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August 2, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita → Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita, 2023 – As per the earlier request, now that the bill is passed and the Act is live. - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bharatiya_Nyaya_Sanhita,_2023&oldid=1189635548 Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 10:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 16:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luciano (singer) → Luciano (Jamaican singer) – Dab from Luciano (Brazilian singer). Sometimes we count topics without standalone articles less for disambiguation purposes, but I think one half of a musical duo is a big enough deal to not be worth doing so. And there's also Luciano (rapper), whose article claims only in the infobox he's a singer, to confuse matters further. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Awda School massacre → July Abasan al-Kabira airstrike – The current descriptive title is inaccurate, and violates WP:NCENPOV. The airstrike took place outside the school, and few sources refer to it as a massacre. The proposed descriptive title is more compliant with both WP:CRITERIA and WP:NPOV BilledMammal (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Venezuelan protests → 2024 Venezuelan unrest – "Not only there are peaceful demonstrations, but civil unrest and violence in between." SpringField23402 (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC) -- Viva Nicolás (talk) 13:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Salem station → Salem station, Massachusetts – This is not the primary topic for Salem station, since Salem Junction railway station in India is. Salem Junction is usually simply referred to as Salem station as Salem Town and Salem Market stations are much smaller and not nearly as used. For instance, in this The Hindu article talking about the redevelopment works it says Salem railway station, and this Hindustan Times article about a train robbery. To support the claim Salem Junction in India is the primary topic, if we look at the pageview stats, Salem Junction, TN gets about 4-10x the page views than Salem station, MA regularly and has about 25x the passenger usage. In terms of historical significance, both are pretty old, however the fact that Salem Junction is a much bigger and busier station than Salem station, MA and has many more page views makes me think it should be the primary topic, or at the very least Salem, MA should not be the primary topic. Therefore I think WP:PT1. Propose redirecting Salem station to Salem Junction railway station. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? -
uselesscontributions} 09:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – M40 gun motor carriage → M40_gun_motor_carriage – Move from M40 Gun Motor Carriage to M40 gun motor carriage. A batch of them, all of the basic form 'Gun Motor Carriage'. Apologies if I've missed any of them. This is a large batch that have already been moved, without discussion. However this move has been opposed by multiple editors and is likely to be reverted. To avoid edit-warring, there should be a real move discussion for them. An attempt to discuss this at the related move discussion Talk:All-purpose_Lightweight_Individual_Carrying_Equipment#Requested_move_24_July_2024 was closed down and taken to ANI for 'disruption'. The term 'Gun Motor Carriage' is the invention of the US Army around World War II. It did not exist beforehand, it has no independent existence. It is capitalised, as is the wont of armies everywhere. There is no such thing as a "gun motor carriage". That's an adjectival, descriptive phrase that no-one uses. But "Gun Motor Carriage" is the US Army's chosen term for self-propelled artillery (at varying times). It should be capitalised. It should always be capitalised. It has no meaning, no robust sourcing otherwise when not capitalised. No other (AFAIK) armies have used this term, other than by inheritance, and it has no meaning in the non proper name form anywhere else. GMC is easily sourced: it's used throughout Chamberlain & Ellis, Chamberlain, Peter; Ellis, Chris (1981). British And American Tanks Of World War II. ISBN 0-668-04304-0. which is WP's generally agreed standard listing textbook of US AFVs of WWII. It's used by Ogorkiewicz and you might note that he carefully capitalises APC in the US sense but not for other nations, likewise Infantry Tank when applied only to the early WWII British doctrine. It's used in Jane's recognition handbooks. But because Google can also trawl up some occurrences of it uncapitalised, these have been discarded. The uncapitalised form is used literally as syntax in many places, and Google easily finds them. But as semantics this still only ever refer to the Gun Motor Carriage as designated by the US Army. There are no gun motor carriages that are not Gun Motor Carriages, and are more appropriately labelled in this form. That is a difference to the term Armoured Personnel Carrier and others, where there is a valid lowercase form as a generic term (even though the capitalised form also exists). The evidence [sic] supporting this page move is here, [1], a list of books that use 'Gun Motor Carriage' (no, I don't understand how that works) and a Google ngram. What this comes down to is WP:MOS vs. WP:RS. Our style guide prefers lower case. The sources support capitalisation. If Wikipedia were to develop an armoured division, it might equip itself with gun motor carriages. But it was the US Army that did so instead, and they went with Gun Motor Carriage. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Orders of magnitude (magnetic field) → Orders of magnitude (magnetic flux density) – I would move the page myself, but there is currently a redirect. The page does not compare “magnetic fields” – e.g., Earth's magnetic field is much stronger than that of a neodymium magnet – but compares magnetic flux densities, measured in tesla, usually right above the magnet's surface. After the page has been moved the newly created redirect – "Orders of magnitude (magnetic field)" – can be edited to point to Orders of magnitude (magnetic moment) – which is closer to the measure of a magnetic field. Grufo (talk) 05:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ted Wilson (1943–2013) → Ted Wilson (ice skating) – More typical disambiguation format. — BarrelProof (talk) 08:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 03:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Doctor (Doctor Who) → The Doctor – The definite article 'the' in the title designates this topic as the primary one for 'The Doctor' (but only with the definite article). This is consistent with titles such as The Guardian, The Signpost, The Postal Service, The Edge, The 1975, and The Undertaker. A Google search for "The Doctor" returns results related to Doctor Who, as does a Google image search. Similarly, a Google News search returns Doctor Who-related coverage. While a search for "The Doctor" on JSTOR for produces variable results, a search for "The Guardian" on JSTOR wouldn't establish the newspaper as the primary topic alone. A Google Ngram analysis reveals that the term 'The Doctor' saw an increase in usage in 2005, coinciding with the show's revival. Worldwide Google Trends indicate that "The Doctor" is predominantly used in reference to searches about Doctor Who, per the 'related topics' and 'related searches'; with a notable peak in November 2013, coinciding with the show's 50th anniversary special. This 'The Doctor' (with the definite article) has more coverage from reliable sources than others (with the definite article) listed on the disambiguation page. Amendment: Pageview Analysis (with a date range of 'All time') comparing all of the pages titled 'The Doctor' show that this topic has more views by a clear margin. It is limited to 10 pages, so I've split it into two: first second. On Wikipedia this topic is the most sought after 'The Doctor' (with the definite article) on the entire site. Note: When researching, "The Doctor" should be enclosed in quotation marks as some databases often exclude definite articles. Svampesky (talk) 12:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC), amended 03:07, 02 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abdul Aleem Khan (Hyderabad politician) → Abdul Aleem Khanzada – I created the page based on initial election results reporting which carried his name wrong, multitude of sources now have surfaced which mention his name as Abdul Aleem Khanzada, such as [2], [3], [4], there are more, but I am listing only three for brevity. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gargoyle → Gargoyle (architecture) – There's no obvious primary topic here between the architectural element, and the legendary and/or fictional monster of living stone. While the architectural element gets more views (approx. 700 daily vs. 200 daily), according to Wikinav, 20% of the people coming to this page click through to the monster one instead, indicating coming here was potentially accidental, making the difference a fair bit less (560 vs. 200 when you subtract from one). This is not far apart enough to indicate any primary topic existing at all. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frozen → Frozen (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 00:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
August 1, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Trois-Rivières Aigles → Trois-Rivières Aigles (1971–1977) – Thinking on it, long-term significance leans towards the current team being the primary topic as it's been around longer and has had much more coverage than the defunct affiliated minor league team that only played for seven years some decades ago. The current team has already lasted nearly twice as long as the old team, and shows no signs of going away anytime soon, so in my mind it's proven itself to be the most likely intended subject for someone looking up the team name. oknazevad (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of recipients of the Order of the Sword (2023–present) → List of recipients of the Order of the Sword – Until there are some other lists on Wikipedia that cover other periods of time, the identification of a time period is unnecessary disambiguation. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – René Binet (neo-Fascist) → René Binet – Two contenders have the same name; a minor translator and an architect who does no have an English article yet. The name is also a bit too specific and slightly besides the point (was apparently first a communist etc.). Biohistorian15 (talk) 19:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- René Binet → René Binet (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – 2021–2023 inflation surge → 2021–2023 inflation wave – Surge suggests rising inflation, but inflation started declining in 2022 though was still significant in 2023, just not increasing. Superb Owl (talk) 19:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maurice Clenock → Morys Clynnog – Ngrams show that this has been the predominant form of his name in English-language sources since the 1950s. Ham II (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – David Long Jr. → David Long Jr. (linebacker) – To distinguish him from David Long Jr. (defensive back). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Saturday Night Live incidents → Saturday Night Live controversies and incidents – Been improving this one lately (I initially split off/created the page in 2015) and feel that this new title would be better these days. Not really a list article anymore although it does contain lists. I have expanded several sections with much prose and content/sourcing to be more encyclopaedic, and several sections were good already. I will continue improving but feel the new name would be better. Somewhat similar titles to the new proposal include BBC controversies and Controversial Reddit communities. StewdioMACK (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Deseo Lo Mejor → Te deseo lo mejor – Although the title with all caps is official on Disney+, in the original language (Spanish) the title is probably correct only with the first capital letter. Not sure what to choose. Patrik L. (talk) 12:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Syn and anti addition → Syn and anti addition and elimination – Inclusion of syn and anti elimination reactions. Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ABC News (United States) → ABC News –
This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 4 July 2024. The result of the move review was no consensus, relisted.
* ABC News → ABC News (United States) * ABC News (disambiguation) → ABC News – Australia's ABC News is its national broadcaster and is its most widely watched newscast. The Australian broadcaster reaches 8 digit levels of people on a weekly basis, while the U.S. company averages around 7 million on nightly newscasts. And, in absolute terms, Australia's ABC is quite a major news organization. I don't think the U.S. subsidiary of Disney is more of a WP:PTOPIC here, so I propose moving this to the proposed target and moving ABC News (disambiguation) to take over this page's title. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JuniperChill (talk) 20:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —S Marshall T/C 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)I hereby relist this RM, which was originally listed on 18 June 2024. As there wasn't a consensus to overturn BilledMammal's previous close at the move review, I don't think it's right to move the page back to ABC News until this discussion reaches consensus. Leave it here until the RM has played out in full, please. —S Marshall T/C 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC) - ABC News → ABC News (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Bengawan Solo → Bengawan Solo (disambiguation) – Bengawan Solo should redirect to the article about the longest river on world's most populous island per "long-term significance" (WP:PTOPIC). Bengawan Solo (song) is the other notable topic (that is named after the river). The song draws more traffic: [[5]] but the difference isn't so vast that it trumps the "long-term significance" factor. Google Search seems to prefer Bengawan Solo (company) and the song but Google Books search gives more results for the river. Mika1h (talk) 15:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magic realism → Magical Realism – "Magical Realism" is the most common term WP:COMMONNAME applies. See discussion in this section above, #'Magical' versus 'Magic' Realism, and the article itself. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC).
- (Discuss) – Dagö → Dagö (band) – The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Dagö" seems to be the German/Swedish name of Hiiumaa, from which the band takes its name. See Google Books search for usage in English sources. After the move, Dagö should be made to redirect to Hiiumaa. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – No kid zone → No kid zone (South Korea) – Given the discussion above, at least two editors think that the article title is ambiguous enough to deserve disambiguation. I think that South Korea is clearly the primary topic (Google no kid zones and see the results) and that the hatnote that has now been placed in the article is sufficient. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of Changsha (1939) → First Battle of Changsha – I am currently trying to rename four of the pages for battles called Battle of Changsha. These four articles are: Battle of Changsha (1939), Battle of Changsha (1941), Battle of Changsha (1941-1942) and Battle of Changsha (1944). This is because these four all occurred in the Second Sino-Japanese War, so it follows naming conventions for battles like Second Battle of Alamein. Also, as there are six articles called Battle of Changsha, so the current names of these four articles are not very helpful for finding the specific battle. However, because there is already a redirect page, I can't rename this article. Enoryt nwased lamaj (talk) 07:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 08:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Interim Government of Mohammad Mokhber → Government of Mohammad Mokhber (May-August 2024) – Fits best with other government article names and is concise AlexBobCharles (talk) 07:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Václav Černý → Václav Černý (writer) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views Joeykai (talk) 07:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Carlos Zambrano → Carlos Zambrano (baseball) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views at [6] Joeykai (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nacho (disambiguation) → Nacho – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Nacho" per page views at [7] Joeykai (talk) 07:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Baek Jong-won → Paik Jong-won – This is the WP:COMMONNAME spelling and closer to what I think is his preferred spelling of "Paik Jong Won" (based on his YouTube channel, although the titles of his videos use a variety of spellings lol; probably hired translators). Common name proof: exact google news search for "Paik Jong-won" yields 381 results, and "Baek Jong-won" yields 300 results with more spurious results due to overlapping people names. I can't find evidence that the "Paik Jong Won" spelling is used much; news coverage of him tends to use "Paik Jong-won". 104.232.119.107 (talk) 06:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jack Jarvis → Jack Jarvis (racehorse trainer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views at [8] Joeykai (talk) 06:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – R Vaishali → Vaishali Rameshbabu – This page used to be at Vaishali Rameshbabu. It was moved only because her brother's page was moved, even though this page was barely part of that discussion. Also at the time, Vaishali's name on her FIDE page was "Vaishali R". But since then, she changed her FIDE name to the full "Vaishali Rameshbabu", while her brother remains at "Praggnanandhaa R". In most cases, we set the page name on Wikipedia to be what it is on the FIDE website, so we should do that here. (From media sources, there is no clear preferred choice whether to abbreviate or not. Some abbreviate, others do not.) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Venezuelan presidential crisis → Venezuelan 2019–2023 presidential crisis – there's a newer crisis, the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. fgnievinski (talk) 04:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Teenage Dream → Teenage Dream (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 02:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC) (edited 02:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC))
- (Discuss) – Paul Mullen → Paul Mullen (musician) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews at [9] Joeykai (talk) 01:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Truth About Love → The Truth About Love (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews [10] estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – L'Île-aux-Marins → Île aux Marins –
1. The definite article "L'" ("L'Île")is not used in French except for some municipalities, but not for names of the acutal islands themselves.
2. The dashes are also not standard, although they are often seen. See the French version of this article. Keizers (talk) 00:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war → United States complicity in the Israel–Hamas war – I think the page name is too long. Any other suggestion is also welcome Astropulse (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chatsworth station → Chatsworth Transportation Center – In line with other station articles which use their formal names (ex: San Bernardino Transit Center, Fullerton Transportation Center, Irvine Transportation Center) which seems to be the general precedence for naming train station articles. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
July 31, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – 2020 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2020 Oregon State House of Representatives election – Similar to 2020 Oregon State Senate election if the senate race clarifies it is a state election and not a US senate then so should this to not confuse with 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 23:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2022 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2022 Oregon State House of Representatives election – Similar to 2022 Oregon State Senate election if the senate race clarifies it is a state election and not a US Senate then so should this to not confuse with 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 23:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aegukka → National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea – After the DPRK's abandonment of unification, the title Aegukka seems to have fallen out of use at least on KCTV (first on the Hwasŏng Area completion event, and now the July 27 "victory" celebration), and Korean: 조선민주주의인민공화국 국가, lit. 'National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea' has taken its place. On the other hand, the site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPRK, as well as the current constitution, still mentions that the national anthem is titled "애국가". Another reason of my proposal is due to the current title's possible confusion with the ROK's Aegukga, where currently neither title has a modifier, which may cause confusion to readers not familiar to the two romanization systems. OosakaNoOusama (talk) 22:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wild Boys → Wild Boys (TV series) – Per WP:DABNAME like Talk:Great Escape#Requested move 2 May 2021 there is no reason to have "The" in the title of the DAB page and the TV series has 438 views but the song has 2,907, the novel has 1,025, the film has 635 and the play has 2. Wildboyz has 2,583[[11]]. Per WP:SMALLDETAILS the absence of "The" probably doesn't distingish and most Google results are for the song not the TV series. The TV series could be moved to Wild Boys (Australian TV series) or Wild Boys (2011 TV series) due to the 2003 one but that is probably not nessesarry but I'll leave it as an option for discussion to see if it is needed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Calls for the destruction of Israel → Calls for the dissolution of the State of Israel – More WP:NEUTRAL and WP:PRECISE. Change loaded word 'destruction'—which suggests physical damage or violence, as if it were about a physical object and not a political formation—to the more NEUTRAL and PRECISE 'dissolution' as in Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Because this article is about calls for the dissolution of the state, change the ambiguous 'Israel' to 'State of Israel' to avoid conflation with בני ישראל (Bənēy Yīsrāʾēl 'children of Israel/Jacob'), a biblical metonym for Jewish people. Calls for the dissolution of a state are not calls for the eradication of a people; that would be a separate topic. إيان (talk) 20:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2024 Oregon State House of Representatives election – Similar to 2024 Oregon State Senate election if the senate race clarifies it is a state election then so should this to not confuse with 2024 United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piecewise → Piecewise mathematical object – Per WP:NOUN. The adjective title is jarring. Previous discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics/Archive/2024/Mar#Piecewise. Mathematical object should include everything, addressing concerns about the concept needing to cover piecewise linear manifold and piecewise linear curve 174.92.25.207 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joint Support Group → Defence Human Intelligence Unit – An article in the Telegraph indicates that the JSG has been renamed as the DHU. 13tez (talk) 19:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meath → Meath (disambiguation) – I feel this page should become Meath (disambiguation) so Meath can be redirected to County Meath, as I’ve never seen “Meath” refer to anything but the county and most other Irish counties without eponymous county towns redirect to the county; not to mention how most other articles linked on this page are just less important articles related to the county. I realise the Kingdom of Meath page also sees traffic but there is a Kingdom of Leinster page too and yet Leinster leads to province and not historical kingdom. TwinBoo (talk) 17:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood → Robin Hood (1922 film) – Per WP:COMMONNAME, "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria listed above." and per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) "Common names – Sometimes, it is acceptable to use an alternative common name that is more concise or recognizable.". In all historical articles of the film I've read and most film databases, the film is known as "Robin Hood" not "Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood". The title alone makes it sound like a represetnation of acting in the film. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shin Hye-sun → Shin Hae-sun – With the continuing rise in popularity of actress <Shin Hae-sun>, the spelling of her English name has been up for debate for quite some time. Since her debut in School 2013, many have spelled her name as <Shin Hye-sun>; others have spelled it as <Shin Hae-sun> (a difference in Hye or Hae). In recent years, many have pointed out that her own signature and places like her agency (YNK Entertainment under IOK Company) spelled her name with Hae, yet, many sources continued to spell it as Hye since it was the most common spelling since her debut (Hye is also a common spelling amongst other Korean celebrities like Park Shin-hye and Kim Hye-yoon, adding to its credibility at the time). Here are some other reliable sources that correctly spells her name with Hae: KoBiz, The Korean Herald, Korea JoongAng Daily, and The Korea Times. It was only until last year that the actress added her English name to her Instagram account, spelling it herself as Hae. But due to the immense commonality of Hye across the internet, there wasn't a big change in how articles/sources/new fans spelled her name. As such, I am proposing that we change the spelling of her name to Hae, rather than Hye, as to fix the misinformation that is still at large. It is only right that we respect how the actress spells her own name. Imanomynous (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:50, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oxo-biodegradation → Oxo-degradation – there's no biodegradation The RedBurn (ϕ) 16:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haileybury and Imperial Service College → Haileybury (Hertfordshire) – The school's official name is Haileybury College altho it is commonly known as just Haileybury. Haileybury and Imperial Service College is a previous name no longer used Southdevonian (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Southdevonian (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) → Israel–Hezbollah war (2023–present) – It seems like an all out war now Hezbollah has struck in golan heights of israel killing 12 people and israel has struck inside beirut targeting a hezbollah commander so i think it is fair to call it a war not just a conflict anymore. [1] 173.72.3.91 (talk) 15:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Category 7 (band) → Category 7 – No other article with this name. Jax 0677 (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – José Torres → José Torres (boxer) – No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by long-term significance, and the boxer doesn't have more page views than the other pages combined. Ortizesp (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Paul Mullin (footballer, born 1994) → Paul Mullin – After featuring as a prominant part of the widely viewed "Welcome to Wrexham" series and now having featured as a cameo character in a $200mil film, it is clear that Paul Mullin is a pretty well recognised celebrity. In my opinion, this means that this Paul Mullin should definetly deserve primary status over a non-league footballer who may have done well in the lower levels, but definetly lacks enough relevance to force this Paul Mullin into having to have a disambiguation. WikiHmmmm... (talk) 12:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Paul Mullin → Paul Mullin (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – DART Light Rail → DART light rail – Since there isn't any official branding for the light rail system, isn't it improper to capitalize the "light rail" part of the name? Making it lowercase would be in line with systems such as the VTA light rail, the MBTA subway, and the Toronto subway systems, each of which lacks formal brandings. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 10:23, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Qiyu Zhou → Nemo Zhou – Common name. She is most known nowadays for being a streamer and uses the name Nemo (or her handle akanemsko). Additionally, her chess.com profile is Nemo Zhou, and this recent tournament she played in gives her name as Nemo. Natg 19 (talk) 07:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Canine pancreatitis → Pancreatitis (veterinary) – I plan on expanding this article and include coverage of cats which have a similar rate of pancreatitis as dogs. The condition is very similar in both animals and is usually treated as the same condition in the literature. Splitting the articles would not be beneficial to the project. But I don't wish to start writing anything without any support for it. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Whau Lunatic Asylum → Carrington Hospital – Common name as shown by Google Scholar results where it's more than 5 times more common than names using Whau and more common than Oakley Hospital. The name Carrington Hospital is more common in Google News results, is used by the NZ encyclopaedia: [12] and is used by the Ministry of Urban Development in their Carrington development: [13] Recent sources use the name Carrington Hospital typically whilst historic sources use different versions of the old name. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – World Government Summit → World Governments Summit – Match the official Website Janaalrifaey (talk) 09:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 04:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nashville Metropolitan Transit Authority → WeGo Public Transit – Per WP:COMMONNAME, the agency is officially branded as WeGo Public Transit, including on their official website, and is usually referred to as such by news agencies. The Nashville MTA branding is outdated and no longer used on a contemporary basis. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 02:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian sports during the 2023–2024 Israeli invasion of Gaza → Palestinian sports during the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip – The parent article is Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip. A RM found that the 2023 invasion is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term "Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip".VR (Please ping on reply) 02:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Destruction of cultural heritage during the 2023–2024 Israeli invasion of Gaza → Destruction of cultural heritage during the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip – The parent article is Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip. A RM found that the 2023 invasion is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term "Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip".VR (Please ping on reply) 02:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war → Environmental impact of the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip – "Israel-Hamas war" is a broad topic, that covers the October 7, 2023 attack, Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, Israeli incursions in the West Bank etc. The direct parent article for this article is the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip as this article only covers the environmental impact from the Israeli invasion and not from any of the other subtopics. Hence the proposed title is more WP:PRECISE. It also makes sense that the environmental impact of the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip is very clearly a WP:NOTABLE topic in its own right and deserves its own article. VR (Please ping on reply) 02:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:28 film franchise → Template:28 Days Later – 28 Days Later (film series) seems to be the accepted name for the series/franchise. ★Trekker (talk) 01:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MLS Cup Playoffs → MLS Cup playoffs – Here "MLS Cup" is a proper name, but the playoffs are just the playoffs, except when in the context of the sponsorship name, e.g. "Audi MLS Cup Playoffs". Sort of like how Stanley Cup playoffs has always been. Dicklyon (talk) 00:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- 2007 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2007 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2008 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2008 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2009 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2009 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2010 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2010 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2011 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2011 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2012 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2012 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2013 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2013 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2014 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2014 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2015 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2015 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2016 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2016 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2017 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2017 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2018 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2018 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2019 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2019 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2020 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2020 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2021 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2021 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2022 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2022 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2023 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2023 MLS Cup playoffs
- (Discuss) – Allied naval bombardments of Japan during World War II → Allied naval bombardments of Japan – There was only one. Gryffindor (talk) 18:10, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 00:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
July 30, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Kansai Telecasting Corporation → Kansai Television – Official company name as of 2018. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 23:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–) → Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–present) – The current date range format for the first three of these hockey leagues doesn't seem to follow the usual Wikipedia convention. I found only 27 titles like this on the English Wikipedia. As for the fourth one, I found no indication that the older New Brunswick Junior Hockey League is a primary topic over the newer one, so I suggest disambiguation. Pageviews here. If we need to pick one of the two as primary, I suggest picking the new one. Some people looking for the new one are almost certainly landing on the article about the older one by accident. There is no hatnote to indicate that a reader might have found the wrong article. There is also a New Brunswick Junior C Hockey League article. Also, is it necessary to use "ice hockey" for the Northern League rather than just "hockey"? — BarrelProof (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zamindar → Zamindar of India – This article heading rationally seems to misleading and unconsciously biased toward the accurate Indian spectrum for the broader term Zamindar contrasting since zamindar term also implies under the wider View of broader “Universal Expedation.WP:NPOVTITLE WP:GNG and against the WP:Notability ”beside such persisting module, this Article consisting various socio ethnic group Instincts in Some of proceeding from Paragraph inclosing word such as Bhumihar, Bhramin and Rajput therefore definitely its entire relevance which posses its course of Interest only accommodate the Indian Community thus its initially whole framework seem more intermediating toward Zamindar of India Downforwiki (talk) 20:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ive (group) → IVE (group) – Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
As well, under MOS:IDENTITY, living subjects of articles are entitled to exceptional stylization if they clearly and consistently use an exceptional style, and an overwhelming majority of sources use the same exceptional style. When read in the context of WP:BLP, Wikipedia is probably necessarily compelled to use the exceptional style in such situations. A Google News search for "ive kpop" yields a majority of sources which write the name of the group as IVE in both title and body of the news articles. This includes NME, USA Today, L'Officiel Singapore, Variety, Korea JooAng Daily, The Times of India, Spin magazine, Allkpop, NYLON, Korea JoongAng Daily, the Grammy Awards website, Billboard, Forbes India, Hindustan Times In fairness, I made note of those articles I find not observing the stylization. I also include for your convenience a link to Google results which give you an idea whether the source that article is from consistently does or does not observe the stylization; * The Korea Herald – consistently does not (Google search for "ive" site:koreaherald.com) * Buzzfeed - inconsistent (Google search for "ive" site:buzzfeed.com; see also WP:BUZZFEED) * The Korea Times - consistently IVE otherwise? (Google search for "ive" site:koreatimes.com is consistently IVE, but all almost the results I get in the first 10 pages are primarily written in Korean. Some false positives appear for user comments where they are incorrectly spelling the contraction for I have, and not discussing the group. Page 10 was an arbitrarily chosen cut-off, there was no gotcha on page 11 to make me draw that line.) Their label's official website presents it as IVE, but this could be taken with a grain of salt because it also renders the individual group members as ANYUJIN, GAEUL, REI, JANGWONYOUNG, etc. The official website for the group proper does the same, with the same caveat . Their official fanclub is about the same – IVE is never not IVE, but almost everything English is rendered in all caps. Still, there are some notable exceptions for these sites – for example, one of their EPs is always After LIKE, which is more relevant to a move request for that article, but gives you some idea of intentionality here. Note that while these official websites are not conclusive given some ambiguity with how they're rendering English overall, but in no case are they not referring to the group as IVE instead of Ive. Their social media profiles hopefully make things a bit more obvious – they are always IVE on X, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, and Weibo all consistently render the name of the group in IVE. I say that this should make it a little bit more obvious because if you check their posts on these services, you can see they are less stringent in maintaining an ALMOST EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH IS ALL CAPS convention. In more typical posts, the IVE stylization is still prefered. Marketplaces and/or streaming services including Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, and Tidal all observe the IVE stylization. Wikipedia is not beholden to fans on SNS or fan wikis, but they can help give some indication of the WP:COMMONNAME; users on the group-dedicated reddit and X appear to overwhelmingly observe the IVE stylization, as do users on any number of fan wikis I found; [14], [15], [16]. I could also link to an untold number of fansites which all observe the IVE stylization. Finally – at least for now – I'll also suggest it's worth looking at the Korean language edition of Wikipedia (title IVE) as well as the Japanese language edition (titled IVE (音楽グループ)). Korea and Japan receive the bulk of the group's marketing efforts. I am requesting here the same move as was done in January 2024. This isn't simply taking another bite at the apple, but making a more robust argument on the basis of aspects of MOS:TMRULES which I believe were overlooked last time – specifically, how should we interpret thealmost never
in TMRULES? (And does the result of that interpretation agree with WP:COMMONNAME, or come into conflict with it?) I mentioned some other considerations at the top as well. Given the subjects of the article fall under WP:BLP, we might also obliged to consider MOS:IDENTITY;When there is a discrepancy between the term most commonly used by reliable sources for a person or group and the term that person or group uses for themselves, use the term that is most commonly used by recent reliable sources. If it is unclear which is most used, use the term that the person or group uses.
MOS:BIOEXCEPT may also be relevant. 122141510 (talk) 20:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tom & Jerry (2021 film) → Tom & Jerry (2021 American film) – There is a Tom and Jerry (2021 Indian film). Decided to open a RM since Tom and Jerry (2021 film) redirects here. This film uses Tom and Jerry in many sources and that Indian film is officially titled as Tom & Jerry in posters. Didn't want to move the page per WP:BOLD because this page is clearly the WP:PRIMARY TOPIC. We can always include a hatnote or change the current title to a disambiguation page (not sure if needed). DareshMohan (talk) 19:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Patrick Deneen (political theorist) → Patrick Deneen – Only one contender has the same name; and they have some mere 50, as opposed to 30.000+ 30-day pageviews. Biohistorian15 (talk) 19:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Patrick Deneen → Patrick Deneen (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Estoile Naiant → ESTOILE NAIANT – Per MOS:TMRULES,
"When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is not beholden to the WP:OFFICIAL NAME, but by way of introduction, the title of both albums are 'officially' rendered in all caps as we can see on Bleep [17], the webstore of the label the artist is signed to. We can also refer to Warp Records Bandcamp for EOLIAN INSTATE and ESTOILE NAIANT. The question is, how consistent have sources been in observing this official rendering? * Album reviews or other third party write-ups about ESTOILE NAIANT which observe the all caps stylization in both title and body of their article (from those reviews aggregated to Metacritic and have links available): :Dusted Magazine, exclaim.ca, Pitchfork, Sputnikmusic, The Line of Best Fit, Tiny Mix Tapes, MusicOMH, ResidentAdvisor * Album reviews or other third party write-ups about ESTOILE NAIANT which does not observe all caps stylization in either title or body of the article: :Allmusic (Observed in write-up, but not in title.) I'll note as an aside that Metacritic itself does not consistently observe the stylization, and sometimes in a manner that contradicts the reviews they're citing. Compare, for example, that on their aggregate page they paraphrase Exclaim as sayingEstoile Naiant works as a satisfying continuation of patten's work, albeit one that moves his sound in a sideways direction.
but Exclaim itself discussed the album as ESTOILE NAIANT in both title and in body of their review. * Album review or other third party write-ups about EOLIAN INSTATE which observe the all caps stylization in both title and body of their article: ResidentAdvisor, Pitchfork (n.b. as "EOLIAN INSTATE EP"). I cannot find or load a respective Metacritic page for EOLIAN INSTATE so here have simply gone off what I could find in results. * Peripheral mention of EOLIAN INSTATE which observes the all caps stylization: Pitchfork again, discussing as EOLIAN INSTATE when reviewing a track from GLAQJO XAACSSO; The Line of Best Fit, discussing Aviary from the then-upcoming EOLIAN INSTATE; FACT Magazine, announcing patten's signing to Warp and their debut EP as EOLIAN INSTATE; Dazed asNow, after a two year recording silence, he's signed to Warp and back with the brain-meltingly good five-track EOLIAN INSTATE EP.
[emphasis not mine]; Juno in both title and in body (News now arrives that patten has signed to UK institution Warp, with the first fruits of the new union being a five-track EP entitled EOLIAN INSTATE.
). I think it might also be constructive to consider – if the name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, we might expect that to still be the case even on third-party streaming services and/or music stores, even if it has been a non-trivial period of time since the works were released; * Spotify; as EOLIAN INSTATE and ESTOILE NAIANT * Apple Music; as EOLIAN INSTATE - EP and ESTOILE NAIANT * Tidal; as ESTOILE NAIANT (n.b. EOLIAN INSTATE not on site) * Amazon Music; EOLIAN INSTATE and ESTOILE NAIANT * Beatport; as EOLIAN INSTATE and ESTOILE NAIANT * Boomkat; as EOLIAN INSTATE and ESTOILE NAIANT I have had limited success finding examples where the particular stylized form(s) are not observed. Discogs has ESTOILE NAIANT, but also EOLIAN INSTATE. However, per WP:DISCOGS, it not a reliable source so it can inform the discussion only so much. Having made the case the names of the works are almost never written except in a particular stylized form, I assert the articles are obliged to be moved per MOS:TMRULES. 122141510 (talk) 19:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Haret Hreik airstrike → 30 July 2024 Beirut attack – a better name would be 30 July 2024 Beirut attack because we only know there is an attack on Beirut, maybe the person isn't dead. Kavas (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – World Rowing Federation → World Rowing – I believe the COMMONNAME is World Rowing, which is what they consistently use fro themselves. There are examples out there of using World Rowing Federation but I think they're rare. World Rowing is also more CONCISE. For what it's worth, World Rowing Federation is not the official name. According to their Bylaws, the official name is still FISA, but "World Rowing is the designation used operationally by FISA." In searching for references online it's tricky to separate references to World Rowing from the World Rowing Championships, but here are some recent examples: [18] [19] [20] JFHutson (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sh2-1 → Sh 2-1 – Per Talk:Sh 2-185, as an alternative to that proposed move. Praemonitus appears to be correct that the form with a space is more commonly used. For the sake of consistency, one and only one of these two proposed moves should be done. SevenSpheres (talk) 16:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Uma Musume Pretty Derby → Umamusume Pretty Derby – The official title of the project by Cygames (the owners of the IP) has been Umamusume: Pretty Derby since at least 2021 when the mobile game released, see this press note, and has been more obvious with the releases on the west, including (attaching official websites) Umamusume Party Dash and the mobile game. This could be disputed due to western anime databases (mainly ANN and MAL) listing it as Uma Musume, but it should follow the official one (Crunchyroll, the distributor for the anime, also calls it this way) Kanade2611 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Kanade2611 (talk) 21:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – In a Word → In a Word (disambiguation) – On Allmusic and Amazon, the band's name and the date range are not included in the title – this box set is simply called In a Word. On the cover art, the band name and date range also appear very separated from the main title, which is simply "In a Word". The band is identified by its elaborate logo on the cover art – not using plain text, and the date range is shown separately in a small difficult-to-read font. There is only one other topic on the disambiguation page, which is a non-album song by Toto released as a B-side (of "I'll Be Over You") and then later on a compilation album (Toto XX). — BarrelProof (talk) 15:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Peregonovka offensive → Battle of Peregonovka – Dushnilkin just unilaterally moved this article from "Battle of Peregonovka" to "Peregonovka offensive", without any prior discussion or consensus building on the matter. Their edit summary states "All sources in the article do not reflect the battle for the village, they refer to a full-scale battle in the Uman-Peregonovka area along the entire front, such a name would be correct". Now, this is very confusing, because none of the sources refer to this as an "offensive": Avrich 1971 uses the term "battle of Peregonovka" in the index and never uses the term "offensive" in sections about the Makhnovists; Darch 2020 refers to it as the "Battle of Peregonovka" and alternatively as the "Battle at Peregonovka", he never uses "Peregonovka offensive" (the only time he refers to an "offensive" in the Peregonovka chapter refers to the broader White gains in mid-to-late 1919); Footman 1961 describes Peregonovka as "one of the decisive battles of the Civil War in the south", he never refers to an "offensive" in the context of Peregonovka; Malet 1982 describes at as the "Battle of Perehonivka" (in the Ukrainian fashion), he never mentions an "offensive" in the context of Peregonovka; Shubin 2010 doesn't describe it as either a "battle" or an "offensive", he uses the term "sudden strike [...] at Peregonovka"; Skirda 2004 refers to it as the "battle of Peregonovka", even describes it as a "crucial battle", he never refers to an "offensive" in the context of Peregonovka. So none of the sources refer to it as an offensive and almost all of them describe it as a battle. I don't know what rationale there was for moving this other than naked OR, but it sure wasn't enough for a unilateral move. Grnrchst (talk) 14:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tyler Reed → Tyler Reed (American football) – No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by page views or long-term significance, so DAB should be at base name. Ortizesp (talk) 13:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 13:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All → The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn't a Guy at All – Correcting capitalization per MOS:AT and MOS:TITLECAPS. This title is on the local or global move blacklist. DocWatson42 (talk) 12:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 CrowdStrike incident → 2024 CrowdStrike-triggered IT system outages – While this exact phrasing turned up only in the last moments of the previous move discussion, I think it's the synthesis position of everything that was argued in the previous week of intense discussion. Jruderman (talk) 10:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – March on Rome → March on Rome (1922) – I cannot see how Mussolini's march on Rome can be the primary topic here. Caesar and Sulla's marches inspired Mussolini. Politically all of the marches have been of great importance Traumnovelle (talk) 09:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of České dráhy locomotive classes → List of Czech locomotive classes – It is not list od ČD locomotives, a lot of vehicles in the list were never been owned/operated by ČD. Cmelak770 (talk) 08:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cryptozoo → Cryptozoo (film) – Recent pageviews seems to indicate that there are some confusion by readers as to which Cryptozoo/CryptooZoo articles to read, i.e. CryptoZoo (game). I would put that at the minimum, there is no primary topic here and a dab to be create at the base title. – robertsky (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Jaahnavi Kandula → Killing of Jaahnavi Kandula – It is more accurate to label Kandula's death as a killing. The sources in the article indisputably describe it as such. मल्ल (talk) 05:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 07:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MAX (Utah Transit Authority) → BRT (Utah Transit Authority) – "MAX" is no longer used to describe any planned or existing UTA routes, and while using "BRT" to describe most of UTA's planned bus enhancement projects is somewhat dubious, it's what UTA currently uses on their website and branding. https://www.rideuta.com/Services/Bus-Rapid-Transit Nebula3lem123 (talk) 20:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 03:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Malaga railway station → Ballajura railway station – Name has changed as per https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook-Labor-Government/Joint-Media-Statement---Major-milestones-for-METRONET-Morley-Ellenbrook-line--20240730. Steelkamp (talk) 02:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Privately made firearm → Ghost gun – WP:COMMONNAME, see above. WestRiding24 (talk) 08:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 01:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James Ferguson (footballer, fl. 1905-15) → James Ferguson (1900s–1910s footballer) – or James Ferguson (Cowdenbeath and Dumbarton footballer). Date ranges usually use an en dash rather than hyphen. Apparently, "fl." is an abbreviation of the Latin word floruit, roughly meaning "flourished" or "active", but to me its meaning seems rather obscure. I found a total of 150 articles on Wikipedia that have that in their titles – 26 of which are about footballers. Note also Jim Ferguson (footballer), James Ferguson (Queen's Park footballer), and Jimmy Ferguson (footballer). — BarrelProof (talk) 00:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meguro Sky Garden → Ohashi Junction – Article expanded to cover the entire junction, not just its rooftop garden. User:WoodElf 00:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 1 → Starship flight test 1 – SpaceX has not referred to these missions as "Starship integrated flight test #". They call the campaign "integrated flight testing" but the missions, Starship flight test, Starship's second flight test, Starship's third flight test and Starship’s fourth flight test. This presents us with an opportunity to rename and move these pages to a much simpler, shorter, more natural name. Other sources do call the missions "Starship Flight #, however, my concern is that this may interfere with any future mission naming and including flight test provides an easy, preemptive disambiguation. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 2 → Starship flight test 2
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 3 → Starship flight test 3
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 4 → Starship flight test 4
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 5 → Starship flight test 5
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 6 → Starship flight test 6
- (Discuss) – Muppies – Muslim Urban Professionals → Muppies – The current exact name, with formatting/whitespace, is an unlikely search-term. Although their website does use this in the header, they seem to use the short-form Muppies universally on the pages except that place where explaining what the term means. For conciseness and commonname, I propose renaming it to simply "Muppies". Alternately, I could live with "Muslim Urban Professionals", being its full expanded name that might be more self-defining. The article has previously been at both locations over the years, so I'm taking a discuss-not-bold route to get some further input. DMacks (talk) 00:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
July 29, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Sh 2-185 → Sh2-185 – For consistency with other articles on Sharpless objects. SevenSpheres (talk) 22:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toothed belt → timing belt – The most common name for this concept is "timing belt" not "toothed belt". The move is currently blocked by a redirect to a pointless disamb page. The move will either make no difference to the reader or will avoid one unnecessary step through the disamb. Jorge Stolfi (talk) 00:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Jorge Stolfi (talk) 22:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luxon → Luxon (disambiguation) – Redirect to Christopher Luxon per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. With very few alternative individuals and terms with this name. Christopher Luxon the Prime Minister of New Zealand seems to be the clear primary topic for such name. Zinderboff(talk) 10:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 21:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SWIFT → Swift (banking) – SWIFT uses "Swift" name commonly. Ahri Boy (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 21:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GEO Foundation → GEO Academies – The organization appears to now be named "GEO Academies" (URL http://geofoundation.org redirects to http://geoacademies.org.) Qitivi (talk) 19:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 21:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – STEAM fields → STEAM education – The Slate article cited in the first sentence states that STEAM is not just a collection of five fields, but a movement to integrate creative thinking and design skills into STEM education. And this is how much of the article describes it. But the first sentence defines it as a collection of five fields, and the presence of "fields" in the title reinforces that definition. I think the lede would be more consistent with the sources and with the rest of the article if we change the title to something like "STEAM education" or "STEAM movement" or just "STEAM", and change the first sentence to something like: STEAM education is an approach to teaching STEM subjects that incorporates artistic skills like creative thinking and design.Justin Kunimune (talk) 15:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 21:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mark Krikorian → Mark Krikorian (immigration critic) – (make dab at Mark Krikorian) Not sure what the modifier should be but no primary topic Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 21:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Galois module → Galois representation – I think "Galois representation" is more common than "Galois module" even though technically the latter is more general. Taku (talk) 11:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 21:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mr. Bojangles → Mr. Bojangles (disambiguation) – Inbound links and page views suggest that most people searching for "Mr. Bojangles" are looking for the song. The only other element that has that exact name and an article is an obscure album released well after the song became popular, so I think it's safe to say the song is the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sleeman Centre (Guelph) → Sleeman Centre – The venue in Brisbane is commonly and officially known as "Sleeman Sports Complex". "Sleeman Centre" is unambiguous. Also recommend deleting the dabpage; hatnotes at the articles are sufficient. 162 etc. (talk) 19:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sleeman Centre → Sleeman Centre (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Sleeman Centre (Brisbane) → Sleeman Sports Complex
- (Discuss) – Dan Hawkins → Dan Hawkins (American football) – No clear primary topic, the American footballer was moved in 2013 due to pageviews but now the musician has more views (2,338) than the American footballer (1,266), D. L. Hawkins has 316, the politician has 168, the footballer has 108 and the rugby union player has 65[[21]] Only 1 Google result is for the American footballer (the Wikipedia article, Dan Hawkins but note that Dan Hawkins (musician) is the 1st result) all other results are for the musician or I can't determine though this may be partly due to my location. The musician is still active while the American footballer doesn't appear to be so its more likely the musician will be searched for in the future. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pierre Carl Ouellet → PCO (wrestler) – Ouellet has performed as "PCO" for the last eight years, and hasn't performed using the name "Pierre" for a long time. "Pierre" is not his real name so the current title is potentially misleading. McPhail (talk) 16:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mary Manning (photographer) → Lee Mary Manning – This artist now goes by the name Lee Mary Manning.[2][3][4]
References
- (Discuss) – Crooked I discography → KXNG Crooked discography – Main article was moved to KXNG Crooked, discography should be renamed as well for consistency. मल्ल (talk) 15:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Olympic Games scandals and controversies → List of Olympic Games scandals, controversies and incidents – Munich massacre, Death of Nodar Kumaritashvili, Centennial Olympic Park bombing is not a controversy. HaydenWong (talk) 15:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cicada (2024 film) → Cicada (upcoming film) – This film is yet to have a release, so still it is an upcoming film. Once the film is released, the year can be added in its title. Actually a film page cannot be created with its year along with title, if it is in production. KBaboo (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Yemeni drone attack on Israel → 2024 Houthi drone attack on Israel – Not accurate to call this a "Yemeni drone attack" when it wasn't conducted by Yemen's internationally-recognized government. We don't treat other attacks in such a manner; for example, we don't call Hezbollah's missiles "Lebanese attacks". This doesn't need to be consistent with 2024 Israeli strikes on Yemen, because those strikes were conducted on Yemen's internationally-recognized territory (even though said territory is currently under Houthi control). Elli (talk | contribs) 14:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – General Assemblies of Álava → General Assembly of Álava – The first two were moved without discussion to their current titles. While indeed their official names in Spanish and Basque are grammatically plural (Juntas Generales and Batzar Nagusiak), English sources seem to prefer the singular form. The singular form is used in English by the the Basque Government, a website operated by the government of Biscay and various scholarly books ([22], [23]). The websites of the Juntas Generales of Biscay and Gipuzkoa use the singular and plural forms rather inconsistently (Biscay, Gipuzkoa), the website of the Juntas Generales of Álava doesn't have an English version. As for the third article, it makes sense to keep the title plural, but the disambiguator shouldn't be the Spanish name. Santi2222 (talk) 13:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Museum of London → London Museum – Rebrand from "Museum of London" to "London Museum" has taken place: Official site as well as [24], [25]. Docklands Museum is already using new name as per [26]. This move would override a dab page at London Museum, but that is acceptable since there are 2 links on that page: 1 for this museum and one for London Museum (1912–1976). If this page move is done, then the dab page would not be needed as a hatnote to the former museum would suffice. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- London Museum → London Museum (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Museum of London Docklands → London Museum Docklands
- (Discuss) – Hearts on Fire (company) → Hearts On Fire (company) – The title has been misspelled, does not contain standard capitalization or punctuation, or is misleading or inaccurate. Cos529828mo (talk) 12:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sir John Dillwyn-Venables-Llewelyn, 4th Baronet → John Dillwyn-Venables-Llewelyn – WP:NCPEER point 3, no reason why the manual of style wouldn't apply here. Fram (talk) 08:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – People's Socialist Party (Nepal) → ? – Those two political parties in Nepal could be easily confused with each other. We need to find a way to distinguish those two political parties, perhaps by including "Upendra Yadav" or "Ashok Rai" in the title. GTrang (talk) 15:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 06:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – IOC Refugee Olympic Team at the 2020 Summer Olympics → Refugee Olympic Team at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Hey all! I believe this article title should be simplified for a couple of reasons: # Concision: Per WP:CONCISE, we need to balance brevity with sufficient information. IOC Refugee Olympic Team may be the official name of the team, which was the rationale for the move to the current title, but I see absolutely no reason to essentially say "Olympics" three times in this title. # Consistency: WP:CONSISTENT says article titles should be consistent among similar articles. The team and their participation in 2016 and 2024 all start their titles with
Refugee Olympic Team at
while this is the only article starting with IOC Refugee Olympic Team at. I think this is a very clear case for both of these policy sections, but I would like to check for consensus from the community. Fire away! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Levomethamphetamine → Levmetamfetamine – Levmetamfetmaine is the I.N.N., it's the term used by both the Food and Drug Administration and the Drug Enforcement Administration (the two regulatory bodies that involved in its therapeutic regulation in the only country it is marketed in, the United States), and it's also the term used by United States Pharmacopeia (which produces the reference standards used for evaluating the purity of levmetamfetamine therapeutics and USP listings are explicitly recognized by law in the United States) Irruptive Creditor (talk) 03:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cohen (surname) → Cohen – Cohen now is not a valid disambig page: if you delete partial matches, only Kohen Building remains - Altenmann >talk 03:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Cohen → Cohen (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Shwekey → Yaakov Shwekey – He is commonly known by his full name, not just his surname. Yeshivish613 (talk) 00:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Yeshivish613 (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
July 28, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Wolf at the Door (disambiguation) → Wolf at the Door – * Wolf at the Door → Wolf at the Door (Keane song) Current title is now a redirect per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wolf at the Door, and is no longer PTOPIC. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:45, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kylan Russell → Rylan Kissell – I don't understand why this article is titled "Kylan Russell." I can't find anything calling him by that name. Here's his page on the Paris Olympics website. Here's his page on the USA Shooting website. Here's his page on his school's athletics website. Here's his own Instagram. Was this article titled as a joke? Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 22:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ames (department store) → Ames Department Stores – Better disambiguation Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lipiodol → Iodized oil – Generic name as with most other drug articles we use the generic not the tradename and Lipidol is a tradename so it should be moved as this article talks about all brands not just Lipidol brand Isla🏳️⚧ 21:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Liverpool 1 (TV series) → Liverpool 1 – The only other topic for Liverpool 1 is the postal district, but since that's not an article, then the disambiguator can be removed. WP:SMALLDETAILS applies so Liverpool 1 is the TV series while Liverpool One is the shopping area with hatnotes on both pages linking to the other. The disambiguation page, Liverpool 1, can safely be deleted. JuniperChill (talk) 19:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Liverpool 1 → Liverpool 1 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Palestinian genocide accusation → Palestinian genocide – Given the movement of Gaza genocide to that title, the current title here has become incongruously inconsistent. How can the parent of a child topic that is not couched in the language of "accusation" be couched in that language? It should be obvious than it should not. More generally, it has become apparent that the language of "accusation" is generally inappropriate. This is not only per MOS:ACCUSED (which outlines how the language of accusation is problematic in its presumptive deployment of doubt (presumably ultimately as a corollary of WP:NPOV)), but also per consistency with similar titles on similar subjects. There are many pages on the topics of presumed or suspected (but not legally ruled on) genocides -- this is in fact the majority of them -- but no other genocide topic on Wikipedia, regardless of how speculative it is, is couched as a "genocide accusation". See the search results. Likewise, the phrase "Palestinian genocide accusation" is all but unknown to scholarship, in stark contrast to "Palestinian genocide", which is a common and widely used phrase, including in titular form, such as in the 2013 The Palestinian Genocide by Israel by the eminent Francis Boyle. In the previous move discussion, I somewhat rallied support around the current title, but that was in October last year, before much of the subsequent discussion around developments in Gaza. It seemed sensible at the time, but that was then, and this is now. Events have moved on significantly since then, not least with the ICJ case and provisional measures -- and hence the Gaza genocide move. As this page covers the overarching legal and scholarly topic of Palestinian genocide, the weight of both everything that went into the Gaza genocide RM discussion, and everything that precedes it in Palestinian history, including the Nakba and all subsequent Israeli policies and actions that have been discussed as conceivably genocidal by legal and academic experts, is under consideration. Given that this page has a significantly grander scope than its child, its title cannot reasonably contain greater doubt than that of its child. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Jerium (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hawkeye (TV series) → Hawkeye (1994 TV series) – The article name is too confusing because there is also Hawkeye (miniseries). This article's name was originally Hawkeye (TV series) , moved to Hawkeye (1994 TV series) in 2019, but moved back to Hawkeye (TV series) with no discussion in 2023. However, since then many articles, including List of Hawkeye supporting characters and Clint Barton, have wrongly linked to this article, thinking this article is Hawkeye (miniseries). Since the current disambiguation is not working, this article should be moved back to Hawkeye (1994 TV series). saebou (talk) 13:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Montréal-Est, Québec → Montreal East, Quebec – change from French language to English language, as this is English Wikipedia. Josethewikier (talk) 13:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ober's test → Ober test – 20 results for Ober's test on Pubmed and 23 for Ober test. This combined with the trend towards removing "
's
" in medicine and the calls for standardization of the removal of apostrophe s by the WHO, AMA, and NIH, among others, points me towards the validity of this RM. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 15:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – East Asian age reckoning → Age reckoning in the Sinosphere – Rationale explained here: Talk:Sinosphere#Pages using "East Asia" in place of the Sinosphere and in this longer post. Tl;dr, "East Asia" often excludes Vietnam, which is also a part of the Sinosphere. Related previous move discussions that passed: Seals in the Sinosphere and Sixtieth birthday in the Sinosphere. Open to more suggested titles. Alternates: # Sinosphere age reckoning #* I think a little confusing; may suggest trying to determine the age of the Sinosphere itself. # Traditional age reckoning in the Sinosphere #* This is more precise I feel; currently, as far as I'm aware, the entire Sinosphere no longer uses the age reckoning for major applications, mostly just ceremonial. "Age reckoning in x" can be interpreted as a present and not mostly past practice 104.232.119.107 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Antiope (Greek myth) → Antiope (mythology) – Better, simpler disambiguation. There no articles about an Antiope from a different mythology. MClay1 (talk) 10:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zen Jun Qian → Zen Wong – If the subject is "known as Zen Wong", and that name is used throughout the article, then the article should be at that title, with Zen Jun Qian redirecting to it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:19, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Measles morbillivirus → Measles virus – See section Talk:Measles morbillivirus#Rename kupirijo (talk) 08:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Manito Park and Botanical Gardens → Manito Park – The name is simply "Manito Park" on all signs posted within the park, the official city webpage (https://my.spokanecity.org/parks/major/manito/), and the word "botanical" occurs zero times on the 104 page long NRHP nomination form for Manito Park and Boulevard (https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/15000909). Plus, I've never heard it referred to as "Manito Park and Botanical Gardens" in real life, which is obviously not verifiable for Wikipedia standards but a quick google and google news search will back that up. SpokaneWilly (talk) 08:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doria Pamphilj Gallery → Galleria Doria Pamphilj – This is the most prevalent name in English-language sources after 2000, according to ngrams. Ham II (talk) 07:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Untitled Jack White album → No Name (album) – I believed the safer option for naming this article was "Untitled Jack White album" due to the unique release method that did not immediately establish an official title for the album. However, it seems "No Name" is the common name for this album, as it has been widely used by fans and music journalists as well as Metacritic. More search results appear for "Jack White No Name" rather than "Jack White untitled", and the latter still yields results that include a mention of the title "No Name". Images of a forthcoming official vinyl release have also begun circulating the internet, with the liner notes confirming an official title of "No Name".
My only source for this at the moment is a Reddit thread, although I will provide an update if I find a reliable secondary source reporting on this, so I will not make this the primary reason for the move at the moment as it is not a reliable source.This has been confirmed in a Stereogum article. This report and WP:COMMONNAME indicate that the article title should be changed. Aria1561 (talk) 04:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chrysler → Stellantis North America – Now that the page for the Chrysler brand has been split into Chrysler (brand) it would make sense to rename the page to Stellantis North America. Professional Adriazeri (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – YIMBY movement → YIMBY – Consistency with NIMBY. I see no reason why one is a "movement" and the other is not. HudecEmil (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
July 27, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Jitendra Narayan Singh Tyagi → Syed Wasim Rizvi – The person is still called Syed Wasim Rizvi by most media sources and WP:RS. Also, he spells his name as Wasim not Waseem so that should be the spelling used. Xoocit (talk) 21:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dongguk Tonggam → Tongguk t'onggam – Per WP:NCKO, this new target is the McCune–Reischauer spelling. Searching in Google Scholar, "Tongguk t'onggam" gets 121 results and "Dongguk Tonggam" gets 33. Neither appear in Ngrams. I flipped through the results and sentence casing is more common; many style guidelines for East Asian studies recommend sentence casing for transliterated titles. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Farmington New Mexico temple → Farmington New Mexico Temple – This seems to be a proper name. GnocchiFan (talk) 21:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Violent Cop (1989 film) → Violent Cop – Violent Cop is currently a disambiguation page with only 2 links after Violent Cop (2000 Kant Leung film) was deleted. The 1989 movie seems significantly more notable: daily average traffic over 30x more than the 2000 film :[[27]], Rotten Tomatoes lists 6 reviews with additional ones found like BFI, Telegraph, The Vindicator. I didn't find any reviews for the 2000 film. The disambiguation page should actually be deleted after this move but I don't know if it's possible through this process or should a separate AfD started for that. Mika1h (talk) 21:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cooper Island → Cooper Island (South Georgia) – No clear primary. Page views show the island in the British Virgin Islands as consistently having more page views, but not enough for it to unambiguously be the primary. Seems like it would be better suited to WP:NOPRIMARY. Turnagra (talk) 20:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – U.S. Junior Amateur Golf Championship → U.S. Junior Amateur – Same rationale as previous moves of U.S. Women's Open and U.S. Amateur. Common names, used by the USGA, and all already redirect to the current titles. pʰeːnuːmuː → pʰiːnyːmyː → ɸinimi → fiɲimi 19:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- United States Girls' Junior Golf Championship → U.S. Girls' Junior
- U.S. Mid-Amateur Golf Championship → U.S. Mid-Amateur
- United States Senior Men's Amateur Golf Championship → U.S. Senior Amateur
- United States Senior Women's Amateur Golf Championship → U.S. Senior Women's Amateur
- U.S. Women's Amateur (golf) → U.S. Women's Amateur
- (Discuss) – Roller in-line hockey → Inline hockey – Last discussed in 2018. Reliable sources refer to this sport as either "roller hockey" or "inline hockey", but almost never "roller in-line hockey". Proposed title is good WP:NATURAL disambiguation. The lack of hyphen (which was a sticking point at the previous RM) is consistent with Category:Inline hockey, Inline skating, and Inline skates. 162 etc. (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tadepalle, Vijayawada → Tadepalli – According to the sources, Tadepalli is located in the capital region of Andhra Pradesh and it is a seperate town having its own municipality. However this article was unilaterally moved - https://cdma.ap.gov.in/en/about-tadepalli-municipality Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gannavaram, Vijayawada → Gannavaram – Gannavaram has its own jurisdiction, inspector. - https://krishna.ap.gov.in/public-utility/gannavaram/. A simple template can be added to make readers understand that this Gannavaram is in Krishna dt. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Miligram (band) → Miligram – There is not any other page with title beginning Miligram; please, check disambiguation. --5.43.76.74 (talk) 12:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 16:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Black Widow (1951 film) → Black Widow (1951 film) – I've done a search of sources and I believe this article is mistitled. Sources consulted split as follows: Steve Chibnall & Brian McFarlane: The British 'B' Film (2009) (referenced in article) Uses both names. [28] The Black Widow (1951 film) (current title): Monthly Film Bulletin (1951) (referenced in article) IMDb (unreliable source, external link in article) AllMovie (reliability unknown, external link in article) BritMovie (reliability unknown, external link in article) Peter Hutchings: The A to Z of Horror Cinema (2009) [29] Robert Michael “Bobb” Cotter: The Women of Hammer Horror (2014) p.108 [30] Alan Burton & Steve Chibnall: Historical Dictionary of British Cinema (2013) p.372 [31] Black Widow (1951 film) (proposed title): Film's opening titles (image shown in article) BFI Collections Search (usually reliable, referenced in article) Michael F. Keaney: British Film Noir Guide (2015) p.19 (extensive discussion) [32] Michael Singer: Film Directors (2001) p.455 [33] Chris Fellner: The Encyclopedia of Hammer Films (2019) p.532 [34] Andrew Spicer: Historical Dictionary of Film Noir (2009) p.441 [35] Jay Robert Nash & Ralph Ross: The Motion Picture Guide (1985) p.116 [36] I think the balance is towards omitting the definite article, and the clincher is the films' own opening titles. Masato.harada (talk) 15:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Koufax → Koufax (disambiguation) – Sandy Koufax is easily the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC when it comes to the name Koufax. Move this to (disambiguation) and "Koufax" should redirect to Sandy Koufax. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel and apartheid → Israel's apartheid against Palestinians – This move should have been implemented years ago, when the world's most prominent human rights organization were in consensus that Israel's practices and policies in the OPT and within Israel constitute systemic discrimination against the Palestinian people, aka apartheid. The ICJ ruling yesterday by the world's highest court that this occupation constitutes apartheid was the cherry on the top. This move is long overdue, it is time to call a spade a spade. * Human Rights Watch: World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid * Amnesty International: "The occupation is a key pillar of the system of apartheid that Israel uses to dominate and oppress Palestinians, and which has caused suffering on a mass scale." * Oxfam: "The Court confirmed that Israel is committing the crime of apartheid in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which is one of the most serious international crimes." * The Intercept: "The court also notably declared Israel’s mistreatment of Palestinians to be a form of segregation and apartheid. * The Guardian: In a historic, albeit non-binding, opinion, the court found multiple breaches of international law by Israel including activities that amounted to apartheid. * Financial Times: The court said these policies were in breach of an international agreement against racial segregation and apartheid, called the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination." . Makeandtoss (talk) 09:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 11:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wiley (publisher) → Wiley – the publisher is clearly the primary topic here. Most of the other examples on Wiley are only partial matches and the publisher dominates results in reliable sources. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wiley → Wiley (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Vijayawada Airport → Vijayawada International Airport – Why not Vijayawada International Airport when it is commonly referred to as Vijayawada International Airport? Proposing move. Inviting inputs. Thewikizoomer (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 07:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 World Friendship Games → World Friendship Games – It is unclear if the World Friendship Games will take place in 2024, after the organisers announced their postponement in early-July, according to https://www.reuters.com/sports/russias-world-friendship-games-postponed-2025-report-says-2024-07-03. I think the year should only be added if this initiative makes it to its second edition. --Minoa (talk) 01:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jang Won-young → Jang Wonyoung – Per WP:COMMONNAME, She is often referred to without the hyphen, with or without her surname. This includes her company profile [37] and in the news [38][39][40]. Perhaps more importantly per WP:NCKOREAN, where there is a personal preference, Wikipedia should forgo the hyphen, and she has forgone the hyphen on her own Instagram [41]. I don't believe this would be confusing for anyone as the hyphen doesn't have a role in differentiating her name like it would for 유나 vs 윤아, so I think we should honour the name on her Instagram and company profile. I also think this applies to An Yu-jin but if this is uncontroversial I believe we can just move that one over too. Orangesclub (talk) 04:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kertanegara of Singhasari → Kertanagara – Kertanagara is the proper spelling used in academic sources and also increasingly used in popular sources. "Of Singhasari" isn't necessary because there's no other individual/article with the same name. Neocorelight (Talk) 03:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maggie Shea (sailor) → Maggie Shea – The Maggie Shea "page" redirects here. There is a Margaret "Peggy" Shea, Margaret Shea (scientist), so this shouldn't be an issue of disambiguation as if they both went by Margaret. UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Licania splendens → Angelesia splendens – the currently accepted name at Plants of the World Online. Declangi (talk) 01:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
July 26, 2024
[edit]- (Discuss) – Removal of Sam Altman from OpenAI → Ouster of Sam Altman from OpenAI – OR Dismissal of Sam Altman from OpenAI is also preferred Most reliable sources have used the word fired or ousted or pushed out. https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-co-founder-who-helped-oust-sam-altman-leaves-the-company-ed51c6f5 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/29/former-openai-board-member-explains-why-ceo-sam-altman-was-fired.html https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/17/23965982/openai-ceo-sam-altman-fired https://www.wsj.com/tech/sam-altman-departs-open-ai-mira-murati-interim-ceo-41f6d51e Dismissal can be used as well. SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_of_Shirley_Sherrod , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_dismissal_of_inspectors_general The term “Ouster” often carries a stronger connotation than “Removal,” implying a forcible or abrupt expulsion, sometimes with an element of conflict or controversy. Ouster: This word suggests a dramatic, perhaps contentious action, hinting at underlying conflicts or significant dissatisfaction that led to Sam Altman’s departure. “Ouster” implies that Sam Altman did not leave by choice and that there was a significant push from other stakeholders within OpenAI Removal: This term is more neutral and can imply a routine or procedural change without the same level of drama or conflict. “Removal” could be interpreted as a more mutual or administrative decision, which might not convey the full extent of the situation if it was indeed contentious In summary, most reliable sources uses the word Ouster, and is a more appropriate term that conveys a sense of urgency and conflict, making it a more compelling choice for a headline about Sam Altman’s departure from OpenAI, especially because the circumstances were controversial and abrupt. Astropulse (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – L 97-12 → Gliese 293 – According to WP:STARNAMES, for stars that have no Bayer or Flamsteed designations, the Henry Draper Catalogue (HD) number, variable-star designation or the Gliese number should be used for the article name about the star. As L 97-12 has no HD number or Variable-star designation, the name Gliese 293 should be used. The current name is only slightly more used than the proposed name, but is also harder to search. 21 Andromedae (talk) 22:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – PG 1047+003 → UY Sextantis – According to WP:STARNAMES, for stars without proper names, Bayer designations, Flamsteed designations, Gliese Catalog designations or HD numbers (the case of this star), variable-star designations are prefered over other designations. This is similar with V1400 Centauri, where the name isn't the common name, but satisfies this guideline and has the advantage of being a simpler designation. 21 Andromedae (talk) 21:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chokmah → hokhma – A quick google search after I saw it had been moved to a misspelled page showed that overwhelmingly, hokhma is the spelling. Chokmah has 700 results, https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=40000007&q=judaism+AND+chokmah&btnG= while Hokhma has 3600+ https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=40000007&q=judaism+AND+hokhma&btnG= Ogress 19:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Riley Green → Riley Green (disambiguation) – The singer's page has 104 inbound links and a daily average of 1400 page views a day. Riley Green, Lancashire has 68 inbound links and about two page views a day. From these numbers, I think it's clear by a wide margin that almost anyone looking for "Riley Green" on Wikipedia is looking for the singer. The Lancashire landmark and the identical sounding Riley Greene are both plausible for a dab, so I propose that the singer be made the primary topic and, optionally, that the other two items listed at Riley Green (disambiguation) instead. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- (Discuss) – Great Lakes → Great Lakes of North America – There is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Great Lakes". The African Great Lakes are at least equally significant, and in aggregate contain more fresh water than their North American counterparts. Vpab15 (talk) 16:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Home improvement (disambiguation) → Home Improvement – The header Home Improvement already redirects to Home improvement (disambiguation) and all the entries (except one) listed upon the disambiguation page use uppercase "I". As for the putative WP:PRIMARYTOPIC with the lowercased "i" — "Home improvement" — it is not even the sole term for this type of activity — "Home renovation", which redirects to it, could serve equally well as the article's main header. The lowercase primary topic / uppercase dab page are exemplified by the frequently-referenced header Red meat / Red Meat or the still-active Saddle tramp / Saddle Tramp nomination at Talk:Saddle tramp (person)#Requested move 8 July 2024. If consensus were to prefer a separate Home improvement / Home renovation header and an uppercase Home Improvement (disambiguation) page with Home Improvement (TV series) as the primary topic, as exemplified by Iron maiden paired with Iron Maiden serving as the primary topic of the Iron Maiden (disambiguation) page on which all entries (except the one for the torture device) use an uppercase "M", I would support such an alternative option, which was not approved 20 months ago at Talk:Home Improvement (TV series)#Requested move 18 November 2022. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nushki District → Noshki District – There seem to be conflicting sources on the name of the district; some sources will use Noshki, renamed from Noshkay, while others will use Nushki. Noshki, from what I can find, seems to be both the more common among reliable sources, and also the correct name. If consensus can be found to move this page, I'll also be renaming related pages Nushki and Nushki shooting, as they'd be renamed for the same reason. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 06:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 07:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pin Princess → ? – "Pin Princess" isn't normal English word order, and this stub appears to have been put together either with machine translation or efforts of a non-native English speaker. I'm not sure what this bordering-on-obscure figure's most common name in English-language sources might be (I lack a body of source material on this period and region). "Princess of Pin" seems reasonably likely, but it might really be one of her longer names, and "Prince of Pin" appears to be a title (and an earlier one) not a name anyway. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC); rev'd. 02:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bolognese School → Bolognese school – Schools of art, schools of thought, etc., are usually rendered in sources with lowercase school. We should fix, consistent with WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. This is a logical extension of the consensus at Talk:Cretan School#Requested move 25 April 2024, but I thought I'd do another discussion just in case. And for the Cuzco school, restore the common spelling. (These are all found at Template:Western art movements, and there may be others there that I've missed.) Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lucchese School → Lucchese school
- Delft School (painting) → Delft school (painting)
- Norwich School of painters → Norwich school of painters
- Boston School (painting) → Boston school (painting)
- Volcano School → Volcano school
- Pont-Aven School → Pont-Aven school
- Cusco School → Cuzco school
- Quito School → Quito school
- Sienese School → Sienese school
- Cologne School of Painting → Cologne school of painting
- Hudson River School → Hudson River school
- Cologne School → Cologne school
- Cologne School (music) → Cologne school (music)
- (Discuss) – Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque missile strike → Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque attack – It is not at all clear that what happened was the result of missiles launched by a manned aircraft. Forward quotes lieutenant colonel in the Israel army calling it "a drone attack", while The Guardian blames "Israeli shells" and "artillery fire" for the attack. An article in the Journal of Palestine Studies also calls it "shelling". The most detailed account is given in the Goldstone report as "The attack on the al-Maqadmah mosque".VR (Please ping on reply) 04:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 01:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – German Taurus controversy → Proposed German supply of Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine – This is a title that would feel more common for English Wikipedia to me, even if the article is a translation from German Wikipedia. The current title is vague and when looking it up in Google I only get a link to German Taurus leak and to news websites, not to this article. This sequence of words, or the word controversy, do not seem to be commonly used among English-language media outlets, so we can create here a descriptive title if it is deemed more appropriate. Super Ψ Dro 00:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Artms → ARTMS – Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
As well, under MOS:BIOEXCEPT and MOS:IDENTITY, living subjects of articles are entitled to exceptional stylization if groups clearly and consistently use an exceptional style, and an overwhelming majority of sources use the same exceptional style. When read in the context of WP:BLP, Wikipedia is probably necessarily compelled to use the exceptional style in such situations. A Google News search [42] does not yield any results which do not stylize the group as ARTMS. Included in the articles which populate in the search results for me are NME, allkpop, Billboard, Hindustan Times, Korea JoongAng Daily, ABS-CBN News, Pop Matters. Outside of Google News, sites like Sputnik Music which reviewed their debut album earlier this year all took care to stylize the group's name as ARTMS. The Korean language edition of Wikipedia titles the respective article as ARTMS, as does the Japanese language edition. While I invite editors to debate the reliability of these sources or discuss points of difference in policy (so as to set a robust precedent), I also invite them to find any reliable sources which do not use the exceptional stylization. Officially, their primary website could be argued as ambiguous since we only have the all caps logo to go off of, but their official fansite consistently stylizes the name of the group as ARTMS. Their social media is consistent with the ARTMS stylization on Youtube, TikTok, Instagram, X, and their official Discord server. Marketplaces including Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Apple Music, and streaming services such as Spotify all observe the ARTMS stylization. The only exception I was successful in finding was Tidal, but it's not clear to me if this is because there is another musical act by the same name but opposite stylization (it doesn't appear to be WP:NOTABLE or in possible contention as the WP:PTOPIC in the future, but this could help disambiguate down the line). Wikipedia is not beholden to fans on SNS or fan wikis, but they can help give some indication of the WP:COMMONNAME; users on reddit and X appear to overwhelmingly observe the ARTMS stylization, as do users on any number of fan wikis I found; [43], [44], [45]. 122141510 (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Shabaab (Mozambique) → Islamic State – Mozambique Province – I see more results for “Islamic State – Mozambique Province” rather than “Ansar al Sunna/Al Shabaab”. ISIL propaganda also uses the name “Wilayat Muzambiq” (Mozambique Province) when referring to this group’s activities and operations. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- (Discuss) – All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment → All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment – These military equipment designators are often capped in official lists, but also often lowercase in sentences in both official and "independent" publications, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS we should default to lowercase, in titles and in article text (except Interceptor should be capped even mid-sentence, as that's the proper name of the armor system, not a descriptive term). I had moved them already, thinking they'd be uncontroversial in light of a bunch of previous military equipment designation RMs, but these were objected to and reverted, so let's discuss. Dicklyon (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rose Hanbury → Rose Cholmondeley, Marchioness of Cholmondeley – Per WP:NCBRITPEER. While tabloids call her by her maiden name, she is otherwise referred, both officially and in non-tabloid papers, as the Marchioness of Cholmondely or Lady Cholmondely and so on. For example, Diana is usually called Princess Di or Lady Di or Diana Spencer but her official title and the title of her article is Diana, Princess of Wales. The current Princess of Wales is commonly called Kate Middleton but her article is title in "Catherine, Princess of Wales". Same with Meghan Markle. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Yi (儀) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. Gonnym (talk) 19:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Yi (怡) → ?
- (Discuss) – Prince Rui (睿) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. Gonnym (talk) 19:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Rui (瑞) → ?
- (Discuss) – Lifetime (TV network) → Lifetime (TV channel) – This is a TV channel, not a TV network, despite its multiple international feeds; active or defunct! Intrisit (talk) 11:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Austro-Hungarian rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina → Austro-Hungarian Bosnia and Herzegovina – WP:CONSISTENT with Ottoman Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ottoman Bulgaria, and Ottoman Greece. Note that the first article cited was previously Ottoman rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the second article has Ottoman rule in Bulgaria as a redirect, and the third has Ottoman rule in Greece as a redirect. While the empire in question differs, the situation and context is fairly similar, so readers could expect a similar titling style for this article as with the others I've mentioned. 122141510 (talk) 04:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Whatu Ora → Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora – Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME Lluq (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – London Olympics → London hosting the Olympic games – Schwed66 did the same move with Paris Olympics. Titles need to be consistent when appropriate. Georgia guy (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eights Week → Summer Eights – While referred to as Eights Week in the past, the event is far more commonly known as Summer Eights today. All University, College, and town publication, including all material from the actual organisers refers to the event as 'Summer Eights', not 'Eights Week'. Additionally, as referred to by the last move request back in 2016, there are far more common results for Summer Eights than Eights Week in search engines. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically. OxfordRowing (talk) 20:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 15:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transgender hormone therapy → Hormone replacement therapy (transgender) – It has become clear that the current article at Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal application does not qualify as a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after reviewing of page navigation flows for Hormone replacement therapy, Hormone therapy and Transgender hormone therapy. An outsizedly large amount of traffic that currently navigates straight from Hormone replacement therapy to Transgender hormone therapy, since HRT is also referred to for it (as outlined in the lead of the article), or to the current disambiguating article Hormone therapy, which combined account for 30% of the navigation from the current HRT article. So I propose that Hormone replacement therapy doesn't have a clear primary topic and as such we should rename the two articles to both use "Hormone replacement therapy" (or HRT in short) as their WP:COMMONNAME with the specific application in parenthesis. And then turn the current "Hormone replacement therapy" into a simple disambiguation page, or redirect it to Hormone therapy (which kind of already acts as a disambiguation page, as also shown from the traffic of the hat note). Raladic (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – WD 2359−434 → Gliese 915 – Simpler name inline with WP:STARNAMES, which priorizes Gliese designations for stars without proper names, Bayer, Flamsteed, HD or Variable designations. New title meets the naturalness criteria, follow the naming convetion and is consistent with other Gliese stars. 21 Andromedae (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jean Kelly (disambiguation) → Jean Kelly – The actress' stage name is not simply "Jean Kelly", but Jean Louisa Kelly per her website, IMDb, Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, Twitter, etc. No need for redirecting Jean Kelly to Jean Louisa Kelly when it can serve as the dab page base name. Anyone searching for her as "Jean Kelly" or for Jeanne Kelly, the early stage name of actress Jean Brooks, or even users who might mistype Gene Kelly as "Jean Kelly", will find all those links directly upon the proposed Jean Kelly dab page without having to go through Jean Louisa Kelly. Four years and eight months ago, above, there were four "support" votes and four "oppose", resulting in "no consensus". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Non è la RAI → Non è la Rai – see this discussion. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Records of the Grand Historian → Shiji – WP:COMMONNAME Folly Mox (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sacramento RT Light Rail → SacRT light rail – Similar format to VTA light rail. The article title is trying to use an abbreviated form of the Sacramento Regional Transit District's name, but it is a bit awkward, and "SacRT" seems to be the common abbreviation the agency refers to themselves as, as well as by everyday people, much in the same way "VTA" is the common abbreviation for the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority. Furthermore, like the VTA light rail system, it technically doesn't have its own unique branding, so the "light rail" part of the article name aren't proper nouns and thus don't need to be capitalized. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 11:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robbie Moore (MP) → Robbie Moore (politician) – This seems to be the standard disambiguator. GnocchiFan (talk) 12:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 14:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost (talk) 11:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ermou Street (Athens) → Ermou Street – Unnecessary disambiguation. Killuminator (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voluntary assisted dying in Western Australia → ? – This page is functionally a page about the specific law: Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019. The other pages in this area which are about specific laws, they are named after the specific law: *Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in the Northern Territory *Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2017 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in Victoria For the purposes of uniformity, this page should be renamed Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019 A history/background section is perfectly reasonable to have in a page about a specific law - that is the case for Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006, Aliens Deportation Act 1948, Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021. DotCoder (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Army Radio → Israeli Army Radio – to be more descriptive. Israeli Army Radio already redirect to Army Radio Astropulse (talk) 04:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blendo Games → Brendon Chung – I cannot find much evidence Blendo Games passes WP:NCORP. However, its sole developer Brendon Chung does appear to pass WP:NARTIST due to his game development efforts and recognition. He got a major profile in Kill Screen and an article focused on him in Vice magazine. I suggest the article be moved and modified somewhat to focus primarily on him. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [46], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Berar Sultanate → Berar sultanate – Capitalization is not necessary. When I search for "Berar Sultanate" on Google Books, I find 6 of the first 10 hits user lowercase sultanate. Per the criteria at MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS, we should not cap things that are not mostly capped in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 06:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultime grida dalla savana → Savage Man Savage Beast – Per WP:USEENGLISH in most foreign language film titles, with the exception of La dolce vita. 49.150.14.10 (talk) 00:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 06:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DNCE → Dnce – Artist name is not an initialism and should be at the lowercase title as per MOS:ALLCAPS. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 19:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture → Names for Jewish and Christian holy books – This is a worthwhile article, but IMHO its current title is misleading. I expected "Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture" to list the Jewish and Christian names for books of the Bible. Instead, it lists divisions within the Bible, and the more authoritative of the other Jewish types of holy books. I believe that in both religions "scripture" is only used for the Bible. "Sifrei Kodesh" is a wider category used in Judaism, literally meaning "holy books", although this does have a wider scope than the current content of the nominated article. – Fayenatic London 14:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saddle tramp → Saddle tramp (disambiguation) – Created main space page for Saddle tramp. Name previously redirected to Saddle tramp (disambiguation) page. The title Saddle tramp should direct to this page, not the disambiguation page. There is a header link at the top of this page. Maineartists (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹងទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RAI → Rai (Italian broadcasting company) – the common name is "Rai"; see the official site: https://www.rai.it/, the Treccani encyclopaedia: https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/rai-radiotelevisione-italiana/, and the it.wiki page: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Global War Party → Global war party – Per MOS:CAPS GnocchiFan (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trump raised-fist photographs → Donald Trump fist pump photographs – While his fist is raised in the images, he was actually carrying out a fist pump while being escorted off stage. Also "Trump raised fist" doesn't include the first name of the main subject of the photograph, and just doesn't sound right. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 05:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James House → James House (disambiguation) – The only other entities with the exact name "James House" are James House (Rogers, Arkansas) and James House (Pensacola, Florida), which both have less than one page view per day. The singer has over 25. Everything else on the dab page James House except for the singer's album is a partial title match with at least one word other than "James House" in the title. From this evidence, it's abundantly clear that the singer is by far the most common result for people looking for the exact name "James House", and should therefore be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:TSGN and SE Stations → Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[1] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.
References
- ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
- TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Possibly incomplete requests
[edit]- Talk:M40 gun motor carriage – M40 gun motor carriage is requested for move to M40_gun_motor_carriage, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Bengawan Solo – Bengawan Solo is requested for move to Bengawan Solo (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Koufax – Koufax is requested for move to Koufax (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Meath – Meath is requested for move to Meath (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?