is preparations (WP:CRYSTALBALL), the intensity (strongest since 2005), and the speed of intensification (fastest on record from tropical depression to category 5). If we can't, then let's have the patience to wait until landfall. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 11:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    • Support Altblurb 2 proposed, which I think gives it the correct importance. Yes, it's before landfall we're supporting it, but this is a record-setter after all (strongest since 2005, least time between TD and cat 5 hurricane). GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per GeorgeMemulous. Based on the intensification, this particular one is an exception to the rule that we wait for a direct landfall on the mainland U.S. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:29, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait It hasn't hit land yet, its a good idea to wait for its effects and any casualty tolls before it is published on ITN. It is also a good idea include Helene alongside it when it makes landfall, as two powerful and devastating hurricanes in a very close period of time is notable. NikolaiVektovich (talk) 13:35, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    Helene's devastation was primarily in North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia (U.S. state), whereas Milton's is almost certainly going to be concentrated in Florida. While it is true both will have had significant impacts around Tampa, I think their geographic separation, the fact Helene is gone and stale, and the fact that Milton is so extraordinary means the blurb should only be on Milton. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • As others (and I) have pointed out numerous times in prior TC ITN proposals, we should Wait for impacts or future developments. Category 5 hurricanes are not particularly rare for the North Atlantic basin, and though its RI episode was impressive, I'm not sure if that is truly ITN-worthy. As far as I can recall, the only meteorological record Milton has solidly broken is its extremely unusual motion vector as a C5 hurricane, which is trivial information at best. Milton has not broken any notable meteorological records that may make it ITN-worthy regardless of impacts (e.g. most intense Atlantic hurricane, still comfortably held by Wilma). In regards to abundant news coverage of Milton, this is primarily due to its expected, potentially devastating impacts to the Tampa Bay Area and much of west Florida. Though significant impacts are almost certainly—and unfortunately—going to happen, WP:CRYSTAL applies here until they do happen.
ArkHyena (it/its) 14:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Wait for landfall, as per usual. Scuba 14:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per GeorgeMemulous. Huge news already due to millions of people ordered to evacuate and the existing documented extreme intensification and strength. There’s no need to wait, per WaltClip, and the article is in good shape per PrinceofPunjab. I strongly disagree with the reasoning expressed by !votes to wait. This is a blurb-worthy ITN story now. Jusdafax (talk) 16:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Already has made a bit of mess in the Yucatan peninsula where it brought rain and winds. (Reminder cyclones don't have to make landfall to do things) Mandatory evacuation orders issued, mass evacuations, some major airports already closed. Seems pretty impactful to me already. Tampa Bay mayor: "you're going to die" The purpose of ITN, and Wikipedia, is to serve the readers, not play Nomic and make up a bunch of arbitrary rules and robotically apply them no matter what. The "real world" is frequently messy and comes in many shades of gray, not stark blank-and-white. (idly wonders whether if an asteroid were predicted on a near certain collision course with a major city, people at ITN would strenuously argue "we have to wait and see what the impacts (heh heh) are first before we post it, can't foretell the future don't know what'll happen for certain") --Slowking Man (talk) 16:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    Besides the implied false equivalency between tropical cyclones, where dozens make land impacts every year, and an asteroid strike on a major city, which would be entirely unprecedented in human history, there is the fact that weather forecasts can and do bust. Milton's impacts on Florida are far from "near certain", even if I would state that significant to catastrophic impacts are very likely myself. Weather is messy and it would be bad practice to push a weather event to ITN on the presumption that it will inflict significant impacts before those impacts actually happen. A prime example would be Typhoon Bebinca (2024), which for several days appeared likely (and was explicitly forecast by the JTWC) to make an unprecedented and potentially devastating landfall near Shanghai before dry air halted its intensification. ArkHyena (it/its) 23:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait to see impact. - RockinJack18 16:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait/Oppose Alt Blurb I per above. Sure it's one of the strongest Atlantic hurricanes on record, but people will remember Milton for its destruction more. Oppose Alt Blurb I because there has been plenty of Category 5 hurricanes that didn't make ITN, like Hurricane Lee (2023) and Hurricane Lorenzo (2019). For other Category 5 hurricanes that made it it ITN, it was for its destruction, not its strength. For Alb Blurb II, it can be added to future destruction info. INeedSupport :3 18:25, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait but noting now my support once it makes landfall. As I am just south of Tampa on Florida's west coast, I probably am going to be offline when it comes in and possibly for some days following. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    Best of luck, Ad Orientem. Look after yourself. Schwede66 21:28, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    Thank you. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per Andrew Davidson. This is already in the news now, and the scale of evacuation is unprecedented. We can update it if or when things worsen, but there is no hard rule which says we need to delay. Also, on a communal responsibility level, I think we should be blurbing this for our readers now with altblurb2 making clear the severity... believe it or not, there are many who do not check the news and we can do our part in communicating how serious this is is. FlipandFlopped 21:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    I object to the point that blurbing this before it makes landfall is a good idea ignoring notability to inform those in the storm's path. By now I find it hard to believe that anyone in the track of Milton doesn't know what's going on, and those that do probably aren't checking Wikipedia's In The News, and even then, I don't know what's left to do after all the panic buying and evacuations being stalled on the highways. Wikipedia is not a newspaper and I'd bet less than half a percent of Wikipedia's reader base is even in the path. If they weren't swayed by world news headlines, I doubt they'd be swayed by an ITN entry. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's in the news, and the impacts are already being felt as hundreds of thousands of people are evacuating. Kcmastrpc (talk) 21:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose The evacuations arent going to be of much importance compared to the impact.
Noah, BSBATalk 21:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support once it makes landfall I'm very biased on this one as I'm in its path and it would be a miracle if I still had the ability to log in to cast a !vote after landfall actually happens and the impacts start to become known, but if the storm's impact on Tampa, Clearwater, Sarasota, etc is anywhere near what is forecast, it is all but certain that this will warrant posting. Wishing Ad Orientem and anyone else in Milton's path all the best. Stay safe, and get somewhere safer if you still can.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 01:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Cissy Houston

Article: Cissy Houston (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

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Mother of Whitney Houston, singer with The Sweet Inspirations which preformed with many acts such as Elvis, and also brief solo career. Issues exist with the article. TheCorriynial (talk) 19:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article needs work. Scuba 14:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Zaw Myint Maung

Article: Zaw Myint Maung (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Week,ABCNews
Credits:
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Nominator's comments: Close aide of Aung San Suu Kyi Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine

Articles: Victor Ambros (talk · history · tag) and Gary Ruvkun (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Victor Ambros and Gary Ruvkun receive the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for their discovery of microRNA. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, Nobel Prize press release
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Standard fare for ITN. Putting it up here to discuss whether article quality is adequate. Sandstein 11:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC) / Consolidated with an edit-conflicted nomination by Oceanh (talk) 11:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose for now; the awards sections in both articles are almost entirely uncited. Estreyeria (talk) 14:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose articles look fine, but neither have a section on winning the nobel prize, I'd be willing to change my vote when those sections are made. Scuba 15:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose until more valid references are added and non-documented personal information is removed. We have to be careful per WP:BLP.--ReyHahn (talk) 16:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait because we should post all of the winners at once. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 00:35, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    We never done such a thing.--ReyHahn (talk) 10:18, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose both of the bolded articles needs more sources. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ildar Dadin

Article: Ildar Dadin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died on Sunday but looks to have been confirmed today. Article is good length but needs more citations, especially in certain sections. Also needs a "death" section. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

2024 Kazakh nuclear power referendum

Article: 2024 Kazakh nuclear power referendum (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kazakhstan votes for its first nuclear power plant (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Kazakhstan approves proposed nuclear power plant in referendum
Alternative blurb II: ​ Kazakhstan votes for its first nuclear power plant since their independence from the Soviet Union.
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article needs updating

 ShadZ01 (talk) 11:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose: Not notable enough (according to me). High Admiral JMT (talk) 13:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on notability. There's no way to know if the plant will actually be finished, so ideally it should be nominated then. Also, Kazakhstan isn't under the same international nuclear scrutiny as somewhere like Iran, and this isn't exactly a fusion reactor - nuclear power has been around for many decades, and Kazakhstan is a leading exporter of uranium, so it's not a surprise one gets built. Plus, I doubt it's notable in of itself, beyond being the country's only one, assuming no disaster or international crisis happens, which from a glance at the article seems unlikely with 6 decades of nuclear safety backing it up. As for the steps towards global carbon neutrality, the Ratcliffe-on-Soar Power Station closure from 30 September is sitting in ITN limbo - receiving little attention, with unclear consensus.
Also, Nuclear power in Kazakhstan states in its first paragraph Kazakhstan already had a nuclear reactor online in the Soviet era, so this isn't really their first. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose we don't usually include referendums unless they're notable enough geopolitically. Scuba 14:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support i think it's important and faily unusual too, a big step from the usual anti nucelar sentiment of the western populace. Kasperquickly (talk) 23:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose We do not post referendums except in some extremely rare cases, this is not one of those cases. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Sometimes this gets a little tiring to hear at ITN, but I do think this is an instance of "more suited for WP:DYK". A 5-sec Web glance tells me there are several new reactors globally that had construction begin this year, and more with construction planned to commence in the near-term future. For me, this would lean more towards "ITN stuff" if there had been some long-term global reactor moratorium, and this had been a marked shift, or if KZ was a country known for a past stance of disapproval toward new reactor construction. But to my knowledge KZ just hasn't planned any new construction previously b/c of a mix of economic and political factors and lack of perceived need; please correct if wrong. --Slowking Man (talk) 18:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    And under what criterion would this article qualify for DYK, Slowking Man? Schwede66 22:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

October 6

Armed conflicts and attacks

Science and technology


RD: Sefedin Braho

Article: Sefedin Braho (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): A2 News (in Albanian)
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Well referenced although a little short Abcmaxx (talk) 08:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Dave Hobson

Article: Dave Hobson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MSN
Credits:
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Needs work but long time Congressman.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Johan Neeskens

Article: Johan Neeskens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, Reuters, AP News
Credits:
Article updated
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Noted Dutch football manager and player. 240F:7A:6253:1:31B8:ECBC:1D01:F0D8 (talk) 15:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Sinking of HMNZS Manawanui

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Article: HMNZS Manawanui (2019) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Royal New Zealand Navy ship Manawanui sinks off Upolu, Samoa, after running aground. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 12 people are injured as the Royal New Zealand Navy ship Manawanui sinks after grounding off Upolu, Samoa.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Fairly unusual for commissioned navy vessels to sink, particularly Western vessels. This is the first RNZN vessel to sink since WWII. Article could use some updating. Will see what I can add - Dumelow (talk) 18:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

I've expanded it to a reasonably complete update - Dumelow (talk) 19:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
I think I know what happened. Schwede66 03:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment We generally do not post military vessel accidents, since such are considered part of the duty. --Masem (t) 19:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Interested in seeing some discussion on this; I think such sinkings are rare enough (particularly in Western navies). We posted the accidental sinking of the Iranian navy's Kharg in 2021 - Dumelow (talk) 19:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Meaning no disrespect toward Her Majesty and no respect toward the Ayatollah, but IRIS Kharg had been around for longer, seeing more people and doing more things. Her loss was more "significant" for having spent those further 42 years afloat. Sometimes localized rarities just aren't rare enough. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose For the Royal New Zealand Navy, sure, not the most pleasant experience. But in terms of recent boat sinkings, count your blessings. Article isn't bad. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    There were more deaths, sure, but are you seriously comparing the sinking of a "locally made wooden boat", as described in your source, to a modern naval vessel? —Cryptic 22:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Not in construction, maintenance and several other ways we can (and should) view an object. But as an event, yeah. Both seriously sunk in two newsworthy ways (and one we generally don't post). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose No deaths, small ship, unimportant country (I didn't even know they had a military or a navy) Kasperquickly (talk) 22:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    That last part is an absurdly ignorant and snide comment, but from your past history, unfortunately not out of your typical behavior.
    Quit it if you want to continue participating in ITNR, because I can assure you people don’t like it. The Kip (contribs) 23:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Well, it got a hearty belly laugh out of me! Schwede66 03:24, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    @Kasperquickly Knock it off. If you are unable to contribute to a discussion w/o being rude and obnoxious, then kindly don't. You've been here long enough to know better. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    @Kasperquickly your on how many warnings again and you continue to do these acts?? learn a lesson please and stop with the offensive rhetoric and personal attacks on others Ion.want.uu (talk) 01:37, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah mate, real helpful. ITN isn’t for you to show off your ignorance it’s for discussion. I personally disagree with posting this but there are other ways to do it then saying oppose because “the country is unimportant (no such thing)” 27.96.223.193 (talk) 08:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    “the country is unimportant (no such thing)”
    there is such thing though, this palce has been filled with news about elections in pacific micronations with populations of 10,000 people for no other reason than the local editors wanting to virtue signal others how liberal they are Kasperquickly (talk) 23:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    I think 27 is referring to your (at least prior) idea that there's "no such thing" as a New Zealand Defence Force. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    I get the outrage, especially from the new zealander editors, but I actually honestly had thought New ZEaland was on this list: List of sovereign states without armed forces Kasperquickly (talk) 03:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    The important things are you learned something about the planet, New Zealanders have a fairly hardy sense of humour and Australia doesn't exist. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    I’m not even Kiwi? It’s just unproductive and annoying to see snarky comments on discussion pages. 27.96.223.193 (talk) 12:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
    A country is significant becuase it’s a country, and that’s a fact you cannot deny. We post elections because they are elections, we don’t get to pick and choose becuase they are objectively “unimportant” 27.96.223.193 (talk) 12:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on notability - this wasn't exactly the Sinking of the Moskva. 0 deaths and the destruction of an otherwise hardly notable ship with no indication this'll have any affect on the worldwide stage or as precedent for any future event. Before 48 hours ago, the article only had 2 paragraphs of prose, with none indicating particular significance beyond replacing the HMNZS Manawanui (A09) which itself is hardly notable. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: New Zealand is a popular country, and sinking of navy ships of powerful Western countries are indeed rare. High Admiral JMT (talk) 01:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on notability - a curious incident, but not an important or apparently significant one. LocoTacoFever (talk) 01:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article is in good shape. Not unusual for an article to be greatly expanded (or even created) after an event. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support No casualties, but the unintentional/accidental sinking of a sizable warship is above average notability-wise. The Kip (contribs) 04:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose — Insignificant event, non-notable subject. STSC (talk) 05:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose. Unfortunate event, but there were no casualties and the crew evacuated the ship safety. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 06:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Given her role (removing WW2 ordinance from shallow waters) it's unsurprising this grounding happened. Additionally, no fatalities mean relatively little impact -- other than embarrassment. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on importance. Ships regularly sink, buses crash, floods flood... Not a major story in international media. Sandstein 14:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: ships (fairly) often sink, but warships don't often -- particularly in the RNZN, which only has a handful of them. I believe this is the first time a Commonwealth naval ship has had to be abandoned since the Falklands, and the first in a long time outside war. Article looks good. UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    It wasn't a warship, it was a support vessel that was tasked with removing unexploded WW2 ordnance. Kcmastrpc (talk) 18:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support — Unusual "accident" that happened under mysterious circumstances; becoming notable because of the likelihood of oil spill and the potential environmental disaster affecting the locals.[9]STSC (talk) 17:07, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support — Maritime incident (sinking in this case) involving a state vessel. Don't dismiss it because it's an auxiliary (as opposed to a combatant). CoatCheck (talk) 17:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Failing to see any real impacts here besides being an expensive incident to clean up for the NZ navy. This actually IS a good item that DYK can cover if there's a bit more expansion of the article in the next few days. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- this doesn't seem to be a blurbworthy event. No one died, and it seems not to be being picked up in international news. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 23:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose not a major event and has (fortunately) no deaths. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

October 5

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Sports


RD: Ifigenia Martínez y Hernández

Article: Ifigenia Martínez y Hernández (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Proceso (in Spanish)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Abcmaxx (talk) 19:14, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is teetering on a stub, and almost all the sources are primary sources. Scuba 20:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose An unsourced early life/education, a load of primary sources for each legislature she was elected to, and then her death. The infobox runs further down the page than any of its text. WP:ITNQUALITY says "Articles should be a minimally comprehensive overview of the subject, not omitting any major items". We have absolutely nothing sourced from a third-party source for any event outside the last of her 5,148 weeks on Earth. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Coover

Article: Robert Coover (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Vladimir.copic (talk) 02:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Bibliography uncited. Scuba 04:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
@Scu ba Are you able to point me to the policy or guideline that says we need citations for a bibliography? Vladimir.copic (talk) 05:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
WP:CS Scuba 05:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
@Scu ba Can you point to the specific text you are referring to? I had a conversation about this here a few months ago and I don't think there is any consensus on it. This seems to be a fairly robust bibliography although there could be ISBN and publisher information - but this would be a higher standard than the Ernest Hemmingway FA. Vladimir.copic (talk) 05:23, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Isn't a bibliography its own citation, in that it makes reference to the respective primary sources, which can be verified in any online library catalog? Sandstein 13:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
then cite the online library catalog. Scuba 16:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
We don't do that for any other kind of bibliography? I really don't understand this strange quirk of RD that is so divorced from the practice in the article space, requiring something that we do not even expect of FAs. See: William Gibson, James Joyce, Mary Shelley Vladimir.copic (talk) 04:02, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

October 4

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Christopher Ciccone

Article: Christopher Ciccone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter, Entertainment Weekly
Credits:
Article updated
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American artist, interior decorator and designer. 240F:7A:6253:1:EDA2:6B32:7BE5:1E7C (talk) 01:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good, albeit heavily supported by a single source. Scuba 03:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Michel Blanc

Article: Michel Blanc (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde, The Guardian, BFMTV
Credits:

Article updated
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Notable French actor. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 23:27, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose uncited filmography Scuba 03:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose unsourced filmography and on stage works. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Support Remove whatever is unsourced if necessary but give him an RD, he's a household name in France and won a male acting award at CannesVaroon2542 (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Greg Landry

Article: Greg Landry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NFL.com, NBC Sports, ABC News, AP News
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Detroit Lions quarterback and Chicago Bears assistant coach. 240F:7A:6253:1:9C21:B9C3:98B5:A380 (talk) 12:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is orange tagged. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose article is in bad need of citations. Scuba 21:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Billy Shaw

Article: Billy Shaw (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NFL.com, ESPN, AP News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Hall of Fame Buffalo Bills guard. 240F:7A:6253:1:2D9A:96F4:D7E9:E994 (talk) 04:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Wait college section needs some work as it mainly consists of quotes, there is one cn tag and there is basically no indormation about his life between 1969 till 1999 and then from 1999 till his death. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 14:05, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Support article looks good from a glance, no orange tags, no CNs that I could see. Scuba 16:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Multiple citation tags outstanding.—Bagumba (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing Removal: Sudanese civil war (2023–present)

Article: Sudanese civil war (2023–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: Even if it's still ongoing, it dosen't receive as much coverage that it use to have. That article is also less updated then what it was. --Roncanada (talk) 22:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose still a major conflict and receiving news updates This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Every time we do this it reescalates within like 2 months. It's an on and off war, and its brutally horrific. It should be ongoing. Just because the West wont cover it doesn't mean that we shouldnt. Lukt64 (talk) 23:51, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    To play Devil's Advocate, notability in ITN is judged by amount of English-language reliable sources covering an event. If it's not being covered then that lessens notability, irrespective of how significant the story actually is. Though I do think we should keep this item up. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose there was just a major offensive in Khartoum like a few weeks ago. Scuba 00:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as one of the main editors of the page. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is also getting less coverage than it used to. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:55, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • oppose per previous arguments Abo Yemen 12:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Still being updated frequently by western sources. River10000 (talk) 16:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support The list of ongoing armed conflicts lists six major wars, 15 wars and many lesser conflicts. By listing just a few of these in ITN's Ongoing, we give the impression that that's all there is. That's misleading and so it would be better to link to the list. That would provide a continuous gateway to all the numerous conflicts such as the Gang war in Haiti which is discussed below. Cherry-picking particular wars and incidents is not adequate as it thereby ignores all the others. And we don't have space to list everything. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:07, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    You opposed the nomination related to the Haitian gang war though? We have plenty of space, the main obstacle is regular updates and article quality. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Just 3 days ago there was an article in The Guardian about the El Fasher offensive, 2 weeks ago CNN article about the capital city battles, and Al Jazeera article about the resulting refugee crisis. Quite clearly ongoing and widely reported on, even given the difficulties reporting on this part of the world. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:15, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support The ongoing line is meant for stories that are making headlines on a near daily basis, not simply because the event is ongoing. The Ukraine and the Israeli fronts clearly get those. While there are occasional stories from the Sudan civil war, its just too small scale in terms of coverage to be appropriate to maintain in the ongoing line. Masem (t) 12:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support only 50 edits since August, and nothing substantive. Stephen 13:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Due to various reasons, this particular conflict is not making that much news. It has only limited number of edits in the last two months when ongoing articles are expected to be updated nearly every day. I don't think timeline article is good enough to be posted on the main page as it seems to have turned into a news ticker. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 14:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I see well over 30 articles on the subject of the war in the last 24-48 hours (Searching for Sudan and Soudan...) Yesterday, AfricaNews wrote: "Fighting is expected to intensify as the rainy season draws to a close." (source) For some reason, neither the 29 Sept 2024 NYT article (§) on the UAE's "borrowing" of the Red Crescent symbol, nor the 2 October BBC article mentioning that NYT article have made it to the entry yet... -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 14:52, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    Even if there are dozens of news stories of late about it, the lack of significant updates on a near-daily basis to our article itself means it's failing the quality aspect that would be expected for ongoing, and should be removed. But even with the bulk of those stories, the ones I see all fall into more routine coverage that doesn't describe any significant events that are part of it. Masem (t) 15:40, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Yes, the pace of editing has slowed a bit. But the article is still getting meaningful updates and sadly the war is continuing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • support per stephen. it is for events with regular updates, clearly it is lacking.Sportsnut24 (talk) 00:36, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose: I disagree that an ongoing item needs to require regular updates, but then, as others have noted above, there certainly are things going on in this conflict, particularly if we look more widely than the front pages of western media. The war is important and the war is ongoing: therefore, it is a good candidate for an ongoing item. UndercoverClassicist T·C 09:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. The Kip (contribs) 04:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. The way I see it, the Timeline article is not written well enough to be at ITN as things currently stand. Too many single sentence updates that are simply "side a did x" or "side b claims y". Timeline or not, the article is still subject to the test of "substantial updates", which I think are lacking here. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Bosnia and Herzegovina floods

Article: 2024 Bosnia and Herzegovina floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least fifteen people die in floods and landslides in Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, Al-Jazeera, N1Info, Associated Press
Credits:

Article sources count 14 dead in Jablanica and 1 in Fojnica. At least one place was apparently completely buried by debris (Donja Jablanica), so likely many more. The main road between Sarajevo and the Adriatic Sea is closed. Elections are also due this weekend. Daß Wölf 14:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, oppose on quality as the article isn't there yet. 15 confirmed less than 24 hours after the event happened is awfully high, and a village with its own article buried is what I'd considered newsworthy. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Any suggestions on what to improve? There's more info in the sources I used in the article, but I tried to stick with what's almost surely not going to be refuted. The catastrophe entered the news cycle only several hours earlier today. The people who found the dead in Jablanica are with the mountain rescue service, which probably started at sunrise.
There should be more info by tomorrow, but I don't believe any of this is going to be struck out. Jablanica might or might not turn out to be the centre of the catastrophe. I'll add the government info from the N1 article; I only relied on BiH and Croatian sources up till now. Daß Wölf 14:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Some suggestions I have for improving the article's quality are to split it into sections and add an infobox. I suggest the article have at least sections for the lede, background, the flooding itself, the aftermath, reactions, and a see also section to similar disasters. As for the infobox, I suggest Template:Infobox flood. If you find any images, either free-to-use or fair use (mutually exclusive), use that as the image parameter. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
@GeorgeMemulous: Thanks, I've added an infobox. I'll organise it into sections if I find more time later today (but naturally, anybody is welcome). No objections beside the layout? Daß Wölf 15:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Beyond that, I'd say the article length is the other main concern, but I assume once it's split into the aforementioned sections that won't be much of a concern. Everything appears to be sourced. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait/Weak Oppose For now, still unclear on total casualties or economic impact. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose article needs some work. Scuba 17:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • The page has been updated and given a typical section layout. Daß Wölf 13:13, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Quality seems fine, everything's cited, high national impact event. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article is of good enough quality and I don't think floods of this level are common in this country. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 14:13, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
@Kcmastrpc: Economic impact will be pretty high. Due to the enormous damage of the railway, the Federal Railways will suffer a daily loss of circa KM 280,000 (~€143,000) for at least a few months according to this source. The fact that part of the main road, M-17, between the capital Sarajevo and Mostar has suffered major damage as well (the two cities garnering a major amount of economic cash flow), will most definitely add to the financial loss. These are the most damaging floods since the ones in 2014 and this is an enormous deal as it was completely unexpected. Bakir123 (talk) 14:31, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 19:05, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

October 3

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime


RD: Pierre Christin

Article: Pierre Christin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Figaro, El Pais
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

French comic author known per Valérian. Article not ready yet. Alexcalamaro (talk) 07:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Wait three cn tags needs to be resolved. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • We do not post stubs. Schwede66 17:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Pont-Sondé attack

Article: 2024 Pont-Sondé attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: An attack on the Haitian town of Pont-Sondé by a gang leaves at least 70 people dead and another 50 injured. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, AP
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Breaking news around the world now, death and injury toll still only estimated at the moment. Only just started the article so help with expanding most welcome: need background, attack, response and aftermath sections ideally. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose on quality Article is a stub and needs major expansion. Would support on significance due to the high number of deaths and injuries. Weak support Article's not as long as I'd like it to be for something of this magnitude, but it's good enough for posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose currently Article is one paragraph, needs major expansion and if that happens I’ll change my vote to support. 27.96.223.193 (talk) 08:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Support I’d like to change my vote to support thanks. 27.96.223.193 (talk) 12:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Seems to be a routine incident for Haiti and so WP:NEWSEVENT applies. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:41, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose article is a stub. Scuba 14:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Support Issues with the article have been fixed, no longer a stub and well cited. Quick glance at media coverage and the event looks significant enough. Also it's been a while since ITN updated the situation in Haiti. Scuba 00:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Stub, and this does “[seem] to be a routine incident”. 64.114 etc 15:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Andrew, Scuba and 64. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:181F:B893:ADD2:6921 (talk)
  • Also oppose per 2604. 2605:8D80:401:9041:BC0A:88E5:52B2:275 (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose article is a stub and is only around 150 words long, far too short for a blurb. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Support per the discussion. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 09:40, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Update No longer a stub, thank you to those who expanded the article. As to those who say this is "routine" (if a town-wide gang attack can ever be that); the gang warfare centers around Port-au-Prince and Cap Haitien not remote smaller towns, this is definitely outside the norm. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Sardonic comment: sorry, come back if a white person dies, otherwise not hittin' WP:MINIMUMDEATHS here. (Advice for those outside the Global North "wanting" to "make it onto" ITN: [11]) Hmm, Helene got deaths-blurbed when its tally hit the century mark—though to be fair it already was blurbed as a Major Storm. I wonder where the line is for that, maybe Category 3, the NHC's for "major hurricane" vs just "hurricane"? "Fun" thought exercise how many people would a Cat 2 storm have to kill in Haiti, to get on ITN, if it didn't affect anywhere else? (Stick a pin in this comment, for next weekish when then-likely-Trop Storm Kirk warp-5s over to W Europe, and how ITN reacts towards that, to contrast.) --Slowking Man (talk) 21:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait/Lean Support Article still need a bit more work, but given the causalities and based on the international reaction I'm leaning towards support. Kcmastrpc (talk) 19:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality per above - while not a stub, article is still far too short. Support on notability - even with the ongoing crisis, a gang shooting that kills upwards of 70 people is anything but "routine." The Kip (contribs) 19:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Event in the news, endorse (conditional on quality as usual). Bitter regretful observation: people might want to keep eye on (T·E·H·L·RHaitian Civil War for if/when it gets turned to an article. --Slowking Man (talk) 21:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, I would have to agree with Slowking Man's and note the blasé attitudes towards this event by some individuals reflecting trends that have been documented among media portrayals of certain communities. Clearly a significant event. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:06, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    Highlighting this particular incident still wouldn't give the big picture. The list of ongoing armed conflicts indicates that this is just a drop in the ocean. The gang wars in Mexico generate more deaths than the gangs in Haiti and then there are other major wars too. If you want to right great wrongs, then you have your work cut out for you. Our job as an encyclopedia is to summarise all this, not to dwell on the detail. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:40, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    The larger issue is that WP is not a newspaper, and not every single event needs an article or a separate article. This specific event looks like part of the ongoing violence in Haiti and while it was noted in the day-to-day media, likely will not have any substantive difference from all the other violence in Haiti that necessitates a separate article, much less being ITN. Masem (t) 13:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    I think here is a larger point some of us are kind of working towards: Okay, now, take a view like those expressed in the replies preceding mine, and apply to other subjects and kinds of events. Do we really need to mention every cyclone that kills a bunch of people and give it its own article? What about floods in Europe or China or India or insert place here? Heat waves? Storms happen, people die, big deal, people die all the time. Put it in some kinda "storms in $YEAR" article. ("Don't let $PERSON's death get you down. People die all the time. Why, you could wake up dead tomorrow. ...Well. goodnight!") Philosophical/rhetorical query: What is it that makes "big storms and their effects" more intrinsically ITN-worthy vs "humans directly killing other humans in $PLACE"?
    Fun exercise: reflect on this given that us cranking up our planet's temperature is inevitably going to lead to much more of this stuff. What's gonna be the response when three/four-digit death tolls from cyclones become a routine annual event? (Excerpts from Future Wikipedia: "The 2039 tropical storm death season begins in the Northern Hemisphere. Wikipedia reminds those located below 40 degrees north to review their disaster and evacuation planning, stay informed, and promptly follow instructions from relevant authorities.") Not to mention all the inevitable mass migration/conflict/wars likely to result. (More excerpts: "Ongoing events: Current sub-temperate territorial conflicts") Ooh, nice informative & relevant map: pop. density/latitude. --Slowking Man (talk) 18:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC) (Phrase of the day: "shifting baselines" --Slowking Man (talk) 18:04, 5 October 2024 (UTC))
    Replying to own comment to note that "floods in part of Europe" has been apparently just posted to ITN. (Bonus points: from a non-English-as-first-lang part!) Compare-and-contrast current death toll. More data points for calibration of WP:MINIMUMDEATHS? ("Storms and floods happen, people die...") --Slowking Man (talk) 19:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support The flood stub and this stub are about the same size (by any name). I didn't think the flood one would make it. Now that it has and with this event rarer and deadlier, holding it down would definitely appear to suggest what it looks like about our standards and practices. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:22, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
    InedibleHulk, you would know (or at least should know) that we do not post stubs. The 2024 Bosnia and Herzegovina floods article wasn't a stub (any longer) when I posted it. Neither is this article a stub any longer. Whilst those assessments are not an exact science, I note that they no longer have stub tags, and on the talk pages, they are both rated start class; I agree with those ratings. Hence, the basic premise from which you start your argument (if we post the other stub, we might as well post this stub, too) is wrong.
    Blurbs get posted when there is at least rough consensus to do so. To my mind, this article is good enough now. It cannot get posted, though, because that's not what the consensus says. There are many comments above that the topic is notable but the article (at the time of voting) was a stub. That's now changed, but editors need to say so. Schwede66 03:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    I thought adding "(by any name)" would be enough (sorry). Whatever we call this short article or that brief overview, you posted the latter after two supports. Given the expansion and de facto "Wait !votes", I now count more than two supportive of publicizing this attack (including your own) and know some admins who'd rightly discount a few of those opposes as poor arguments; if any of them are watching, I suggest posting sooner than later. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Needs attention If those who opposed on quality can please have a look again if the current quality is enough now to change your votes given the article has been majorly expanded. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    @Abcmaxx: Am I to understand your prior Update and Needs attention emboldenings as support in itself? If so, I think you'll need to embolden the word "Support" for it to technically count toward "consensus". At least that's what I've gathered from editors need to say so. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    I'm the nominator though. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Good point, my bad; @PrinceofPunjab: You're not, are you? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    @Scu ba: I missed your name in the SEAOFNUMBERS; would you care to start again? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:42, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    @InedibleHulk: Thanks! Changed my vote. Scuba 00:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    @TDKR Chicago 101: I have no idea how I missed you starting first, but that's no excuse; have things changed? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support. Still quite short, but this attack seems pretty noteworthy, even in the context of the larger gang war (which I still believe has been underrepresented here at ITN), so I think the article state is good enough. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: is consensus strong enough now for posting? Abcmaxx (talk) 09:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article is no longer a stub at 2264 characters. It appears well-cited. Ready to post. Thriley (talk) 17:01, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 19:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Typhoon Krathon

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Article: Typhoon Krathon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Typhoon Krathon leaves at least 18 people dead in the Philippines and Taiwan. (Post)
News source(s): Barrons, Inquirer, France 24, AP News
Credits:

The storm death toll has risen to 18, and the articles are in good shape. HurricaneEdgar 19:49, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment Looking at the scope of deaths, inuries and damages, this doesn't seem like as significant storm compared to other major typhoons. -Masem (t) 19:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support article is in good shape, and the Typhoon has made landfall and caused significant casualties which checks both boxes for ITN inclusion in my book Scuba 20:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WP:NEWSEVENT. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: article looks good, and the event is notable. I don't see that NEWSEVENT is an issue here: major storms which cause significant loss of life generally meet GNG, and that guideline has Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources: that seems to be met here. UndercoverClassicist T·C 21:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: Very notable disaster. Though death toll not significant, the destruction is. High Admiral JMT (talk) 23:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose, not significant, low casualties, low damage, spent most of it's time over the sea. Stephen 04:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Stephen. The Kip (contribs) 19:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose has Low damages and casualties. TyphoonAmpil [citation needed] 04:26, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: This typhoon has broken the observation record in Taiwan according to the local news.[12][13][14]--Sinsyuan✍️🌏🚀 06:07, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support This has a death toll that’s similar the death toll of the floods in Bosnia, so it seems notable enough for a blurb. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 12:22, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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Articles: British Indian Ocean Territory (talk · history · tag) and Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United Kingdom agrees to cede sovereignty of the British Indian Ocean Territory to Mauritius (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United Kingdom agrees to cede sovereignty of the British Indian Ocean Territory to Mauritius
Alternative blurb II: ​ The United Kingdom agrees to cede sovereignty of the British Indian Ocean Territory to Mauritius in exchange for the territory being leased back to the UK for the initial period of 99 years.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In conformity with international law, the United Kingdom completes the decolonisation of Mauritius through a bilateral treaty between both countries
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating

CMD (talk) 10:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Wait for Significance and Oppose on Quality "The deal is still subject to finalisation of a treaty but both sides have vowed to complete this as quickly as possible." Now, I know times move faster than they did when some natives treated and vowed with the Crown. But still, even if it doesn't take centuries this time, it could be months or years before anything comes of this. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    Agree the transfer itself would be newsworthy, but I nominated feeling the reaching of an agreement was significant in its own right. It follows about a decade of concerted diplomatic efforts by Mauritius. The ceding of territory is a rare enough event. The last was probably the 2016 agreement for Egypt to transfer two islands to Saudi Arabia? CMD (talk) 11:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah, I hear you. As you say, though, this next step follows about a decade. The ceding itself will happen if it happens, and that's final (to me). InedibleHulk (talk) 11:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Major power is ceding a large part of its territory to another country, very big news. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:02, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: This is quite a surprising move from Britain after blocking the transfer of sovereignty for so long, however there are some details that need clarification such as when will the transfer come into effect. Tofusaurus (talk) 11:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait or at least alter "agrees" to "offers". This will only happen if Mauritius agrees to a treaty that allows the status quo indefinitely, more or less, on Diego Garcia. That may be objectionable to Mauritius, and they may refuse to sign off.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    For what it's worth this was reportedly a joint statement also issued by the Mauritian PM, they're presumably as on-board as the UK. CMD (talk) 14:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    (Based on the report) this wasn't a unilateral offer by the UK. It's the high level agreement after negotiation with the agreement of all parties (UK, Mauritius & USA). The 99 years lease would had been agreed to as a term by Mauritius. -- KTC (talk) 17:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait and Support: Definitely major. However, plans have not yet been finalized. High Admiral JMT (talk) 12:51, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • The updates to the article were reverted; the only remaining relevant change is the removal of a statement that negotiations were halted in December 2023. We can't possibly post this until that's resolved. —Cryptic 13:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    There's a piece in the lead now (as of 13:45); not sure if that counts. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support This is a textbook example of a notable story of high encyclopaedic value.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:37, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on significance This is a major change to the map. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support a major international news and is blurbworthy and should be posted when articles are updated. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 14:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support once fully cited: not sure we need to wait for it to actually happen; the decision is noteworthy enough. UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now due to quality issues with the article and lack of significant updates to it, but I do Support on significance once those are resolved mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support once citation issues are cleared up Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support resolution of a long-standing diplomatic issue, proposing ALT blurb to link to the Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute. Ornithoptera (talk) 17:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • I’d rather wait until the treaty is finalized. Since there seems to be a lot of support for posting this, I’d prefer the alt blurb if this is posted. I’d say that highlighting the Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute would be the most important aspect of a blurb. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 18:02, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Pretty historic momement for the people of those islands and it's also a notable international news story in general. GWA88 (talk) 18:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ­­­– I would say "to return sovereignty ..." STSC (talk) 18:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    Mauritius was never sovereign when they administered Chagos Scuba 19:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    Would "transfer sovereignty" be a more neutral wording? Ornithoptera (talk) 20:37, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    I'm fine with "ceding sovereignty" because that's what most publications are saying. Scuba 19:17, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support goodbye British Indian Ocean Territory, one of the few remaining English colonies. Scuba 19:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
    There are no English colonies remaining, England as an independent polity was dissolved in 1707. The Indian Ocean Territory is also classified as a territory rather than a colony (the legal status of 'colony' was dissolved in 1982). PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Awesome, saying it "totally isn't a colony" doesn't magically make it stop being a colony. Also the Scottish Welsh and Irish weren't the ones making the colonies, the English where. Scuba 19:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Y Wladfa and Darien scheme might make for interesting reading; and plenty of Scots (especially) were involved in British colonial projects after the union. None of which is to deny the poor treatment of the Scots, Irish, and Welsh by the English within the Union - but do get your facts right. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
    Yup you're so right, the sole Scottish colony (that failed), and an group of welsh immigrants are totally the same as to what the English did around the world. Scuba 16:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    This isn't an accurate assessment of British colonial history. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:27, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on significance but wait until the orange tag on the target article is fixed. Ollieisanerd (talkcontribs) 20:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Very significant news, but best to wait until all plans are finalised per above. Editor 5426387 (talk) 23:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support noting the ceding of a remnant of the Old Empire. SerialNumber54129 23:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Tentative support but Wait until it is fully agreed upon and completed. --Masem (t) 00:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • oppose this is pure fluff, nothing changes. Formal sovereignty replaced with a 99-year-long lease. Does anyone really expect we'd still have nation states with borders like the uk, the mauritus or indeed the US (that is the actual primary user of that military base which is at the source of whole dispute) come 2123? lol. Kasperquickly (talk) 06:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
The 99-year lease applies to the base on Diego Garcia; the transfer of sovereignty applies to the entire territory, and Mauritius has indicated that they'd support resettling Chagossians on the other islands of the archipelago. And the rest of your comment convinces me that you are not bringing a serious understanding of international relations to bear here. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on significance as this is a pretty big moment in decolonisation of the UK's remaining territories. Article still needs work though. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait and support once the treaty is fully finalized. Major significance, new change in the map. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on significance but wait both for better article quality, or potentially even an article on the transfer itself. –DMartin 15:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • support it already mauritius sovereignty now. obviously administrative change will not happen so quick, but legally done.Sportsnut24 (talk) 15:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment ALT2 is incorrect, and implies that the UK retains control of the entirety of the Archipelago rather than the lease on Diego Garcia. Ornithoptera (talk) 18:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Significant moment geopolitically. Lean waiting until the treaty is formalized, however. The Kip (contribs) 20:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Regarding quality issues raised above, the History section has been changed significantly, and I believe the yellow tag is no longer applicable. CMD (talk) 06:27, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment - I don't agree to the wording "to cede sovereignty" in the blurbs. It implies that the UK was the rightful owner and they were forced to do so. Many sources including BBC use the words "hand over". STSC (talk) 07:40, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    These seem functionally synonymous. "cede" means to give up, it doesn't imply legitimacy either way. At any rate, the UK was effectively forced to turn over the territory, so that implication if read is accurate. CMD (talk) 09:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Wikipedia has its own neutrality standard; IMO, "hand over" does sound more neutral than "cede". STSC (talk) 04:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    Not sure how any neutrality standard is affected by this. CMD (talk) 05:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
    I disagree, you don't have to be forced to cede something. Scuba 16:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
    Maybe unwillingly. STSC (talk) 04:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait as per WP:TOOSOON. The treaty hasn't been signed or ratified yet. The UK could still pull out and retain the BIOT. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:27, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. A major country giving part of its territory to another country is highly significant and notable. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 06:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait/Oppose. Noteworthy enough, but I agree with the contingent here in belief that the best course of action would be to wait for official ratification of the agreement, or, even better, the actual date of the hand-over to post. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on significance Would support posting twice, once now and once when the handover is official. Territorial cessions like this are quite rare are the exact kind of news that we ought to feature at ITN. NorthernFalcon (talk) 19:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support – Major development in decolonization and an end to a decades-long territorial dispute. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 22:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • I note that both target articles are orange-tagged. The British Indian Ocean Territory seems like the easier one to untag. Would somebody like to have a go? Schwede66 08:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Mauritian here. Why not use the terminology used by the courts and the foreign offices of both countries and by insisting on why it is considered a watershed moment in international rule of law?. "In conformity with international law, the United Kingdom completes the decolonisation of Mauritius through a bilateral treaty between both nations"Varoon2542 (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Very significant geopolitical moment; land cessations of this kind are increasingly uncommon in the 21st century. This is notable now, and it may not be in the news anymore when the symbolic 'finalization' occurs later on. FlipandFlopped 21:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

October 2

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Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Sports


RD: Christopher Charles Benninger

Article: Christopher Charles Benninger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American-born Indian architect. 240F:7A:6253:1:E8D8:9FD9:8A77:E4D6 (talk) 15:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there is an orange COI and NPOV tag. The early life section have no information about the subject's early life. Sourcing is not great as some of the sources are dead, primary or have no information about the subject. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 17:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Complete brain mapping of fruit fly

Article: Brain mapping (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Scientists complete a full brain map of the common fruit fly. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, The Guardian, Nature (peer reviewed paper)
Credits:

Article updated

Best likely article to include this but currently lacks this update. Masem (t) 17:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

*Strong oppose on quality - article hasn't been updated at all since May 2024. A timeline article, or an article about this specific brainmap would be best here, but to my knowledge none exists. Not sure as to notability, but leaning weak support. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 18:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC) Quality issues are more or less resolved, overall support. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 11:51, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

I plan to do the update if it is not done in the next 12 to 24 hr. On mobile so can't do an effective job of it until on real keyboard. Masem (t) 18:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Expansion is done. I think there are free use images based on the papers, but have to try to figure out best source to work from . --Masem (t) 05:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose belongs in a DYK not an ITN. Scuba 20:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
It is not eligible for DYK, it is not at GA within the past 7 days, nor expanded 5x, or new enough. Ornithoptera (talk) 20:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's in the news and seems quite significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support on notability, oppose on quality. Noting that the main article is not eligible for DYK, although the possibility of creating a new standalone article (either for ITN or DYK) could be considered. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose – Fascinating subject, but I think our article doesn't quite represent it in a way that's worth featuring. I appreciate the singular new paragraph, but it doesn't really feel like enough. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 16:07, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: In the news and interesting. C F A 💬 22:16, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose it might generate some modest headlines, but the scientific value is rather thin. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:C01A:1F41:5B33:E7AB (talk) 07:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Target article does not effectively demonstrate the significance of this discovery. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

RD: Susie Berning

Article: Susie Berning (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USGA.org, ESPN, AP News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American Hall of Fame professional golfer. 240F:7A:6253:1:F8A2:3A7B:85FC:16AA (talk) 02:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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